997 brakes

[J.Silvia]

Im about to pick up a front and rear set of 05 911s 13" brakes. I was curious if anyone as has done a similar conversion off of any other porsche's to there s13 or s14.

[96Turbo]

damn dude....

I think you're on your own for this one. Show pics of the rotors/calipers!!

What's the bolt pattern on the porsche? Something tells me it's not 5x4.5

If it were, then it would only be a matter of designing/getting someone to build some adapter plates.

Otherwise you're gonna hafta hack up the rotor to fit your hubs....

[J.Silvia]

yeah the bolt pattern is 5x130. The center hole on the rotor looks kinda big but if i can redrill them then i might be able to get by with out getting custom rotors. I've been doing alot of research and its hard to find any one except for evo and sti guys trying this swap. The only other reason i think i may need a custom rotor is do to the fact that i dont think the offset for the rotor is gonna work.

[projectRDM]

There was a company who made brackets way back in 97-98 to fit Porsche calipers to the Z/S chassis, can't remember their name though. Google may bring it up.

[JRas]

why not just get STi, Evo or 350z calipers?

[Chad4061]

do it...it would be unique for sure!

[J.Silvia]

why not just get STi, Evo or 350z calipers?

becuase I have more fun making things harder on myself. Also 300 bucks for 13" rotors and 4 piston calipers all around is pretty cheap I'd say :bigok:

[J.Silvia]

There was a company who made brackets way back in 97-98 to fit Porsche calipers to the Z/S chassis, can't remember their name though. Google may bring it up.

that's one thing I haven't checked yet. So far the best source of info were the places that do grass roots racing.

[ixfxi]

becuase I have more fun making things harder on myself. Also 300 bucks for 13" rotors and 4 piston calipers all around is pretty cheap I'd say :bigok:

if you're anything like me, you'll do things the smart way and sell them for buckoo bucks and then buy yourself and brake system designed to fit your car (stoptech/brembo/etc). less work with better results.

[blackrms13]

i remember theres a white s13 coupe somewhere that has porsche calipers
calipers are red and says porsche on them
im pretty sure i saw the pic on zilvia

i duno if this post will help tho...lol

[racepar1]

becuase I have more fun making things harder on myself. Also 300 bucks for 13" rotors and 4 piston calipers all around is pretty cheap I'd say :bigok:

I wouldn't want 13" rotors or 4-piston calipers in the rear of my 240. That shit is way overkill. You've gotta think about the brake bias and you also have to figure out if there is a master cylinder that you can use.

[Anto]

Silvia Pics (http://www.stillensucks.com/Project_Silvia/240SR_Update_08_21_03/photos/frontbrakes.html)

www.stillensucks.com (http://www.stillensucks.com/big_red_info.htm)

[J.Silvia]

Silvia Pics (http://www.stillensucks.com/Project_Silvia/240SR_Update_08_21_03/photos/frontbrakes.html)

www.stillensucks.com (http://www.stillensucks.com/big_red_info.htm)

that info's gonna help alot thanks. my rotors are a bit bigger 330x34 but that gets me in the right direction

[deuceforty]

not that it helps any, but this is pretty common with the audi guys..
when i worked for porsche we were next door and worked pretty hand in hand with audi and jag.

alot of the cooler audis (a4,a3) would often have the porsche 911 brake setups

[s15specR]

You can buy my Evo brembo's with all new hardware and new rotors (lifetime warranty) for the low all you need it the adapter bracket........

[deuceforty]

he doesnt want your evo brembos.

theres a sale section for that.

hes asking about porsche calipers.

[garagelu]

I agree that porsche brakes are way overkill. I would sell them and get some sti or evo brembos. I have the sti brembos on all 4 corners with 300zx e brake setup and the setup is more than enough. Oh I have ABS also and I feel like my braking system is very confident and predictable. Right now I just need to replace rotors and pads. I am looking at powerslots or dba rotors.

This is just my opinion.....

[devonkyle77]

someone on here has porsche front brakes
i know ive seen it on here before.
all i can remember is hes from cali, so that only eliminates like 40% of the total population of this forum. sorry!


*edit
http://www.stillensucks.com/Project_Silvia/new_shoes/

thats not the guy i was thinking of, but someone else on this forum that has done it (name on here is turboZX).
check a z32 forum, those guys do it much more often.

