How many drifters take their cars off the road?

[The ROMAN]

Some nights I take my S13 out, if nothing else just to make sure it's running right, but with local events, even a fairly new local road course now, it seems like a waste of money to deal with keeping it on the street. Furthermore, although I've had no recent tickets, I once had 18 points on my license. As of right now it has come down to 9 (3 points off every year for 3 years), but that still means if I get a reckless or something similar, I could lose my license again, since it's an automatic penalty if you hit 12 points.

My insurance is due soon and dreaded inspection will follow a few months later, so I'm thinking of just taking my car off the road completely. My question is how many drifters with access to trailers actually keep their cars on the road? Is it a pain to get it back on the road at some point if you decide to re-register and insure it? I feel like I'd be better off making it a track-only car but I'd like to hear some opinions first.

[lflkajfj12123]

invest in a prepaid legal service or a good attorney and stop breaking traffic laws

preferably the latter first

you live in NEW JERSERY not California

drive it on the street

[The ROMAN]

invest in a prepaid legal service or a good attorney and stop breaking traffic laws

preferably the latter first

you live in NEW JERSERY not California

drive it on the street

I've been pretty good with the law in the last 5 years. I drove like a retard when I was 17-19 (26 now) and lost my license multiple times, which led to driving probation, which I couldn't get off until I stopped getting pulled over. It's been an expensive road out but my concern is more inspection and such than tickets as I don't really street drift or anything anymore.

[khilgers]

I drive my 240 on the street almost everyday in the summer. Clean record for 10 years and insanely cheap car insurance. Like the other dude said, keep a clean record and quit breaking traffic laws and you shibby fine. I don't really do any street drifting though. Occasionally, but not very often.

[!Zar!]

How does one person have EIGHTEEN points?

Don't they take your license away after like seven points?

[wgJoY]

street drift, nice.

[Monooxide]

Your points dont get removed when you come off of suspension...

If you were at 12 when it got taken away, you're at 12 when you start driving again.

[Jakob]

dude writing about that stuff on a forum isnt a good idea. drifting on the street isnt a good idea either. you are 26 you should be more responsible. hell im 20 and i realized that the regular streets are the wrong place for this. keep it to the track you have way more practice and you will have even more fun!

[cc4usmc]

^ You're dumb. He's not talking about drifting on the streets anymore. What it sounds like he wants to know about is registering the car non op then registering it again at a later time for use on the streets. If I had to guess, I'd say most people around here register their cars no op only because they're not legal to drive on the road, not because they've got a horrible driving record and don't want to pay $$ for it.

[The ROMAN]

dude writing about that stuff on a forum isnt a good idea. drifting on the street isnt a good idea either. you are 26 you should be more responsible. hell im 20 and i realized that the regular streets are the wrong place for this. keep it to the track you have way more practice and you will have even more fun!

Like I said, I don't dick around, haven't in years. Just want to know if the majority of dudes with built drift cars go through the trouble of keeping them on the street. Honestly I'm really leaning towards just taking the thing off the road.

[Teddy]

drifting on the street isnt a good idea either.

Give me a break. :duh:

[wangan_cruiser]

just dont do any reckless driving and restrain yourself doing other stuff on main roads and that should do it.

[The ROMAN]

non op

Yeah pretty much. I couldn't find anything on NJDMV about this, is it a California thing? Something to keep the car "in the system" so if I change my mind at some point I can just change the reg? It seems like I would have a hell of a time putting it back on the street if I choose to at some point in the future if I simply failed to re-reg and insure the car, as penalties for lack of registration increase over time.

[Erjay1]

I would write a letter so that they keep your wreckless ass off the road. It's idiots like you that give these cars and even the whole scene a bad rep and keep my insurance rates high. I bet you are or were once proud of your shitty ass driving record. Kill yourself.

[420sx]

on the street id rather drive something comfy and with ac.

when i get a truck i will probably keep it track only. want something fun on the street? get a bike.
i dont even enjoy driving my shit on the street because its too loud stiff, hot inside etc.


and ROMAN, i think everyone here missed the point of your post. why pay for reg and ins if its a track car only? saves money to go towards events and tires. trailers are not that expensive either.

[ZX88]

take a defensive driving course its 6 hrs long and knocks off 3 points i think you can you it ever year.

