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redline racer510
02-26-2009, 01:44 PM
I am
going to be replacing all of the bushings throughout the car. The car will be mostly street driven with occasional mountain runs and drifting. I want my car to be comfortable and not have the whole car shake everytime you hit a small bump. From what i have learned some poeple consider urethane bushings too stiff and even unpleasant driving on normal roads. My other option is going with nismo bushings. I would like additional feedback on what people like and dislike about their urethane or nismo bushings and their quality and fitment.
ixfxi
02-26-2009, 02:51 PM
go with nismo if price isnt a concern.
urethane should be used if you dont mind lubricating the bushings often and if you dont mind a very stiff ride. it didnt bother me too much when i hate urethane, but i am switching to nismo now.
slider2828
02-26-2009, 03:23 PM
Nismo = little better than stock for what you are doing its perfect...
Poly's have binding sometimes and noise and it IS harsh.....
redline racer510
02-26-2009, 05:32 PM
should i buy the nismo bushing package from project nissan for 177 or do you guys know of a place they sell it cheaper
ManoNegra
02-26-2009, 07:22 PM
should i buy the nismo bushing package from project nissan for 177 or do you guys know of a place they sell it cheaper
what bushings are included in that package?
if it's a master set then the price sounds reasonable
to op, if comfort is a priority then I'd stay away from poly bushings.
clark
02-27-2009, 08:46 AM
you have an 240sx. your car WILL shake when it hits a bump.....
the urethane bushings align all your suspension better than rubber and give you a more direct feeling.
it's your motor/trans mount/diff bushings/coil selection that will probably be the biggest factor here.
if you have stiff coils, yeah you're gonna shake.
nismo motor mount shake isn't bad. i like it.
redline racer510
02-27-2009, 09:46 AM
sorry its more like $759 to replace all of the suspension bushings with nismo bushings i think i might go with ES bushings for $145
pink godzila
02-27-2009, 10:40 AM
I recommand just change the inks instead of bushing.
ixfxi
02-27-2009, 03:08 PM
sorry its more like $759 to replace all of the suspension bushings with nismo bushings i think i might go with ES bushings for $145
if price is a concern, why not just buy my polyurethane bushings? i just pulled them off and they didnt really get much use, they're still in good condition.
its all being replaced with nismo.
DJ_Sunrise
02-27-2009, 03:42 PM
I would recommend you check out SPC first, then upgrade your bushings with whatever is left. SPC makes high quality adjustable arms at great prices. More importantly, if you ever decide to do santioned racing, their parts won't bump you up into a crazy class. They use OEM solid type bushings, not spherical bearings, and not urethane.
-Bart
s13gebala
02-27-2009, 03:58 PM
all my arms have pillow ball, which will prob be a #**## on the street, i have the es poly bushings on sway bar, and the links. and 2 on the steering rack
oem bushings are wack, i replaced my maximas sway link bushings and there already cracked within 2 months..
:[
ixfxi
02-27-2009, 08:21 PM
all my arms have pillow ball, which will prob be a #**## on the street, i have the es poly bushings on sway bar, and the links. and 2 on the steering rack
oem bushings are wack, i replaced my maximas sway link bushings and there already cracked within 2 months..
:[
sway bar bushings are the least critical bushings ever, when it comes to ride compliance. i am still going to use my polyurethane bushings for that.
besides, you may want to check for oil leaks of your bushings are cracking that early - that typically happens on old junky maximas with power steering fluid leaking all over the place. :-)
redline racer510
02-27-2009, 08:27 PM
ok i am thinking about doing ES bushings
yes or no?
Howard92884
02-27-2009, 10:29 PM
I am also going to be replacing all the bushings in my S13. My car will be a weekend track car but still my DD, so I want to stiffen it up but don't want it to be bone jarring. From what I've been searching on here the Poly urethane subframe spacers won't clunk or make as much noise as the aluminum ones. I am going with the RSR Poly Master Bushing and Peak Performance Poly Subframe Spacers.