[ManoNegra]

I've talked about this with a friend
since we may be able to get the calipers stupid cheap
then machine brackets and custom hats to use stock rotors
overkill? probably
but it'd be a cool thing to do

[cc4usmc]

Does anyone know anything about the OP's car? Because if you don't, how can you know it will be overkill for him? OP, I'd suggest locking this and in your last post asking anyone with any real knowledge PM you, otherwise this is going to get retarded. Well, could get retarded.

[Ali 556]

330mm rotor ...lol,

be a REAL man and get porsche cayan GT-S Brakes...

IIRC the fronts are 380mm rotor and 4 (maybe 6 ?) pot caliper...

Or This

AMG S63 8 Piston caliper (must run 19'' rims)

http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/Mercedes_Benz/AMG/S63/s63amg_brakes.jpg

lol,

FYI Evo rotors are 320mm and Z rotor are 330mm IIRC

:squint:

Ali

[s13gebala]

i always loved how those amg calipers look

so fucking huge, on a beautiful car..

they make my z32's look like shit

[ixfxi]

they make my z32's look like shit

thats because they ARE shit.

the z brakes are good for what they are, but theyre not good for tracking or serious road racing. on the Z they are completely useless, on the 240 they are better., but not great.

you guys fail to realize that you can spend years trying to adapt *production* parts onto your cars, or............ wait for it.............

you can save your money and buy a product thats engineered to bolt-onto your vehicle like stoptech or brembo. amazing how people just DONT want to save money and spend money. hard fucking concept.

if you have real good access to maching shit and youre a really smart person, i can understand, appreciate, and commend peoples efforts for wanting to adapt a porsche caliper onto their car. however, lets not over-estimate the brain power of the majority of young, broke, and most importantly ignorant 240 owners - this is brakes were talking about. if you guys cant get simple shit down like staying away from HID kits, then you probably shouldnt fuck with brakes and leave that to the engineers of society. afterall, you do share the road with the rest of us.

[Ali 556]

thats because they ARE shit.

the z brakes are good for what they are, but theyre not good for tracking or serious road racing. on the Z they are completely useless, on the 240 they are better., but not great.

you guys fail to realize that you can spend years trying to adapt *production* parts onto your cars, or............ wait for it.............

you can save your money and buy a product thats engineered to bolt-onto your vehicle like stoptech or brembo. amazing how people just DONT want to save money and spend money. hard fucking concept.

if you have real good access to maching shit and youre a really smart person, i can understand, appreciate, and commend peoples efforts for wanting to adapt a porsche caliper onto their car. however, lets not over-estimate the brain power of the majority of young, broke, and most importantly ignorant 240 owners - this is brakes were talking about. if you guys cant get simple shit down like staying away from HID kits, then you probably shouldnt fuck with brakes and leave that to the engineers of society. afterall, you do share the road with the rest of us.


+564654657685621769546

Stoptech BBK > ALL other Shit...

on the other hand the caliper on the S13 look much like my EVO IX Brembo caliper...

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/brb-/Image320.jpg?t=1235883610

:hitit:
So i believe that is not a porsch caliper...dunno,

OP if you want BEST $$$/brakes try to adapt 06+ Z06 caliper + rotor...Or even the ZR1's 380mm ceramic rotor....
:werd:

Ali
Hell....sky is teh limit here,

[Anto]

OP if you want BEST $$$/brakes try to adapt 06+ Z06 caliper + rotor


I heard the Z06 calipers aren't that good?

[Ka24Power]

Ali - those AMG S63 calipers are actually 2 single piston floating calipers. The 8 piston AMG calipers aren't used one the S class. The ones you're thinking of are used on the Sl63 and SL65's.

[racepar1]

thats because they ARE shit.

the z brakes are good for what they are, but theyre not good for tracking or serious road racing. on the Z they are completely useless, on the 240 they are better., but not great.

you guys fail to realize that you can spend years trying to adapt *production* parts onto your cars, or............ wait for it.............

you can save your money and buy a product thats engineered to bolt-onto your vehicle like stoptech or brembo. amazing how people just DONT want to save money and spend money. hard fucking concept.

if you have real good access to maching shit and youre a really smart person, i can understand, appreciate, and commend peoples efforts for wanting to adapt a porsche caliper onto their car. however, lets not over-estimate the brain power of the majority of young, broke, and most importantly ignorant 240 owners - this is brakes were talking about. if you guys cant get simple shit down like staying away from HID kits, then you probably shouldnt fuck with brakes and leave that to the engineers of society. afterall, you do share the road with the rest of us.

