View Full Version : stretched tires and safety... fact vs myth
kalypso123
02-16-2009, 11:42 PM
this may seem like a dumb question, but I dont think it is.
once stretched tires are fitted with adequate pressure, lets say a 215, on a 17x9, and your wheel has a proper well
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc167/kalypso678/well.jpg
Is there any risk from running stretched tires?
90KAcoupe
02-17-2009, 12:02 AM
i may be wrong but the drop-center (what your calling the well) has nothing to with stretched tires.. if anything the size of the bead matting surface would be more important.
Otto347
02-17-2009, 08:41 AM
double posting about stretching tires. GTFO learn to search fucktard
FairladyRBZ
02-17-2009, 09:32 AM
Don't do it you'll kill yourself:bowrofl:
SoSideways
02-17-2009, 09:36 AM
Don't do it you'll kill yourself:bowrofl:
STFU and GTFO if you're just gonna be a tard about it.
YoungGun
02-17-2009, 09:40 AM
Stretched tires contribute to 1,536 deaths annually.
redsx13
02-17-2009, 11:06 AM
this may seem like a dumb question, but I dont think it is.
once stretched tires are fitted with adequate pressure, lets say a 215, on a 17x9, and your wheel has a proper well
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc167/kalypso678/well.jpg
Is there any risk from running stretched tires?
lmfao that is not a wheel well,its drop center.
This is a wheel well
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk141/redsx13/Wheel20Well.jpg
BTW, in answer to your question, running stretched tires raises the probability of breaking the bead when your tire goes flat. I would say that yes, it is slightly more dangerous.
kalypso123
02-17-2009, 12:45 PM
Thank you redsx13... that exactly what I was looking for
and also, appreciate the help from everyone.
double posting about stretching tires. GTFO learn to search fucktard
I did search, fuck off
aznpoopy
02-17-2009, 01:00 PM
with adequate pressure, i doubt it.
without adequate pressure, the tire *will sheer from stress at the sidewall. ask me how i know.
gotta240
02-17-2009, 01:09 PM
How do you know?
Otto347
02-17-2009, 01:16 PM
I did search, fuck off :bowrofl::bowrofl: Bullshit, see attached pictar!
Theres 3 whole pages of tire stretching threads.
Jdm.I.Am
02-17-2009, 01:21 PM
with adequate pressure, i doubt it.
without adequate pressure, the tire wheel sheer from stress at the sidewall. ask me how i know.
been running stretched tires for 3+ year now, i have gone as far as a 225/40/18 on a x12.. tire would leak air ever so slowly but never had any probs running a fatty stretch.
kalypso123
02-17-2009, 01:58 PM
from being at full pressure how long did it take to get to 90%
aznpoopy
02-17-2009, 02:21 PM
How do you know?
maybe two years ago, i was a dumbfuck and didn't recheck tire pressure after a big and sudden drop in temps. tires were probably overdue for pressure check way before that. stretch was nothing... only a 225 on a 9" wheel.
the sidewall ripped apart while i was driving on the highway. luckily i felt the vibration about 20 seconds before it happened and decided to pull over. it fully came apart just as i was coasting down... probably going like 20mph at that point.
after the fact, i could see similar wear on the three other tires. i had them all replaced. sidewall rip basically went all around the wheel, except for a little bit. if it hadn't stayed together i'd have been driving on the wheel rim.
so yeah. if you live in a place where it gets cold, don't be stupid like me and let your tires get underinflated. it's mildy bad for normal tires. but could be catastrophic for stretched ones.
kalypso123
02-18-2009, 01:32 PM
aight... thanks everyone im satisfied
hitman
02-18-2009, 03:06 PM
215 40 on a 9 is real tame anyways so go for it
jbuckley
02-18-2009, 03:10 PM
over 9000 accidents every year due to stretched tires
awesomenick
02-18-2009, 07:14 PM
I doubt it's much safer to stretch onto a wheel with a small drop center.
But, it is easier to seat the bead on a wheel that has a one.
I have a 215/40 Toyo Proxes 4's on 17x9.5's and they have a big drop center (the less ideal looking wheel) and I haven't died yet. Just takes more pressure in the cheetah to seat the bead. I run max pressure in them. Never had a problem.
redsx13
02-19-2009, 01:21 AM
I doubt it's much safer to stretch onto a wheel with a small drop center.
But, it is easier to seat the bead on a wheel that has a one.
not really,
a small drop center doesn't make it easier to seat the bead, to seat the bead you just inflate the tire. it just makes tires a bitch to take on and off.
MisawaJason
02-19-2009, 01:30 AM
215 on a 9 isnt bad at all. you should have zero problems running that setup. Disregard all the dumb posts man
Howard92884
02-19-2009, 01:41 AM
over 9000 accidents every year due to stretched tires
60% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
MisawaJason
02-19-2009, 01:46 AM
60% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
85% on zilvia. Although some people on this site really do know what they're talking about
aoiken3
02-19-2009, 02:00 AM
85% on zilvia. Although some people on this site really do know what they're talking about
and the 15% who really know their stuff account for probably 5% of zilvia.
Teh Luckinator
02-19-2009, 02:12 AM
Stretched tires contribute to 1,536 deaths annually.
yeah check wikipedia it says so
so don't do it. put 255's on your 17x7 +40's!
Jus Skott
02-19-2009, 05:09 AM
aight... thanks everyone im satisfied
no, not really i want to see that shit on myth busters. :fruit:
awesomenick
02-19-2009, 11:12 AM
not really,
a small drop center doesn't make it easier to seat the bead, to seat the bead you just inflate the tire. it just makes tires a bitch to take on and off.
Wrong. Have you ever mounted a tire?
http://i39.tinypic.com/25evaf4.jpg
Let's say the red is where the tire sits, which wouldn't be in real life. But it works for this.
To get that tire to air up, you need to stop all the escaping air. Technically the drop center isn't what's making seating a stretched tire easier, it's the wheel design. But, if the wheel has a big enough drop center, it won't be ideal. So they're related.
The wheel on the left has a BIG drop center, so when you try to air up the tire, all the air will escape. Even with the bead blaster on the tire machine. Especially if the tire has a stiff sidewall, there's now way you could mount that tire without a cheetah/ fire/ some other trick. If you move the tire in either direction, the opposite side will have a HUGE gao where air will escape.
The wheel on the right has a small drop center, Which leaves a lot less space for air to escape from. If you move the tire over to the right, it will close the major gaps, making it easier to seat the bead.
We got a 215/40/18 onto an 18x10 without a cheetah on a wheel with a small drop center. I NEED to use it for my 215/40 on a 17x9.5 with a large drop center.
Anyways, good luck just "inflating the tire" to seat the bead on a stretched tire. It doesn't make it hard to take off either. As long as you get the bead of the tire into the drop center opposite of where the "duckhead" is (where you use the bar).
SoSideways
02-19-2009, 11:16 AM
^ Concurred.
17x9 FN01R-Cs with 215/40 FK452s took ether + lighter to finally bead. Cheetah wasn't working.
17x9.5 Work VS-KF with the same 215/40 FK452s just took a blast of air from the air compressor with a straight fitting on it (no regulating valve that would only allow air to go through when the valve is pushed back) into the valve stem, with the valve component taking out of the valve stem, to bead.
If you look at pics of the VS-KFs, they're like the wheel on the right up there, and the FN is kinda like the wheel on the left.
awesomenick
02-19-2009, 11:21 AM
Yep, generally a wheel with a large lip is easier to stretch onto.
Not always the case though.
J90lude
02-19-2009, 12:39 PM
I feel a lil bit of hostility on this thread :hide:
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