View Full Version : Removal of Ka is a biatch.
FastBack 240
03-25-2003, 12:30 PM
I spent like 5 hours trying to remove my Ka yesterday. I am at the point where the trans needs to fall. How can I romove the connecters under the trans? There is like 4 connectors that need to be romoved and two of them were easy to get off but the other two are a bitch. Any one else romove a KA properly without cutting and what was your experience?
Foxcolt
03-25-2003, 12:33 PM
eh? just take the driveshaft out undo the tranny mount (four bolts) and the tranny drops. Then assuming you disconected/unbolted everything you need to in the engine bay you should be able to yank out the motor and tranny at the same time.
PS. don't forget to take out the shifter although you can take the tranny/motor off with it still on.
FastBack 240
03-25-2003, 12:40 PM
Yea.... I have the car on ramps so the drive shaft is gonna be a bitch because I cant lift the rear end off the ground because the car will roll off and kill me so i will have to find a way. Another thing is that the O2 sensor was completly shot. It was shatterd at the tip. What do you think caused this?
mrmephistopheles
03-25-2003, 01:19 PM
:rolleyes:
Try lifting your car onto jackstands, so that you may access the entire undercarraige. Also, you should've removed your driveshaft before you even thought about lifting your motor/tranny out. Good luck.
Removing any motor is not too difficult, as long as you take your time and you're thorough.
-Kevin
FastBack 240
03-25-2003, 01:35 PM
Yea I still have all the bolts on the tranny and all the mounts in tact so what im going to do is jack up one side of the rear and rotate the drive shaft so i can access all of the bolts. Also, I need to know if there is a special spot to take the fuel lines off so i dont need to drain the whole gas tank. Does anyone know how to take the shifter out? I have a maual and i remoeved the boot and plate so i can see through but need to know where to go from there. Also I labeled everything so the new wouldnt be so difficult to instal.
tchenku
03-25-2003, 02:38 PM
my friend and i are in the *long* process of puttin an sr20det into his coupe..
taking the ka out was LOADS easier than getting the sr20det to get on the ka engine mounts :mad: eventually him and his dad got it done with lots of crowbars somehow. except in the process, they neglected to bolt the driveshaft up to the sr20 transmission :p
fun for them
Jim96SC2
03-25-2003, 04:55 PM
I just did mine sunday. No problems here. just don't **** up the dust collar and swap it from theKA tranny to the SR before you put it in.
FRpilot
03-26-2003, 01:25 AM
today.. i tried to unbolt the motor mounts from under the front subframe.. there are two 14mm bolts on each side but they are like glued on or something.. maybe they're welded on.. i dont know.. but i tried for at least 2 hrs trying to unbolt those two bolts with everything i had which included..
*3/8'' impact hammer w/ 14mm deep socket (6 pt) and regular socket and extension
*14mm open ended wrench with a pipe
*3/8'' socket wrench w/ extentions and 14mm deep socket (6 pt)and regular socket
*lots of WD40
and nothing worked! all it did was wear down the sides so my only option was to use the open ended wrench. sockets just seem to slip and wear down the edges of the nut.
i eventually gave up for the day and felt like i had to do something to actually feel lik i made progress on my car so i unbolted the motor mounts from the top. it should come off when i pull the engine but then i'll have two motor mounts stuck to my subframe. i hope i can get those off w/o cutting.. and i haven't even worked on removing the tranny bolts and driveshaft yet.. those are goin to be a bitch to i can tell. anyone have other suggestions on how to unbolt those two motor mount nuts?
MasterOFDrift
03-26-2003, 02:05 AM
removing the drive shaft and the tranny is very easy. Just a few bolts. Not sure why your engine mount bolts aren't coming off try some lubricant or something WD40 perhaps. : P
TheTicTac
03-26-2003, 03:33 AM
Trancerboi you should partialy remove the bolt and nut that is holding the lower control arm to the subframe. I used a 18 inch long breaker bar and lots of PB blaster and they came off with ease.
turbo240sx
03-26-2003, 08:11 AM
hey fast back240"
ive swaped out plenty of ka's. and i couldnt get the car up high enough either to pull motor and trany at the same time.
the pain in the ass as it is i seperated the motor from the trans and it was the only way for my situation. good luck, any questions feel free to pm me.
Foxcolt
03-26-2003, 08:24 AM
Originally posted by turbo240sx
hey fast back240"
ive swaped out plenty of ka's. and i couldnt get the car up high enough either to pull motor and trany at the same time.
the pain in the ass as it is i seperated the motor from the trans and it was the only way for my situation. good luck, any questions feel free to pm me.