Mike I've gotta disagree with you here. I ran all year last year with stock calipers and stock sized rotors on my car. I never had any issues with brake fade (thank you 3" brake ducts). I got my fluid so hot that I melted the little plastic clip that holds the dr front brake line next to the bolt for the master on the brake booster, but still no fade. Z-32 brakes are plenty for track abuse, you just need to make some brake ducting and choose your brake pads and fluid wisely. Having some sort of brake ducting and choosing pads and fluid wisely are important no matter what brakes you have on your car, even baller big brake kits. Now the z-32 set-up (or the r-32 or 33) is engineered to work correctly as long as you choose the right master. I am not very encouraging to people that are trying to piece a big brake set-up together out of parts that weren't designed to work together on the other hand. There IS a LOT more engineering into brakes then the vast majority of people realize. I URGE anyone that is piecing together a set-up to take the time and find out the piston bore sizes of the calipers you want to use and compare them to either your stock calipers or a known solution (like z brakes). The relationship between the surface areas of the pistons on the front and rear calipers is imperative for proportioning.

[ixfxi]

aron, how much power is your car putting down?

[awesomenick]

Everything I've read says his car is stock KA.

Maybe bolt ons?

Awesome IMO.

[J.Silvia]

I found a company called rennsport out of Oregon who has been making the " big red brake " kits for audis and other euros.It seems like there pretty well known in the euro scene. Im gonna give them a call in the morning and see how much it will be and if they could fab up some brackets.

[Ali 556]

Mike I've gotta disagree with you here. I ran all year last year with stock calipers and stock sized rotors on my car. I never had any issues with brake fade (thank you 3" brake ducts). I got my fluid so hot that I melted the little plastic clip that holds the dr front brake line next to the bolt for the master on the brake booster, but still no fade. Z-32 brakes are plenty for track abuse, you just need to make some brake ducting and choose your brake pads and fluid wisely. Having some sort of brake ducting and choosing pads and fluid wisely are important no matter what brakes you have on your car, even baller big brake kits. Now the z-32 set-up (or the r-32 or 33) is engineered to work correctly as long as you choose the right master. .

+16494734690724672

I rember back in 07 i've driven my friend KA-T S13 with Z32 Brakes allround and some 3" ductin....

spent 6 laps without brake fade...until the engine over heated b/c he is usuing stock Rad

GT28 Ka-t with around 300whp and 255/40/18 front and 275/40/18 rear...

Op you have more than one option :

1- Stock stuff with SS lines and proper pads. (stock - stockish KA)

2- Z32 With proper pads and SS lines. (maybe SR-KA-T Or) (best $$/braking power ratio).

3- Z33 With proper pads and SS lines (will run you ALTLEAST 1K$ And must get 18'' rims).

4- EVO/STI With proper pads and SS lines (againe ATLEAST 1K$ + adapter upfront).

5- Stoptech/Brembo/ROTORA/Endless BBK (atlest 3-5K$)

STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM AZ CAR WILWOOD "BIG BRAKE KIT" it's CRAP and you need alot of shit to make the rears fit + Losing E-brakes.

Againe Sky is the limit here.....also if you have the $$$ get 997 911 TURBO/GT2 Brakes the are ceramic and the pads will stay with you for Atleast 50000 miles to 100000 miles.....
:eek2:

Sure hope this help,

Ali

P.S
My setup of EVO brakes allaorund + ss lines and Ralliart TARMAC pads front and Endless rears lasted 3 laps with no fade.....

[racepar1]

aron, how much power is your car putting down?

Not much, stock ka. That isn't the point though. Sure with more power I would have overheated my stock brakes, but not a z-32 set-up (much less the GTR set-up that I am now running). Maybe with 500hp I could see the need for a ginormous big brake kit, but with 500hp you will need a whole lot of things that 99.99999999999% of the rest of the 240 community does not. The average sr (or KA-t) 240 has 300whp or less, z-brakes can handle that no problem with the right pads, fluid, and some brake ducting.

[mondojackal]

Arguing about tracking the car really has no bearing on this, as most people on this site don't road race their cars. I would venture to say that the OP doesn't road race the car, and just wants "baller" brakes.

[renegade_ewok]

The easiest way I could see this happening would be getting custom rotors from brembo (call em up and order, shouldn't be hard) and get someone to CNC a bracket for the caliper after you get the rotors. The caliper was designed to sit at the 240 angle so the bleeder screw is facing up, right?

