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zaquanh
03-02-2009, 07:35 PM
anyone used there stuff with modded knuckles ? so far ive only found circuit sports tie rods dont allow for tie rod spacers

but what about s14 inners with spacers and circuit sport outers?



http://www.circuit-sports.com/product_thumb.php?img=prodImages/product_79.jpg&w=600&h=450
http://www.circuit-sports.com/product_thumb.php?img=prodImages/product_86.jpg&w=600&h=450


ps this is not a thread about spl , or other brands , just circuit sports

Dousan_PG
03-02-2009, 07:51 PM
Should be ok with the s14 inners but younare probably the first to use hose shifty ends with knuckles


..........spl!!!

McRussellPants
03-02-2009, 08:05 PM
Should be ok with the s14 inners but younare probably the first to use hose shifty ends with knuckles


..........spl!!!

yeah, seriously.

Gotta get the beefcake stuff if you're gonna run it like that.

SPL PARTS (http://www.SPLparts.com)

tried and true. Kuah knows how to make it work.

racepar1
03-02-2009, 08:11 PM
Actually guys the circuit sports arms that I have personally seen looked quite good. The bearings even looked nice. The bearings on the tie rod ends in the pics look pretty good to me, but without seeing them first hand I couldn't say for sure. The thing that is much better about the SPL's is the shanks. SPL's shanks are much beefier and allow for more spacing of the tie rod pivot point.

zaquanh
03-02-2009, 08:17 PM
haha more than likely i will end up with spl but i want to way my options lol i like circuit sports , and im sponsored by them and wouldnt mind running them execpt the fact they cant even support spacers , we just put there tie rods on a friends car and i run there ruca's ,

just a quick question does spl outters thread directly in s14 inners , ifso thats the route ill prolly go with lol

on there site it says they thread into tein inners , and tein inners are the same as oem inners if im not mistaken

racepar1
03-02-2009, 08:19 PM
haha more than likely i will end up with spl but i want to way my options lol i like circuit sports , we just put there tie rods on a friends car and i run there ruca's ,

just a quick question does spl outs thread directly in s14 inners , ifso thats the route ill prolly go with lol

on there site it says they thread into tein inners , and tein inners are the same as oem inners if im not mistaken

The SPL outers use z-32 or tein z-33 inner tie rods.

silviaguy240
03-02-2009, 08:25 PM
you can use s14 inners also, spl and Brian W both recommend using the s14 inners with the spl outers on modded knuckles.

zaquanh
03-02-2009, 09:56 PM
yea ive heard that , ima call them or sumthin tomarow

FaLKoN240
03-02-2009, 11:29 PM
For the peace of mind I will always use SPL from now on.

After pricing out the cost to tow or drive another car out to where the broken car is and replace the tie rod, then re-align the car after buying the correct part, I don't buy shitty questionable parts anymore.

Those tie rod ends look just like the Kazama ones, which look just like the Megan ones.

I wouldn't be surprised if they were made in the same shitty factory.

slider2828
03-02-2009, 11:45 PM
I actually bought them.... Pure junk don't buy them or megans or kazamas... All the same company. Wouldn't last you 6 months before you get play.

racepar1
03-03-2009, 12:26 AM
you can use s14 inners also, spl and Brian W both recommend using the s14 inners with the spl outers on modded knuckles.

Look on their website. They use the z-32 inner tie rods which are thicker then the s-14 ones.

IcedOutSoulja13
03-03-2009, 12:34 AM
peak performance.. huge spacers on both..they work best with s14 lca and spindals..

stance
03-03-2009, 04:04 AM
im using tie rod spacers with the CS tie rod set...no probs at all

zaquanh
03-03-2009, 06:53 AM
Look on their website. They use the z-32 inner tie rods which are thicker then the s-14 ones.


if im not mistaken isnt s14 ones longer and thicker?

im using tie rod spacers with the CS tie rod set...no probs at all


how? they must be small spacers , circuit sports them selves told me they wont work , there to short , we just did this on an alignment rack about a week ago pulled them off and alignment was perfect

stance
03-03-2009, 06:59 AM
actually their from powered by max one of the thickest spacers out there..they work fine..

McRussellPants
03-03-2009, 08:14 AM
Look on their website. They use the z-32 inner tie rods which are thicker then the s-14 ones.

Yeah, the Z32 inner is also shorter than the S14,But they both have the same 14mm thread, so they'll bend at about the same time.

Im using SPL/Z32 setup on my knuckle setup and it works, but no harm in S14 inners since they have to be so much longer.


All you people with knuckles, The SPL outters are the only ones that won't destroy themselves in two seconds of driving that let you get the length you need to toe the front correctly.

Adikt
03-03-2009, 11:00 AM
I'm running SPL outers and Tein inners on my s14 with the PSM knuckles. Lengths are good, the only thing I ran into an issue with is the length of the actual shank. Since the knuckles lower the mounting point so much the shank was hitting the wheel. I had to cut about 1cm off each one for clearance

SoSideways
03-03-2009, 11:18 AM
PSM knuckle kits actually will work better with stock style tie rod ends.

The MA Motorsports ones will benefit from the SPL Parts tie rod ends.

Sileighty_85
03-03-2009, 11:23 AM
Damn, The CS setup is crappy? I got a buddy that is gonna be selling me his setup for like $80

Maybe i'll just pick them up for the wifes DD.

silviaguy240
03-03-2009, 11:29 AM
Look on their website. They use the z-32 inner tie rods which are thicker then the s-14 ones.

