full race manifold won't clear outlet pipe

[Volchok]

Anyone familiar with installing a full-race pro stock T25 manifold? I got everything on a when I went to put on the outlet pipe that connects to the hot pipe, it hits the runner on the manifold. I tried using the clocking adapter for the t25/t28 turbo swap, cause I bought it but didn't need it with the greddy intake I bought. But that causes it to sit on a strange angle and still doesn't really clear. The only thing I can think of is getting about a 1" think piece of billet made to allow it to sit flush but still clear the mani runner.

Just hoping someone else has run into this before, I searched and found nothing.

[brian m]

Hey Shaun

You have a 2871 with the stock style inlet and outlet? Like this:
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_2043_45822612

And the hotpipe is hitting #1 runner?

Any Pics?

[Volchok]

my bad I should have been more clear, I was just posting quickly before eating dinner. I have a T28 turbo with stock inlet and outlet . here is a pic:
http://www.teahnshawn.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/outlet1.JPG
http://www.teahnshawn.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/outlet2.JPG
http://www.teahnshawn.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/outlet3.JPG

[hitman]

touge factory makes a spacer/turner guy, prolly check that out
also, your coolant line style sucks
i think you should move it somehow so it doesnt melt

[Volchok]

touge factory makes a spacer/turner guy, prolly check that out
also, your coolant line style sucks
i think you should move it somehow so it doesnt melt

i actually have a spacer this one:
http://us.st12.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/phase2motorsports_2043_30338406


doesnt give enough clearance. and the angle is wrong for the greddy outlet pipe. I am going to try with the stock one tomorrow. Was hoping i would run into someone who has had this problem.

the water line will go under the outlet pipe when attached.

[kensreliableb18b]

hmm, have you tried clocking the turbo a bit more? looks pretty maxed out but i'd try that. worst case scenario, you'd have to ditch the compressor outlet adapter piece and run the outlet pipe at the 45degree and mess with your hotpipe setup instead of having it point straight up and hit the runner.

[Volchok]

hmm, have you tried clocking the turbo a bit more? looks pretty maxed out but i'd try that. worst case scenario, you'd have to ditch the compressor outlet adapter piece and run the outlet pipe at the 45degree and mess with your hotpipe setup instead of having it point straight up and hit the runner.

do you mean turning the turbo compressor a bit? I was worried the oil return tube wouldnt match up anymore if i did that or do that rotate independently?

[kensreliableb18b]

do you mean turning the turbo compressor a bit? I was worried the oil return tube wouldnt match up anymore if i did that or do that rotate independently?

no, just the compressor side, independent of center--oil return position shouldn't be compensated.

[drifter_for_life06]

how does that outlet even attach? i see no mounting points?

either way, seems like custom made hotpipe/outlet is going to be your next step

[Volchok]

how does that outlet even attach? i see no mounting points?

either way, seems like custom made hotpipe/outlet is going to be your next step

three bolts at the corners, and I need to be running by the 14th.

[Z33dori]

yea looks like you just need to reclock the turbo some.

[Volchok]

u do that by loosening the bolts on the compressor housing? that wont cause the drain tube to not line up anymore>?

[ILoveJDM]

as stated before....

there are 3 pieces to a turbo.

you can rotate any of them, spin the compressor, spin the outlet, or loosen both ends and spin the middle.

sucks for you having to take that shit off again though.

you can also try with the stock compressor outlet with the adapter plate, if that clears but is clocked wrong, (should be in the stock s14/s15 t28 position now) switch the 90 degree coupler with the 45 on the hotpipe and cut some of it bov tube. thats how they do it in japan without clocking adapters.

[opponheimer]

have fun boiling that coolant...... and a full race manif. dedicated to a t25??? *vomits*

[Volchok]

have fun boiling that coolant...... and a full race manif. dedicated to a t25??? *vomits*

read much lately? or just no comprehension skills....its for a T28 and if you read any of the posts you would have seen this...

the water line will go under the outlet pipe when attached.

very constructive post...opponheimer i can tell you have good self esteem.

