plate on top of camshafts cracked!!!!!!!

[Gordo714]

okay here is my problem and hopefully it helps others out as much at it will help me.....

there is a L shaped piece of metal that bolts on to cover the chains in between the 2 cam shafts. (to prevents them from i dont know what )thats what im trying to figure out well the thing is that it was just bouncing around making a real loud clicking noise. okay so i removed my engine cover and removed that piece walla... i thought i had solved the problem turns out that when i bolted it back up now the chains where hitting the top of the engine cover.....

so what i want to figure out is what is that L shaped piece of metal for and why are my chains hitting and causing it to snap and now they are hitting the top of my engine cover....

please help me

this is what it should look like
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/passthewire/IMG00203.jpg




here is where the L shaped plate should be bolted but the 2 bolts are still there and the plate cracked

http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/passthewire/IMG00200.jpg



here is where the chain is hitting the top of my head cover
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/passthewire/IMG00201.jpg

this is the L shaped metal and where it cracked
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/passthewire/IMG00206.jpg

this is a side shot of the L shaped metal and where they cracked
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h23/passthewire/IMG00205.jpg


please help me and bump my thread:boink:

-Art

[drftmark]

Nissan recommended taking that out, so go ahead and just remove it. There is also another one to take out but it is more of a pain to get to.

[redsx13]

yep, throw it in the trash

[Gordo714]

Alright coo so the chain won't come off or anything

[steve shadows]

are you saying it's still hitting the inside of the valve cover tho?

in this case you will need to add tension to the chain or replace the chain if it has too much slack

[Gordo714]

are you saying it's still hitting the inside of the valve cover tho?

in this case you will need to add tension to the chain or replace the chain if it has too much slack
Yeah it hits so I guess I need to tighten it up any idea how

[Ali 556]

FSM !!!!:eek2:

[The Chad]

Yeah man it's just a chain guide. Both my 240's broke off. According to Nissan it is a non replaceable part, (throw away). If the chain has too much slack in it, it might be time for a new timing chain tensioner and chain too.

[toointoxicated62]

toss it, its worthless :] i dont have the guilds on my motor

[Gordo714]

alright thanks guys im going to toss the part and eventually recalibrate the timing chain.

[redsx13]

Yeah it hits so I guess I need to tighten it up any idea how

buy a new tensioner, if the doesn't work you have to buy a new chain

[The Chad]

DO not "recalibrate" anything, do it right and get a new tensioner and fresh chain. they tend to expand over time.

[Gordo714]

DO not "recalibrate" anything, do it right and get a new tensioner and fresh chain. they tend to expand over time.
i ment tighten it, alright then i look for a new tensioner and chain
does anybody recomend not driving it for now or what

[Gordo714]

i found out that my chain is a little loose and i do not have a timing gun to do this my self
so her is my question can i still drive my car around or will this lead to a bigger problem

[ro240sx]

take it to spencers.

[Gordo714]

Yeah I know this weekend

[crameur]

or you can eat some pancakes and put some butter cream on it , you know what i mean ?

[Gordo714]

or you can eat some pancakes and put some butter cream on it , you know what i mean ?
na homie i dont know what you mean

[kalypso123]

thats sounds good... with the whip cream and strawberries

[Gordo714]

i got a quote 500 bucks to change my timing belt fuuuuuuuuck
i am tripping out though because my engine still pulls and has power lose
i am just gonna drive it till it gives out SR coming soon!!!!!!!!

[ro240sx]

Is that right. So your gonna get an SR.

[Gordo714]

Yeah fool that's right!!!!!!!!!!

[The Chad]

If you can get a FSM the chain isnt that bad. Took me a weekend of dabbing at it for a few hours here and there. But try re-setting your timing if the chain isnt hitting/rubbing 1st. better than ruining your poor KA. $500 is very high since any low milage KA i've seen for sale is no more than $500, I paid $600 for a DOHC KA and Tranny from a 97' with 70k miles.