[cc4usmc]

i think everyone here missed the point of your post.

Almost everyone did.. shows the quality of new members...:ugh:

[Erjay1]

I got the point but still decided to bash on him for his driving record.

[cc4usmc]

I got the point but still decided to bash on him for his driving record.

Which was the result of his actions 7 years ago, back before the whole "scene" even blew up. And back when you were still going through puberty.

[Erjay1]

Dude isnt much older than me. See I had a speeding ticket back in the days and guess what? I learned my lesson. It's not about how long ago, it's the repetitiveness that I'm talking about. Don't some people learn their lesson?? It could have been 20 years ago for all I care, guess what? People like that contributed to our high insurance rates. I'm in the insurance industry and believe me every one of us with a clean driving record is having to pay a higher premium because of people like him. Not to mention the lives he put at risk. What if one day you or dear family member was driving down the road and here comes Mr. I Drift & Race So Im Cool and BAM, kills that innocent driver. Hey let's forget about it because it happened 7 years ago before I went through puberty.

[420sx]

having to pay a higher premium ? well great. lets go around and blaim EVERYBODY for the way they drive. this was 7 years ago and obviously he does it in a safer manner now. he was 16 back them. hello?

what about people that took out stated income subprime loans and defaulted? i cant get a house because of them.
"and all the innocent bystanders got hurt" now THATS a real problem.


shut the fuck up.

seriously

with all due respect,

please.

SHUT THE FUCK UP

[khmer1]

street drifting is the best just look at the japanese they do it haha

[lflkajfj12123]

Dude isnt much older than me. See I had a speeding ticket back in the days and guess what? I learned my lesson. It's not about how long ago, it's the repetitiveness that I'm talking about. Don't some people learn their lesson?? It could have been 20 years ago for all I care, guess what? People like that contributed to our high insurance rates. I'm in the insurance industry and believe me every one of us with a clean driving record is having to pay a higher premium because of people like him. Not to mention the lives he put at risk. What if one day you or dear family member was driving down the road and here comes Mr. I Drift & Race So Im Cool and BAM, kills that innocent driver. Hey let's forget about it because it happened 7 years ago before I went through puberty.

shut up seriously

your argument is so redundant

OP:

if you seriously have no intent on driving this car anywhere else than the track then there is no point in all that shit

you could register it as a weekend car requirements are like under 10k miles a year or something

also depends if you have money for a tow for the events

weigh your options

street drifting is the best just look at the japanese they do it hahaget the fuck off this forum

[deolio]

if you don't like driving your s13 on the road, then don't.

[The ROMAN]

on the street id rather drive something comfy and with ac.

when i get a truck i will probably keep it track only. want something fun on the street? get a bike.
i dont even enjoy driving my shit on the street because its too loud stiff, hot inside etc.


and ROMAN, i think everyone here missed the point of your post. why pay for reg and ins if its a track car only? saves money to go towards events and tires. trailers are not that expensive either.

Yeah, it makes sense. Towing isn't a problem either, I was waiting for stories of "I couldn't drive my car so when something broke it broke at the track and I spent a $200 track day fixing it" or some other odd situation. I'll have to look into non-op or limited reg for it. I have a bike too and it's awesome fun.

[khmer1]

haha that guy is mad anyways get 2 240 one track one dd no?

[cc4usmc]

Erjay1--You're missing the point. The OP learned his lesson 7 years ago.. he just happens to still be paying for it. You blamed him for the fact that 240 owners have to pay higher rates, but back then it wasn't like it is now. There was hardly a scene, cops weren't out profiling import owners and I doubt insurance companies were too. If he had said that he was still being retarded, bash away. How would you like it if I tried to give you shit for your ticket? Since I haven't gotten a ticket in my car, it's everyone's fault but mine. And nobody here needs to be schooled on the effects of bad driving. wahh wahh

[420sx]

its better to get a truck to dd. seriously.

but another 240 is a cheap option too. then you going to have to drive the car to the track

[s13boy89]

i borrowed my friends coupe and he didn't know i took it off road sorry Ruben lol

[Matej]

If I couldn't drive my 240 on the street, I'd sell it.

[Blackparade]

I dont drive my car on the street anymore. I have a nice daily.

[ericcastro]

dbl post...............