[ixfxi]

read much lately? or just no comprehension skills....its for a T28 and if you read any of the posts you would have seen this...


very constructive post...opponheimer i can tell you have good self esteem.

people are just hating because you have a badassed manifold and they have a broken down KA


hah

[opponheimer]

t25... t28.. both are babies

[Volchok]

people are just hating because you have a badassed manifold and they have a broken down KA


hah


LOL!!!! so true so true...

I love the T28 for the simple fact that I have complete stock internals and a stock headgasket...It runs great on 1.12 bar and has allowed me to be competitive with Pro Am Drift drivers. I will go bigger in time. Its funny how so many people throw huge turbos on and have been drifting for years and here I come with a T28 and 1 year experience and blow them away! :2f2f:
You can see my build here:
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/240970-my-1992-s13-drift-car-build-up.html#post2662258

[landins13]

clock your turbo and youll be good. it would be easist for you to pull the whole manifold, clock the turbo with the hotpipe outlet on so you can make sure your good. then reinstall

[krazycaron]

both are babies for what motor? an sr they are perfect for really no lag......for a full built 454 yea they are baby turbos.....on my ca18det......its actually kinda big! yea man i just put a t28 on my ca with a manifold...you have to undo the bolts (ill show you in pics) and spin the compressor a little until it doesnt hit....but you have to be careful because you still have the wastegate rod......

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a377/krazycaron628/Car%20Shit/TheNewLife124.jpg

[Volchok]

clock your turbo and youll be good. it would be easist for you to pull the whole manifold, clock the turbo with the hotpipe outlet on so you can make sure your good. then reinstall


constructive help thats what zilvia is all about! I am going to try this tonight. I should have tried to put the outlet pipe on prior to installing but it didn't occur to me that it would hit! I guess thats what happens when you do 6 hours of car work after a 10 hour work day! man real jobs suck...I wish someone would pay me to wrok on my car! LOL.

both are babies for what motor? an sr they are perfect for really no lag......for a full built 454 yea they are baby turbos.....on my ca18det......its actually kinda big! yea man i just put a t28 on my ca with a manifold...you have to undo the bolts (ill show you in pics) and spin the compressor a little until it doesnt hit....but you have to be careful because you still have the wastegate rod......



thats what I was concerned with, the actuator and also the intake but I will play with it.

thanks to all of you trying to be helpful~!!!!! Much appreciated.

[krazycaron]

you shouldnt have to move it alot....just like a half inch or so.......the intake wont really be affected......i was checkin out your build...nice cage....and since when did primm start having events? where is it at the hotel or something?

[ixfxi]

LOL!!!! so true so true...

I love the T28 for the simple fact that I have complete stock internals and a stock headgasket...It runs great on 1.12 bar and has allowed me to be competitive with Pro Am Drift drivers. I will go bigger in time. Its funny how so many people throw huge turbos on and have been drifting for years and here I come with a T28 and 1 year experience and blow them away! :2f2f:
You can see my build here:
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/240970-my-1992-s13-drift-car-build-up.html#post2662258


like i said, people are full of shit. they see something they cant afford, or a girl thats too fine and all they can do is hate.


i have an s15 spec-r turbo and love it, its all about response. you gotta remember that most people have NO clue how to drive, let alone setup their car properly. people buy coilovers and dont know how to cornerweight and adjust properly. the modify their motor and have no idea how to tune it properly. take apart their lights and then water gets in them...

there's botched work everywhere because people are too stupid to research, save, and plan ahead. this is why i never buy modified cars, most people have no idea what the fuck they are doing.


i plan on picking up a full race manifold, i like their products a lot.

[Volchok]

you shouldnt have to move it alot....just like a half inch or so.......the intake wont really be affected......i was checkin out your build...nice cage....and since when did primm start having events? where is it at the hotel or something?

