Is my car garbage?

[SingleCamMan]

So I pretty much just got this free 240sx. It has some minor issues that are making me wonder if i should just sell it. The frame in the engine bay is slanted to the right, so much that the hood cant go all the way down without being on my headlight. When you shut the hood there is a major gap on the drivers side, and it overlaps on the passenger side. Im just wondering, how cheaply can this be fixed? Heres some pics to give you guys some visualization. If i posted this in the wrong part of the forums, I'm sorry.(new to zilvia)

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[Driven08]

Its garbage just give it to me.

Actually you can fix that all for under $100 if you look around the for sale section here. Maybe even less.

[ballinnmiami240sx]

try again....

[SingleCamMan]

What exactly do I purchase though? Not like I can buy a whole new front of the car. Its not the bumper thats bent, nor the hood.

[lazysk8er2]

its worth only as much as u wanna keep the car...people take rust buckets and throw 10k into them...u got a sweet free car...take advantage of it

[rowley65flip]

Free is free. It all looks shifted. any more pics from the sides?

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

make all of that bent stuff straight again. use a chain and a tree. then a BFG.


fin.

[SingleCamMan]

umm the only pics I have are the ones in that album, I dont know if it let you browse it or not.I really want to make this thing nice, but kinda hard when you work part time in highschool. Chain and tree huh? how does that work?

[HyperTek]

G style method, get some chain and a straight post and car in reverse to pull it some lol.

just take everything apart and figure out how to pull it around, pound it back.. You got the car free, so work with what you got.

[SingleCamMan]

Sounds like a cheap way out of this. If I do decide to sell it, whats the max i would get for it? like 500?

[ryguy]

500 would be pushing it. The junkyard would give you 100-200. That chassis looks disgusting. Do yourself a favor and start fresh, unless this is going to be a track car.

[NISMO_tuner]

If it's running and it's free then its not that bad.
But your gonna need to straighten that front.
Body parts on it is fine, the radiator support got pushed in and everything is outta line if your wondering why your hood is not closing.
Better off parting it out and starting with something cleaner.
How's the quarter panels, interior, and motor?

[ericcastro]

dont look bad at all.

get a hammer.
take the bumper off.
get a tape measure
take off the brackets that hold the headlights.
hammer that front around till its nice and straight and the same distance from the firewall, on both sides.
softly bang those brackets till they are the right shape.
put it back together.

hows it fit.
not perfect??
look at whats holding it up now??
pull it off, bang it straight.




or sell it to someone up here in LA as a $200 drift missile.

[soreballz]

Does it run well? If so, it looks to me like a great candidate for a drift missile. :naughtyd:

[DDDsquad_s13panda]

id buy this AS-IS for $500, depending on the DMV fees' and paperwork situation. other than that, id really pick this up. im thinking of tracking my coupe now but its going to be a long way and i have a silvia front on it and id slap it on here..

LMK =]

[drift freaq]

500 would be pushing it. The junkyard would give you 100-200. That chassis looks disgusting. Do yourself a favor and start fresh, unless this is going to be a track car.

dude that car is possibly fixable. Take the external bent body parts off take it a body shop and get the core support done for about $300-400. Then put straight body panels on it. which you can usually pick up cheap. The only thing is make sure they rack it to see if its straight. If its not straight you could have them straighten except it will cost more. The only thing that worries me in those pics is the left hand fender right by the front side of the strut tower. I am not sure if the fender is bent there or there is a kink in the inner fender well.


That chassis did not look that disgusting though , disgusting is rotted out metal like you guys see in the midwest.

Free is free take advantage of it. if its not straight part it out and make money.

Of course if you want to pratice drifting with it then pull it out ghetto stylie and just drive the shit out of it till it falls apart. its freaking free.

[andisan]

part it out, get some money for it add it up to the money you are hopefully saving for a car, come back with all your savings and go to the "cars for sale" forum and youll find a good clean stock 240sx saves you time and money that youll need to fix the one you got.

[artdrifter]

if it's gonna be a drift machine then freakin go to town on it.

[ryguy]

That chassis did not look that disgusting though , disgusting is rotted out metal like you guys see in the midwest.

I guess disgusting isnt the right word. Janky is better. Look at the top radiator support and the shock towers, isnt that whole chassis twisted?

[ericcastro]

Its an easy fix i think.

It looks like its mainly the passenger side.

I hit a telephone pole, (dont ask about my hypacritical lifestyle)

I had the front pretty fucked.
whole rad support was back 2 inches, drivers wheel pushed back 2 inches, hood fucked, etc.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/IMG_7489.jpg

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/IMG_7494.jpg

notice the support is fucked.
massage it out with a hammer and a 2x4. use the 2x4 piece on top to bang the support back down straight, put the end into the corner of the support thats bent in, and bang it back out.