RSR 77-N010 D1 Spec Polyurethane Energy Bushing Kit Nissan S13 (http://www.frsport.com/RSR-77-N010-D1-Spec-Polyurethane-Energy-Bushing-Kit-Nissan-S13_p_1310.html)
Peak Performance Polyurethane Subframe Spacer Bushings Nissan S13 S14 (http://www.frsport.com/Peak-Performance-Polyurethane-Subframe-Spacer-Bushings-Nissan-S13-S14_p_1357.html)
DJ_Sunrise
02-28-2009, 04:28 PM
Shoot yourself in the face if you are worried about noise in a 240, and go buy yourself a caddy :)
-Bart
redline racer510
03-01-2009, 08:21 AM
you go shoot yourself in the face sir
and why should i settle for less, mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
dont post immature comments. why should a good car squeak?
exactly because you settle for less, i am not worried about the price of nismo bushings just wondering if its worth the price or am i just replacing with near o.e. bushings
sonomadrifter
03-01-2009, 08:37 AM
Nismo bushing user here, though it is hard for me to compare to poly because I have not had poly links, and to stock because the ones I replaced were shot.
The Nismo's, though a pain to replace, I have no complaints with. The ride it stiff but no vibration and jarring.
I purchase most of my bushings from SPLparts.com but as most people here have stated they are not cheap. Either way if your stock bushings are shot, take the time to replace them with something.
nismo 240sx
03-01-2009, 09:26 AM
i have the Energy suspension master bushing set all around and am satsified and there way much cheaper than nismo
jorge1190
03-01-2009, 09:32 AM
Agree with the nismo bushings being a pain but deff worth it. Especially in s14 with worn diff bushings
Nismo bushing user here, though it is hard for me to compare to poly because I have not had poly links, and to stock because the ones I replaced were shot.
The Nismo's, though a pain to replace, I have no complaints with. The ride it stiff but no vibration and jarring.
I purchase most of my bushings from SPLparts.com but as most people here have stated they are not cheap. Either way if your stock bushings are shot, take the time to replace them with something.
ixfxi
03-01-2009, 08:15 PM
why should a good car squeak?
exactly because you settle for less, i am not worried about the price of nismo bushings just wondering if its worth the price or am i just replacing with near o.e. bushings
i told you
ES bushings require constant greasing. your car WILL squeek. so skip that shit and just do the nismo ones, you wont regret it
enkei2k
03-05-2009, 08:46 AM
i told you
ES bushings require constant greasing. your car WILL squeek. so skip that shit and just do the nismo ones, you wont regret it
sorry, but how constant is constant greasing? every 6 months? or every 3k miles? i need to get bushings also, but might as well splurge on nismo's. like coils, do it once, do it right.
slider2828
03-05-2009, 10:07 AM
6 months or due to rain or dirt or heat which covers every 6 months haahha.... Depends on conditions you drive in....
chris300zr
03-05-2009, 10:58 AM
kind of random but does anyone have the RLCA bushings they want to sell? the shop i took my RLCAs to have the jacked stock bushings pressed out lost two of my polys and now im stuck with no daily. :/
dan240
03-11-2009, 04:47 AM
I have ES bushings throughout my car plus aluminum subframe bushings. The car is noticably noisier than with the stock bushings but a lot more responsive.
I think you want to be careful about replacing all the bushings in the rear suspension. The rear needs some flex in it to be able to move smoothly through range of motion on the car without a lot of stiction. I've tried playing with torque settings to try to reduce this as much as I can. Try to use sphericals in the rear as budget allows, with RUCAS being the most important.
I'm not a drifter so this may not apply if thats what you're after but I would imagine that even for drifting you want the rear suspension working properly.
aznpoopy
03-11-2009, 08:01 AM
I have ES bushings throughout my car plus aluminum subframe bushings. The car is noticably noisier than with the stock bushings but a lot more responsive.
I think you want to be careful about replacing all the bushings in the rear suspension. The rear needs some flex in it to be able to move smoothly through range of motion on the car without a lot of stiction. I've tried playing with torque settings to try to reduce this as much as I can. Try to use sphericals in the rear as budget allows, with RUCAS being the most important.
good advice.
spl actually sells pricey press-in sphericals for the rear spindle.
alternatively, a few have added zerk fittings to their hard bushings so they can lube them without too much effort.
ixfxi
03-11-2009, 10:10 AM
a friend and i were talking the other day about how non-compliant the polyurethane bushings are, and how they restrict full suspension travel due to their lack of flexability like you would find in a normal bushing.
that alone is reason enough why ive been going away from polyurethane.
miklos
03-15-2009, 03:43 PM
Has anyone tried the Thermoplastic bushings? They say that they loosen up at high speeds and stiffen at low speeds.
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