So I went to a job orientation today...

[soreballz]

This is kind of long... Lemme give the full story first....

I found an ad on Craigslist a few days back (Monday). The title said "Distribution Company Now Hiring (Inland Empire)".

Here's the ad:
Distribution company is now looking to fill 8-10 open positions immediately .No experience required, we provide free company training.
Weekly pay, bonuses, company award trips and benefits after 90 days. This is NOT an agency.
Please contact Brad to schedule an interview 909-466-6459




* Location: Inland Empire
* Compensation: 300 plus bonuses per co. agreement


I said to myself, "Hey, that's not too bad. Its better than nothing!"

I called right away, and they said to come in at 3:30 for a interview. COOL! When I got there, the sign on the door said "Distributor Warehouse, Inc." Inside, there were no signs of any kind, and there were a bunch of other people filling out applications. A couple of them were gangster-looking cholo types, and a couple others looked like bums. I kind of laughed and thought to myself, "Wow, these people aren't going to be hired." The application itself was possibly the shortest, most basic application I've ever seen in my life, and had no company information on it whatsoever. I thought nothing of it at the time.

When I went in for the interview, a girl came in to interview at the same time. She was more than qualified for the job, so I figured she'd be a shoe-in for the position...

So the interview begins, and the lady starts to explain what the company is, and what the job is. Her brief explanation was that they're a company that sells appliances and power tools by doing in-home demonstrations for customers that are either interested in the product, or already own the product, and are interested in upgrading. After going over our applications and getting our contact info, we were told they'd call us by 6pm to let us know if our applications cleared and that we'd be accepted to the 3-day orientation.

Six PM rolls around, no call. Six-thirty, they call to let me know that my application cleared. The orientation would take place Thursday, Friday, and Saturday from noon to six PM, and we'd only have a 10 minute break, so I should bring a lunch.

So, I get there today at 11:50 just to look good, and I see that the two cholo guys that I saw Monday were there in the lobby, and to my surprise, the girl that interview alongside me Monday wasn't there. I found that a bit odd. At that point, I started feeling that this all seemed sort of fishy. I thought to myself, "Man, wouldn't it be some shit if this was a Kirby vacuums sales job?" I shrugged and laughed that thought away.

After waiting around for twenty-five minutes or so, we were escorted to a back training office where the orientation would take place. I took my seat, looked around, and what did I see on the walls? MOTHER FUCKING KIRBY VACUUM CLEANER POSTERS. I thought to myself, "Oh shit, fuck me. This sucks... But damn, I need a job really bad..."
Now, some of you may be sitting here thinking, "What the fuck is the big deal? What's Kirby, and why is this an issue?" Well, my friends, a quick Google search of the term "kirby scam" will answer all sorts of questions for you. Basically, they're a company that has been around for a very long time that ONLY sells door to door, the vacuums are INSANELY overpriced, and they have a tendency to fuck over both the customers AND the so-called "employees" that are working so hard to try and sell their product.

Since I had nothing better to do, I figured I'd sit through this orientation and listen to the bullshit... And boy, was I right. It is bullshit. The promise three hundred bucks a week as base pay, plus bonuses and commission, but you HAVE to work SIX days a week, for between eight to ten hours a day. The recruiter explained the pay scale, which sounds totally awesome at first, but as you start to think about it, you realize how fucked it is.

During the break, I talked to some of the other guys at the orienatation. I asked, "So, what do you guys think? Do you think its bullshit, or legit?" ALL of these suckers replied with, "Come on man, of course its legit. It has to be, otherwise nobody else would be working here."

The recruiter chick painted the company to be this wonderful thing, and put TONS of emphasis on not listening to the naysayers that will try to sway us and convince us not to take the job. And I do mean TONS. At the end, before she let us go home, she said, "Alright, I'm gonna go around the room, and I want each of you to tell me what you're gonna say tonight when you go home and someone tells you not to do this job."

WOW. This lady is ruthless. This company preys on people. Not just consumers, but young people that need jobs as well. They brainwash you, make HUGE promises, and from what I've heard from a couple of my friends, and testimonials on the net, they rarely come through with what they promise.
Needless to say, I will NOT be going back tomorrow. Fuck those guys.


Cliffs: Got duped into going to an orientation, come to find out its for the Kirby vacuum company, a company that is a well-known wart on the ass of society. FUCK THEM.



Anybody else have any experience with these people?

[ronmcdon]

Entertaining story. Thanks for sharing.
Personally if it were me, I wouldn't have showed up for the 2nd orientation.
At that point, you pretty much knew you had to be door to door salesman.
kirby vacuum or not, that's a step below working at McDonald's.