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/IMG_7492.jpg

even my underside was fucked, but the frame was still good.
all the bends happened in those first couple inches of the frame.

its all good now.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s242/castro_castro/LA004356.jpg
all done with an offroad jack, 2x4, hammer and a couple used headlight brackets from a friend, as well as a new hood.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Whys the valve cover look like it isnt straight?!?! Like its bowing to the left...that just the angle?

[ixfxi]

Its an easy fix i think.

I hit a telephone pole, (dont ask about my hypacritical lifestyle)

I had the front pretty fucked.
whole rad support was back 2 inches, drivers wheel pushed back 2 inches, hood fucked, etc.
notice the support is fucked.
massage it out with a hammer and a 2x4. use the 2x4 piece on top to bang the support back down straight, put the end into the corner of the support thats bent in, and bang it back out.

even my underside was fucked, but the frame was still good.
all the bends happened in those first couple inches of the frame.

its all good now.
all done with an offroad jack, 2x4, hammer and a couple used headlight brackets from a friend, as well as a new hood.

damn dude, some of you guys are clueless. i cant believe you guys drive such buckets.


this thread is like the bizzaro world, no one seems to understand the concept: BODY SHOP - PROFESSIONAL REPAIR

fuckin patch fix city... some bubble gum, a few paperclips... shit is good as new son!

[ryguy]

damn dude, some of you guys are clueless. i cant believe you guys drive such buckets.
this thread is like the bizzaro world, no one seems to understand the concept: BODY SHOP - PROFESSIONAL REPAIR
fuckin patch fix city... some bubble gum, a few paperclips... shit is good as new son!

And spend more than the car is worth just to get it straight, not to mention new fenders and paint.

These are S13s ZIP TIES FOR LIFE BRO!

But I guess he did get it for free.

[jamg]

u like working on cars?

[clark]

lol someone said BFG

i think you meant BFH hahah

yeah brosef, you got a free car, start wahcking the crap out of it to make it straight. use it to learn so you can do it on another car if you have to.

bend it back, and then reinforce it because the metal will be fatigued.

[s13skank]

It was free so there was bound to be something wrong with it, all you need is time, money and some elbow grease and i think you can do it

[hOngsterr]

part it out lol.
im sure ppl would love some parts off it,

[drift freaq]

And spend more than the car is worth just to get it straight, not to mention new fenders and paint.

These are S13s ZIP TIES FOR LIFE BRO!

But I guess he did get it for free.

Ah that depends. You do the right things the cars can still retain a decent value.

Its attitudes like yours that has destroyed the 240 world. You instill the idea that the cars are worthless disposable pieces of shit. Hence kids buying them trashing them and wrecking them.

Driving away real enthusiasts, because they are disgusted by the bad attitude you and others evoke. Result? Making it look like its strictly a high school kids car, because of it.

In others your attitude and people that espouse it, sucks balls and is responsible for the demise of our cars. Hope you're happy, you have helped destroy a once great community.

[ixfxi]

pretty extreme dave.............................



but, in a way you're correct.


You got a car, its a bit of a mess. Not everything thats handed to you is shiny and new, but it doesnt mean its garbage. It takes a professional to look at it and see whether or not it has any worth. Worth can be a matter of parting it out, worth can also mean taking it to a reputable body shop and having it professionally repaired. It all depends.


The advise I see from people on the forum is the kick in the nuts, because rather than doing real repairs people suggest patch-fixes. You do one patch fix, followed by another patch fix, then you've got a car thats held together with patch fixes. Its literally a rolling heap of garbage.

Start by having the car examined by a pro, not by a bunch of teenage pimple faced nerds who live at home with their parents getting their cars modded by the mommy fund.

ps: and get a job. :-)

[ericcastro]

damn dude, some of you guys are clueless. i cant believe you guys drive such buckets.


this thread is like the bizzaro world, no one seems to understand the concept: BODY SHOP - PROFESSIONAL REPAIR

fuckin patch fix city... some bubble gum, a few paperclips... shit is good as new son!

Ah that depends. You do the right things the cars can still retain a decent value.

Its attitudes like yours that has destroyed the 240 world. You instill the idea that the cars are worthless disposable pieces of shit. Hence kids buying them trashing them and wrecking them.

Driving away real enthusiasts, because they are disgusted by the bad attitude you and others evoke. Result? Making it look like its strictly a high school kids car, because of it.

In others your attitude and people that espouse it, sucks balls and is responsible for the demise of our cars. Hope you're happy, you have helped destroy a once great community.

i gotta disagree with both of ya.

What you 2 are doing with your cars is completely different then what I am doing with my car and what others that are drifting are doing.

If you wanna build a beautiful car/dd/track.scca car, then cool. kid should just buy a 240 that hasn't been wrecked.

