Some opinion about these Motor mounts

[MrChow]

I currently have a pair of drift freaq motor mounts. I luv this mount. But something when wrong for some weird ass reason and I need to replace it.
Anyways here it is.

Yeah Yeah eBay link. But looks interesting.
eBay Motors: 89 - 98 240SX Urethane Engine Motor Mount ULTRA MOUNTS (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D1&item=330321364387&category=50454&viewitem=)

Anyone?? Opinions??

I'll lock/delete in a heartbeat if I get any flamers.

[punxva]

well i dont have any actual experience with them, but they look legit, they are a simple design not hard to actually mess up. i'd say go for it

[Propaganda]

for that price, make your own mounts

Either from solid Al or this..
Technical Articles: Make Your Own Motor Mounts - Here's How (http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=215490)

[drift freaq]

for that price, make your own mounts

Either from solid Al or this..
Technical Articles: Make Your Own Motor Mounts - Here's How (http://www.nicoclub.com/articles.php?id=215490)

Ah yeah and that guy on NICO is an idiot. You do not want a solid shaft going top to bottom. If you do that you basically turn the mount into a solid direct mount transferring all vibration and tension from your engine straight to the chassis. Now if you track it and don't care? Maybe, but it will put excess stress on your chassis and basically destroy drive ability of your car.

Those mounts on Nico are garbage.

The mounts on ebay look like they copied the mounts I was selling. It appears they built a interlock system into them because they were having problems with them coming apart.
Reason for this is it says right in their ad if the mount comes apart then they will give you your money back or exchange it.

Honestly this would scare me.

The mounts I was selling were actually lift tested picking up a pickup with a forklift with the mount holding the two items together.

Never ever had a problem with KA/SR mounts coming apart. In fact I can still get them made. Fact is I stopped selling them because everyone got cheap and did not want to pay for them. At $100 a set they were less than a lot of stuff on the market. though cheap asses like above just chose to try and roll their own junk because no one wants to spend good money on our cars anymore.

[MonkeyWrench]

Ah yeah and that guy on NICO is an idiot. You do not want a solid shaft going top to bottom. If you do that you basically turn the mount into a solid direct mount transferring all vibration and tension from your engine straight to the chassis. Now if you track it and don't care? Maybe, but it will put excess stress on your chassis and basically destroy drive ability of your car.

Interesting.

I've driven that car (on the street and on the track) and nothing you say is applicable.

"Excess stress on the chassis"? LOL - Dude, it's a 400-whp KA-T... Who gives a shit about "excess stress"?

The car idles smooth, and there's less vibration from the engine to chasis than in my S14 with the Nismo mounts.

Theoretical navel-gazing from people who don't BUILD cars is harmful to the community. Please know what you're talking about before posting your uninformed opinions.

[S14DB]

Interesting.

I've driven that car (on the street and on the track) and nothing you say is applicable.

"Excess stress on the chassis"? LOL - Dude, it's a 400-whp KA-T... Who gives a shit about "excess stress"?

The car idles smooth, and there's less vibration from the engine to chasis than in my S14 with the Nismo mounts.

Theoretical navel-gazing from people who don't BUILD cars is harmful to the community. Please know what you're talking about before posting your uninformed opinions.
Pot, Kettle, Black...


Those mounts only take care of Damping Compressive forces. Does nothing for Tension force. Sure it idles well on the jello. But when the engine experiences torsional forces that mount becomes solid, pulling on the bolt.

[zenki.life]

Interesting.

Theoretical navel-gazing from people who don't BUILD cars is harmful to the community. Please know what you're talking about before posting your uninformed opinions.


hmmmm. a whole 21 posts.

and deciding to call one of the most knowledgeable and (most importantly) nice person on here. i have seen how he helps some of the car noobs on here that perhaps should not even be helped. i was one. maybe still am. i'd ban you monkeywrench just on principle. ignorant fuck. however there are other sites that you can spread your nonsense in, but leave it out of this one

[wh0aitznic0]

Drift Freaq knows what he's talking about.

[drift freaq]

Interesting.

I've driven that car (on the street and on the track) and nothing you say is applicable.

"Excess stress on the chassis"? LOL - Dude, it's a 400-whp KA-T... Who gives a shit about "excess stress"?

The car idles smooth, and there's less vibration from the engine to chasis than in my S14 with the Nismo mounts.

Theoretical navel-gazing from people who don't BUILD cars is harmful to the community. Please know what you're talking about before posting your uninformed opinions.

Wow you assume a lot. Oh and if there was vibration from Nismo mounts in your S14 something was wrong. Nismo mounts tend to be vibration free.

Hmm navel gazing. Hmmm don't build cars? Wow. You know absolutely nothing about me.

Now, considering that I have built SR cars. I have helped build and owned RB cars. I have built 240Z's and Datsun 510's when your dumb ass was in diapers! I suggest you shut the fuck up.

I do know all about engine mounts. In fact I know more about engine mounts than most of the people on here.
Why? I used to sell my another manufacturers install kit for RB's and I use to sell my own engine mounts.

One thing I do, before just trying to market an aftermarket product, is research into the design and how to better it.
Running a bolt straight through a mount is just not the right way and it will transfer stress and vibration sooner or later.

[GSXRJJordan]

I think those ebay mounts are a good design, but you could make a set for a lot less than that... some grade 8/10 bolts, weld a small "C" piece of steel to connect them, throw a washer on the top and bottom, throw 'em in the bottom of a pringles can, and fill it up to the top washer with Delrin. The bolts are cheap, and Delrin's like $30. Same shit they've got, I'm guessing.

Dave's mounts are money. As stated, they take care of forces in both directions (pushing and pulling), and are not a solid mount - and that's not THAT much money for a set of mounts. I wish they had cheap Delrin tranny mounts though...

[xs240]

I've wondered... arent there ways to isolate vibrations but still make it more solid... i mean can it be that we just have only so many options nismo, cusco, etc... I run cuscos, its solid but man its anoying... great for racing though...

[DDDsquad_s13panda]

do the hockey pucks instead. i just finish putting mine on, and i put up a write up about it... over all , drives koo, but everything rattles at a steady idle, but the response action is a champ!!!!

[OBEEWON]

I'm running wood mounts.

[jspecusa]

we have tried many mounts over the years.
like all things in life, you get what you paid for, question is do you really need something that nice?
our favorite pick is kazama and cusco mounts, and we suggest running a engine torque damper.
cheers,

sam

[MotorMounts]

Ah yeah and that guy on NICO is an idiot. You do not want a solid shaft going top to bottom. If you do that you basically turn the mount into a solid direct mount transferring all vibration and tension from your engine straight to the chassis. Now if you track it and don't care? Maybe, but it will put excess stress on your chassis and basically destroy drive ability of your car.

Those mounts on Nico are garbage.

The mounts on ebay look like they copied the mounts I was selling. It appears they built a interlock system into them because they were having problems with them coming apart.
Reason for this is it says right in their ad if the mount comes apart then they will give you your money back or exchange it.