Lol, at this point I think you should follow-up.
if the opportunity presents itself, take the $300 and run!
also, get some of your unemployed friends to join as a prank

[YoungGun]

Good read, thanks.

[RiversideS13]

i think you should go buy a credit watch service just in case they fuck with your identity

[aoiken3]

there's too many dumbasses in the world like the cholos you met.

[SochBAT]

Funny, I went to a similar place a few months back. I was hurting to much for money, but FUCK THAT PLACE TO HELL.

The one I had gone to was called Platinum Systems. His best worker has been employed for a full 6 months! And has sold already 4 vacuums! He also mentioned they had JUST opened up, which was a lie. I looked into it some, and they have been around locally for a year and a half under the title Platinum Systems.

I have not been so out of place in my life. Same scenario, cholos and deadbeats. On the second day, a handful of people were present. They went around asking, "So how dedicated are you to this? How strong is your drive?" Everyone gave that dull remark, the show went on. After all the BS about how wonderful the company is, and how it sent XX managers and top sellling employees to Hawaii/Aspen/Heaven, he asked us what position we wanted. In front of everyone, I told him, "I have seriously wasted 2 days of my life with this. Seriously. Who wants to sell Kirby's for a living? I'm going to have to pass on this 'wonderful opportunity.' But thanks for wasting my time."

Biggest waste of time EVER. Oh god, I implore you guys to spread the word about Kirby and their bullshit scam.

Kyle, lets just fucking sell drugs.

[C. Senor]

^kyle can't sell drugs, because then he'd be in my territory. (joking in case any one thinks i actually sell. just because i look like i do, doesnt meant i do..lol.)

that sucks kyle. see you should have hooked up with the receptionist.

look in the paper. they usually have quite a bit of job in there. for real wharehouses.

[BustedS13]

i've been fucked into scammy sales job open houses too. i hate that shit.

"Sup, we know we told you this was a tech support job but what if we told you you could SELL LIFE INSURANCE DOOR TO DOOR ROFL"

[HyperTek]

dude i see these type of things all the time.. they dont give you a job description, esp you see all over monster.com and jobing.com these marketing companys hiring the right people to make a career in marketing.. and then you get called for an interview and they dont exactly tell you what its about lol. If they dont tell me what the job description is over the phone, i cancel the interviews.

Sucks cuz those are the only job listings you see right now lol.


Funny how you mention the cholo type guys and thinking they wont get the job and you would.. i was at a orientation for direct tv for satalite install, they would pay 17 an hour.. I went to the orientation, and there was alot of bum looking guys and gangsta wannabes,.. i had to wait to the very end til they called me *i was dressed up for it like an interview* just to be told my driving record was bad.. lol. im thinking dam did they really consider some of those other guys? lol

[cc4usmc]

I'd be pissed if they thought I was a cholo too.


haha.. i keed i keed

[HyperTek]

dude they waste your time!!! money is important to me, so wasting my gas on a stupid job interview that has no potential is just bad. lol

[SochBAT]

Ding ding ding. I'm working on my resume tomorrow, refreshing everything.

maybe then I'll land a fucking job. Good lord does this economy suck.

Warehouse, here i come.

[cc4usmc]

I had an interview with Pepsi last week. I was supposed to get a call this week if I made it to the next step. I haven't got a call, and I doubt I will. It's funny, I can't stop thinking about how much more qualified the guy that gets the job was over me..

[ronmcdon]

i've been fucked into scammy sales job open houses too. i hate that shit.

"Sup, we know we told you this was a tech support job but what if we told you you could SELL LIFE INSURANCE DOOR TO DOOR ROFL"

Damn 'tech-support' jobs typically aren't anything to brag about either.
It's more or less just a customer service job where the work involves more about appeasing the customer's whims and calming their fits, than it does actual trouble-shooting.

[HyperTek]

hey guys , hiring agencies seem like the best thing right now.. i got a job out in murrieta starting tomarrow, going thru boxes of plans and blueprints and doing filing.. $10.75 an hour, they said the last 2 people the hiring agency sent to this job quit.. so hopefully its not something too hard, but Ill stick with it.. even tho its a 30 minute drive for me.

[TiNMAN]

LOL

yea, we get those ads for the same exact thing on our craigslist for the bay


"looking to fill 20 positions...bla bla bla"

"$2000/month"

:rl:

[chetacheese]

sounds just like CUTCO knives. i did the same exact thing you did. showed up the first day, then said this is bullshit then took absence on the second day of orientation.

[HyperTek]

sad that people actually do that for a living *the companies i mean, not the people looking for work*

you gotta deal with trying to convince people, sometimes wasting your time talking to people who dont show up lol.