[racepar1]

Arguing about tracking the car really has no bearing on this, as most people on this site don't road race their cars. I would venture to say that the OP doesn't road race the car, and just wants "baller" brakes.

Considering brake bias IS important in any application though. Just because a car is a hard parker street car doesn't mean that it's ok to be an idiot and slap shit on the car that you don't understand. Most of my discussion here is on the subject of maintaining the proper bias. I personally think it is absolutely dumbfucktarded to put huge brakes on a car that you are only going to drive on the street. I mean what's the point? To be baller? Wanna be baller, get dope ass wheels and just use some z-brakes. Then you look baller, have brakes that actually work correctly, and save a bunch of time and money fabricating some custom shit or purchasing a big brake kit.

[ixfxi]

Not much, stock ka. That isn't the point..

no aron, that IS the point. make more power and you'll understand.

or even better, let me drive your car balls out down sepulveda, from the crest down towards LA and I'll gladly show you how much of a beating I'll put on your brakes.

with KA, they were fair. but with SR, they were becoming less and less effective.

And yes, I had air vents aiming air at my brakes as well. simply put, the Z32 brakes only have a certain amount of durability.

which version of the calipers are you running, cast iron or aluminum?

[slider2828]

I run laps all the time on a 340WHP SR on the track. I beat the crap out of it and with the right pads and fluid its fine....

Run some porterfields R4 and RBF600.... will never fade on you with great modulation. I don't care what calipers you are on, Hawks HP+ or whatever.... still fade... Period...

Its not the calipers its the hardware you put on it....

If you want baller setup, then go performance friction 05 or 07 compound pads all around with some 2 piece rotors, they make. I promise you, you are NOT going to have any brake fade what so ever....

By the way I have Iron calipers all around.....

*** To the OP poster ****

Go to any respectable race shop and they will fab it up for you. There isn't going to be a ready made piece for you to get it working, the fattest brakes I have seen is a Ferrari F355 caliper with carbon rotors on a S15 and hands down that is straight sick....

[racepar1]

no aron, that IS the point. make more power and you'll understand.

or even better, let me drive your car balls out down sepulveda, from the crest down towards LA and I'll gladly show you how much of a beating I'll put on your brakes.

with KA, they were fair. but with SR, they were becoming less and less effective.

And yes, I had air vents aiming air at my brakes as well. simply put, the Z32 brakes only have a certain amount of durability.

which version of the calipers are you running, cast iron or aluminum?


Mike if you are getting brakes THAT hot in the canyons you're braking too much. I ran canyons 5 nights a week for years and I only know of 3 roads that really got the brakes hot (tuna canyon AKA the one-way downhill, decker/westlake blvd if you REALLY push it, and las flores). When I say "ran the canyons" I don't mean that I went up and screwed around with my buddies. I played king of the mountain/initial-d bullshit (like an idiot) and was quite good at it. Your pad and fluid selection was almost certainly the problem. I know a TON of track guys that run SR's with z-32 brakes that never have brake problems. I have Dave's old aluminum r-32 GTR calipers with the 32mm x 296mm rotors now. I ran that set-up HARD at big willow with no brake ducts without an issue.

[silvia-r14]

Awhile back i got some brakets of a guy from ny. To do 350 track rotors on my s14. And i was talking to the guy and he told me that he can make you any kind of blakets you need for any set up. All you have to do is send him the part along with your hubs and harms and he will fabricat the blakets and send them back to you. I dont remember the name but i will check cuz i still have the paper work from when i got my stuff. And post it up.

[ixfxi]

Mike if you are getting brakes THAT hot in the canyons you're braking too much. I ran canyons 5 nights a week for years and I only know of 3 roads that really got the brakes hot (tuna canyon AKA the one-way downhill, decker/westlake blvd if you REALLY push it, and las flores). When I say "ran the canyons" I don't mean that I went up and screwed around with my buddies. I played king of the mountain/initial-d bullshit (like an idiot) and was quite good at it. Your pad and fluid selection was almost certainly the problem. I know a TON of track guys that run SR's with z-32 brakes that never have brake problems. I have Dave's old aluminum r-32 GTR calipers with the 32mm x 296mm rotors now. I ran that set-up HARD at big willow with no brake ducts without an issue.

we gotta hit the canyons up sometimes, thats for sure. ive overheated them going back towards malibu on topenga, you've obviously driven that canyon and know that the last S turns are murder.

i'm basing this critique not only from my direct experience with the 30mm aluminum calipers, but also from customers who own Z32's. obviously those calipers on the Z32 are going to be pressed harder due to the heavier chassis, but generally speaking... the calipers are good only for so much abuse, thats all i am trying to say.

i dont have any experience with the cast iron calipers but i will most definitely believe that they are more durable especially since they superceded the alum calipers. either a lot of people complained and nissan did something it... AND/OR nissan tried to cut costs since that was when nissan was going through financial troubles.