Honestly this would scare me.

The mounts I was selling were actually lift tested picking up a pickup with a forklift with the mount holding the two items together.

Never ever had a problem with KA/SR mounts coming apart. In fact I can still get them made. Fact is I stopped selling them because everyone got cheap and did not want to pay for them. At $100 a set they were less than a lot of stuff on the market. though cheap asses like above just chose to try and roll their own junk because no one wants to spend good money on our cars anymore.

How you doin' Expert,
For the sake of all who read your posts I hope your other 11,134 posts were not so lacking of factual information. The world does not need another self proclaimed expert preaching a bunch of "I think". You know absolutely ZERO about those mounts on eBay, Z-E-R-O, nothing about the urethane used, the steel frame internals, the testing done or if there was ever a problem before their current design. But you will be the first guy to jump up and scream "I think...........blah blah blah" to make yourself sound smart, when you really don't "know". If you don't know, that's fine, none of us know it all, but if you don't have the facts, stay in the back of the bus with your mouth shut and ears open. You might learn something for the next time someone wants to know what you "know" not what you "think".
One more thing, unless you were selling urethane mounts over three years ago, there is no way the mounts you "used" to sell could have influenced the Ultra Mounts in any way. And, there is a huge difference between "selling" and "building". If you build it right a third grader can sell it.

How was that for a first post, Boo........Yaa

[DALAZ_68]

theres a reason why a company like NISSAN designed the mounts the way they did instead of just running down a threaded rod thru a jello mold...

MotoMounts - glad to see Salem Oregon can still produce people that can spell a 2 syllable word... a cookie is in the mail

[drift freaq]

How you doin' Expert,
For the sake of all who read your posts I hope your other 11,134 posts were not so lacking of factual information. The world does not need another self proclaimed expert preaching a bunch of "I think". You know absolutely ZERO about those mounts on eBay, Z-E-R-O, nothing about the urethane used, the steel frame internals, the testing done or if there was ever a problem before their current design. But you will be the first guy to jump up and scream "I think...........blah blah blah" to make yourself sound smart, when you really don't "know". If you don't know, that's fine, none of us know it all, but if you don't have the facts, stay in the back of the bus with your mouth shut and ears open. You might learn something for the next time someone wants to know what you "know" not what you "think".
One more thing, unless you were selling urethane mounts over three years ago, there is no way the mounts you "used" to sell could have influenced the Ultra Mounts in any way. And, there is a huge difference between "selling" and "building". If you build it right a third grader can sell it.

How was that for a first post, Boo........Yaa

LOL Wow typical noob you are.
Oh and yeah I was selling Urethane mounts over three years ago actually 4-5 years ago to be exact, in fact we were selling urethane mounts before most people were stateside.

If you really had done your research on me? You would have seen that. I think you're the one with your head firmly planted up your ass. I bet you are the one selling those mounts on ebay? Since your screen is motormounts.

It should be motormouth!

Oh and mister noob trying to school a long time member. I don't post without facts and you did not even quote me. You did not even paraphrase me. I never said I knew those mounts. I stated based on what they posted why it might not be a good idea.

You are just a little to quick on defensive, which usually means I struck a nerve and I am probably right. Just an observation based on your knee jerk reaction.

You already blew your defensive. give it up loser.

[DALAZ_68]

I bet you are the one selling those mounts on ebay? Since your screen is motormounts.

.


click the thread dave, see location of the seller on ebay, and see motormounts location... :rofl:

[Bigsyke]

JGS poly mounts, weve already gone over this in 100 threads.

Am I the only one who actually inspected the hockey puck style mount, and say the bolts going through them were cocked to the side?

Mabye everyone forgot that the nissan ka/sr mounts "bolts" were offset, and there is added stress on the contact surface.

Am I the only one who saw this after I put the mounts in?

JGS poly, 100x better than any solid mount, hardly ANY vibration.

[landins13]

yeah these are straight up soup can mounts with no ofset.

[jamg]

here's what you do.

get stock mounts, and get 3M WINDOW WELD.

then use the window weld and mold it like this, onto the mount.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/smogtech/DIYmounts/PICT1364copy.jpg

USE 3M window weld.

[OBEEWON]

fail ownage.

[jamg]

lol

those ebay mounts look legit, if they fail, send them back, they will refund your money, and give you a new set of mounts.

[DALAZ_68]

lol

those ebay mounts look legit, if they fail, send them back, they will refund your money, and give you a new set of mounts.


why would i want something back that already failed on me, to potentially fail on me...AGAIN...?

[clark]

wait, so what's wrong with the urethane/plastic solo cup/pringle can method?? that seems legit...

fuck it i'll just get wood like obeewan did.

[Dousan_PG]

i love the ghetto setups

its funny as shit
ive done it
and now that i actually spent money, i dont know why i did

oh here come the 'oh ive tried both'

bullshit.

spend some money, and its not even that much

if 200 bucks is out of your budget

fucking cars arent for you

and id trust dave shit over some henious ebay crap. dave is old. and he's old school. knows his shit.

[93nismo]

ebays good for things like intakes and exhaust. things that matter? ehh. get some real mounts. those look legit to some but i wouldent trust em. i have nismo mounts on mine and there great. spend the money on good shit instead of more on lots of bad shit. in the long run, itl be better. like he^ said, if 200 is too much u dont really belong here

[HYPNOTIK]

I currently have a pair of drift freaq motor mounts. I luv this mount. But something when wrong for some weird ass reason and I need to replace it.
Anyways here it is.

Yeah Yeah eBay link. But looks interesting.
eBay Motors: 89 - 98 240SX Urethane Engine Motor Mount ULTRA MOUNTS (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26its%3DI%26otn%3D1&item=330321364387&category=50454&viewitem=)

Anyone?? Opinions??

I'll lock/delete in a heartbeat if I get any flamers.

I just bought these mounts, they are AWESOME. They fall right in between Nismo mounts and solid. I HIGHLY recommend them. Excellent build quality too.

[FaLKoN240]

here's what you do.

get stock mounts, and get 3M WINDOW WELD.

then use the window weld and mold it like this, onto the mount.

USE 3M window weld.

Hell yeah, I did that, LOL. I wouldn't do it again though.

[ixfxi]

i love the ghetto setups

its funny as shit
ive done it
and now that i actually spent money, i dont know why i did

oh here come the 'oh ive tried both'

bullshit.

spend some money, and its not even that much

if 200 bucks is out of your budget

fucking cars arent for you

and id trust dave shit over some henious ebay crap. dave is old. and he's old school. knows his shit.

fuckin dousan.......... everytime aron opens his mouth he says fuckin truth, i love it.


anyway, i dont know much about the ebay mounts but i really dont see much value in them. for most people nismo mounts are all you need. if you want something more aggressive, just fill the factory mounts with urethane - i did and i really, Really... REALLY like how it feels.


As for the ebay mounts, here is my favorite part of their ad:

"We label every mount with our name and phone number so if you ever need it , it will be easy to find."