[ericcastro]

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I stopped reading, but if your not listed above this in my post,

Your probably a complete fucking moron.

[turbobrick]

If I couldn't drive my 240 on the street, I'd sell it.

I kinda feel the same way. Even though its not as comfortable as my other car, I still enjoy driving it. And I dont see the point of only being able to drive it once a month.

[Matej]

For me it's all about riding off into the sunset with the windows down and the city skyline towering in the background. I can spend all night driving to random places. I know I could do that in any car, but it's just not the same.

[420sx]

and hearing your v8 roar. i know the picture. its cool once in a while but it gets old to do it all the time. and if u get ur track car on the street 1-2 a month, whats the point? tags and insurance cost money. i guess different strokes for different folks bud

[REVGASM]

If I couldn't drive my 240 on the street, I'd sell it.

i feeel the same way

[INeedNewTires]

If I couldn't drive my 240 on the street, I'd sell it.

I feel the exact opposite. if your 240 is stock KA and close to stock suspension then thats one thing, but once you put SR, exhaust, coils, wheels, seat, harnesses, etc. in it, the joy of driving it on the street is COMPLETELY gone. Then its stressfull as fuck constantantly watching out for:

cops,
pot holes,
train tracks,
shit in the road,
SUV drivers that cant see you,
ricers trying to race you,
theives attention,
crummy lighting at night (i dont care if you have HID's dropped into your shit, still isint 1/5 as good as new cars light output)

Dont even get me started on parking it and going inside somewhere. Shit makes you nervous as fuck to know someone with a screwdriver and a broken spark plug can take your car in about 1 min flat.

Me? I'm so glad to have a truck and a trailer, my shit stays safe in the garage locked up with the windows up and alarm on, tires chocked, sometimes sitting on a jackstand in a nice neighborhood... Nothing makes me happier than driving a crappy ass truck that gets 13 mpg just to know shes home safe....

[ESmorz]

If you have a another car just non-op it. Simple as that.

Side note: If your join date was within the year 2008 (except Revgasm) and you posted in this thread you are retarted.

[cc4usmc]

^ You just made the cut :p

[ESmorz]

^ You just made the cut :p


It wasn't a n00b thing.

They just all happened to fall into an easily indetifiable category lol.

[Matej]

if your 240 is stock KA and close to stock suspension then thats one thing, but once you put SR, exhaust, coils, wheels, seat, harnesses, etc. in it, the joy of driving it on the street is COMPLETELY gone.
Why do you mod your car in a way that makes the joy of driving it go away?

[Fries]

I feel the exact opposite. if your 240 is stock KA and close to stock suspension then thats one thing, but once you put SR, exhaust, coils, wheels, seat, harnesses, etc. in it, the joy of driving it on the street is COMPLETELY gone. Then its stressfull as fuck constantantly watching out for:

cops,
pot holes,
train tracks,
shit in the road,
SUV drivers that cant see you,
ricers trying to race you,
theives attention,
crummy lighting at night (i dont care if you have HID's dropped into your shit, still isint 1/5 as good as new cars light output)

Dont even get me started on parking it and going inside somewhere. Shit makes you nervous as fuck to know someone with a screwdriver and a broken spark plug can take your car in about 1 min flat.

Me? I'm so glad to have a truck and a trailer, my shit stays safe in the garage locked up with the windows up and alarm on, tires chocked, sometimes sitting on a jackstand in a nice neighborhood... Nothing makes me happier than driving a crappy ass truck that gets 13 mpg just to know shes home safe....


This is the only reason I'm happy to have moved to Kansas. 90% of the time I leave my car unlocked with my keys in the ignition and my wallet in the center console.

[INeedNewTires]

Why do you mod your car in a way that makes the joy of driving it go away?

The joy of driving it hard, drifting, or on the track has increased ten fold!

These cars suck on the street once you stiffen the fuck out of them. Which is what most of us do.

The 'Joy' has increased exponentially, try drifting a stock 240, then try with SR and coils, SO much better, more fun, more enjoyable.

If i wanted to joy on the streets, i'd buy a G37 or a Z... but 500 a month to me is better spent on tires, fuel, upgrades, rather than a fun to drive street car that will just get me into trouble.

[Mister.E]

i would say just do what most have already suggested and non-op it...

do you already have access to a truck and trailer that you can use to bring the car to events? if not, do you plan to purchase either sometime in the future?