But if your like me, and alot of guys on here, then you just need to keep it on the track and handling properly. zipties, metal tapping screws, hammers, electric tape.
i am trying to scrape the wall everytime i am at the track and trying to nudge the car in front of me everytime I run tandem.

See the difference.
cars like mine and S13teddy, who are just using these cars as vehicles for motorsports, compared to cars like mehsilvia and norms who are keeping there cars clean for daily use and track.


And dont give me any enthusiest bullshit! I was engine swapping L series engines into one of the many 510's i owned before most members here even drove. Shit, I am one of the members on here that had a 240 first. (1996).

(course, norm has us beat with buying his new off the lot, fucker, lol.)



So dont judge why different people are here. Just state, "If you want a clean car that will be show quality do this.............", " and if you want to just get it together and drive it quikly and the cheapest, do this..........."

[ryguy]

Its attitudes like yours that has destroyed the 240 world. You instill the idea that the cars are worthless disposable pieces of shit. Hence kids buying them trashing them and wrecking them.

Driving away real enthusiasts, because they are disgusted by the bad attitude you and others evoke. Result? Making it look like its strictly a high school kids car, because of it.

In others your attitude and people that espouse it, sucks balls and is responsible for the demise of our cars. Hope you're happy, you have helped destroy a once great community.

I take pride in my car and searched for a long time and bought one that was well taken car of, and I buy quality parts for it. I don't buy cars that require more work than they're worth. I'm also a realist, that car is probably never going to look perfect again without lots of money. Did you not read where I said to junk the car and start fresh, bypassing the need for the BFH? If a person is a true enthusiast then nothing I say about a 240 should change their thoughts on the car. I just know from personal experience that, at least for the average everyday Joe, its a hundred times better to start off with a clean chassis than a mangled wreck of a car. I made that mistake once and I will never make that mistake again.

By the way, you can't possibly think that my attitude has anything to do with how a kid treats his $1000 beater 240. I'm sure that if 350zs were available for 3k the situation would be identical to the situation you find the 240 scene to be in right now. My attitude comes from the way things are, not the other way around.

[ericcastro]

Start by having the car examined by a pro, not by a bunch of teenage pimple faced nerds who live at home with their parents getting their cars modded by the mommy fund.


Far from it.
Im 32, been running/staffing drift events for over 2 years.
Done several qualifyers, contest, etc.

just saying more of your assumptions are wrong about the people on here.
Im far from what your saying above.

BTW, you must have seen my car in its many stages back in burbank?, lol
I also got 15 different tickets for mostly bs there.
hate that place.

[DALAZ_68]

What exactly do I purchase though? Not like I can buy a whole new front of the car.


uhh...yeah...u can...it wouldnt be the first time someone would pull it off either...u just gotta do it right and take time on it...:coold:

[SingleCamMan]

Well this isnt going to be a strictly track car. I have to find a way to make this thing my dd. Engine is strong and runs great. Got it in Las Vegas then drove it out here to sd with no problems. Sounds like I will just use a chain,tree,2x4,hammer, and a shitload of elbow grease. I look forward to my project as a learning experience. On the other side, I wouldnt mind starting off with a clean 240.

[Bubbles]

Why not just drive this, do what you can with as little money as possible, and save up to buy a clean car that you want.


Holy shit it makes sense.

[ixfxi]

Far from it.
Im 32, been running/staffing drift events for over 2 years.
Done several qualifyers, contest, etc.

just saying more of your assumptions are wrong about the people on here.
Im far from what your saying above.

BTW, you must have seen my car in its many stages back in burbank?, lol
I also got 15 different tickets for mostly bs there.
hate that place.

you make a fair point in that each car has its purpose, but you're speaking as someone who competitively tracks the car. kid is 18, he just wants a nice car.

too many douchebags are all talking about track this track that, like they actually compete with their cars and they dont do shit with it.. just sits in their driveway and is barely acceptable as a street car.

picture it like this, you're 32 and you say you've gotten a bunch of tickets with your car.. no shit, cops dont hand out tickets for nothing. cops typically target douchebags with poorly modified machines that are a nuisance. how do i know? because one, i've had my share of stupidities.. and two, my friend is a cop.. he always tells me stories of dumb fuckers on the street with their bashed up zip-tied cars.

btw, i moved to burbank only 2-3 years ago.. prior to that i lived in LA/melrose area.

[BustedS13]

damn dude, some of you guys are clueless. i cant believe you guys drive such buckets.


this thread is like the bizzaro world, no one seems to understand the concept: BODY SHOP - PROFESSIONAL REPAIR

fuckin patch fix city... some bubble gum, a few paperclips... shit is good as new son!

maybe not professional repair. it's more economical to replace these cars. but yes, it's amazing what shitpiles the majority of 240 owners drive.

and based on that.... OP, beat on it until it looks almost right with the hood closed, then sell it for blue book, because people are that hungry for s13's (and also clueless).