Wow, thats very convenient. If only HKS, Apex, and Greddy did that. I'de love having their phone number on each and every part.

CLASSY.

[C. Senor]

umm...didn't dave say he could still get them? why don't you ask if he can and how much? if you had them and love them, why not stick with them? just wondering.

dave's mounts are pretty fucking good though. i like them. they give the bottom of the motor yellow bling. lol.

[ixfxi]

dave's mounts are pretty fucking good though. i like them. they give the bottom of the motor yellow bling. lol.

do they have dave's cell phone number and/or email address on them?

if no, im not interested. :-)

[jamg]

link to dave's motor mounts? is he still making and selling them?

[GSXRJJordan]

He co-developed them with Syko. I don't know if you can still get Syko mounts, but I believe Dave still has connections with them and can sell them.

[ayuaddict]

i got some solid ones from touge factory (Peak Performance Mounts - tougefactory - exciting car parts maker (http://shop.tougefactory.com/peak_performance/peak_performance_mounts/sr20det_engine_mounts/i-231311.aspx)),
pretty dope. made my weak ass ka feel faster lol.

[MotorMounts]

LOL Wow typical noob you are.
Oh and yeah I was selling Urethane mounts over three years ago actually 4-5 years ago to be exact, in fact we were selling urethane mounts before most people were stateside.

If you really had done your research on me? You would have seen that. I think you're the one with your head firmly planted up your ass. I bet you are the one selling those mounts on ebay? Since your screen is motormounts.

It should be motormouth!

Oh and mister noob trying to school a long time member. I don't post without facts and you did not even quote me. You did not even paraphrase me. I never said I knew those mounts. I stated based on what they posted why it might not be a good idea.

You are just a little to quick on defensive, which usually means I struck a nerve and I am probably right. Just an observation based on your knee jerk reaction.

You already blew your defensive. give it up loser.

drift freaq,
You were and are correct on the "struck a nerve". I over reacted and took personally what I felt was a dis on my product that I've worked hard on, sold hundreds of sets of and gone beyond the call of duty to make sure the customer gets his mounts fast. All of this with not one failure of a mount. Still, with hundreds of sets out there with no failures, I still get the soup can, Pringle chips tube, or Jello mold stuff. I have re-written that eBay listing 10 times over the years trying to figure what makes people tick and try to instill confidence that the mounts will not break. No matter what I write, someone finds a way to slam the mounts and twist what I say into "They Suck". There is not one person out there that has had a "first hand" bad experience with our mounts. It's like those old Frankenstein movies, all the villagers want to kill Frankenstein and burn the castle, Frankenstein didn't do anything wrong, so what's up. The mounts are designed to take both compression and tension loads into account, there is no metal to metal contact inside the mount, I use the best materials I can get, and for some reason, people that have never tried them, spread the word that they SUCK. Maybe I should raise the price to the $200 mark like a couple of the other posters were saying was the going rate for a quality set of mounts.
Anyway, about my previous post.... MY BAD. I'll be going to the back of the bus now, to be with the other Noobs. Peace, MotorMouth

[S14DB]

Maybe I should raise the price to the $200 mark like a couple of the other posters were saying was the going rate for a quality set of mounts....and put rainbow sparkles in the urethane.

[GSXRJJordan]

when will the rainbow sparkle mounts be available? Can I pre-order now? I'll pay extra!

[ixfxi]

drift freaq,
You were and are correct on the "struck a nerve". I over reacted and took personally what I felt was a dis on my product that I've worked hard on, sold hundreds of sets of and gone beyond the call of duty to make sure the customer gets his mounts fast. All of this with not one failure of a mount. Still, with hundreds of sets out there with no failures, I still get the soup can, Pringle chips tube, or Jello mold stuff. I have re-written that eBay listing 10 times over the years trying to figure what makes people tick and try to instill confidence that the mounts will not break. No matter what I write, someone finds a way to slam the mounts and twist what I say into "They Suck". There is not one person out there that has had a "first hand" bad experience with our mounts. It's like those old Frankenstein movies, all the villagers want to kill Frankenstein and burn the castle, Frankenstein didn't do anything wrong, so what's up. The mounts are designed to take both compression and tension loads into account, there is no metal to metal contact inside the mount, I use the best materials I can get, and for some reason, people that have never tried them, spread the word that they SUCK. Maybe I should raise the price to the $200 mark like a couple of the other posters were saying was the going rate for a quality set of mounts.
Anyway, about my previous post.... MY BAD. I'll be going to the back of the bus now, to be with the other Noobs. Peace, MotorMouth

welcome to the club, its calling running a business and selling a product. in our industry, no one operates without getting slack. i sell top dollar shit and still people manage to complain.


do yourself a favor, dont listen to what people have to say. look at your bank account, it speaks for itself.

[jamg]

money is power brah. i love the feeling of being "wealthy"

but i'm going to try out the window weld motor mounts. lolz

[DreamN]

ayuaddict, just curious, how you liking those peak performance mounts? do you have the street or track setup?

[jamg]

I don't have them...

are you talking to me? lolz

[DreamN]

que? wha'chu talkin' bout meng?

[jamg]

nice ninja edit.

[DreamN]

http://www.buddy-icons.info/img/smile/1703.gif

[HYPNOTIK]

MotorMounts, I just bought a set of these from you. I believe I referred you to this site. If you make a decal I'll put it on my car, I think your mounts KICK ASS.

-Casey

[MotorMounts]

welcome to the club, its calling running a business and selling a product. in our industry, no one operates without getting slack. i sell top dollar shit and still people manage to complain.


do yourself a favor, dont listen to what people have to say. look at your bank account, it speaks for itself.
ixfxi, You speak wisdom, and must have an old soul. From now on, I will thicken my skin when I enter this place. I'm not used to this, I have never been one to "talk smack" and don't need it. It's clutter and white noise that covers up the truth. This is where I'm from: You be straight with me and I will be straight with you. If there is anyone around here that doesn't roll that way, please identify yourself before we do business. S14DB has it nailed, comments should be taken as opinions and not statements of fact. Thank You for your "Welcome to the club" It helped soothe the wound of yeserdays frustration. Be cool, Max
money is power brah. i love the feeling of being "wealthy"

but i'm going to try out the window weld motor mounts. lolz
Good for you man, nothing wrong with saving a buck. Sounds like it has worked for others it may work for you, what do you have to loose? Best of luck, for real. Max
MotorMounts, I just bought a set of these from you. I believe I referred you to this site. If you make a decal I'll put it on my car, I think your mounts KICK ASS.