Thanks, Forrest Wang from Full Race built the cage. Another reason I went with that manifold, as I also bought it from him. It is a VegasDrift organized event at Buffalo Bill's we rented the parking lot. Thats where the next VegasDrift is, it is a good venue Tommy Suell did an excellent job on the track layout. Here is a video link of my car in action with my "baby" T28 at the last event at LVMS and one from Primm, at prim i still had a T25.

Video:
Primm:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su7YsvZ3-lg&feature=channel_page
LVMS
http://vimeo.com/3376272

[opponheimer]

lol look at you getting all hurt for me calling your t28 small.... okay, you're right, that t28 is the best turbo in the world, you can't make good power and have quick response with any other turbo..

gt2871r and gt3076r aint got nothing on your T28!..... anything over 300hp for drifting is ludicrus!

but really if you're happy with a t28 stick with it, whatever suits you and your driving style right?

[Volchok]

lol look at you getting all hurt for me calling your t28 small.... okay, you're right, that t28 is the best turbo in the world, you can't make good power and have quick response with any other turbo..

gt2871r and gt3076r aint got nothing on your T28!..... anything over 300hp for drifting is ludicrus!

but really if you're happy with a t28 stick with it, whatever suits you and your driving style right?

I am amused far from hurt but again you fail at reading comprehension, I do want a bigger turbo, and will do so after I rebuild the engine as stated above. I am rebuilding the engine and getting a new turbo in about a year. I do one drift event a month and do my work accordingly, as to never miss an event. I should cut you a break you are form West Virgina after all... you prodably have a GT3076R on your horse and buggy

[opponheimer]

I only went to school in WVU, its hard for me to believe somone like you would be rebuilding an engine if you can't think to clock your turbo 10-15 degrees from the get go. Go ahead, flaunt your e-penis though, make fun of them west virginians mister insecure, over defensive thirty-three year old.

[Volchok]

LOL sounds like you are getting hurt I am making jokes, what else can you do when someone thread shits but laugh at it. I would never rebuild my engine myself, and I of course considered reclocking the turbo, as stated in the first post I was looking for someone who might have already expierienced this issue with the same setup, and might as well get as much insight as possible before fixing it.

[ixfxi]

lol look at you getting all hurt for me calling your t28 small.... okay, you're right, that t28 is the best turbo in the world, you can't make good power and have quick response with any other turbo..

gt2871r and gt3076r aint got nothing on your T28!..... anything over 300hp for drifting is ludicrus!

but really if you're happy with a t28 stick with it, whatever suits you and your driving style right?

what difference does it make?

a turbo is a turbo is a turbo, buy whatever you want.


some people like big tits, some medium, some small. me? its all good as long as they arent pancake titties.

[Volchok]

what difference does it make?

a turbo is a turbo is a turbo, buy whatever you want.


some people like big tits, some medium, some small. me? its all good as long as they arent pancake titties.


well put LOL

again I appreciate the insightful advice and laugh at the negativity...

[drifter_for_life06]

what difference does it make?

a turbo is a turbo is a turbo, buy whatever you want.


some people like big tits, some medium, some small. me? its all good as long as they arent pancake titties.
couldnt have said it better myself

[Volchok]

I actually think it depends an what the tits are attached to, really nice tits on couch for example would be useless, so I guess it could also depend on what motor the turbo is attached to , no reason to put a huge turbo a stock motor.

[krazycaron]

LMAO......isnt that what i had posted my first post....what motor is a t28 small for? my ca its almost to big a sr its perfect a full built 454 its to small for.....nice post about the tits on a couch......lmao....yea when is the primm event? i actually might try and make it out there and what part of buff bills is it in? in the back by the roller coaster? i used to race bmx there every year and my dad actually knows the owner of the casinos so im stoked to hear he is letting it happen there! when is the next one i deffinatly wanna bring my 180sx with the ca18 out there.....rep nor-cal a little bit.....lol j/k

[Kurai Shimo]

i find it ironic that the person doing all smack-talk is also the one that is saying:
blah blah blah, look at this guy flaunting his e-peen blah blah blah small turbo blah blah

but i agree with everyone else it doesn't matter what you have if you like it.
this type of retarded criticism is pointless.
its always easy to talk tough to some guy you haven't and will probably never meet...

