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bing
03-08-2009, 10:06 AM
The New York Times > Log In (http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/world/middleeast/08drift.html?_r=3&hp)



This shit for real?



March 8, 2009

Saudi Racers Roar All Night, Fueled by Boredom

By ROBERT F. WORTH



JIDDA, Saudi Arabia — The young men start gathering around midnight, on a broad strip of highway between the desert and the sea. By 1 a.m. there are hundreds of them, standing in clusters alongside their cars, glancing around uneasily for the police.



Then, with a scream of revving engines, it begins: a yellow Corvette and a red Mitsubishi go head to head, racing down the road at terrifying speeds, just inches apart. Shouts go up from the sidelines, and another pair of racers shoot down the road, and another.



This may be the most popular sport of Saudi youth, an obsessive, semilegal competition that dominates weekend nights here. It ranges from garden variety drag racing to “drifting,” an extremely dangerous practice in which drivers deliberately spin out and skid sideways at high speeds, sometimes killing themselves and spectators.



For Saudi Arabia’s vast and underemployed generation of young people, these reckless night battles are a kind of collective scream of frustration, a rare outlet for exuberance in an ultraconservative country where the sexes are rigorously segregated and most public entertainment is illegal. They are, almost literally, bored out of their minds.



“Why do they do it?” said Suhail Janoudi, a 27-year-old sales clerk who was watching the races from the roadside with a faint smile around 1:30 a.m. “Because they have nothing else to do. Because they are empty.”

Some young people, asked why they risked their lives this way, said it was because of “tufush,” a colloquial Arabic word for boredom whose meaning is said by some to derive from the gestures made by a drowning man. Drifting, which tends to attract poorer, more marginal men, has also been an unlikely nexus between homosexuality, crime and jihadism since it emerged 30 years ago. Homoerotic desire is a constant theme in Saudi songs and poems about drifting, and accomplished drifters are said to have their pick of the prettiest boys among the spectators Drugs sometimes also play a role. But a number of drifters have also become Islamic militants, including Youssef al-Ayyeri, the founder of Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, who fought in Afghanistan and was killed by security forces in Saudi Arabia in 2003.



“The idea behind drifting is, the economy and society don’t need you,” said Pascal Ménoret, an anthropologist who did four years of field work in Riyadh, the capital, and is now teaching at Princeton and writing a book on Saudi youth culture. “They are mostly young Bedouins who recently moved to the city, and whose lives are marked by suffering and self-destructive behavior.”



But most racers are more like young men almost anywhere: restless, thrill-seeking and madly in love with cars.



“It’s implanted in you when you’re a kid, and it stays with you,” said Sulayman al-Shulukhi, 29, who races every weekend night here and has adopted a 1950s greaser look: slicked-back hair, polo shirt with the collar up, jeans and white shoes.



He proudly showed off the modifications he had made to his Subaru Impreza: a carbon fiber spoiler, an intake valve, a special ventilation system, a turbocharger. He then jumped in the car for a ride along one of the racing strips near King Road, not far from Jidda’s Red Sea coast.

“We get up to 120 kilometers per hour on this part” (about 75 miles per hour), he said, as he accelerated down a perilously short trip of highway, “and 200 on this next one.”



As he drove, Mr. Shulukhi narrated a tale of a recent accident on this road in which a friend’s car had caught on fire during a race, and another one in which a driver had spun out of control and died after his car burst into flames. His world is full of driving disasters and driving heroes, some of them local men. He frequently invokes the racing movies “The Fast and the Furious” and its sequels, and “Death Race.”



Later, when the roads have emptied out a bit, it is time for some drifting. Raif Mansour al-Dammas, a skinny 21-year-old who looks much younger, gets into his beat-up white 1980s Nissan and revs the engine until white smoke pours out. Admiring shouts go up from a cluster of young men.