Anyway, this is way too much thought to put on a brake system that i've replaced and upgraded with stoptech. i'm just saying that people should research before they do. i still cringe when i see people install front calipers without addressing the rears & master cylinder.

[racepar1]

we gotta hit the canyons up sometimes, thats for sure. ive overheated them going back towards malibu on topenga, you've obviously driven that canyon and know that the last S turns are murder.

For sure, but you gotta get your car running first!

i'm just saying that people should research before they do. i still cringe when i see people install front calipers without addressing the rears & master cylinder.

:werd:

I hate stupid people.

[holemilk00]

I've been the route of the C6 Z06 brakes, I had them and worked on it for months (with the help of my dad who is a master fabricator for a division of ford that builds the auto show displays), there just isn't enough room to get any sort of bracket on there without compromising the front spindle. Between the two of us I would like to think we covered every angle, but I know this isn't always true so maybe someone else will have better luck. I've seen people redrill and tab holes further down in their spindle but that just doesn't seem to safe to me. I ended up giving up on them and selling them to a friend who had a regular C6 and we put them on there. With that said, I'm extremely interested in how this turns out. Good luck man, I can't wait to see the results.

[J.Silvia]

Just picked up my full set of 05 997 Carrera S front and rear brakes http://209.85.48.10/html/emoticons/tongue.gif

The fronts are 330x34mm with 4 piston calipers

The rear are 330x28mm with 4 piston calipers

The front calipers are the size of my 13" shoe http://209.85.48.10/html/emoticons/ohmy.gif

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/JSilviaS14/IMG_0148.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/JSilviaS14/IMG_0149.jpg
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/JSilviaS14/IMG_0150.jpg

mmmmm sexy http://209.85.48.10/html/emoticons/cool.gif

[projekt_s13]

Nice!!! Can I has them?

[J.Silvia]

you can buys them lol

[cc4usmc]

Where? Those are pretty.

[vvtisupra]

come on guys do a little research on brake bias, master cylinder size, piston sizing, fluid displacement and pedal stroke.

sure porsche brakes would look cool on a nissan oh wait no it won't.

And for OP number 5. Please don't put StopTech with rotora, brembo, endless etc.

Stoptech is considered a BBBK
Balanced big brake kit. their piston sizing is purely developed for a balance between front and rear bias and factory master cylinder/fluid displacement.

Sure the diameter of a rotor may affect bias but also remember the same goes for piston bore sizing !

[racepar1]

come on guys do a little research on brake bias, master cylinder size, piston sizing, fluid displacement and pedal stroke.

sure porsche brakes would look cool on a nissan oh wait no it won't.

And for OP number 5. Please don't put StopTech with rotora, brembo, endless etc.

Stoptech is considered a BBBK
Balanced big brake kit. their piston sizing is purely developed for a balance between front and rear bias and factory master cylinder/fluid displacement.

Sure the diameter of a rotor may affect bias but also remember the same goes for piston bore sizing !


:stupid:

What he said.......again

[J.Silvia]

I've already been talking with fastbrakes.com, they said the front are a nice upgrade and a bracket should be around 300 per set plus custom rotors and brake lines. Im thinking it should be around another 700 or so for the fronts to go on. have you guys seen a brembo bbk.... its actually pretty similar in piston size to my front calipers.
The main reason i think people dont normally do this is do to the normal price of this uprgrade, if i paid full price i would of paid like 1200 just for the fronts USED. I did not pay very much at all for these.

[vvtisupra]

similar does not = same. It might be off a few mm but remember you have 4-6 pistons... and also remember piston sizes taper towards the leading edge of the caliper are they similar or the same ?

also, you have to measure the swept area Changes in this may cause a change in overal torque output

[J.Silvia]

i took some more pics for those curious about brake balnce and piston size, guess what........

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/JSilviaS14/IMG_0005.jpg
They actually have two different sized pistons


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/JSilviaS14/IMG_0004.jpg
The funny part is the bigger piston is the exact same diameter of a z32 piston, so the fronts are most likely better balnced then the BBK that you would normally buy.

