National Grammar Day is Today, 03/04

[Phlip]

No, I am not making this up.

In fact, here is a link:
National Grammar Day: Brought to you by the Society for the Promotion of Good Grammar (http://nationalgrammarday.com/)

Let us not pluralize words using apostrophes.

Let us capitalize the first word in sentences and offer proper punctuation at the end of them.

Let us PLEASE separate thoughts into coherent paragraphs and least try to properly spell words we use.

Avoid rap music.


For me, I would like to take this a little further, perhaps off into our spoken lives as well.
For instance, last month was February, and the r in that word is not silent.
The budget deficit is "huge," and the h in that word is NOT silent.
"Salmon" is good fucking fish, and the l in that word IS silent.

Did you guys know that people HONESTLY look at you different and more positively when you properly punctuate and spell, properly enunciate spoken language and you abandon the whole "it's just the iNtaRWebz, who karez?" aesthetic?

Think of it, look at this sentence:
"I am going to help my uncle jack off a horse."
and now:
"I am going to help my uncle, Jack, off a horse."

The difference that capitalization of proper nouns and use of proper punctuation is the difference between helping your uncle, named Jack, down from a tall animal and you becoming an accessory in bestiality.

You're REALLY doing this for yourselves, I promise.


Seriously, give it a try.


Can I please get this for at least one day?




Cross-posted this in my blog as well:
March 4 -- National Grammar Day (http://callmephlip.blogspot.com/2009/03/march-4-national-grammar-day.html)

[enkei2k]

I will give it a try. I do type pretty OK sometimes on this forum and online. Sometimes, I just forget to capitalize the first letter of a sentence. Shit man, I'm so tempted to intentionally mess this up for you.

Did I pass? Sorry, I haven't taken an English/grammar course in a few years.

[punxva]

I will try for you today Phlip.

Edit: That is all I've got.

[cc4usmc]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g11/cc4usmc3/2214610089_066320eb51.jpg

Hey Phlip, can you tell me what a Natzi is?

[ryguy]

In honor of Grammar Day the misuse of the word SALE should be a bannable offense. God, that is a pet peeve of mine.

[Phlip]

In honor of Grammar Day the misuse of the word SALE should be a bannable offense. God, that is a pet peeve of mine.

In my opinion, so should the use of "motor" in the place of "engine," but apparently that is an opinion that only I have around here.

[Enna]

I agree with you on that one Phlip. This is not going to go over well today, at all. Haha.

[azndoc]

I speak no engrish good, so you can go fuk off.

[drift freaq]

Think of it, look at this sentence:
"I am going to help my uncle jack off a horse."



[/URL]

:rofl: lol sorry phlip I could not resist. :rofl:

[SochBAT]

I've been trying to be a bit more affluent with my language, online and off.

Zilvia.net is the HOME to bad grammar, lack of punctuation, and overall lack of sense.

Some of the members on Zilvia just cram one entire paragraph into one sentence. Whenever I see those kinds of posts, I skip them. If they didn't take the time to properly format their questions, or thoughts, I'm not going to give them my time to try and decipher their innane banter.

Lets all make Grammar Nazi sigs!

[ronmcdon]

I don't mind attempting to use proper grammar in writing, but proper pronunciation and spelling (without spell-check) in English is difficult as hell for me. Opposed to say Spanish, there are way too many rules, exceptions, words taken directly from other languages. Every time I'm introduced to a new word in writing, I am likely to mispronounce it and vice-versa.

You also get a lot of inconsistencies among what's acceptable. Why the heck is it that ppl pronounce words like 'Caribbean' or 'details' differently (hate it when ppl say 'de-tails', instead of dee-tails), yet nobody frowns on it?

Why do Americans feel the need to change what worked for the British? I.e. Colour was not good enough for Americans, and had to be changed to 'Color'. Why did American feel the need to get rid of the word 'cheque' (as in pay-check), and use lump it into check? And if you feel the absolute need to modify what already works for no good reason, then at least have the courtesy to acknowledge as a different language entirely, or even as a separate dialect. Don't call it 'English' anymore if it really isn't. Adapting to American English from British English is frustrating.

As much as I enjoy English, there are a lot of grammatical rules I don't agree with.
I'm going to celebrate this day by reading 'Infinite Jest' to spite the language.

[karl wasabi]

So does this mean that we have to refrain from using LOL, LMAO, STFU, BTW, etc. OR, are acronyms OK to use? haha.

[drift freaq]

I don't mind attempting to use proper grammar in writing, but proper pronunciation and spelling (without spell-check) in English is difficult as hell for me. Opposed to say Spanish, there are way too many rules, exceptions, words taken directly from other languages. Every time I'm introduced to a new word in writing, I am likely to mispronounce it and vice-versa.