[duffman1278]

Some company like this called me before and said I was hired. I then said "Awsome!! When did I submit an application?!!?!"

And the girl was like "ummm, we have your phone number on record"

So I acted interested and and I started asking her all these random questions about the company and I'd interupt her so she wouldn't be able to answer them. Then she put me through to her manager and I told the manager the girl was being extremely rude and cutting me off while I was talking haha.

I then told the manager to take me off the list of callers. When she asked for my name I was like "whoa lady we're not going on a date here" lol

But I read up on the place and its pretty much like kirby vacuums except they sell knives.

[soreballz]

lol, I posted this on Myspace, and one of my buddies called me to tell me that he went through the same shit with a Kirby warehouse in another city yesterday. He told em to fuck off and walked out after they told him he wouldn't be filling out a W-2 or signing any payment agreements. lol


Entertaining story. Thanks for sharing.
Personally if it were me, I wouldn't have showed up for the 2nd orientation.
At that point, you pretty much knew you had to be door to door salesman.
kirby vacuum or not, that's a step below working at McDonald's.

Lol, at this point I think you should follow-up.
if the opportunity presents itself, take the $300 and run!
also, get some of your unemployed friends to join as a prank
McDonald's isn't hiring. :naw:
As for taking the $300 and jamming with it... Thing is, half the time, you don't even get the 300 bucks.


i think you should go buy a credit watch service just in case they fuck with your identity
I'm not too worried. I have debts and my credit is fucked as it is already. I've always said that if somebody wants to steal my identity, they can have it. lol

Funny, I went to a similar place a few months back. I was hurting to much for money, but FUCK THAT PLACE TO HELL.

....

Biggest waste of time EVER. Oh god, I implore you guys to spread the word about Kirby and their bullshit scam.

Kyle, lets just fucking sell drugs.
No need to really spread the word... Most everybody knows about them already, hence why they don't reveal that they're Kirby til the orientation. They rely on getting people in there and sweet talking them into not believing the bad things people say about the job or the company.


Drugs are bad, mm'kay? :keke:


that sucks kyle. see you should have hooked up with the receptionist.

Turns out, the receptionist was the recruiter. And she was wearing an outfit today that didn't hide her nastiness like the one she wore on Monday did... I wouldn't fuck that chick with YOUR dick. lol

dude they waste your time!!! money is important to me, so wasting my gas on a stupid job interview that has no potential is just bad. lol
Yeah, that's pretty much the basis of my anger. lol... The place is about 30 miles from me, so I wasted 120 miles worth of gas on those assholes.

[GSXRJJordan]

Let me preface this by saying, I'm licensed to sell health/life/disability/long term care insurance in CA - I got a hit on Monster, went to the interview, bunch of really straight-up, somewhat young (about 30 was avg age), all driving $200k+ cars dudes in there, talking about how messed up the health insurance industry is, and how they offer more customized coverage, usually cheaper, with the best customer service.

$60k/$80k/$120k first, second, third year averages for people that do it full time.

So I got my license (cost me some time and money), and then got my old salaried/full time/benefits job back (took it for "security" at the time lol), and haven't gone back to insurance - but there are legit jobs like that around... and some of them do pay, but not for everyone.

sounds just like CUTCO knives. i did the same exact thing you did. showed up the first day, then said this is bullshit then took absence on the second day of orientation.

My older brother sold Cutco knives through college - it's not bad, they're great knives - just hit up your family and word of mouth keeps the orders rolling in.

Yeah, that's pretty much the basis of my anger. lol... The place is about 30 miles from me, so I wasted 120 miles worth of gas on those assholes.

Yup, that's some bullshit.

[HalveBlue]

Hahaha. Been there, done that.

My experience happened about 8 or 9 years ago back in Salt Lake City (which has a terrible job market, by the way).

I remember it like it was yesterday.


====================INSERT FLASHBACK BLUR=======================


At the time, me and my buddy were working for a company called ADP (huge outsourcing agency) which had this contract with Honeywell to allow their employees to call in and change their health insurance policy during a 6 week window. At first we were told that some of us would have our contract with ADP extended if we did well. Soon enough it became pretty obvious that all of us would be "let go" regardless of how well we performed.


So, a couple of days after me and my buddy are "let go", we start checking the newspaper for job offers. After scouring over the typical job offers in the classifieds, my buddy points to this one ad:


Do you have what it takes? Are you motivated?
$2,000/week plus bonuses and incentives.
No experience necessary.

CALL NOW!"


A wise man once said: If something seems to good to be true, it probably is.

Unfortunately, the first thing that comes out of my buddy's mouth is, "Awesome! Let's check it out." :rolleyes:

Screw it. I'll check it out. Shits and giggles and all that jazz.