-Casey

Casey, How you doin'? It's good to hear from you. Yes, you did refer me to this site and the only reason I am here. So, once I become a supporting vendor of the site maybe admin should me giving you some kind of commish. Throw a dog a done. Speaking of bones.............Yesterday when the rocks were flyin' between me and drift freaq (not to mension Dalaz_68 throwing in his 2 cents, I understand though, he was defending a homie), you stood up, chimed in, and got my back. For that, I think you are "Front Row" and will not forget it. In fact, how's this for a bone........Check your PayPal account on Monday there might be some unexpected activity. It also sounds like ULTRA MOUNTS are not getting a fair shot around here. You've been here longer than I have, know your way around, know who the good guys are. How about you picking someone to receive a free set of motor mounts to demo and give a reveiw on. They get to keep the mounts. All I want is a fair, unbiased, run 'em as hard as they can review that will be posted publicly on the forum. No sugar coating, straight up hard truth is all I want. Are you down? As far as a decal goes, do we have any artists on this site? Lets put something together. I gotta roll, it's time to make the donuts. Peace To All, Max

[ixfxi]

Max, its a forum of (mostly) cheap bastards here. Everyone will complain about everything. You build something for $300, they'll say it should cost 200. You build it for 200, they say it should cost 100. You build it for 50, then obviously it must suck because its 50 bucks.

No one does R&D anymore, they just copy designs. All we business-savy folk can rely on is our bank accounts AND our customers to remind us whether or not our products are actually worth a damn. Since all of the car-communities out there dont know me personally, theres no reason for me to give a flying fuck about what most people think.

Every once and a blue moon I chime in to school people, but thats only when I am bored. I consider myself too busy to try to chime in and support my business, I have loyal customers that do that for me.

Last and most important, there are a lot of people in this world that still have that rare capability to think for themselves. I buy multiple products, inspect, compare, and do my own testing. Some people are just brand-huggers or thread followers and either follow the brand or follow what the masses on the forums do, neither are correct. And just because you make an engine mount and someone else makes an engine mount, doesnt mean that one is always superior to the other. There are plenty of people in the lighting business for example, some of which are actually pretty good competetors to me. Theres plenty of business to go around in this world, and plenty of asshole customers that I'de rather not deal with. As business men, we often have to remind ourselves that theres really no reason to want to be the #1 shop for selling any and everyone their product. If you're truly worth it (generally speaking, not direct to you), then people will support your business.

Case closed.

[ayuaddict]

ayuaddict, just curious, how you liking those peak performance mounts? do you have the street or track setup?

i loved them, (i dont have the car any more). they felt really solid.

there was a lot of vibration though, which was fine with me, some people may become annoyed by it.

and it was for a street car.

[drift freaq]

drift freaq,
You were and are correct on the "struck a nerve". I over reacted and took personally what I felt was a dis on my product that I've worked hard on, sold hundreds of sets of and gone beyond the call of duty to make sure the customer gets his mounts fast. All of this with not one failure of a mount. Still, with hundreds of sets out there with no failures, I still get the soup can, Pringle chips tube, or Jello mold stuff. I have re-written that eBay listing 10 times over the years trying to figure what makes people tick and try to instill confidence that the mounts will not break. No matter what I write, someone finds a way to slam the mounts and twist what I say into "They Suck". There is not one person out there that has had a "first hand" bad experience with our mounts. It's like those old Frankenstein movies, all the villagers want to kill Frankenstein and burn the castle, Frankenstein didn't do anything wrong, so what's up. The mounts are designed to take both compression and tension loads into account, there is no metal to metal contact inside the mount, I use the best materials I can get, and for some reason, people that have never tried them, spread the word that they SUCK. Maybe I should raise the price to the $200 mark like a couple of the other posters were saying was the going rate for a quality set of mounts.
Anyway, about my previous post.... MY BAD. I'll be going to the back of the bus now, to be with the other Noobs. Peace, MotorMouth

I am thoroughly impressed by this response. I completely understand the crap you are going through. Quite honestly we did sell quite a few of the mounts ourselves as well. We did run into the naysayers as well who said our mounts had a bolt through them or assumed they did.

We even had a guy post in our thread about how he was going to go buy studs and urethane tubes and make his own. It was fucking hilarious.

Now that you have stated what you have, about your mounts? I would no doubt say you probably have a quality mount there.

GSXRJordan is right, the mounts were developed when I was working with Syko.
Syko developed an even crazier mount for the RB kit. It is by far one of the best mounts I have ever seen on the market.
Syko pretty much abandoned the old yellow mount design in favor of his newer design.

Can't say that I blame him. His newer mount design was fucking bad ass. It is also not a cheap mount to make. Its also only for RB installs.

I can indeed still get the old the Yellow design for people.

Though honestly, I gave up much interest in marketing them. Why you may ask?
Well between when we originally marketed and the time when we stopped and I brought them back to market on My OWN(aka nothing to do with Syko), the market had changed. People were being cheap.

There were people selling garbage stud through the middle mounts on ebay for $50 and no one bothered to take the time to read and understand the differences. Results? Very slow sales. I dropped marketing them.


Oh and for the record I am not Syko, I worked with Syko and I do not anymore.

We went our separate ways a few years ago because we had different ideas and goals. He by far makes the best RB install kit on the market. His work is exceptional.

It is the inspiration from that, that has pushed me to do things righ

[DALAZ_68]

.Yesterday when the rocks were flyin' between me and drift freaq (not to mension Dalaz_68 throwing in his 2 cents, I understand though, he was defending a homie)

let it be known...he isnt a homie, i know him...pretty much it...i just found it hilarious he didnt see similarities in the locations lol :hahano:

[drift freaq]

let it be known...he isnt a homie, i know him...pretty much it...i just found it hilarious he didnt see similarities in the locations lol :hahano:

Thats because I did not check the locations Steve. LOL I merely commented based on how his ebay post and was drawing conclusions from it.

It did not come across clearly enough in my eyes(from the after thought perspective). When he went off because I touched a Nerve? All I did was respond.

Seriously, I paid no attention to the locations, though I did sense and feel by his reaction he was one in the same.

While it amuses you that I did not comment on it. Or catch it in your opinion, because I did not comment.
Its rather a trivial point, In the overall debate of the mounts and their quality.

I should add by his clearing it up. He proved he had a quality mount and that my previous conclusion was probably faulted.

I agree and based on his clearing it up? Its my bad for drawing the original conclusion I did about his mounts.

I think if he changes the wording to state what he wrote above, in his ads? It will be clear to any one of intelligence, that the man is building a quality engine mount.

I also once again commend him as well, for realizing he too had made conclusions about me and the mounts that I used to sell. Without enough knowledge of me.

In the end it comes out quite good.