Then the car leaps forward, accelerating furiously, and breaks into a sudden skid, spinning around, nearly colliding with a concrete barrier and leaving thick black marks on the pavement. A stifling smell of burnt rubber hangs in the air.



Standing nearby, Mr. Shulukhi explained that he and his friends, who all race Subarus, were not really drifters. The distinction is more about social status than activity; he and his friends are mostly middle class and do not see themselves as outlaws.



“That’s a different path from what we’re doing,” he said. “That’s crazy, forbidden stuff.”



Mr. Shulukhi mentions the famous case of Faisal al-Otaibi, 27, a drifter who was sentenced to death after his car crashed during a joy ride in 2005, killing three teenage boys he had taken along with him. The sentence was reduced this year to 3,000 lashes, 20 years in prison and a lifetime driving ban.



Since the arrest of Mr. Otaibi, who is always known in the Saudi press as Abu Kab (meaning, roughly, the guy with the baseball cap), the Saudi police have cracked down on drifting, treating all deaths that result from the practice as criminally negligent homicides.



But even drag racing is dangerous, and despite its prevalence in every major Saudi city, the police try to discourage it.



Just after 1:30, a group of police cars show up, lights flashing, sending the racers scattering. The officers do not arrest anyone. They just step out of their cars and begin talking to the young men in a paternal manner, urging them to go home.



“We have another place we go when this happens,” Mr. Shulukhi said confidently, getting into his Impreza and driving a few blocks to a shopping center parking lot. There, scores of other young men are waiting by their cars, some examining their engines. At 2:30, the police show up again, the next step in a game of cat and mouse that lasts much of the night.



This time Mr. Shulukhi and his friends drive north, stopping for coffee at a drive-through called French Roast, until they reach their ace in the hole: a dark strip of highway just outside the city with a construction site on one side and desert on the other. They drag-race their Subarus along a quarter-mile strip for another hour or so. About 5 a.m., the road begins to fill up with delivery trucks driven by Pakistani immigrants, doing the kind of low-wage job most Saudi men refuse to take. The racers decide to call it a night, and drive reluctantly home.

S14DB
03-08-2009, 10:10 AM
Don't forget Drifters join Al Qaeda too!

murda-c
03-08-2009, 10:17 AM
Who here DIDN'T know that drifting was a good way to pick up dudes?

I mean honestly...

zhins50
03-08-2009, 10:23 AM
This article is very true but there is something very concerning about it, there was no mention of the more commonly know form of automotive drifting ( not sliding a fwd car at 120mph into a crowd ). This one article, if not haddled correctly, could truly taint the sport we call drifting in the eyes of popular media. If you talk to anyone about this article please be very clear about the differences between the sport we love and the retarded shit these undersexed social rejects are doing.

Enna
03-08-2009, 10:41 AM
Street drifting strikes again. I'm getting really sick of this shit. Also love the part where "fast and the furious" is part of their motivation. They are just as retarded as the lil ricer kids.

yokotavia
03-08-2009, 10:52 AM
I bet the author owns a automatic civic with neons and a huge wing.

I10cruiser
03-08-2009, 10:54 AM
hahaha i guess they take us serious when we say i love you to each other or i wanna spoon with with u as ive seen a lot on here hahahahah

getsideways
03-08-2009, 11:05 AM
I feel bad for the bystanders, so don't get me wrong when i say this

But it's funny to see a serious peice on this because everyone is probably use to seeing 'Arab Drifting' with techno as background music :bigok:

Slammed180
03-08-2009, 11:13 AM
What's wrong with techno?
Hater

S14DB
03-08-2009, 11:14 AM
I bet the author owns a automatic civic with neons and a huge wing.

Somehow I don't see a Ph.D. from Princeton doing that.

projectRDM
03-08-2009, 11:25 AM
This article is very true but there is something very concerning about it, there was no mention of the more commonly know form of automotive drifting ( not sliding a fwd car at 120mph into a crowd ). This one article, if not haddled correctly, could truly taint the sport we call drifting in the eyes of popular media. If you talk to anyone about this article please be very clear about the differences between the sport we love and the retarded shit these undersexed social rejects are doing.