So, my buddy calls the number in the ad and we're told to come to such and such address at such and such time.

Cool.

We show up at some dingy office located in one of the myriad of light industrial/warehouse sections that run parallel to I-15 in Salt Lake. We walk in the door and are greeted by a lone secretary sitting behind this cheap ass desk. I look around the place and notice that whatever company this is, they haven't been here long. The place is obviously rented and there isn't a single sign with the company's name on it. We introduce ourselves and are told to fill out an application.

I ask the secretary, "So what does the job entail?"

She hesitates for a second, "Well, my boss prefers to discuss that with the individual applicants himself. But he's not here right now."

At this point she's basically just confirming what I knew already anyway; SCAM!

Of course, my buddy, broke and...simple...as he is, responds with, "Sounds good. When do you think he'll contact us?"

Secretary: "We place a really heavy emphasis on motivation in this company"

"I'll pass your applications along to my boss for review. Call back after 3 p.m. and I'll let you know if he wants to invite you in for another interview."

(Okay...:squint:)

We leave, get something to eat, and call back around 3 p.m. We're told that "the boss" has reviewed our applications and has invited us to come back for another interview the next day at 8 a.m.


The next morning, at 7:45 sharp, me and my buddy show up for "the interview". We're led to a larger room in the back where about 40 other people have already been seated. After a couple of minutes "the boss" enters the room.

This guy is somewhere around 5' 6", in his mid-20's, wearing a suit that's a size too big, and obviously forgot his daily dose of Ritalin.

The first thing that comes out of his mouth is, "Good morning, guys!!!!!!! My name's Rick and I only have one question for you. Who here wants to make money?!!!!!!!!"

And so start 6 hours of complete and utter bullshit. :Owned:

Six hours of the same old, "You can make so much money in this job, guys! But it's all up to you and how motivated you are?"

"Who wants to make money?"


My favorite part was when he started talking about the bonuses and incentives.

"Let me tell you, guys I just started working for this company about a year ago and I'm already a regional manager."

"You can make so much money with this job, guys. Plus, we have some really great bonuses. Just last week I was invited to a company dinner by the owner, and let me tell you guys, he comes up to me and he says, Rick, you've been doing a fantastic job. I want you to have this..."

He pauses, get's this really serious look on his face, and says,

"Guys, you won't believe this, but he gave me this huge ring. It was such an honor."

Okay, so at this point I'm about to lose it.

The only thing that's going through my head is: Are you fucking serious? A ring? A fucking ring? What kind of fucking bonus is that? That's retarded. What kind of Mickey Mouse operation is this?

The funny thing is, about 5 1/2 hours into this little spiel, this guy actually explains what this "awesome" job is all about.

Fragrances.

That's right folks, perfume and cologne. But not just any perfume. No, no, no. Knock-off perfume.

But it smells just like the real stuff. Promise! :rolleyes:

And because it smells just like the expensive stuff, but sells for much, much less (well, not that much less) it'll sell itself.

And because it sells itself. You won't with have a problem with buying the product (by the case) from the company.

"Trust me, guys. Before you know, you'll be a district manager with half a dozen employees of your own."

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

So after 6 hours of what amounts to the longest, most gimmicky, hyperactive sales pitch I have every heard he finishes with this:

"All right, guys, after everything I've told you, the only thing I need to know is: Do you want to make money?"

"I'm going to go around and ask every singly person here if you want to make money. If you do, I want you to stand up and say 'Rick, I want to make money!'."

"If you don't, I want you to say, 'I'm not motivated enough,' and leave the room."

Eventually, he gets to me and my friend. At this point, I'm just ready to get the fuck out of there. Lo and behold, right as I'm about to get up to leave...

"Rick, I want to make money!"

You have got to be shitting me. :duh:

I look at my friend and just give him this "you fucking moron, are you serious" look.

About a week later my buddy comes up to me, "Ugh! I'm such a fucking idiot."

Me: "I know. What happened, dude?"

Turns out, he had to shell out a couple hundred bucks of his own money to buy cases of this shitty perfume to sell down in Arizona. Had to use his own car and gas to get down there, too.

But it gets even better.

He got a speeding ticket on his way down to AZ and only sold 3 bottles of perfume.

Grand total for this fun: $500+. :Owned:

Just goes to prove the point: If something seems to good to be true...it probably is.


==================THE END===================

Cliffs: Me and a friend look for a job. Buddy is a moron and let's himself get talked into selling knock-off perfume for a pyramid scheme company. He ends up with negative $500, a speeding ticket, and a couple of cases of knock-off perfume.

[soreballz]

^Bwahahahahaha. Your friend is a tard! lol

[GSXRJJordan]

^^^ definitely... good story though.