[The ROMAN]

^^^Yep got access to a truck and trailer, been using it for awhile now. Also picked up a beater single-cam for commuting.

For me it's all about riding off into the sunset with the windows down and the city skyline towering in the background. I can spend all night driving to random places. I know I could do that in any car, but it's just not the same.

This was really the only thing keeping it on the road for me. I would take it out for a cruise or a test drive before an event, maybe meet some friends at a diner, etc. Except the cruise consisted of clenching my teeth over bumps in the road, getting followed by cops, getting hassled by anyone with a sporty car and showing up where ever I went sweaty if it wasn't winter. Drift cars are really only fun when they're drifting.

The main thing that got me thinking about it was when I found out I still have all those points on my record. Basically any little thing could put me on the bus again, so why push my luck by attracting attention? I could re-insure it in a few years when it won't screw me out of my commute to work if a blinker doesn't work and I get a failure to give proper signal ticket. Or maybe I won't miss it and save myself some money, eh.

[White Comet]

I once had 18 points on my license. As of right now it has come down to 9 (3 points off every year for 3 years), but that still means if I get a reckless or something similar, I could lose my license again, since it's an automatic penalty if you hit 12 points.


How does one person have EIGHTEEN points?

Don't they take your license away after like seven points?

Your points dont get removed when you come off of suspension...

If you were at 12 when it got taken away, you're at 12 when you start driving again.
every state has different laws, but i found myself in a similar situation here in Pa. i hit 18 (or a few more) points and lost my license (obviously) since it gets taken away at 6. when yo get your license restored in pa, you get it back at 5 points, meaning one more point and you lose it again. op, how many points before you lose your license in your state? the thing that doesnt make sense about getting your license back at however many points you lost it at means you still shouldn't have a license. ie- let's say you lost it at 12 and you get 3 points off a year, if you get it restored at 12, you'd have to go 4 years of not getting pulled over to get down to 0. lets say in your state you lose legally lose your license at 6 points, so if you got up to 12, after 2 years of no more tickets, you'd still be right where your license gets taken at.

[The ROMAN]

every state has different laws, but i found myself in a similar situation here in Pa. i hit 18 (or a few more) points and lost my license (obviously) since it gets taken away at 6. when yo get your license restored in pa, you get it back at 5 points, meaning one more point and you lose it again. op, how many points before you lose your license in your state? the thing that doesnt make sense about getting your license back at however many points you lost it at means you still shouldn't have a license. ie- let's say you lost it at 12 and you get 3 points off a year, if you get it restored at 12, you'd have to go 4 years of not getting pulled over to get down to 0. lets say in your state you lose legally lose your license at 6 points, so if you got up to 12, after 2 years of no more tickets, you'd still be right where your license gets taken at.

Here in NJ you lose it at 12 automatically. When you get it back you have 12 and a year of probation, meaning any moving violation is another automatic suspension plus whatever points you earned. I got it back, proceeded to get another ticket and lost it again...four times total. I lost it once for not signaling, another time for 74 in a 55. It's a tough hole to get out of and a lot of times people never get out of it.

[White Comet]

actually pa sounds easier, i had 18 or so points and got my license back with only 5 on it

[lflkajfj12123]

you had me at
Drift cars are really only fun when they're drifting.

[soreballz]

Side note: If your join date was within the year 2008 (except Revgasm) and you posted in this thread you are retarted.
... Says the guy that just spelled RETARDED incorrectly...


:keke:

[TheXFlames]

... Says the guy that just spelled RETARDED incorrectly...


:keke:


nicee....:axe:

[Koopa Troopa]

Sweet, I made a sig quote!

My plans when I return to the states would be to pick up a Cadillac with a tow hook and a dolly. A V8 Caddy has more than enough low end torque to tow a S13 or in my case, a Civic.

You can get Caddy's for pretty cheap. It's what I recommend.

Shit, I once towed a downed 180 60 some kilometers in my EG6

[ESmorz]

... Says the guy that just spelled RETARDED incorrectly...


:keke:

Man, I haven't slept in 3 days.

Leave me alone.