[Jus Skott]

lol the third thing i did when i first bought my car was remove that. then proceeded to throw it at my roommates younger brother. "put that shit on your slow ass honda"

[Gordo714]

If you can get a FSM the chain isnt that bad. Took me a weekend of dabbing at it for a few hours here and there. But try re-setting your timing if the chain isnt hitting/rubbing 1st. better than ruining your poor KA. $500 is very high since any low milage KA i've seen for sale is no more than $500, I paid $600 for a DOHC KA and Tranny from a 97' with 70k miles.

whats the FSM chain

[Gordo714]

lol the third thing i did when i first bought my car was remove that. then proceeded to throw it at my roommates younger brother. "put that shit on your slow ass honda"

i threw mine at my cheap ass dog ahhaha

[Jus Skott]

i threw mine at my cheap ass dog ahhaha
how'd he feel about that? :hahano:

[JRas]

.. it's a chain guide and it's not needed

[The Chad]

FSM = Factory Service Manual. They make a Chilton's/Haynes Manual look like a retarded child cast away when born at the factory. Helps you know what you are doing when repairing just about anything on your car. They are vehicle specific.

[khilgers]

I've been running without a chain guide for almost 2 years now. No problems what so ever.

[Gordo714]

any body have an estimate on how much a timing service will run me parts+labor
someone that has had this done on their KAde
thanks
i have been driving my car but i drive really slow i hate it my check oil light turns on and off
and my check engine light stays on now when i drive before it would just turn on when i put the key in. i know i am heading into some trouble just as long as i get it fixed before summer im cool not stressiong at all right now im used to these situations

[redsx13]

any body have an estimate on how much a timing service will run me parts+labor
someone that has had this done on their KAde
thanks
i have been driving my car but i drive really slow i hate it my check oil light turns on and off
and my check engine light stays on now when i drive before it would just turn on when i put the key in. i know i am heading into some trouble just as long as i get it fixed before summer im cool not stressiong at all right now im used to these situations

pull the codes from your ecu, the timing chain will not cause the car to pull a code, it also wont cause a loss of oil pressure. that may be a non-related issue.

[Gordo714]

pull the codes from your ecu, the timing chain will not cause the car to pull a code, it also wont cause a loss of oil pressure. that may be a non-related issue.

awww what are you serious
so im gonna have more problems hurting!!!!!!!!!

[let5l1de]

awww what are you serious
so im gonna have more problems hurting!!!!!!!!!

unfortunately that is possible. a quick scenario can be that the upper timing chain tensioner is so effed in an open position that the oil pressure is severely dropping to dangerously low levels.

Just a thought tho... You should take it to a mechanic for a real diagnosis of your situation.

~mario

[Gordo714]

thanks mario

[Ruby240]

If you are anything competent with sockets and wrenches, you can check your tensioner. Sometimes they will get stuck. There is Raines' writeup, I think he is on here... Step by Step with pictures.

THE GARAGE GUIDES - Fixing the Timing Chain Rattle (http://garage.projectraine.com/content_guides/240_chainrattle/chainrattle.html)

[Gordo714]

If you are anything competent with sockets and wrenches, you can check your tensioner. Sometimes they will get stuck. There is Raines' writeup, I think he is on here... Step by Step with pictures.

THE GARAGE GUIDES - Fixing the Timing Chain Rattle (http://garage.projectraine.com/content_guides/240_chainrattle/chainrattle.html)

this is perfect thanks

have to get this done this weekend:bash:

[projectRDM]

any body have an estimate on how much a timing service will run me parts+labor
someone that has had this done on their KAde
thanks
i have been driving my car but i drive really slow i hate it my check oil light turns on and off
and my check engine light stays on now when i drive before it would just turn on when i put the key in. i know i am heading into some trouble just as long as i get it fixed before summer im cool not stressiong at all right now im used to these situations

There is no check oil light on a 240SX. Read the owner's manual, clown, it's a low oil pressure light. If it's coming on your oil pressure is dropping below 8psi, at anything besides idle you're shredding bearings. Quit driving it.

A chain job is quoted at 6hours labor from most places, so add that up.

[didderson]

Pull off the upper timing chain cover (KA? I need to L2read) and get at the tensioner.

If it springs back still just clean it up w/ carb cleaner and wd-40 to make sure it more easily squishes and rebounds. worked for me when I had my ka.

[Jus Skott]

Pull off the upper timing chain cover (KA? I need to L2read) and get at the tensioner.

If it springs back still just clean it up w/ carb cleaner and wd-40 to make sure it more easily squishes and rebounds. worked for me when I had my ka.

lol uploaded old vid for em. :snoop:

freeing up a gunked chain tentioner Video by jus skott® - MySpace Video (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=53066137)