[TheWolf]

my brother in law did the cutco thing. it's great except no one will ever give you 10 references to their friends and thus your 4 or 5 sales leads dry up and your game is over.. that and they want to pay your commission on a 30day net "just in case the customer isn't happy". Base pay is paid only on appointment basis. Meaning you have to drive to every apointment possible to get base pay. The base pay barely paid for his gas when it was $1.75 a gallon. If you manage to hang around like my brother in law for more than 45 days. Then there is "REQUIRED" training to attend about every 30 days after. This training is FREE. It's just in a different city. Like a city that's 3 hours away. Think about that. They're giving you the best new sales pitches for FREE and a FREE lunch because your such a value to the company. They don't however give you free gas to get to this required training. Nor free drinks. Everyone loves a free jiffy mart sandwich in an area with only $4 cans of coke and a $3 bag of chips. Nothing like getting up at 5am to drive 3 hours to listen to another crack addicted Master seller that resells you on why you got suckered in originally getting DONE at 6pm. 8-6 of that bullshit and driving 3 hours to get back. Good news is.. next months is in lake city only 2 hours away... after it was said and done.

He put alot of miles on his truck. Alienated every family and friend he had with his incessant pawing of how your kitchen knives suck and his are that much better... and he made $2 per hour after paying for his gas.. assuming car/insurance was free

[LeftNutOfGowd]

Thanks for the read I didn't get my morning paper this morning lol

[Gnnr]

Beware of scammers

Now that many people are looking for jobs identity thieves and scammers are out there looking to prey on the weak. Careful giving out your Social Security # and bank account number for "direct deposit pay".

[enkei2k]

haha i did something like that too...health insurance, way back when in 2004, i was desperate. you had to shell out 200 to take the classes, which lasted forever and pay an extra 60 to take the test to get licensed to sell the insurance. if you fail the test, pay an extra 60 to re-take it. then you get to go out and sell the insurance, this company shall not be named, but it is a part of citi. and we all see how well citi is doing at this moment.

[aziankingz]

lol the good ol pyramid..

[RaceBred 17]

Raise your hand if you ever where a door to door meat salesman. No I dont mean a man whore, actualy selling these cases of meat for 300.$.The first day the supposed owner took me out and "trained" me.He basiclly punked people into buying the meat and in one case he walked into there house and started to pack this shit into there freezer. We then went to his "friends" house where he picked up a baggie of weed. Then went to this barber shop that was filled with some gangsta type thugs who were all watching porn and smoking weed.While there the tried to get me to smoke out with them and when I refused they escorted me outside. The guy who took me there stayed in there for an hour or so.Then he said it was my turn to try and sell a case of meat.I took him to the house of this pro BMXer where I got him to buy a case for 250.$ When we get back to the "warhouse",a garage with a bunch of freezers he said that that was not bad for a first day. He then handed me nine dollars and said that was my commision of the meat after "truck rental".(11 dollars to use the truck).While I was leaving this operation the owner or the guy who took me out there was arguing with some guys who didnt sell any thing about the truck rental fee.If you dont sell anything you still had to pay the truck fee. Those guys paid him 11 dollars out there pocket, so they actually paid that guy to go to work. Needless to say I didnt show up on the second day.

[slider2828]

Dude there is so much bs out there...

Lets see,

Nu-Skin now some other bs company
World Financial Group (WFG) = So bs too
Amway = Total BS
The company on TV with Abraham cunningham dude from Happy Days, The warehouse merchandise thing = BS. Dumping Chinese crap on the US and I am chinese!!!
The computer stock trading thing on TV which tells you which ones go up and down after the software goes bla bla bla, so bs too....

Just watch out.... Its sad and it sucks.... But you know I'd say if it don't cost you money try it. I know for fact WFG says get this insurance license then bla bla... Don't do it... or don't pay for anything up front in these companys..... lol

[RaceBred 17]

You guys ever heard of primemerica.

[GSXRJJordan]

Haha yeah Primerica wasn't the worst though - at least there's a product being offered that people would want! Everyone can use some type of debt consolidation.

But yeah it's totally a pyramid structure, which makes me suspicious to begin with.

I worked a pyramid (or "multilevel marketing" lol) gig back in college @ UC Irvine, called The Free Network - a guy came into the Best Buy where I was working, let me sell him a $2k vid camera, then paid and chatted with me about 'life' - then he asked me to meet up with a few people from his 'group' to see if this seemed like a good idea... anyway, they sell nutritional supplements (unregulated market = teh win for them), shakes, energy bars, etc... shit looked OK, until I saw that everyone was just peddling this shit to their family and friends.

Multilevel marketing sucks.