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/JSilviaS14/IMG_0001.jpg
Check out these funny brake pads, theres like a piston attached to the pad that slips into the caliper piston.

Oh ya the rear calipers have little baby pistons. ill post pics of those later.

[J.Silvia]

I cleaned off one of rear calipers and omg the rear pistons are cute little fellas, The rear rear is set up the same as the front. One piston is bigger then the other, one is barely bigger then a quarter and the other is smaller then a quarter. I also took some pics of the fronts compared to z32 calipers.
http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/JSilviaS14/IMG_0015.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/JSilviaS14/IMG_0017.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/JSilviaS14/IMG_0007.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/JSilviaS14/IMG_0008.jpg

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t253/JSilviaS14/IMG_0010.jpg

[smelly240]

all brembos have 2 different size pistons... evos, gts, sti's, gtr's, z33. the z06 brakes had problems only because the idiots at gm tried saving a few dollars to have a unisex (same on both sides) rotor. The RF iirc rotors crack and have issues. people have been selling those cheap because of it... im sure someone else has made rotors that correct the issues.

ecs tuning makes a bbk that uses the touareg/q7/cayenne brakes for a mk4 or mk5 golf/jetta. those things are big.

[GSXRJJordan]

Yes the Z06 calipers are great, as long as you replace the rotors for track use. You can't really redrill 5x5.5 to 5x4.5 anyway, so new 'custom' (two piece if you're baller) rotors make it a truly great package.

I'm really surprised the 997 brakes are similar in piston size and pad area to the Z32. Makes me really happy with my z32's lol.

[MrChow]

That's really interesting to see. I wonder why they did the pads and pistols like that.

[xs240]

STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM WILWOOD ARIZONA Z CAR BBK
I have it and it's fine, what's your problem with them. They are a great price for brand new wilwood calipers and 2 piece rotors. No used junk.

The rear yes you lose the e-brake but who cares? If you're into drifting I guess... that could be a problem but you could build a hydraulic e-brake. I don't need one, my car is for road racing and I park it in 1st. Other than that easy peasy, no issues.

[J.Silvia]

This was a email from fastbrakes.com regarding pricing of my front brake swap.

I already have the 4 and 5 bolt spindles for design work, so all I’d need would be the caliper.

The slotted rotors are $185 each, the rotor hats are approx $325/pair with bolts. Lines are $80/pair.

Wheels shouldn’t be any problem.

[J.Silvia]

So its gonna be around 775 for all the hardware for my front brakes to go on. So including my front calipers its around 1000 even. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

[JRas]

So its gonna be around 775 for all the hardware for my front brakes to go on. So including my front calipers its around 1000 even. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

Why didn't you just go with EVO's or STI's? :-/

[ixfxi]

come on guys do a little research on brake bias, master cylinder size, piston sizing, fluid displacement and pedal stroke.

sure porsche brakes would look cool on a nissan oh wait no it won't.

And for OP number 5. Please don't put StopTech with rotora, brembo, endless etc.

Stoptech is considered a BBBK
Balanced big brake kit. their piston sizing is purely developed for a balance between front and rear bias and factory master cylinder/fluid displacement.

Sure the diameter of a rotor may affect bias but also remember the same goes for piston bore sizing !

i was talking about this with some of my friends, both of which are very experienced when it comes to physics and engineering. the "balanced brake upgrades" slogan of stoptech's is complete nonsense. balanced how?

for example, lets say you purchase their front brake upgrade for a Z32 300ZX. is it still balanced? obviously the answer is no, because the braking capabilities have been drastically changed and in the case of the front brakes, radically improved. therefor, the rears will need to be purchased and installed. now you install the rears, well there is a good chance that you will still need to do fine-tuning to make the brake system work to its best potential.

i am not knocking stoptech, i actually own a set... but i think their slogan is stupid.

[J.Silvia]

Why didn't you just go with EVO's or STI's? :-/

Becuase I wanted a better caliper and rotor set up. The rotors are going to be a custom 2 piece that are 330x34 for the front. Also i like to have things different then what other people have.

[efrain240sx]

hey racepar do you have any pics of your brake ducting. thanks

[EDT007]

Any updates?........

[JRas]

Becuase I wanted a better caliper and rotor set up. The rotors are going to be a custom 2 piece that are 330x34 for the front. Also i like to have things different then what other people have.

What makes you think you NEED better? Z32 Alum 30mm would probably be enough :-/

I hope everything works out.. I have a habit of taking on projects like this :hide: