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surge s14
04-17-2009, 01:01 PM
i bought some 5 lug parts form a SE s14 and iam installing my energy master set

that i want to use my question is what do i use and what not to use

heres a pic of what i bought
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u17/surges14/My%20S13/DSC00764.jpg

your input is much appreciated :bow:

palmdale_mob
04-17-2009, 01:04 PM
For the rear you will only need the hub and rotor

For the front you need hub, rotor, lca, and knuckle

5t341tH
04-17-2009, 01:06 PM
iirc, you can use the rears. u can only use the fronts by using the lca and all that. the rears you have to use n/a z32 hubs.

someone else can clarify the front part components

surge s14
04-17-2009, 01:25 PM
thanks guys

im having a real hard time geting the hubs off the s14 parts can someone let me in on the secret

DALAZ_68
04-17-2009, 01:31 PM
iirc, you can use the rears. u can only use the fronts by using the lca and all that. the rears you have to use n/a z32 hubs.

someone else can clarify the front part components

WHAT!? if ur sayin you cant use rear s14 hubs thats incorrect...u can...period...

thanks guys

im having a real hard time geting the hubs off the s14 parts can someone let me in on the secret

its called a hammer...remove the four bolts holding the hub to the shield and knuckle and give it some love taps and some PB blaster...

P.S. you only suppose to remove the rear hubs...the knuckle LCA and hubs on the front s14 parts bolt right in...

bullitt519
04-17-2009, 01:34 PM
pulley puller or hub puller will get them off if stuck

palmdale_mob
04-17-2009, 01:46 PM
Take off those 4 bolts on the back of the hub, and put in work on that axle

surge s14
04-17-2009, 01:46 PM
WHAT!? if ur sayin you cant use rear s14 hubs thats incorrect...u can...period...



its called a hammer...remove the four bolts holding the hub to the shield and knuckle and give it some love taps and some PB blaster...

P.S. you only suppose to remove the rear hubs...the knuckle LCA and hubs on the front s14 parts bolt right in...

i removed the big 30mm bolt
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u17/surges14/My%20S13/DSC00766.jpg

i thought the cv shaft would fall out but no luck here i want hammer bash it out :bash:. with the shaft in the way i cant get to the bolts behind the knuckles:bash::bash:
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u17/surges14/My%20S13/DSC00767.jpg

palmdale_mob
04-17-2009, 01:49 PM
Turn the shaft and there is little grooves that will line up so you can get to those bolts

DALAZ_68
04-17-2009, 01:53 PM
i removed the big 30mm bolt
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u17/surges14/My%20S13/DSC00766.jpg

i thought the cv shaft would fall out but no luck here i want hammer bash it out :bash:. with the shaft in the way i cant get to the bolts behind the knuckles:bash::bash:
http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u17/surges14/My%20S13/DSC00767.jpg


ill answer more when i get home, work doesnt let me see pics...till then :rofl:

Sileighty_85
04-17-2009, 01:59 PM
PB blaster
Let soak
put nut on till flush with top of axle shaft
Smack with mallet

It is possible to get to the bolts with the shaft still in
You just need to roatate the shaft until the the slotted section of that Lump?? lines up with the bolt

Ive done 5 lugs swaps while everthing is still on the car.

nrmskate
04-17-2009, 03:29 PM
Like the guy above said, there will be little grooves.

You'll see it and look at it, then finally figure it out and be like, "Wow, im a dumbass, shoulda noticed that"

surge s14
04-17-2009, 03:44 PM
yeah i got the bolts out i picked up some pb blaster and well still i cant get it off

iv been beating it with a hammer...lol

and it budged but not much :(

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u17/surges14/My%20S13/DSC00770.jpg

Sileighty_85
04-17-2009, 03:46 PM
Get a bigger hammer....hahaha

You need something with some umph
A ball peen wont cut it

WERDdabuilder
04-17-2009, 04:15 PM
get a block of wood. place it against the axle and hit that shit with the BFH.

palmdale_mob
04-17-2009, 04:32 PM
Are you stuck trying to hit out the axle?