[ALTRNTV]

You guys ever heard of primemerica.
I was suckered into one of their "meetings" and I signed up. This was about 4 years ago. They gave the typical "work for yourself" and "be your own boss" spiel. There was a $199 set-up fee to start, but that came with 3 insurance licenses. I got my car insurance license and health insurance license from them, and made about $3000 in 3 months working part time, but it was too much work, and I had school to worry about. I wouldn't recommend them since they are a MLM scheme, but I did make some money.

[soreballz]

So I was just on Craigslist, and I decided to search for the number the Kirby people listed in the ad... It turned up five different ads, all with different contact names, and none of the people that work there go by any of these names... Tammy, Sherry, Mary, Terry, and Jerry are the contact names they gave.

Now Hiring!!!! (http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/csr/1038399754.html)
Customer Service Reps Needed (http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/csr/1042740868.html)
Distribution Company now Hiring!! (http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/csr/1046925930.html)
Sales Reps/Customer Service (http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/sls/1058343992.html)
Customer Service Reps Needed (http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/csr/1059018271.html)

Not a single damn one of those ads is honest. Bunch of fucking assholes.

[ESmorz]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y36/AvrilH8er13/molotov.jpg

[soreballz]

^lol
Yeah, pretty much.

[HyperTek]

i just got this email lol
We are seeking to fill the position of "Sales Representative" in our Riverside County office. After reviewing your resume online, I see that you contain some of the necessary qualifications to be a candidate for a position with us.

The next step in this process will be to conduct interviews this week at our office in Murrieta. The purpose of this interview and orientation will be to get into more specific details such as compensation, company leads, training, products, and any other questions you may have.

We have 2 interview times available:
Tuesday March 10th @ 10 AM or
Tuesday March 10th @ 1:30 PM.

Please email me at [email protected] at your earliest convenience to schedule an interview.

Sincerely,

Pam Hilgesen
Representing HealthMarkets
41880 Kalmia St. Ste. 140
Murrieta, CA 92562
951-894-1805

SALES REPRESENTATIVE / SALES LEADER DESCRIPTION:
-Immediate Weekly Income Potential
-Call on prospects that have requested to see you
-Multi Media Leads Provided
-Professional and ongoing Training
-Prestigious Products and Services
-Personal Sales and Leadership Development
-Advancement Opportunities
-Company Sponsored Stock Ownership Program
-Bonus Programs and Trips
-Annual first year potential is between $75,000 - $100,000

For More Information on our company please click the links below:
Are You One of a Kind? :: Home (http://jhilgesen.mw-career.com/nrecruiting/default.asp)
Alliance For Affordable Services (http://www.affordableservices.org)

[GSXRJJordan]

Health Markets is health/life/disabillity/long term care insurance - the guys I was working with were part of their network.

I can't speak to how legit the group you'd meet would be, but at least the product is good.

[Touge Noob S13]

Anyone here ever hear about "Royal Prestiage" I find it so sad how this company preys on Hispanic people to buy their overpriced pots and pans. My family has a Kirby Vacuum, but they didnt pay the amount of money you guys say. The Kirby people reduced the price so much because my parents would low ball them to the point of insanity.

[1ZlowZ]

My parents screwed over the people that sold her a kirby... She only paid one month which was like 100$ She said she wasn't paying anything more until they replaced that one which she broke sucking up some of my guitar strings... Anyways they replaced it and they kept on bothering her about collections and stuff. Some guys even offered to lend her the full amount under a notary contract thing... I don't think they can make you pay for the Kirby... Anyways 6 months later no more phone calls no collection agency calling and still have the Kirby... For 100$!

[HyperTek]

My parents screwed over the people that sold her a kirby... She only paid one month which was like 100$ She said she wasn't paying anything more until they replaced that one which she broke sucking up some of my guitar strings... Anyways they replaced it and they kept on bothering her about collections and stuff. Some guys even offered to lend her the full amount under a notary contract thing... I don't think they can make you pay for the Kirby... Anyways 6 months later no more phone calls no collection agency calling and still have the Kirby... For 100$!

its not good to bluff with collection agencies and expect them not to affect her credit

[1ZlowZ]

I doesn't matter anymore we lost the house so her credit is screwed for the next 7-10 years now.