You also get a lot of inconsistencies among what's acceptable. Why the heck is it that ppl pronounce words like 'Caribbean' or 'details' differently (hate it when ppl say 'de-tails', instead of dee-tails), yet nobody frowns on it?

Why do Americans feel the need to change what worked for the British? I.e. Colour was not good enough for Americans, and had to be changed to 'Color'. Why did American feel the need to get rid of the word 'cheque' (as in pay-check), and use lump it into check? And if you feel the absolute need to modify what already works for no good reason, then at least have the courtesy to acknowledge as a different language entirely, or even as a separate dialect. Don't call it 'English' anymore if it really isn't. Adapting to American English from British English is frustrating.

As much as I enjoy English, there are a lot of grammatical rules I don't agree with.
I'm going to celebrate this day by reading 'Infinite Jest' to spite the language.

Actually, a lot of it has to do with geographical location. I.E. different parts of the country pronounce their English differently. If you take a trip to England you would actually see the same thing there.
There are different classes that speak an English you could barely understand, while as upper class pronounces very understandable verbiage.

It's actually like this in China, Japan and several other countries in the world. Some, more than others. China has a lot of it. My girl, comes from a part of Japan so traditional, that the Japanese they speak, is completely different from what is spoken in Tokyo.

In the end, people in general comment more about it, because its English and the English have to find a way to deride America in a playful manner. They love poking fun at the ex colonies and feel we are heathens culturally. 200 years is not long, compared to countries that have existed for around 1000 years.

[Phlip]

So does this mean that we have to refrain from using LOL, LMAO, STFU, BTW, etc. OR, are acronyms OK to use? haha.

While I have successfully shied away from all of them today, I would think it wouldn't kill you to type out "shut the fuck up" or "by the way," or perhaps find another way to say something was funny, if only for one day.

[SochBAT]

I agree with Phlip. Lets just make this everyday. Reading comprehension and proper English should be a standard for Zilvians. I believe it should be even more true for Premiem Members, including my penis! It is very premium indeed.

[Brian]

...and take computers away from those that should not own them.

[SoCal-s130]

This is Zilvia's favorite day.

[Dutchmalmiss]

I love good grammar. It helps me not have to reread a sentence more than once. A lot of my friends turn to me for proofreading their essays, which I do find flattering since I don't even promote my grammar skills (other than my sig, of course).

[SochBAT]

^^^

I am the same way. They want me to read their papers, but I have yet to come across any papers that really make me WANT to read it. Their chosen subjects are really flat, and often, they lack the drawing attention most papers have.

[ronmcdon]

Actually, a lot of it has to do with geographical location. I.E. different parts of the country pronounce their English differently. If you take a trip to England you would actually see the same thing there.
There are different classes that speak an English you could barely understand, while as upper class pronounces very understandable verbiage.

It's actually like this in China, Japan and several other countries in the world. Some, more than others. China has a lot of it. My girl, comes from a part of Japan so traditional, that the Japanese they speak, is completely different from what is spoken in Tokyo.

In the end, people in general comment more about it, because its English and the English have to find a way to deride America in a playful manner. They love poking fun at the ex colonies and feel we are heathens culturally. 200 years is not long, compared to countries that have existed for around 1000 years.

I think you're going to get differences dialect inevitably, based on geography and also cultural/social elements. Note how even where we live in socal, there are different dialects spoken (if it can be called that).

Yes, in London some speak the Queen's English, and some speak the cockney English. There is some other stuff I have trouble identifying, but I agree with you there.

I just wish ppl wouldn't be so critical of proper pronunciation if inevitably there isn't going to be much consistency in that area for dialectual reasons. It would be much easier on everyone to demand the use of proper pronunciation, if we can all agree to acknowledge & impose 1 official dialect.

In Asia, I think China actually did this when they recognized Mandarin as the official dialect, among the several in that country. China has had a much longer history than the US. With time, different dialects more or less evolved to be different languages entirely. They were fortunate in that the written language was at least consistent. The written Han language is also recognizable even by Japan and other neighboring countries by a certain extent. There's no way you can regulate proper pronunciation if things come to that.

[TiNMAN]

i is happy today

[cc4usmc]

I had some retard blame me for not being able to understand his gibberish.

[ESmorz]

I iz gould at, gramm4r stuf.

JDM air freshner for sell

[Phlip]

http://www.charleschillout.com/English_Motherfucker_Do_You_Speak_It.jpg

[ThatGuy]

While recently in the Hospital for my daughter's surgery, I found myself extremely close to choking a human being to death over their grammar. If you expect me to put my faith in your Medical Facility, your medicinal practitioners need to present themselves in as educated individuals.