[HYPNOTIK]

Casey, How you doin'? It's good to hear from you. Yes, you did refer me to this site and the only reason I am here. So, once I become a supporting vendor of the site maybe admin should me giving you some kind of commish. Throw a dog a done. Speaking of bones.............Yesterday when the rocks were flyin' between me and drift freaq (not to mension Dalaz_68 throwing in his 2 cents, I understand though, he was defending a homie), you stood up, chimed in, and got my back. For that, I think you are "Front Row" and will not forget it. In fact, how's this for a bone........Check your PayPal account on Monday there might be some unexpected activity. It also sounds like ULTRA MOUNTS are not getting a fair shot around here. You've been here longer than I have, know your way around, know who the good guys are. How about you picking someone to receive a free set of motor mounts to demo and give a reveiw on. They get to keep the mounts. All I want is a fair, unbiased, run 'em as hard as they can review that will be posted publicly on the forum. No sugar coating, straight up hard truth is all I want. Are you down? As far as a decal goes, do we have any artists on this site? Lets put something together. I gotta roll, it's time to make the donuts. Peace To All, Max


I'll do what I can to help you out Max. I know you sell a quality product. I'm sick of all the ricer fanboy nutswingers that assume something is garbage if it doesn't say Greddy or Nismo on it. 95% of the people on this forum don't even drive their car hard enough to break anything, they are too worried about wheel fitment and getting suspension to lower their car then they don't bother to get a proper alignment or good tires. Form must follow function or else you have a show car. I'll ask around and find out who would be willing to test out some mounts.

-Casey

[MotorMounts]

I'll do what I can to help you out Max. I know you sell a quality product. I'm sick of all the ricer fanboy nutswingers that assume something is garbage if it doesn't say Greddy or Nismo on it. 95% of the people on this forum don't even drive their car hard enough to break anything, they are too worried about wheel fitment and getting suspension to lower their car then they don't bother to get a proper alignment or good tires. Form must follow function or else you have a show car. I'll ask around and find out who would be willing to test out some mounts.

-Casey

Casey, Thanks for the support. Lets try to teach these nutswingers (that's a new word for me) to think for themselves, not just follow the heard like sheeple. On second thought, lets just start shooting 'em, maybe we can help the ones that are smart enough to run. That will cut our work to a minimum while maximizing the return. Good deal, find us suitable guinea pig. Hopefully sooner the better. Hey thanks again for standing up yesterday,that was something most people don't see enough of, check your PayPal account, Monday came early. I got to go, Max

[98koukile]

I'll run your mounts in auto-x and do a review after my next event. They may want you to be a vendor before that but you can check with any of the moderators

[Dousan_PG]

do your mounts allow the engine to sit lower comapred w/ nismo?

thanks

[HYPNOTIK]

do your mounts allow the engine to sit lower comapred w/ nismo?

thanks

Yes.

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[DALAZ_68]

do your mounts allow the engine to sit lower comapred w/ nismo?

thanks

Yes.

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if thats the case whats the height between the oil pan (stock and greddy) and the front sway bar...lower...higher? if lower...how mush lower?

if someoen is slammed ot the ground...im pretty sure it be an issue at teh track...




PS excuse the missspelling...im dunk :squintd:

[HYPNOTIK]

Here is mine. It looks lower in the pic because of the angle but my oil pan sits 0"~1/8" below the sway bar. My downpipe is gonna bang something along time before my oil pan, it's still higher than the cross member.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/SkylineGT_01/106_0125.jpg

[Jonnie Fraz]

There is some wisdom in this thread!
I get a lot of people giving me crap about Zilvia, but there are some very smart people on here.

I am going to check out these mounts...for sure I belive they deserve a a look.

[drift freaq]

The mounts I sold, also lowered the engine compared to the Nismo. Nismo mounts sit notoriously high.

[GSXRJJordan]

Here is mine. It looks lower in the pic because of the angle but my oil pan sits 0"~1/8" below the sway bar. My downpipe is gonna bang something along time before my oil pan, it's still higher than the cross member.

Positioning looks good.

The mounts I sold, also lowered the engine compared to the Nismo. Nismo mounts sit notoriously high.

Yeah, anything would lower the engine compared to Nismo lol.

[fliprayzin240sx]

But the thing with Nismo is that after a year or 2, fucker starts feeling like my old worn stockers. Thats why I tell folks, dont bother with Nismo mounts...

[DreamN]

MotorMounts, I'm actually in the market for new mounts and am considering Peak Performance as my next setup. I definitely would not mind running your mounts and give an unbiased review. I daily and track the car so I can easily review on both aspects of driving.

Plus, in the end, I can ship them back. I'm not in search of a freedbie, would just like a test sample.

[MrChow]

I just bought these mounts, they are AWESOME. They fall right in between Nismo mounts and solid. I HIGHLY recommend them. Excellent build quality too.

Uh... this thread got a lil hot.
In ended up with some nismo mounts

[GSXRJJordan]

Uh... this thread got a lil hot.
In ended up with some nismo mounts

Haha, that's like the worst option. Waste of $$$.

[MotorMounts]

MotorMounts, I'm actually in the market for new mounts and am considering Peak Performance as my next setup. I definitely would not mind running your mounts and give an unbiased review. I daily and track the car so I can easily review on both aspects of driving.

Plus, in the end, I can ship them back. I'm not in search of a freedbie, would just like a test sample.
DreamN, Thanks for wanting to give our mounts a shot. Unfortunately we already found someone to demo the mounts and report back to the forum. Right now all I can offer is if you buy a set of mounts, you can return them for a full refund (less freight) even if you like them. Never have had a set of urethanes come back, especially if the guy liked 'em. I don't know if this helps or not, you can always send ours back, then get the Peaks. Then you would definately be the guy to tell the group what the score is. Peace, Max

[DreamN]

^ That's a great option as well. I'll definitely keep that offer in mind. Thank you.

[FaLKoN240]

Haha, that's like the worst option. Waste of $$$.

My new Nismo mounts raised the oil pan above the swaybar...

I liked that :)

[S14DB]

My new Nismo mounts raised the oil pan above the swaybar...

I liked that :)

Me too. My old pan had enough dents in it. I was happy to raise my new one 0.5" above the crossmember.

[MrChow]

My friend had the Peak mounts. Those things were super sniff and it was the street one. It vibrated the whole car.

Haha, that's like the worst option. Waste of $$$.
Bleh. I got them for 80 bucks. No one else posted any comments fast enough for me to go get some other ones. Or else I would of gotten something else.

[DALAZ_68]

from what im gathering heres the gist...

if ur running nismo mounts with stock hood...0 issues
aftermarket hood (like say Dmax) + nismo mounts = no bueno
these ebay mounts + aftermarket hood =????

my question would also be, what about height, i mean from what i recall the stock mounts/nismo mounts, have different height per side...expecially the CA, which gives it the ganster lean i come to love, is that incorporated into these ebay mounts, or are they flat out one set height?

[Bigsyke]

http://jgsturbo.com/mms.jpg

Using high quality polyurethane and our custom billet brackets, we have designed our own heavy duty MMs. This design will not seperate like stock type mounts but will provide less vibration than solid designs and is designed with the the stock offset for just like stock fitment. Also more economical than other mounts on the market. Only one small modification is required, the engine to MM bracket hole must be drilled out to 7/16" (11mm). This is very easy and can be done without removing the brackets.Pics of mounts installed 1 (pardon the dirt) (http://jgsturbo.com/mm2.jpg)Pics of mounts installed 2 (pardon the dirt) (http://jgsturbo.com/mm3.jpg)Install ID diagram (http://jgsturbo.com/mmdia.jpg)TK218-S $119.99 USD a pair


So....Why are we contemplating mounts that dont involve an offset that nissan designed to effective hold the engine in place? Does anybody even understand why there is an offset on the mounting bolts? Why are we totally half assing things, I thought most of zilvia stereotype was about 240 owners cheaping out...however your spending an ammount of money already, only for them to end up in the trash bin because they arent the proper application.