[HyperTek]

sweet



lol

[BRAIN_Z33]

wow reading this took me back a couple of years ago, when my bestfriend got dooped into kirby and talked me into starting with his smartass out of my $10/hr job at the time.

promises promises promises....

oh ya weekly income, bonus cash, 5k a week! lol gosh i was soooooooooo stupid.

and i actually stood there for a week! first 2 days were "in-the-field-training". The first day in the field i actually sold 2 my first day :goyou:

lol and to top it off, i sold one two a lady with 1 arm (knowing how heavy the damn thing is), and the second to a really elderly couple hahaha. Gosh did i feel like a "Hustler" at the moment, thinking i was gonna get my $300 and my BONUS!!! But damn i felt bad that night i went home knowing i just screwed some folks over for an almost 2k vacuum!

well ya the next 2-3 days i didnt sell shit lol. got my 1st paycheck and it was $97. :Owned:

I grabbed my check from the manager and gave him the "look", and told him i wasnt coming back.


FUCK IT TO HELL :2c:

[cc4usmc]

woot woot, job interview tomorrow for Rite Aid loss prevention :jerkit::jerkit::jerkit:

Oh well, it's something.

[Shaminii]

CL is full of fucked up shit. I'll share my story when I get home from work.

[!Zar!]

I know a guy who is trying to do the Kirby vacuum thing.

I'm just going to watch and see what happens.

I remember when Usana tried to get me to join their cult.

[ALTRNTV]

Another big company down in the SoCal area is ACN Communications, beware of them.

[SochBAT]

God i hate USANA.

Stupid Pyramid Leader and their scripts.

[SunAutomobile]

wow................

[WISH ONE]

Oh yeah ACN lol, I actually met some of the guys that work for that company. I was talking to this girl for while after like a month or so I found out she had a boyfriend, and her boyfriend worked for acn. Then she tried to haggle me in joining. Never talked to her again.

I had an interview at cutco also, I was sick and tired of nissan at the time and in desperation I went, sat through whole interview and then got called into some fat asian girls office, where she began asking me more questions and then eventually offered me the job and I told her no thanks.
LAME!!!

On my second attempt to leave nissan I went to some interview that was labeled a "Marketing Job", which turned out to be door to door sales for verizon. I passed the first interview and then returned a few days later for the second one. The second interview was an on the job orientation/shadow day. They paired you up with another existing sales person and you drove around aimlessly pestering people in their palce of business. The stupid girl that i got paired up with was disgusting. She was more pale than snow, spoke in a hispanic english accent and had these fake eyelashes an inch long that were coming off one of her eyes. So we drove around long beach in her yaris and she was on her phone trying text and doing her make up while we were weaving in n out of lanes and on the verge of dying. After a few failed attempts of her trying to sell to some of the local businesses we stopped at a rite aid so she could get make up glue and paste her eyelash back on her eye. So then the trip continued and at our next stop i decided i had enough,so i called a friend to vent, so happens he was in the area picking up tires and i asked him to come and rescue me. So i asked the girl for her keys because i wanted to get my Juice(belongings) out of her car. I stepped out of the business we were in, went to the car, got my sh!t and went back in to hand her her keys and told her i was going to be outside waiting... and like magic I was gone!

[hunter8411]

Hell I actually worked for Cutco for 2 months. I made about $800 in the 2 months barely doing any work at all, I hated that you had to sell to friends/family and get your contacts from them so I just quit.

However, I still have the Cutco knives and they are the shit, they cut almost anything. I love them, but they are expensive.

[singlecamslam]

Haha went to an orientation just like this. It was a nice building and people wearing suits so i thought "cool" Than they started telling us how to sell knives and going from door to door and i said screw it. That shit is so retarded, its such a scam.

[flip3d]

So the application was very basic and had no company information on it and the people who gave it to you were shady looking? Why would you even fill it out? Sounds like identity theft waiting to happen to me.

[soreballz]

^I'm a tard, and desperate for a job. lol
The people working there didn't LOOK shady... The job itself was. lol

In all the stories I've been reading lately from former Kirby employees, identity theft hasn't been an issue. They just don't pay the way they promise to. Either way, FUCK THEM.

[cc4usmc]

Well, I got the job at Rite Aid. It's full time, I get to write my own schedule, don't have to shave or wear a uniform, and I get to keep my earrings in. I keep forgetting to ask how much it pays though lol, probably at least $10 hr. I don't know how it is down in SoCal, but since a lot of you bastards live down there, check out your local lame ass Rite Aid.

[bboyswoosh87]

Dam I've been scammerd so many times from my so called friends to go to these job offers. I'm already broke and these companys want people to pay for their classes thats just effin retarded. The best job is the one that pays you weekly with a steady pay check not the one's that pay you by comission. This is just my opinion.

I hate these companys they scam people for their money there is nothing better then having a secure career like in Health care there are so many jobs out there with a declining economy, yet there are no people applying because its hard but the the truth is life is hard and you have to deal with it.

[!Zar!]

Dude there is so much bs out there...