I hope it does taint it. Heavily. I've always said drifting is completely ghey as hell, now there's proof.

bing
03-08-2009, 11:25 AM
Somehow I don't see a Ph.D. from Princeton doing that.

word...

Robert F. Worth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Worth)

i think he threw in the homo shit to spice it up... this is a pretty low case for a PH.D'd journalist

mrmephistopheles
03-08-2009, 12:16 PM
Drifting - gateway to terrorism and homosexuality.

Wow that article reads like republican party propaganda!

xs240
03-08-2009, 12:20 PM
Pretty obvious it's the new york times. Good for doctor office reading laughs. These losers know nothing about the middle-east or motorsports. Not the first time.

ixfxi
03-08-2009, 12:49 PM
Wow, and I thought the LAtimes sucked with writers like DAN NEIL (you fucking asshole, Dan).

s13.dark1
03-08-2009, 01:13 PM
I hope it does taint it. Heavily. I've always said drifting is completely ghey as hell, now there's proof.


you now the angry crap you type is always worth a quick skim, but your tech is always dead on good sir... damn you

JohnnyDrfiter22
03-08-2009, 01:15 PM
When i was stationed in Kuwait City 3 years ago, I would get off work late at night and all along the highway on thrusdays cuz thats when there weekends start there would be tons of High Dollar cars, bikes etc lined up drag racing and drifting. Its not Homo to them and there Culture cuz Men are for pleasure and the women are for babies. So this author obviously didnt know the whole truth.

flip3d
03-08-2009, 01:35 PM
I bet the author has a son that owns an automatic civic with neons and a huge wing.

there. fixed.

Matej
03-08-2009, 01:46 PM
Plowing into spectators is the only enjoyment I get out of drifting.

ayuaddict
03-08-2009, 03:20 PM
dude.

he has an intake valve.

ManoNegra
03-08-2009, 09:49 PM
That explains drifters obsession with glitter.:keke:

lflkajfj12123
03-08-2009, 10:01 PM
lol pretty sure what those dudes are doing out there is not drifting

all they try and do is go like 100 on the highways then spin the car as many times as they can. most of them doing this in toyota camrys

theres plenty of videos of them on the internet

HyperTek
03-08-2009, 10:11 PM
who cares.. its THEIR IDEA of what drifting is... lol

HyperTek
03-08-2009, 10:14 PM
Mr. Shulukhi mentions the famous case of Faisal al-Otaibi, 27, a drifter who was sentenced to death after his car crashed during a joy ride in 2005, killing three teenage boys he had taken along with him. The sentence was reduced this year to 3,000 lashes, 20 years in prison and a lifetime driving ban.

we need those type of sentences out here but in prison for life... is nick hogan still free? lol

Phlip
03-08-2009, 11:08 PM
When people see me, I am:
- a weed fiend.
- a randomly malicious criminal
- a father of several children
- violent, if for nothing other than boredom

... all because my skin is dark and I have long dreads.

But

I could give less than a FUCK about drifting, so I will gladly sit back and laugh at ANYTHING that disparages drifters just for the simple fact of being drifters...
By my definition, "drifters" are still homeless people who do not settle on one place.

StalinDrift123
03-08-2009, 11:22 PM
WHATS THIS GARBAGE?!?!?!

stupid writers!!! drifting did not originate in Saudi!!! it was originated in Japan!!!
anyways, just because one likes cars and racing, doesnt make u gay! HAHAHA. thats the funniest shit ever!

hey you MOFO'S!!! DONT DRIFT IT'LL MAKE YOU GAY!!! HAHAHAHA!!!

afwfjustin
03-08-2009, 11:26 PM
Guys that is a totally different type of drifting that we know of here. They drift, or "ass drag" camry's and other fwd cars in a straight line, trying to keep the car going sideways, back and forth. There are a lot of pretty crazy videos around online of them hitting people and stuff. It's both hilarious and sad.