When you tell me that my daughter will be fine because "they treat kids good", then I am likely to choke the life out of you.

The word is well.
You do things well.
You feel well.

Stop saying "good" if you're trying to prove to me that you have an education and I should allow you to operate on my daughter!

[trsilvias13]

I will give it a try. I do type pretty OK sometimes on this forum and online. Sometimes, I just forget to capitalize the first letter of a sentence. Shit man, I'm so tempted to intentionally mess this up for you.

Did I pass? Sorry, I haven't taken an English/grammar course in a few years.

OK is actually okay.

[ronmcdon]

I had some retard blame me for not being able to understand his gibberish.

gibberish is a high art
some of you might enjoy this gibberish generator;
Gibberish (http://thinkzone.wlonk.com/Gibber/Gibber.htm)

I translated your sentence into this;

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[Phlip]

Let us not forget, gentlefolk, the oft-ruined:

Look at those damned fools over there, they're going to lose their fucking fingers playing that that chainsaw.

You must be out of your mind if you think you're just gonna walk up and hit me without issue.

And don't forget to add another O on when your speaking about something "in addition to," too.

[ALTRNTV]

Everyday, to me, is National Grammar Day.

[SHIFT_*grind*]

Lets all make Grammar Nazi sigs!

<---I've had this av for a while.

And MAN. I didn't even know this day existed; I've been slacking.


JOO-WOOL-REE. Not JOO-LUH-REE.
REE-UHL-TOR. Not REE-LUH-TOR.

Do NOT, EVER, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, use the so-called "words" conversate or irregardless.

Your/You're. Their/There/They're. We all make mistakes, but please. At least try.

For the love of God, please don't mix up words like "can" and "can't." I see this all the time from every manner of Zilvia member we have here. "My rubber sex doll spontaneously combusted and blew up my car." "Man, that's insane! I can believe that!!!" RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH. When you fuck this up, you fuck it up big time, because you completely alter the meaning of your ENTIRE post.

And stop, please stop, the purposeful misspellings. It takes JUST as long to type the fucked up version, or pretty close to it. "I wuz tryna fix da dizzy on mah teggie an buzted mah nuckles, dat hurt like a beeyotch!" Posts like this are why I'm going gray at 26.

[TiNMAN]

http://www.charleschillout.com/English_Motherfucker_Do_You_Speak_It.jpg

LOL

Sorry, I had to. :keke:

[ALTRNTV]

Even on AIM or texts, I still use correct spelling and grammar. I'm anal about stuff like that.

[illvialuver]

How can people look at me when I use proper punctuation?

If someone reads something that I wrote, I am usually far away, like right now.

You are reading this and I am not in sight.

I think what you wanted to say is, "People will think of you as educated, and mature if you use proper punctuation."

Anyway, this reminds me of that movie Idiocracy.
The part when he first wakes up from his hibernation, and finds everyone is retarded and when he speaks using proper English, other people try to beat him up for talking like a *snip*.LOL


*USER PINKED 1 Month for use of Sexual/Racial Slur*

[cc4usmc]

Might wanna edit out the f word. Damn, who doesn't know that isn't tolerated by now? lol

[Phlip]

How can people look at me when I use proper punctuation?

If someone reads something that I wrote, I am usually far away, like right now.

You are reading this and I am not in sight.

Actually, I am looking at you as in the representation of you on a computer screen. Your screen name/avatar if you will.
Not to mention the contextual definition of "look," which could mean "to think of, or as dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/look?qsrc=2888)'s #6 definition:
to appear or seem to the mind: The case looks promising.
On the other hand, the rest of my point related to spoken language as well. Living down south, I often find myself looking at people like they're from another galaxy for their butchering of the language, as they do me for speaking it correctly.

[kingkilburn]

I don't mind attempting to use proper grammar in writing, but proper pronunciation and spelling (without spell-check) in English is difficult as hell for me. Opposed to say Spanish, there are way too many rules, exceptions, words taken directly from other languages. Every time I'm introduced to a new word in writing, I am likely to mispronounce it and vice-versa.

You also get a lot of inconsistencies among what's acceptable. Why the heck is it that ppl pronounce words like 'Caribbean' or 'details' differently (hate it when ppl say 'de-tails', instead of dee-tails), yet nobody frowns on it?