Lets see,

Nu-Skin now some other bs company
World Financial Group (WFG) = So bs too
Amway = Total BS
The company on TV with Abraham cunningham dude from Happy Days, The warehouse merchandise thing = BS. Dumping Chinese crap on the US and I am chinese!!!
The computer stock trading thing on TV which tells you which ones go up and down after the software goes bla bla bla, so bs too....

Just watch out.... Its sad and it sucks.... But you know I'd say if it don't cost you money try it. I know for fact WFG says get this insurance license then bla bla... Don't do it... or don't pay for anything up front in these companys..... lol

Hahaha. I just stopped by a WFG thing too.

[PRADOgy]

hahahaha.... OMG this is great.

why because i myself went.. the lady was blond and thick and i only sat through the demonstration because i seen my self doing her.





I specifically asked if there were sales involved because i didnt want it to turn out to be exactly what it was.



well in the damn orientation they state, your manager sells them. You will not have to sell them because they sell themselves

[soreballz]

^lol. They're slick, huh?

Which location did you go to?

[Fender Defender]

Pyramid scheme, it's like ants. worker ants work hella hard, get little to none and get nowhere, and the queen ant gets mostly everything and gives a big eff you to everyone else. @swooosh-eff yeh. A stupid fukker made my exfriend quit his job for that and in the end I'm sure he's gonna get effed over and he's not even financially stable, but it doesnt even matter anymore cus he aint my friend no more since all he does is lie all the time and use people to his advantage so I guess USANA is the BEST profession for him.

[duffman1278]

Damn, brought back this thread from the dead.

[Fender Defender]

LOL yeh cus i see so many people just going all nuts over USANA first of all when they recruit u they promise 1 to 2k per week or month or whatever starting and the best excuse they have when u ask them how much they make is that they tell you how much theyll be making and then when u ask them when they started and how much they are making they just tell you that they are new in training and are at currently $10000 in theoretical future dollars lol.

[ArBy25DeT]

gotta love craigslist lmao....you can find some very good deals on there if your looking to buy something, but if your looking for a job or a girlfriend on craigslist, i would stay away lmao.....and for shits and giggles i went to the kirby website which is filled with all the bullshit the OP was talkin about

Become a Kirby Dealer or Distributor (http://www.kirby.com/Portals/0/kirby_opportunity.html)

....and thanks for that hilarious inside story, and lmao at all the cholos falling for this scam shit hahahahha

[Fender Defender]

lol haha u got that straight. but yeh sometime in their life they realize that they are only getting 1/1,000,000,000 of what they were promised and they quit. That's when u have the advantage of going, "I told you" lol. I'm not really trying to be hatin or anything but fuck mlm and pyramid schemes for fucking people over.

[h2v7]

i was in the EXACT same situation before but it was cut-co knife door to door

fuck that shit lame ass job fucks

after day 1 i figured it out fast and got outta there

[TougeLove]

i was in the EXACT same situation before but it was cut-co knife door to door

fuck that shit lame ass job fucks

after day 1 i figured it out fast and got outta there

i knew a guy that made a lot of money, he was good though.

thread jack
while were on the topic of scams


so i took a job selling newspaper subscriptions door to door. i was 16 and thought cool, its some money but it was all commission.

heres how it worked. you get $15 for selling a $5 subscription. i guess they made up the difference by advertisers based on subscribers.

so in my head i was thinking "if i paid everyone to subscribe i would only make $10 but it wouldnt cost anyone a dime." i was also delivering pizza at the time and took my $500 paycheck to the bank and cashed it in for...you guessed it, all $5 bills.

i gave everyone a $5 bill in exchange for their check for $5. so i made $10. not everyone went for it but i went from 100-200 a week to 500-1000. my boss didnt care at first but after a month or two he told me i had to stop. i slowed down to a consistent 500 a week until they told me i had to quit. :( quickest 6 grand i made in my life :D

oh and i use to register companies to deliver flyers on my skates (yes i was a fruit booter) but i would register like 5-10 at a time and deliver them all at once.
so 8 companies @ $50 for 1000 flyers = $400 in a few hours.

[mau5trap]

watch out, almost 95% of the job ad's on CL are pyramid scheme's.

[stinky_180]

I never knew of this kirby scam and how they only sell door to door. What is funny is that the vacuum cleaner in my hallway is a Kirby.... Family has had it since the 90s..

Sucks, you were that close to a having a 'job' lol!

[I LUV MY S13]

Goddamn marketing companies

[ManoNegra]

You guys should look into the manufacturing jobs section of CL.
A lot of good entry level jobs there that require little to no experience.

[BBSilvia]

hahaha i found the same shit on Craigslist but for selling vacs, Kirby vacs ($2500) said people made appts....no you knock door to door and try to get them by saying you will clean a room...so sneakkky haha