Here's some examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCc9jZqMQx8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoDc0V3MwPQ

Here's the crashes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFQx1IvXzu8

Matej
03-08-2009, 11:27 PM
The cars are light.

The tires are slick.

The boys are pretty.

StalinDrift123
03-08-2009, 11:29 PM
looks like we lost Matej to gay drifting!

AndrewTography
03-08-2009, 11:36 PM
philip i dont get your statement at all.

ericcastro
03-08-2009, 11:43 PM
hEEyyy Boyzzzz!!

who wants to stay at my house in Hollywood for the 2010 meet??

If i knew this article was "coming out" I wouldn't have had to put the purple sparkle vinyl on my car today.

Does Rhys get his pic of the boyz? I've never seen him giving out pit passes and ride alongs, but I haven't payed attention.

kevmeistah21
03-08-2009, 11:55 PM
cliff notes please!

adam s
03-09-2009, 02:22 AM
Heres a dude getting run over, and im really sorry but i was laughing my ass off.

YouTube - Drift goes wrong - saudi getting over run! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9LYPCaqf0E&feature=related)

opponheimer
03-09-2009, 07:43 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OseurKQG9Ns/SPk8N1EKrYI/AAAAAAAACVM/cuRSP-fDMbc/s400/drift-cvr1.png


Now when i go to meets or somone asks me for my # to hang out, I'm going to be a bit more cautious. I heard you can also get AIDs from drifting as well.

projectRDM
03-09-2009, 09:20 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OseurKQG9Ns/SPk8N1EKrYI/AAAAAAAACVM/cuRSP-fDMbc/s400/drift-cvr1.png


Now when i go to meets or somone asks me for my # to hang out, I'm going to be a bit more cautious. I heard you can also get AIDs from drifting as well.

^ That is fucking awesome. I just peed all my floor I laughed so hard.

TravisSW
03-09-2009, 09:24 AM
Plowing into spectators is the only enjoyment I get out of drifting.

:rofl:
I'm sure that isn't the only thing you like plowing into. ;)

Drifting - gateway to terrorism and homosexuality.

Wow that article reads like republican party propaganda!

You bet your ass. Now I just gotta :fruit: Teddy and blow some stuff up!:wcc:

Monooxide
03-09-2009, 10:10 AM
Besides this article...

A lot of 240 owners I have seen, particularly the "new" generation 240 owner...as in like the last 1~1.5 years have been increasingly more faggish IMO. With the tight pants, emo/scene hair and so forth. Some of these guys wear pants that girls would die to be able to fit into...it's just absolutely ridiculous.

Just a personal observation.

VROOOM
03-09-2009, 10:15 AM
drifting = figure skating???

DALAZ_68
03-09-2009, 10:34 AM
Plowing into spectators is the only enjoyment I get out of drifting.

i prefer plowing girls...

By my definition, "drifters" are still homeless people who do not settle on one place.
LOL :bigok:

The cars are light.

The tires are slick.

The boys are pretty.
FAST AND THE FURIOUS 5 : SAUDI NIGHTS

driftsilvias13
03-09-2009, 10:47 AM
i prefer plowing girls...

LOL :bigok:


FAST AND THE FURIOUS 5 : SAUDI NIGHTS

HAHAHHAHA man your post made my laugh so hard at work

Matej
03-09-2009, 11:09 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_OseurKQG9Ns/SPk8N1EKrYI/AAAAAAAACVM/cuRSP-fDMbc/s400/drift-cvr1.png
Brokeback Mountain Touge.