Why do Americans feel the need to change what worked for the British? I.e. Colour was not good enough for Americans, and had to be changed to 'Color'. Why did American feel the need to get rid of the word 'cheque' (as in pay-check), and use lump it into check? And if you feel the absolute need to modify what already works for no good reason, then at least have the courtesy to acknowledge as a different language entirely, or even as a separate dialect. Don't call it 'English' anymore if it really isn't. Adapting to American English from British English is frustrating.

As much as I enjoy English, there are a lot of grammatical rules I don't agree with.
I'm going to celebrate this day by reading 'Infinite Jest' to spite the language.

If you look at the dialects from England(mostly Ulster English) that most American English derives from we're not all that different. The spelling changes reflect the changes in pronunciation.

The only accents/dialects that bug me are the Boston accent and Wisconsin-whooper accent. You know, pahk the cah in the cah pahk or Wis-kan-son.

Some times I wonder what my accent sounds like to others. I've got the Cali dialect with a little bit of a southern drawl thrown in to keep you guessing.

[chrisa]

<---I've had this av for a while.

And MAN. I didn't even know this day existed; I've been slacking.


JOO-WOOL-REE. Not JOO-LUH-REE.
REE-UHL-TOR. Not REE-LUH-TOR.

Do NOT, EVER, under ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, use the so-called "words" conversate or irregardless.

Your/You're. Their/There/They're. We all make mistakes, but please. At least try.

For the love of God, please don't mix up words like "can" and "can't." I see this all the time from every manner of Zilvia member we have here. "My rubber sex doll spontaneously combusted and blew up my car." "Man, that's insane! I can believe that!!!" RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH. When you fuck this up, you fuck it up big time, because you completely alter the meaning of your ENTIRE post.

And stop, please stop, the purposeful misspellings. It takes JUST as long to type the fucked up version, or pretty close to it. "I wuz tryna fix da dizzy on mah teggie an buzted mah nuckles, dat hurt like a beeyotch!" Posts like this are why I'm going gray at 26.

Can you please clear this up for me, is "irregardless" actually a real word? I have a friend that says it so much and it literally makes me cringe.

[ALTRNTV]

Can you please clear this up for me, is "irregardless" actually a real word? I have a friend that says it so much and it literally makes me cringe.
Irregardless is a nonstandard word for regardless in most dictionaries.

[Future240]

I've been trying to be a bit more affluent with my language, online and off.

I have been attempting to do this as well. I have mainly concentrated on my spelling and the way I speak/type, however soon I will branch into other territories of improving my speech/type.

[allntrlundrgrnd]

I try to form somewhat coherent sentences. I definitely slack in the punctuation department though.

Something that really bugs me is the misuse of the word "literally."

example: Can you please clear this up for me, is "irregardless" actually a real word? I have a friend that says it so much and it literally makes me cringe.

I highly doubt you actually make this face when you hear him say that.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:eJCQtSSQGhPXpM:http://www.dailymantra.com/headache.jpg

Although this is a rather tame example, I see it in nearly every thread. "I literally died laughing."

No, no you did not, or your post would not have been made.

[ALTRNTV]

Adding literally adds emphasis to whatever statement you're trying to make, even when sometimes it
does sound absurd or over the top.

[allntrlundrgrnd]

lit⋅er⋅al⋅ly

  http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/audio.html/lunaWAV/L02/L0299100)  /ˈlɪthttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngərhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngəhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngli/ http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html) Show Spelled Pronunciation [lit-er-uh-lee] http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html) Show IPA –adverb 1. in the literal or strict sense: What does the word mean literally? 2. in a literal manner; word for word: to translate literally. 3. actually; without exaggeration or inaccuracy: The city was literally destroyed. 4. in effect; in substance; very nearly; virtually.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/literally?qsrc=2888

[ALTRNTV]

I never use that word, but from that definition, I'm completely off. :keke:

[mRclARK1]

happy gramar day 2 u 2 every1!!!

:keke:

[chrisa]

lit⋅er⋅al⋅ly

  http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/audio.html/lunaWAV/L02/L0299100)  /ˈlɪthttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngərhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngəhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.pngli/ http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html) Show Spelled Pronunciation [lit-er-uh-lee] http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_questionbutton_default.gif (http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html) Show IPA –adverb 1. in the literal or strict sense: What does the word mean literally? 2. in a literal manner; word for word: to translate literally. 3. actually; without exaggeration or inaccuracy: The city was literally destroyed. 4. in effect; in substance; very nearly; virtually.


literally definition | Dictionary.com (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/literally?qsrc=2888)

Like that definition says, without exaggeration i DO cringe. Then we get into an argument over his use of that word.

[Matej]

Just use spell check.
http://www.arturogoga.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/letters1.jpg

[ESmorz]

I try to form somewhat coherent sentences. I definitely slack in the punctuation department though.