[drift freaq]

http://jgsturbo.com/mms.jpg

Using high quality polyurethane and our custom billet brackets, we have designed our own heavy duty MMs. This design will not seperate like stock type mounts but will provide less vibration than solid designs and is designed with the the stock offset for just like stock fitment. Also more economical than other mounts on the market. Only one small modification is required, the engine to MM bracket hole must be drilled out to 7/16" (11mm). This is very easy and can be done without removing the brackets.Pics of mounts installed 1 (pardon the dirt) (http://jgsturbo.com/mm2.jpg)Pics of mounts installed 2 (pardon the dirt) (http://jgsturbo.com/mm3.jpg)Install ID diagram (http://jgsturbo.com/mmdia.jpg)TK218-S $119.99 USD a pair


So....Why are we contemplating mounts that dont involve an offset that nissan designed to effective hold the engine in place? Does anybody even understand why there is an offset on the mounting bolts? Why are we totally half assing things, I thought most of zilvia stereotype was about 240 owners cheaping out...however your spending an ammount of money already, only for them to end up in the trash bin because they arent the proper application.

In my opinion based on my observations Nissan designed their inline engine mounts offset because the engines do have a tendency to torque to one side. Therefore they put offset mounts in that lean the engine slightly to the opposite of its torque push. I could be wrong but this what I have observed and feel it to be a logical conclusion based on the observations of the actual torque of the engines and the fact that they indeed lean to the oposite side. Which most likely would be achieved between a combination of slightly different brackets on each side and offset mounts.

OH and Nissan is not the only Automotive company that does this BMW does it as well on their inline engine setups.

With that said indeed the mounts I sold were offset. Is it super critical? Well they design these things for passenger cars and some kind of longevity, as well as comfort i.e. less vibrations and whatnot.

We are basically putting or cars into a performance segment that usually throws comfort out the window in favor of better performance.

Given that, not having offset mounts is a world ending issue. You can run them and their will be no problems.

I see no problem with it at all.

Oh I should add, those mounts look very well designed and now that its been cleared up that they do not have a solid shaft or connected metal in them, they sound great.

[S14DB]

In my opinion based on my observations Nissan designed their inline engine mounts offset because the engines do have a tendency to torque to one side. Therefore they put offset mounts in that lean the engine slightly to the opposite of its torque push. I could be wrong but this what I have observed and feel it to be a logical conclusion based on the observations of the actual torque of the engines and the fact that they indeed lean to the oposite side. Which most likely would be achieved between a combination of slightly different brackets on each side and offset mounts.

OH and Nissan is not the only Automotive company that does this BMW does it as well on their inline engine setups.

With that said indeed the mounts I sold were offset. Is it super critical? Well they design these things for passenger cars and some kind of longevity, as well as comfort i.e. less vibrations and whatnot.

We are basically putting or cars into a performance segment that usually throws comfort out the window in favor of better performance.

Given that, not having offset mounts is a world ending issue. You can run them and their will be no problems.

I see no problem with it at all.

Oh I should add, those mounts look very well designed and now that its been cleared up that they do not have a solid shaft or connected metal in them, they sound great.
He is talking about the bolts being offset. Not the engine being TQ angled.

Nissan angles their motors mainly for oil drain back. BMW angles their motors to the right for packaging. The Chrysler Slant-6 was angled to the right for the same reason. To the right would make tq shock worse by your math.

Most engines can flip themselves over. TQ angling does little to counter act that load. It's mostly done for packaging and a little for oil draining.

[drift freaq]

He is talking about the bolts being offset. Not the engine being TQ angled.

Nissan angles their motors mainly for oil drain back. BMW angles their motors to the right for packaging. The Chrysler Slant-6 was angled to the right for the same reason. To the right would make tq shock worse by your math.

Most engines can flip themselves over. TQ angling does little to counter act that load. It's mostly done for packaging and a little for oil draining.

hmm interesting points S14DB never thought about it that way. I was talking about the reason for the bolts being offset though. Maybe I have drawn a wrong conclusion here.

[S14DB]

hmm interesting points S14DB never thought about it that way. I was talking about the reason for the bolts being offset though. Maybe I have drawn a wrong conclusion here.

If anything they move the engine to sit at an angle not inline with the chassis front to back. The stock drivers side the engine stud is behind the chassis stud and the passenger is in front of the chassis stud. Probably less than a degree but would create enough U joint rotation to be effective.

This is an old trick to remove drive line NHV. As things that are not inline can not develop sympathetic vibrations. Chrysler moves the engine 1.250 inches towards the passenger side. Ford and Chevy move the engine above or below the differential.

[drift freaq]

If anything they move the engine to sit at an angle not inline with the chassis front to back. The stock drivers side the engine stud is behind the chassis stud and the passenger is in front of the chassis stud. Probably less than a degree but would create enough U joint rotation to be effective.

This is an old trick to remove drive line NHV. As things that are not inline can not develop sympathetic vibrations. Chrysler moves the engine 1.250 inches towards the passenger side. Ford and Chevy move the engine above or below the differential.

This makes complete sense. S14DB I think you have nailed it.

[sr20boostn20]

im currently running avid solids on the motor and the tranny, they make the motor sit a little high. i ve been dealing with it alright,

I like soild mounts better than stock or nismo,

Its no fun if you cant feel the car,

[uriel]

so with those ultra mounts, what kind of vibration levels are we looking at? i tried to find something about it in this thread, but i had trouble seeing through the flames...

[HYPNOTIK]

Uriel, check out my car sometime. It vibrates but it's not annoying like the solid mounts.

[nissansrdub]

i bought some like that from a guy on nicoclub and when i tightened the bolts it pulled the stud out of the mount... i say a thumbs down for this type of mount

[MotorMounts]

i bought some like that from a guy on nicoclub and when i tightened the bolts it pulled the stud out of the mount... i say a thumbs down for this type of mount

This post is exactly why I've taken some time away from this forum. Ultra Mounts are being slammed by someone that had a bad experience with motor mounts that "they think" are the same as ours. Unless the bad mounts had an "Ultra Mounts" label on them they weren't ours. This is why we label our mounts, so you know what you have, not a "soup can" mount made by someone that has no idea what they are doing. Ya know, it's funny, if you go back a few pages in this thread, we even get slammed for labeling our mounts.

[clark]

This post is exactly why I've taken some time away from this forum. Ultra Mounts are being slammed by someone that had a bad experience with motor mounts that "they think" are the same as ours. Unless the bad mounts had an "Ultra Mounts" label on them they weren't ours. This is why we label our mounts, so you know what you have, not a "soup can" mount made by someone that has no idea what they are doing. Ya know, it's funny, if you go back a few pages in this thread, we even get slammed for labeling our mounts.