NeedCAforS13
03-09-2009, 01:12 PM
Funniest thing I've read in awhile... sent links around the office. Everyone already makes fun of my baby blue s14. Haha.

hapa_s13
03-09-2009, 01:43 PM
goddamnit, he caught us. exposing us and our sexuality to the world. time to go hide in a cave.

hapa_s13
03-09-2009, 01:44 PM
zomg!



Bin Laden is in my cave!

dori_sil8t
03-09-2009, 02:41 PM
i knew something was up with yashio factory

Otto347
03-09-2009, 02:58 PM
WHATS THIS GARBAGE?!?!?!

stupid writers!!! drifting did not originate in Saudi!!! it was originated in Japan!!!
Like no way....are you cereal?

jspeedm
03-09-2009, 05:20 PM
they must be really bored. i've seen a lot of videos where they're spinning and crashing 7 series bmws.

kalypso123
03-09-2009, 05:24 PM
Drifting, which tends to attract poorer, more marginal men, has also been an unlikely nexus between homosexuality, crime and jihadism since it emerged 30 years ago.


LOL!!!!!

420sx
03-09-2009, 07:07 PM
there is only one that can be said in reply to this buttsex galore. its one word. and its the word that i was pinked for.

allntrlundrgrnd
03-09-2009, 07:31 PM
lollol

funny stuff

DataXUnknown
03-10-2009, 12:26 AM
^^^^^^^^^ lol @ "Brokeback Mountain Touge"

I remember watching these dumb videos from Saudi Arabia a long time ago. They played that weird techno song "iiiii don't need anyone else in my liiife....somthin somthin somthin". And they had that Honda Accord with the doors that spin all funky. Then they were drifting the Porsche CerraraGT (sp?) and the BMW 7 series I think it was...

But yeah, nonetheless the article made me giggle. These guys are BORED OUTTA THEIR MINDS

Yeah when I'm litterally bored out of my mind, I go crazy and jump in a POS fwd car and start spinning it out of control into people. Kamakazeeeeeee!!!!

opponheimer
03-10-2009, 10:15 AM
Who is the best drifter on zilvia?

I hear Matej is the prettiest boy...

xs240
03-10-2009, 10:52 AM
It's pretty funny how some people actually support the article by stating dumbass commentaries like "oh but they do it different oh it's in saudi". Pretty much more ignorant than the author himself. Fail.

kim_jong_il
03-10-2009, 11:08 AM
Saudi on many levels is a whole big pot of screwed up shit. Drifting is the least of their worries, the House of Saud and the hoarding of the country's wealth; toss the the ridiculous Mutaween into the fray and you've got a large population that is poor and locked down with a tendency to act out.

Everywhere else in the middle east is pretty alright, but Saudi, whole other bag of issues.

spdfreek0o
03-10-2009, 11:14 AM
drifting is teh gay, we all know that

C. Anderson
03-10-2009, 11:44 AM
I liked how they said that dude had a 1950's greaser look wearing a polo with a poped collar, jeans, and white shoes. What 1950's greaser wore polo shirts and white shoes? Also in the video the guy had plastic over his seat I guess not to get it dirty.

blueshark123
03-10-2009, 12:18 PM
Someone needs to learn what drifting really is everytime their is a news article about people drifting and crashing it has to do with retarts in fwd cavaliers civics etc....

aoiken3
03-10-2009, 12:26 PM
michael jackson drifting music vid anyone??

ronmcdon
03-10-2009, 12:27 PM
I liked how they said that dude had a 1950's greaser look wearing a polo with a poped collar, jeans, and white shoes. What 1950's greaser wore polo shirts and white shoes? Also in the video the guy had plastic over his seat I guess not to get it dirty.

white shoes are plausible, but polo shirts are for squares.
but hey, we're talking about homosexual drifters in saudi (not that theres anything wrong with it).
maybe that sort of thing turns the boys on, idk.

iwishiwas-all*
03-10-2009, 12:28 PM
3000 lashes, 20 yrs in prison, and a lifetime driving ban?
I would have taken the death penalty.