Something that really bugs me is the misuse of the word "literally."

example:

I highly doubt you actually make this face when you hear him say that.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:eJCQtSSQGhPXpM:http://www.dailymantra.com/headache.jpg

Although this is a rather tame example, I see it in nearly every thread. "I literally died laughing."

No, no you did not, or your post would not have been made.

Ok Dane Cook.

[Matej]

Bear breast.

[murda-c]

In my opinion, so should the use of "motor" in the place of "engine," but apparently that is an opinion that only I have around here.

Good thing NOBODY hear has electric cars and a gas engine is a type of motor then...

Can you find my mistakes in this post? lol

[Matej]

Enginesports.

[allntrlundrgrnd]

Ok Dane Cook.

If you said that to me in real life I may have actually tried to fight you.

I absolutely loathe Dane Cook. Hes the most overrated comedian in history.

Literally.

:tardrim:

[ESmorz]

If you said that to me in real life I may have actually tried to fight you.

I absolutely loathe Dane Cook. Hes the most overrated comedian in history.

Literally.

:tardrim:

Then I would give you a high five for sharing the same disposition towards him as I do.

:wiggle:

[fromxtor]

Good thing NOBODY hear has electric cars and a gas engine is a type of motor then...

Can you find my mistake in this post? lol.


Way to mess it up. :bigok:

[CrashQueen]

Web talking is generally informal, and the people we communicate with on certain websites are usually around the same age group. I think that most people type like they don't give a damn because they assume that people around their own age group would understand their slang. Most of the time though, it's really just a case of laziness.

I agree that the correct usage of punctuation and grammar affects how a person is viewed on levels of intelligence, yet I disagree that improper usage should deem one as any less of an intellect. There are people in my life who are among the smartest people I know yet grew up in households that could not afford to provide them with proper amounts of education, grew up in another country, or were never read to as little children. Their use of punctuation and grammar is butchered from time to time simply because they do not know the rules that were so well taught to others, especially to those who grew up in America.

My mother and father have lived in this country for over 25 years now, and still cannot decipher between certain past and present tenses, mispronounce and misspell certain words while all the while, chuckling at their mistakes with a hint of embarrassment. I don't feel that they should be embarrassed and should be looked down as any less intelligent. I agree that everyone who comes into America should know the English language in order to communicate, yet I don't think that it is right to be so hard on those who do not learn to speak English as their primary language. For them, it is easy and common to make punctuation and grammatical errors.

It really just depends. You would expect more from a person who grew up well educated, as opposed to a person who grew up in a poor uneducated family and you would expect more from a person who learned English as a primary language, as opposed to a person who learned it as their secondary.

One who knows better yet types or speaks like punctuation and grammar do not exist, is simply lazy.


*** On another note, did anyone know that yesterday was square root day? 3-9-09 ---> 3*3=9 haha

[ThatGuy]

I don't really think anyone is complaining about those individuals who did not have English as their first language. There are exceptions.

However, I have yet to run into any language that would lead to "HeY gUyZ sumthin is rong wit my cAr it makez strenge noizes wen I tern da kEy Wut iz rong?"

That is nothing but ignorance and laziness.

[CrashQueen]

^^^^ Oh definitely. That is ignorance and laziness. Those people should be shot.


haha just joking


I did not intend to come off completely defensive for those who do not primarily speak the English language. Rather, I was stating not to hold punctuation and grammar as the basis of determining intelligence because it is not always the case. With that aside, even a boy who grows up poor with a lack of education than most, can still grow up to be an intelligent man even if he does not use the correct form of there, their, and they're. You would just expect that for those that do know the rules of proper punctuation and grammar, that they would abide to them.

[allntrlundrgrnd]

Then I would give you a high five for sharing the same disposition towards him as I do.

:wiggle:

http://cdn.holytaco.com/www/sites/default/files/photo/a2/7081/Most-Badass-Picture-World-Its-Not-Subjective-It_500x500.jpg

[90hatchie]

! likems some sourkroutz with all pickle::::

[SHIFT_*grind*]

Ok Dane Cook.

If you said that to me in real life I may have actually tried to fight you.

I absolutely loathe Dane Cook. Hes the most overrated comedian in history.

David Cross did it first =P

"Dude, it was so funny, I LITERALLY shit my pants." "Wow. What'd you do?" "Ahhh dude, it was just funny!" "I mean, what'd you do with your pants?" "Dude what are you talking about?" "What did you do with your shitty pants?" "No man, I didn't really shit my pants, I LITERALLY shit my pants. You don't understand."