Application notes: On a 240SX with stock knuckles, our outer tie rod ends should only be used with 300ZX (Z32) or 350Z/G35 inner tie rods; it cannot be used with standard 240SX (S13 or S14) inner tie rods. On a 240SX with certain modified knuckles (eg. MA Motorsports knuckle), you may need to use S14 inner tie rods with our outer tie rod ends, please verify with the maker of the knuckle for details. Please also refer to our selection of inner tie rods below.

and

We offer 3 types of inner tie rods for use with our outer tie rod ends, please pick the correct one for your application:

240SX with stock knuckles, for drift use: Tein Z33 inner tie rods. These beefy tie rods are much stronger than stock, and are supplied with steering angle spacers for increased steering angle.



240SX with stock knuckles, for grip or street use: OEM Z32 inner tie rods. These beefy tie rods are also much stronger than stock, and are supplied with locking plates for a full OEM install.



240SX with certain modified knuckles, for drift use: Tein S14 inner tie rods. Please confirm with the maker of your modified knuckles about compatibility; these inner tie rods are needed for certain knuckles that need a steering tie rod assembly that is longer than stock.

Note: All these inner tie rods are intended for use with our SPL outer tie rod ends only. They do not work with other brand outer tie rod ends.




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Dousan_PG
03-03-2009, 11:40 AM
I use tein inners s14 with spl outters on 3up modded spindles

FaLKoN240
03-03-2009, 11:56 AM
Sounds like if you're poor get the PSM with stock style, and if you're a baller SPL with MA motorsports.

OK DONE.

slider2828
03-03-2009, 01:15 PM
Damn, The CS setup is crappy? I got a buddy that is gonna be selling me his setup for like $80

Maybe i'll just pick them up for the wifes DD.

F... man I have a set that I will give to you for free.... If you pay for shipping.... Not even worth the time to put on or the money to align the car after....

Sileighty_85
03-03-2009, 01:20 PM
F... man I have a set that I will give to you for free.... If you pay for shipping.... Not even worth the time to put on or the money to align the car after....

shit if there that bad then NVR mind, lol
I dont want to even risk my wife wreckin

$PL it is then

!Zar!
03-03-2009, 01:35 PM
Yeah, fuck shitty tie rod setups.

It sucks destroying tierod setups when you AREN'T crashing.

It costs more money, but you save money in the long run.

SPL lives the thug life. Can't fuck with them.

slider2828
03-03-2009, 01:43 PM
Just buy stock.... or teins... Whatever.... if the car isn't crazy lowered, bumpsteer if any is minimal

racepar1
03-03-2009, 01:45 PM
The SPL's also use SAE rod ends. That means that when the rod ends do go bad it will be super easy to source new ones. I would personally use differrent bearings once they go bad, but that's just me. Most companies use obscure metric ends that are almost impossible to source here in the states.

slider2828
03-03-2009, 01:52 PM
^^ Yup I totally agree....

McRussellPants
03-03-2009, 02:09 PM
The SPL's also use SAE rod ends. That means that when the rod ends do go bad it will be super easy to source new ones. I would personally use differrent bearings once they go bad, but that's just me. Most companies use obscure metric ends that are almost impossible to source here in the states.

The high Misalignment QA1s Kuah picked will probably also help for us cut knuckle guys.

And the New rear arms use a serious rod end too, super serious.

I could club someone to death with SPL arms only slightly angry, as opposed to having to be in a rage to get it done with like, Kazama links.

I'll snap some shots, I love the new V3 stuff, so much easier to adjust than the old style, super beefy and angled for super low cars.

SoSideways
03-03-2009, 02:41 PM
Russell, you know of anyone running the new "super low" version of the KTS coilovers?

zaquanh
03-03-2009, 03:07 PM
The high Misalignment QA1s Kuah picked will probably also help for us cut knuckle guys.

And the New rear arms use a serious rod end too, super serious.

I could club someone to death with SPL arms only slightly angry, as opposed to having to be in a rage to get it done with like, Kazama links.

I'll snap some shots, I love the new V3 stuff, so much easier to adjust than the old style, super beefy and angled for super low cars.


i called them no answer but thats the route im heading

and what do you mean v3 are you using olders ones , dont they have v5 out?

McRussellPants
03-03-2009, 03:23 PM
i called them no answer but thats the route im heading

and what do you mean v3 are you using olders ones , dont they have v5 out?

I don't know what outters I have.

i have the newest Shanks... maybe like V3 hardware though.

Super Low KTS have been in the works for a while, I told Kuah he needed an option since you have to droop spring on the regular KTS to tuck tire with Z32 uprights.

Regular Front goes pretty low just by fiddling with the collars, well, retarded low.

The Rear is just about a 2in shorter shock I think. should work perfect.

Def
03-03-2009, 09:00 PM
The rod ends on those things suck. I got some off eBay for super cheap just to see how crappy they are. The shanks are ok I guess, the rod ends are the worst part, and the rod end thread is so odd ball you can't find a replacement here.

I'm going to custom make some stuff and use a QA1 PCMR10 rod end with either those shanks or just use a 5/8" bolt and some spacers I make myself.

zaquanh
03-03-2009, 09:13 PM
damn thats crazy yea i already have stock outers and inners and pbm spacers , but i want knuckles :) just want to do them right

slider2828
03-04-2009, 09:37 AM
The rod ends on those things suck. I got some off eBay for super cheap just to see how crappy they are. The shanks are ok I guess, the rod ends are the worst part, and the rod end thread is so odd ball you can't find a replacement here.

I'm going to custom make some stuff and use a QA1 PCMR10 rod end with either those shanks or just use a 5/8" bolt and some spacers I make myself.

This guy speaks the troooofffff!!!! Hey def, are you ever going to make those spherical upright bushings for the S13 rears? Cause I WANT SOME NOW!!! Lol... Thanks!

What do you think about the Aurora spherical ends? 60 bux a pop? Are they worth it?