^^ hey i just picked up some of your mounts (ebay name clark_bar_2000), and holy hell how do you ship them so fast!!!! i've not installed them yet, but the these things are beefy. just feeling them in my hands i can feel the quality, and the studs that are in the mount are very high quality hardened steel from my observations.

I'm installing them hopefully this weekend.

If the quality of these mounts are at the same level of service and same speed as the shipping, I will be all grins during the test drive!

EDIT: oh yeah, the height of the ultra mounts is the SAME EXACT as my 16 year old stock mounts. 2.5 inches.

[MotorMounts]

^^ hey i just picked up some of your mounts (ebay name clark_bar_2000), and holy hell how do you ship them so fast!!!! i've not installed them yet, but the these things are beefy. just feeling them in my hands i can feel the quality, and the studs that are in the mount are very high quality hardened steel from my observations.

I'm installing them hopefully this weekend.

If the quality of these mounts are at the same level of service and same speed as the shipping, I will be all grins during the test drive!

EDIT: oh yeah, the height of the ultra mounts is the SAME EXACT as my 16 year old stock mounts. 2.5 inches.

Clark, I read your mind and shipped the mounts before you even bought them, they were half way there when you bought them. Seriously, when you buy something and it takes along time to get it, it is almost never the shipping company, it's the company that you bought it from taking their sweet ass time putting it in the mail. At UPS, FedEx, USPS, etc. the packages must go out as fast as they come in or they will pile up. They are in the shipping business, not the storage business. We do not "sit" on orders like most other companies. The order comes in, the order goes out.
You are correct, the mounts are beefy and the quality of the mount even surpasses the speed of our shipping. Please run the mounts as hard as you like and give a review here on the forum. I guarantee you will be all grins after the test drive and for a long time to come.
Just for every ones info, we just finished our first batch of billet aluminum solid trans mounts. They are $45, which includes freight.
Clark, thanks for taking the time to post, Max

[nissansrdub]

ok motormounts... how about you send out a couple samples to some zilvia members to test them out then take their feed backs... good idea!!! lol

[S14DB]

ok motormounts... how about you send out a couple samples to some zilvia members to test them out then take their feed backs... good idea!!! lol

Wow, you're a real cheap bastard. Did you even read the thread?


I still say rainbow sparkles.

[GSXRJJordan]

Wow, you're a real cheap bastard. Did you even read the thread?


I still say rainbow sparkles.

Agreed on both counts.

I actually primered/painted my poly-filled mounts, and hit them with a couple layers of rainbow sparkle lol.

[nothix]

Ordered the ultra mounts, lets see how they work...

[HYPNOTIK]

I've been running these mounts hard for almost 2 months now and I love them. I went to a track day today and have no complaints, throttle response is awesome.
http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn87/SkylineGT_01/DSC_0466-1.jpg

[fliprayzin240sx]

Max (Motormounts) sent me a set of Ultramounts and I managed to toss them into my car yesterday. I pulled out my older/beaten up URAS mounts and so far i like them. They're stiffer than my URAS mounts but again, keep in mind they are old (URAS ones: no clue how old but poly's not cracking or anything). These things are definitely stiffer. I noticed more rattles but its not stupidly loud. I say its up par if not slightly rattles more compared to brand new Cusco/Kazamas. Stiff but not stupid stiff like Hypnotik's solid CNC'd mounts that he was running a month ago. That shit was so stiff that he managed to rattle his windshield off the seals.

If you think NISMO mounts are too stiff...THESE MOUNTS ARE NOT FOR YOUR VAGINA!!!


For reference:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/P7020262.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/P7020262.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/P7020270.jpg


I decided to toss these in after i had to pull my top mount manifold due to cracking. Figured slapping these on and adding a flex pipe on my DP would help keep my manifold from stressing again.

These mounts are shorter than my URAS mounts with the metal plate on. I forgot to take a refence shot of these mounts next to a set of stock mounts I had in my storage, so I did the next best thing, used the URAS mounts as a reference to the stockers. Basically, Ultra mounts are shorter than URAS mounts and URAS mounts are still shorter than the stockers. These mounts should let your engine sit lower inside your engine bay.
Shot of URAS mount and Ultramounts:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/P7020273.jpg
URAS mount reference to Stockers:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/P7040278.jpg

By eye-balling it, these mounts are atleast 10mm shorter plus how ever much they'd compress after laying out the weight of the engine on it.

So far I only got 3 minor flaws about these mounts:
1) Studs are longer than I'd like them to be. I had to pop the engine mount brackets to get them on, even after raising the engine as much as I could (engine was pegged against the firewall and started raising the car). Would have made it easier to slip them on after getting the old mounts if the studs werent so long.
2) We have divots on S-chassis mounts that keeps the mounts from twisting around after getting mounted, these doesnt. I'm thinking they might eventually spin and loosen the nuts after a while. I say add a divot (Motormount) or just keep an eye out on your bolts and make sure the nuts doesnt loosen up.
3) Im slightly concerned about heat on the exhaust manifold side, I dont feel too comfortable with mounts like these being so close to one of the hottest thing in the engine bay (specially mine since im running a top mount manifold that likes to peg close to 900 degrees). Not sure how durable these poly would be...guess only time will tell.

Anyways, for the price that these cost, compared to whats out there in the market, these are pretty good deal. I'll keep updating this thread if something drastic happens ie: the mounts breaking or the studs ripping thru the mounts.

[MrChow]

^^
Interesting info. I'd like to hear what happens.

[jspecusa]

you can always use the stock heatsheild for the stock mount on the heated side.
I would only use solid mounts on track only cars, vibration to your body daily is not good for your health.

[HYPNOTIK]

^LOL^

I'll probly die pretty soon I guess.

[MotorMounts]

Max (Motormounts) sent me a set of Ultramounts and I managed to toss them into my car yesterday. I pulled out my older/beaten up URAS mounts and so far i like them. They're stiffer than my URAS mounts but again, keep in mind they are old (URAS ones: no clue how old but poly's not cracking or anything). These things are definitely stiffer. I noticed more rattles but its not stupidly loud. I say its up par if not slightly rattles more compared to brand new Cusco/Kazamas. Stiff but not stupid stiff like Hypnotik's solid CNC'd mounts that he was running a month ago. That shit was so stiff that he managed to rattle his windshield off the seals.

If you think NISMO mounts are too stiff...THESE MOUNTS ARE NOT FOR YOUR VAGINA!!!


For reference:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/P7020262.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/P7020262.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/P7020270.jpg


I decided to toss these in after i had to pull my top mount manifold due to cracking. Figured slapping these on and adding a flex pipe on my DP would help keep my manifold from stressing again.