If so I ended up with the same situation and ended up going to my friends shop and throwing the whole assembly in the press

Ir worst comes to worst thats what you might have to do, I bent my knuckle when I did it so just be careful

bullitt519
04-18-2009, 08:39 AM
pulley puller or hub puller will get your hub off without a f'ing hammer they are free to use at alot of autoparts stores



example:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/716/pullerjpg.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pullerjpg.jpg)

surge s14
04-18-2009, 12:17 PM
yeah i was fustrated i was taking a sludge hammer to the axle and holy crap moved maybe a 1/4in im going to try the hub puller today or on the weekend

i left it soaking with a full can of pb blaster over night

ill let you all know how it goes incase someone else runs into this problem.

surge s14
04-20-2009, 07:12 PM
i tryed the puller with nothing to show.

im going to send it out to a buddy with a press and see how that goes.

im just going to move on to the front...

now the knuckles for the front all i do is swap the s13 to the s14 assmbaly and bolt on right?

iRONDONkey
04-20-2009, 07:15 PM
quick question.

how big is the axle nut for the rear?

32mm? 34mm?

it's on my 89 240sx coupe, and i need to buy a socket for it, to take it out.

surge s14
04-20-2009, 07:16 PM
its a 36mm

lost240soul
04-20-2009, 07:23 PM
Front on S13 is 30mm, S14 is 32mm. Rear is 36mm on both cars.. i think some one correct me if im wrong..

whyrun?
04-20-2009, 07:27 PM
if you dont need the axles, just ut the nut back on the spline and whale on that fucker.

the hub was stuck in the upright when i did mine so i just took the 36mm socket, placed it on the back on the hub and hit it a few good times with a BFH. came undone in minutes

DCP94
04-20-2009, 08:10 PM
pulley puller or hub puller will get your hub off without a f'ing hammer they are free to use at alot of autoparts stores



example:

http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/716/pullerjpg.jpg (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pullerjpg.jpg)

when i did my 5 lug my 4 lug hub was stuck on pretty well...use the pulley puller like above its the easiest way and you can return it after you use it!! your best option imo

surge s14
04-21-2009, 12:43 AM
i used it and a impact gun it didn't come out

projectRDM
04-21-2009, 11:51 AM
if you dont need the axles, just ut the nut back on the spline and whale on that fucker.

the hub was stuck in the upright when i did mine so i just took the 36mm socket, placed it on the back on the hub and hit it a few good times with a BFH. came undone in minutes

Not a good suggestion. If you don't need the axle, why put the nut back on? If you hit it hard enough the nut will crown the axle's threads, making the nut impossible to get off.

I've only had one really stuck axle before, it was a set of R32 rear uprights, I put the uprights on top of a vice and used a sledgehammer. It still took maybe a dozen good hits. Using a hub puller isn't always optimal because you can pull the hub out of the bearing.

DALAZ_68
04-21-2009, 12:50 PM
Not a good suggestion. If you don't need the axle, why put the nut back on? If you hit it hard enough the nut will crown the axle's threads, making the nut impossible to get off.

I've only had one really stuck axle before, it was a set of R32 rear uprights, I put the uprights on top of a vice and used a sledgehammer. It still took maybe a dozen good hits. Using a hub puller isn't always optimal because you can pull the hub out of the bearing.

yup yup ....shits so messy when the hub pulls from the bearing...id say keep flooding it wiht some pb blasterfor one day and taking a piece of wood on top of the axle and start whaling at it...less chance of u screwing up on the axle smashing out ... another thing u can do is, get one of those autozone claws...the big ass one...cut out the dust shield, and anchor the claw arms to the knuckle...and start cranking on the bitch...hope that makes sense

DCP94
04-21-2009, 07:13 PM
lol so many ways to do this...i hope you gotten it off by now