[Volchok]

i find it ironic that the person doing all smack-talk is also the one that is saying:
blah blah blah, look at this guy flaunting his e-peen blah blah blah small turbo blah blah

but i agree with everyone else it doesn't matter what you have if you like it.
this type of retarded criticism is pointless.
its always easy to talk tough to some guy you haven't and will probably never meet...

whats up man, well said. BTW I will pick up all 4 z32 brakes from you 2nd week of April if you still have them.


so work from 8-6 but got out late and got home bout 7 started working on car. Pulled the mani again and re clocked it. I was really surprised but I was able to rotate it enough and still get the actuator to reach the waste gate. Luckily that little bend in it allowed me to twist it upside down and it reached the the waste gate. Put everything back on and it all fit! I was super stoked.

http://www.teahnshawn.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/PICT3497.JPG
http://www.teahnshawn.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/PICT3499.JPG

I tried to turn the compressor as much as possible and still get the actuator to reach so that the coupler wouldnt touch the manifold and just melt away, and surprisingly the intake still fit fine.

here everything is mocked up, still need to bolt the manifold all the way on and hook up everything else, power steering and intake and what not.
http://www.teahnshawn.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/PICT3498.JPG

http://www.teahnshawn.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/PICT3500.JPG

I tell ya though that manifold is a work of art!

and the new turbo elbow:
http://www.teahnshawn.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10002/PICT3502.JPG

at least I am 3" from turbo back now.

Thanks for those of you who gave positive advice. I always like to look to those who are more experienced, which most of you are, to guide me.

[kensreliableb18b]

awesome. glad it worked out for you.

[Volchok]

awesome. glad it worked out for you.


thank u your suggestions were very helpful.

[lhoy12]

Looking good! Is that an S14/S15 outlet pipe coming off the turbo? with my S15 turbo on S13 motor, I used an S13 outlet pipe. Instead of it facing straight up in the air, it comes down about 45* towards the front of the car, it may or may not have cleared that way and it would have required IC piping modification. Pics of what I'm talking about:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c201/lhoy12/SANY0127.jpg

[Z33dori]

so much blue.

glad it worked for yea.... that manifold is so fucking sexy

[waynehead05]

I like the blue, but you might be able to pull it off better with black couplers, black coated manifold, stuff like that. Whenever you change your setup again consider it.

[Volchok]

I like the blue, but you might be able to pull it off better with black couplers, black coated manifold, stuff like that. Whenever you change your setup again consider it.

The blue is patented "Volchok Blue", a trademark of my originality. Copyright infringement laws apply... to those who pick up the rattle can to imitate, my lawyer will be contacting you..How many others have you seen with the copious amounts of blue that I have? exactly...

yeah I am definitely going to black couplers! LOL I almost bought them two weeks ago but putting it off. I have a lot of mismatched blues and one purple coupler right now. Soon it will be all black couplers and all black braided lines. I just didn't have the money right now, just dropped $2500 on a 2007 KLX250 and $5k on taxes!!!

[ixfxi]

i can tell you one thing, when i get around to it i'll be picking up one of those prostreet manifolds and will have it coated. i've still got wayyyyyyyyyyyy too many things to address before i start worrying about that though. still working on restoring the undercarriage at the moment.

[waynehead05]

no issues there. THe black lines will look sweet also!

[MELLO*SOS]

Yeah looks good man you're gonna love it out at 626 and primm. I'm kinda jealous hahaha

Do you have a 2" 45 degree coupler laying around by any chance.. :)

[Volchok]

Yeah looks good man you're gonna love it out at 626 and primm. I'm kinda jealous hahaha

Do you have a 2" 45 degree coupler laying around by any chance.. :)

No man I am sorry I don't.