:love:

[blueshark123]

buy a small pickup with a dolly they only cost around 700 used on cl and u can now tow ur car, tires and shit. plus no worries if u break something

[420sx]

Why do you mod your car in a way that makes the joy of driving it go away?

because he tracks his car. :spank::spank:

[The ROMAN]

buy a small pickup with a dolly they only cost around 700 used on cl and u can now tow ur car, tires and shit. plus no worries if u break something

I almost got a tow dolly until I heard about the damage they can do to your transmission if you don't disconnect the driveshaft. That and it is a worry if you smash up the rear suspension. Full trailers aren't much more expensive, either. A place I went to had new dollies for $1750 and a full trailer for 2k even, so used they should be pretty close in price too. I use an 4.6 F150 with a tow package and a regular steel trailer with wood planks and it does the job, but anything smaller might be a pain for longer trips or hilly highways.

An aluminum trailer is an option, although they're twice the price of course. An open one will weigh around 900lbs (vs around 1700lbs for steel and wood), so if you're just towing a stripped out 240 you could probably get away with something like a Frontier or a Tacoma. Even the 4 cylinder model is rated to 3500lbs, although it might feel wobbly and unstable the whole time.

[blueshark123]

yea i just dont have no where to leave a trailer so a dolly is the best i can do

[!Zar!]

A dolly isn't good for for rwd cars.

[420sx]

its fine. as long as the car isnt in gear haha

[Landers]

If I couldn't drive my 240 on the street, I'd sell it.


Wordddd listen to this man. :trogdor:

[pinkarrowsnow]

Mines a love hate. somedays I absolutely love driving on the street on a nice warm day, but as soon as I get a daily I hope my car only see's a few nice day drives and track days. It straight up sucks getting in a fully built 240 with stiff ass coilovers at 6 in the morning haha.

[SlideWell]

street drifting...keep it to a minimal. then again, my car is flashy enough where i dont need the extra attention. my previous s14, i had a guy jump off of his seat outside of a bar and say " dooood is that a 240?!?!" i said "yeah it is." he said "drift that corner." this was in downtown, lots of people around, and lots of curbs. i said no and said why, but i did do a little burn out for him and he screamed in joy. nothing good can come from street drifting. whether people consider my car a drift car or what i do, an all around street performance vehicle, if i want to drift i keep it on the track or go to a very secluded place. my car is a daily driver.

[Die Trying]

roman, are you talking about the English town track?

well anyway i live in dirty jersey too, and my s14 stands out a bit so i do get some attention from the local cops. and not for speeding, like last week i got pulled over in a wawa parking lot for not having a front plate....while i was still parked. my point is i understand about NJ's nazi cops and Nazi inspection. if you feel you cant pass inspecion and think cops are going to hassle your hot rod, take it off the road and build a nasty drift machine. but at the same time, remember NJ cops will pull you over in any car for breaking one little law so sometime it doesnt matter what you drive

[The ROMAN]

roman, are you talking about the English town track?

well anyway i live in dirty jersey too, and my s14 stands out a bit so i do get some attention from the local cops. and not for speeding, like last week i got pulled over in a wawa parking lot for not having a front plate....while i was still parked. my point is i understand about NJ's nazi cops and Nazi inspection. if you feel you cant pass inspecion and think cops are going to hassle your hot rod, take it off the road and build a nasty drift machine. but at the same time, remember NJ cops will pull you over in any car for breaking one little law so sometime it doesnt matter what you drive

Yeah cops here can be a real pain when they want to. I like to think I'm pretty low key, but I still get stopped once and awhile. They'll say I was swerving or rolled through a red and ask if I've been drinking or some other bs. I just follow the procedure, keep my hands out the window where they can see em, don't reach for paperwork until he is at the window and I get let go with no trouble. When I drove the drift car I would get all kinds of cowboys pulling me over too, making up shit about a car "matching my description" involved in a robbery or something. What a joke.

But yeah...Englishtown...can't wait to get back on that road course. Two day events are gonna be intense.

[aoiken3]

at some point, i'd like to get a nice daily and keep my 240 strictly for track purposes

[gotspins13]

we street drift almost every weekend and were still kinda alright, seen alot of crashes and friends gettin towed and stuff but its still fun to go out, there isnt much events up in norcal very often so we settle for less

[Koopa Troopa]

I've been trying to start some illegal street gymkhana but I'm not getting any support for it.....