What are you talking about? I pulled my motor and tranny with my car sitting on the wheels? it's actually easier like that.
tRaNCeRBoi408: Unless your swapping your motor mounts you don't want to unbolt them from the bottom. Since you unbolted them from the top they'll stay on the subframe so you can bolt the SR (or whatever engine your putting in) on em.
FastBack 240: Take the fuel filter out and clamp both ends. Thats the easiest to do it as it's the closest to your fuel rail.
You can take the tranny and motor out with the shifter in. Or search 240sx.org for the pilot shortshifter install. It's got detailed instructions on how to take your shifter out.
Seems like you got yourself knee deep in a swap with out doing the proper research. If your having this much trouble taking out your KA it's only going to compound when you put your SR in.
If you want you can email me specific questions and I'll try and anwser them as soon as I can.
turbo240sx
03-26-2003, 12:40 PM
all one piece with the radiator in place and wheels on the ground not jacked up? i find that hard to believe but whatever you say.
Foxcolt
03-26-2003, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by turbo240sx
all one piece with the radiator in place and wheels on the ground not jacked up? i find that hard to believe but whatever you say.
Naw radiator was gone. I also did it on an s14. Probably had a little more clearence than you did.
radiator gone and shifter removed and 4 on the floor. piece of cake. now getting the motor mounts out... :p
Jim96SC2
03-26-2003, 07:55 PM
if bolts are stuck here's what you do..
Spray the bolts down with Liquid Wrench.
While that sets in go to Home Depot and get one of the hand propane torches.
Hold the torch to the bolt for about 2 mins then use your impact gun on it.
I had to do it for my motor mounts.
AceInHole
03-26-2003, 09:23 PM
use a breaker bar with a pipe extension if all else fails.... worked for the 27mm bolt on my Q45 calipers.
for my mounts i only needed the breaker bar with no extension.
240racer
03-26-2003, 09:25 PM
remove the fuel lines at the manifold near the filter.
I jack up the rear of the car when I am actually pulling the engine, this makes the angle that the engine has to make less compared to horizontal. I pulled it by myself last time, not too big of a deal
CoasTek240
03-26-2003, 09:42 PM
breaker bars rule!..to bad i Fack up so many things with them.. there really evil it not used right
FRpilot
04-01-2003, 04:16 PM
today i tried to get a step closer to removing my blown ka. i removed most of the harness and everything connected to the engine including vacuum lines except for 1 plug connected to a sensor on the a/c line.
anyways.. i got to work at unbolting the tranmision today too. i unbolted the tranny support bar but didn't know if the propeller shaft is bolted onto the tranny or just slides in to the tranny. will it disconnected from the tranny when i pull my motor out. i tried to unbolt some bolts on the propellar shaft but they wouldn't budge. i went to check my fsm and it said those bolts were holding onto rubber mounts and not to dissassemble. is that all i have to unbolt on the tranny to pull it out? just the tranny support bar?
mrmephistopheles
04-01-2003, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by tRaNCeRBoi408
anyways.. i got to work at unbolting the tranmision today too. i unbolted the tranny support bar but didn't know if the propeller shaft is bolted onto the tranny or just slides in to the tranny. will it disconnected from the tranny when i pull my motor out. i tried to unbolt some bolts on the propellar shaft but they wouldn't budge. i went to check my fsm and it said those bolts were holding onto rubber mounts and not to dissassemble. is that all i have to unbolt on the tranny to pull it out? just the tranny support bar?
You've got to unbolt it from the diff, of course, but other than the driveshaft crossmember, you just pull it straight out of the tranny.
Really easy.
-Kevin
FRpilot
04-20-2003, 11:46 PM
dang. im reviving this old thread after trying to search for answers but couldn't come up with much.. ok. im about to pull my engine out. i got all the tools and put together the engine hoist i bought from kragens yesterday night.. but where do i mount th chain? my fsm has the worst description on how to remove an engine. its like a short list. my dad said there should be a few bolt holes on the engine block where i can screw in a bolt with a washer and the chain to it but i cant seem to find it.. can i just wrap like 20 foot of chain around the whole block and hope it is secure enough to not drop on my foot or my engine bay and damage the frame? how much chain do i need to buy?
my initial plan is to buy 20 feet of chain to wrap around the block since i dont know where the hell those two bolt holes are.. i see aceinahole's pictures of him pulling the engine out but i can't tell for sure where he bolted the chains up. and he's pulling a ka24de and mines a ka24e. help!:confused:
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