These mounts are shorter than my URAS mounts with the metal plate on. I forgot to take a refence shot of these mounts next to a set of stock mounts I had in my storage, so I did the next best thing, used the URAS mounts as a reference to the stockers. Basically, Ultra mounts are shorter than URAS mounts and URAS mounts are still shorter than the stockers. These mounts should let your engine sit lower inside your engine bay.
Shot of URAS mount and Ultramounts:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/P7020273.jpg
URAS mount reference to Stockers:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g254/fliprayzin240sx/stuff/P7040278.jpg

By eye-balling it, these mounts are atleast 10mm shorter plus how ever much they'd compress after laying out the weight of the engine on it.

So far I only got 3 minor flaws about these mounts:
1) Studs are longer than I'd like them to be. I had to pop the engine mount brackets to get them on, even after raising the engine as much as I could (engine was pegged against the firewall and started raising the car). Would have made it easier to slip them on after getting the old mounts if the studs werent so long.
2) We have divots on S-chassis mounts that keeps the mounts from twisting around after getting mounted, these doesnt. I'm thinking they might eventually spin and loosen the nuts after a while. I say add a divot (Motormount) or just keep an eye out on your bolts and make sure the nuts doesnt loosen up.
3) Im slightly concerned about heat on the exhaust manifold side, I dont feel too comfortable with mounts like these being so close to one of the hottest thing in the engine bay (specially mine since im running a top mount manifold that likes to peg close to 900 degrees). Not sure how durable these poly would be...guess only time will tell.

Anyways, for the price that these cost, compared to whats out there in the market, these are pretty good deal. I'll keep updating this thread if something drastic happens ie: the mounts breaking or the studs ripping thru the mounts.

OK........The stud length is real easy to shorten, will 5mm shorter (on each end) do the trick? As far as the stiffness goes, what is everyones feeling on this, leave the mounts the way they are, stiffen them more or soften them up. Height?? We can make them taller, but then the install isn't as adjustable. If you install them as they are and your engine is sitting too low you can shim the engine up with a fender washer (or two) if we make the mount taller (closer to stock) and your engine is sitting too high, well then your just screwed because you can't shim the mount shorter. Now lets talk about 900 degrees. No urethane mount likes to be in that environment. If the URAS mount was able to tolerate it, the Ultra Mount should see no problems either. It would be interesting to use an infrared thermometer on the mount near the exhaust to find out what the actual temp of the mount is, not the manifold. We have never heard of a mount melting but the question comes up a lot and it would be nice to have a bullet proof answer. Now on to the lack of "pins", never had any complaints on that one either, as far as the nuts coming loose after tightening. There is no twisting force on the mounts, so there shouldn't be a problem of them coming loose.

Ray, Thank You for a very thorough reveiw. I was looking for unbiased and I think I got it. I hope all who read this, chime in with their opinion on the changes to the mounts that could be made.
Ray, keep the info coming, a long term reveiw is what we need.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Well Max, other than the studs thing, I think the stiffness is fine the way it is. Anything stiffer and it will probably turn alot of people off it. The height of it is fine, some of us prefer it a bit lower anyways. I should a take a pix of how low it is in reference to the crossmember and sway bars.

But yah the temp thing is getting to it. I checked it yesterday while I had the car on the lift and the poly is definitely not liking it. My recommendation is if you can add a small metal "heatshield" on one of the mounts, that should be more than enough to keep it from getting exposed too much. Figured something that you can slip on on the top stud. Right now, the poly is getting some bubble on it from the heat and literally cooking it. Again, ill try to pick pictures when I get sometime, hitting up the track this Saturday so Ill probably need to come up with something to wrap it up before then. Like Sam suggested, Ill probably try to re-use the stock mounts heat shield...

[gsxr141]

so, are these going to melt? i just got a set and i was going to install them tomorrow.

[drift freaq]

Well Max, other than the studs thing, I think the stiffness is fine the way it is. Anything stiffer and it will probably turn alot of people off it. The height of it is fine, some of us prefer it a bit lower anyways. I should a take a pix of how low it is in reference to the crossmember and sway bars.

But yah the temp thing is getting to it. I checked it yesterday while I had the car on the lift and the poly is definitely not liking it. My recommendation is if you can add a small metal "heatshield" on one of the mounts, that should be more than enough to keep it from getting exposed too much. Figured something that you can slip on on the top stud. Right now, the poly is getting some bubble on it from the heat and literally cooking it. Again, ill try to pick pictures when I get sometime, hitting up the track this Saturday so Ill probably need to come up with something to wrap it up before then. Like Sam suggested, Ill probably try to re-use the stock mounts heat shield...

Wow with that top shot of those mounts? I know see they are made exactly how mine are made. LOL The only difference our mount bolts are offset. Though I can tell the design of those mounts are pretty much the same. I would be interested in learning the durometer of the material.

Oh and like mine if your running a Turbo you do indeed need a heat shield or they will heat up and kinda squish. They will not fall apart but the heat will effect them. Other than that they look fine and look like very good mounts.

[fliprayzin240sx]

so, are these going to melt? i just got a set and i was going to install them tomorrow.

Re use the stock heatshield on the exhaust side and you should be good to go. Mine bubbled up cuz my external wastegate is literaly an inch away from it.

[gsxr141]

i should be ok then. i just have a 4-2-1 header for now. no turbo yet.:mad:

[gsxr141]

well i just got the mounts in. i had no fittment issues. i got them installed in less than an hour.
now for review.................. i thought my car vibrated before with the peak performance trans mount. now my rear view mirror shakes like a bitch. i'm not complaining though. if it makes the car work better, i'll deal with it. i will say this........my wife won't want to ride in it anymore. oh well, time for a cage and just 1 seat.lol

[red240]

Any updates on these?

[garagelu]

As far as the stiffness goes, what is everyones feeling on this, leave the mounts the way they are, stiffen them more or soften them up.

For stiffness, to one person it may be unbearable but to the next it may be just perfect. You can't please everyone so build a product that you think works the best.

[HYPNOTIK]

Still lovin them, no issues for me.

[HyperTek]

i threw solids in my 13 was great but the vibrations during standstill was the most noticible.
YouTube - S13 sr20 start up (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MyhzstV2GU)

[David B S12]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/111_0852.jpg
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k20/gamefreak291/111_0851.jpg
lol

3m window weld... no need to blow money

didnt even take the mounts off... just jacked the engine up with some wood/jack and went to town..

17 bux for a tube.. a tube can do like 4 mounts
part number 08609 at autozone... probally cheaper at other places but i work there.. and i didnt pay for it
cures like any poly.. like 24 hours. im letting mine sit for a few days since i have no need to drive it till summits next event saturday

reason why im doing this i had to bend my ka headers because they hit my steering colum, only at low idle while it shakes now so hopefully this will reduce that.. next is some cut washers to slide in to raise that side

[fliprayzin240sx]

No gripes from me for for Ultramounts...so far so good. Cracked my manifold again so Im getting that fixed, adding more bracing to it, adding a flex pipe into my dp and putting on my GT3582R turbo.