Chrischeezer
03-10-2009, 12:31 PM
wow.. and i thought the Greddy profecB manual had somthing lost in translation, This is was worse..... somthing has to be a huge misunderstanding..

ronmcdon
03-10-2009, 12:33 PM
This shit for real?

I had my doubts as well.
thought it was written genuinely bad by al-jareeza,
or mockingly bad by the onion or some random dude's blog.

makes it all the more comical that it came from a semi-credible source,
and some writer with a doctorate from harvard.

ericcastro
03-10-2009, 02:25 PM
Soooo,

From now on I hope to hear this song on all the VRT and Risky Devil drift videos.

YouTube - Cher - Believe (HQ Official Music Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5xsiKBJGW4)

gotspins13
03-11-2009, 09:32 PM
haha seeing some of the vids made me think,
what do theyre moms do when the camry doesnt come home??????
hahahahahahahahaah

Vision Garage
03-11-2009, 09:55 PM
Haha. I guess we better nuke WSIR and all the homos there!

Brian O'Conner: "oh by the way DOM after you win the race lets go back to my place!"

Fonix36
03-12-2009, 12:31 AM
Drifting, which tends to attract poorer, more marginal men, has also been an unlikely nexus between homosexuality, crime and jihadism since it emerged 30 years ago


????????????????

drift freaq
03-12-2009, 01:08 AM
Drifting, which tends to attract poorer, more marginal men, has also been an unlikely nexus between homosexuality, crime and jihadism since it emerged 30 years ago


????????????????

I guess it means Drifters are terrorists in the columnists eyes. Which translates to they can use Homeland security on 240sx and Ae86 owners. LOL

Ceepo
03-12-2009, 10:45 AM
AaaaaLlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

But on a serious note, why do they let one minded idiots write these types of things, portraying everyone that is related to drifting as idiots, homosexuals, and terrorist?

NeedCAforS13
03-12-2009, 11:04 AM
...portraying everyone that is related to drifting as idiots, homosexuals, and terrorist?

You mean it's not true?

chokudoriS13
03-12-2009, 04:58 PM
I swear, over the several years I've been gone, it seems the intelligence quotient has really dropped around here for the most part... Maybe it's the fact that I'm about to turn 29 (Jeeeeeeeezus Chiiiiist!) and had an S13 before many of you had a license... Anyway...

The guy is has a Ph.D. in Middle Eastern studies... He went out and did research. Apparently, this was good enough for the Times. I'm sure he has his ducks in a row (aside from the "intake valve" of course :p).

On another forum, a member who worked in Saudi Arabia and visited these events confirmed that most of these "drifters" are poor, marginalized youth, many of whom are not native Saudis... Most are poor Iranians rejected by mainstream Saudi society. This is the reason for the "unlikely nexus" between their version of drifting, jihadism and homosexuality... All three are done by the throw-aways of Saudi society and they all happen to meet at the same place, which seems to lead to some sort of cross-over.


Oh, Dave and Kevin! Long time no talk :D :P.

BustedS13
03-12-2009, 05:37 PM
nI3lcwsMMPU

totally gay

this one feels like something i would have made in 1999. i even used to have that retarded carmina burana remix.

nRSFzaUyjsc

HARMLESS?

AFSil80
03-12-2009, 06:02 PM
I could give less than a FUCK about drifting, so I will gladly sit back and laugh at ANYTHING that disparages drifters just for the simple fact of being drifters...
By my definition, "drifters" are still homeless people who do not settle on one place.

I agree with this man. Let's be real...glitter, flamboyant paint jobs and dildo bubble knobs. If that doens't scream "I love men in my butt' then I don't know what does.

ESmorz
03-12-2009, 06:10 PM
I agree with this man. Let's be real...glitter, flamboyant paint jobs and dildo bubble knobs. If that doens't scream "' then I don't know what does.

I'd imagine screaming "I love men in my butt" would do the trick.