View Full Version : Lesson: How to learn to drift in a rwd car...........
Banshee
03-03-2003, 09:54 AM
So those of you that know how, what would you suggest for someone who wants to learn how to do it?
Pointers? How did you start off learning?
BTW, I am going to attempt to get some drift video's of my stang during my "attempts". LoL.:p
Stee Flo
03-03-2003, 10:34 AM
Put your flame suit on banshee, I feel the flames comin on. Try going to a drift event.
Banshee
03-03-2003, 10:39 AM
We have drift events in the nova area? do0d! lol...i never knew that. Thought it was more of a west coast thing.:rolleyes:
Dousan_PG
03-03-2003, 10:39 AM
buy an LSD
nuff said
Zemus
03-03-2003, 10:42 AM
Here is what you do
Go to Zilvia.net
Then go to links
Then go to Drift sites
Each i think has a "How To Drift"
Read, Drift, Dont Die
Banshee
03-03-2003, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Oni
Here is what you do
Go to Zilvia.net
Then go to links
Then go to Drift sites
Each i think has a "How To Drift"
Read, Drift, Dont Die
Doh, I looked through there once but saw mostly 240 related sites. Guess I didn't look hard enough.:(
Bbandit
03-03-2003, 11:27 AM
turn the steering wheel until the rear end loose traction
pull e brake
do not counter steer
hit a tree
excelent drift
:)
Originally posted by Bbandit
turn the steering wheel until the rear end loose traction
pull e brake
do not counter steer
hit a tree
excelent drift
:)
LMAO!!!!! Hit a tree.... hahahahahahaha... kinda like the video that was on a post a few months ago with the idiot driving a corolla... hit the curb and lost an axle. ;)
Bbandit
03-03-2003, 11:32 AM
Hahahahaha
yes sir thats the one im talking about :D
plus a bit of sarcasm...
oh wait... what was the question? drift for rwd? awww man i thought you were asking drift for fwd:p
Stee Flo
03-03-2003, 11:46 AM
there arent really any events in nova, but there are some here on the east coast. I think there is one coming up in jersey.
KiDyNomiTe
03-03-2003, 11:47 AM
Most people say first LSD, which really helps with breaking traction and all that mumbo jumbo.
First learn the different types of drifting, then I guess go about it your own way, many people drift differently, but jus do it on a track and also make sure they allow you to do it, so don't go to an autocross event and try drifting (I hear they dislike it), and don't go to a track without asking if they allow it.
Anyway try and search too, this has been asked quite a few times, I myself don't know how to drift, but I do in Gran Turismo 3 :D.
Originally posted by Bbandit
Hahahahaha
yes sir thats the one im talking about :D
plus a bit of sarcasm...
oh wait... what was the question? drift for rwd? awww man i thought you were asking drift for fwd:p
i gotta find the link to that... when i go home tonight i am going to save that one to my comp... what was just great... BAM no axle.
lets all go out and get FWD so we can drift like that. :cool:
Wait let me whip out GT3 and pretend on that first. ;)
Banshee
03-03-2003, 11:49 AM
Originally posted by KiDyNomiTe
Most people say first LSD, which really helps with breaking traction and all that mumbo jumbo.
My car comes standard with LSD.:p
Bwuahaha.
240's still rock. =)
Dousan_PG
03-03-2003, 11:51 AM
Originally posted by Banshee
My car comes standard with LSD.:p
Bwuahaha.
240's still rock. =)
LSD or VLSD?
there's a HUGE difference. i've tried both.
VLSD drifting is no fun, especially if you drift fast and hard.
Originally posted by KiDyNomiTe
Most people say first LSD, which really helps with breaking traction and all that mumbo jumbo.
First learn the different types of drifting, then I guess go about it your own way, many people drift differently, but jus do it on a track and also make sure they allow you to do it, so don't go to an autocross event and try drifting (I hear they dislike it), and don't go to a track without asking if they allow it.
Anyway try and search too, this has been asked quite a few times, I myself don't know how to drift, but I do in Gran Turismo 3 :D.
That is what i'm saying!! lol...
Or if you live around a snow infested area... you can have fun with that ;)
Banshee
03-03-2003, 11:59 AM
Originally posted by dousan36
LSD or VLSD?
there's a HUGE difference. i've tried both.
VLSD drifting is no fun, especially if you drift fast and hard.
Good question do0d. I'm really not sure. I just know that both wheels spin instead of just one(duh). What exactly is the difference, maybe I could tell you which I have.
Bbandit
03-03-2003, 11:59 AM
yes yes
drifting in GT3 rocks!
you dont have to worry about getting new tires everytime
oh.. and if you hit something.. your car will stay clean and unharmed LOL
Foxcolt
03-03-2003, 12:06 PM
wow
AKADriver
03-03-2003, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by dousan36
LSD or VLSD?
there's a HUGE difference. i've tried both.
VLSD drifting is no fun, especially if you drift fast and hard.
American car LSDs are usually very soft clutch-type diffs.
Originally posted by Bbandit
yes yes
drifting in GT3 rocks!
you dont have to worry about getting new tires everytime
oh.. and if you hit something.. your car will stay clean and unharmed LOL
New tires :sigh: I had to get some a few months ago...
MikeFD3S
03-03-2003, 12:25 PM
Mustangs are actually a pretty good car to use for drifting. With solid rear axle, and LSDs being significantly cheaper...it would be a great chassis to start with. It already has more than enough power.... bring it! Just get some decent rubber and some minor suspension work and you're good to go.
*flame suit on*
Older Corvettes might also be a pretty decent drifters
Dousan_PG
03-03-2003, 12:33 PM
i would love to see some domestics out there drifting!
Foxcolt
03-03-2003, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by MikeFD3S
Mustangs are actually a pretty good car to use for drifting. With solid rear axle, and LSDs being significantly cheaper...it would be a great chassis to start with. It already has more than enough power.... bring it! Just get some decent rubber and some minor suspension work and you're good to go.
*flame suit on*
Older Corvettes might also be a pretty decent drifters
a while back I tried to take a friends mustang out. Lowest trim I think. Either way I had a real hard time with it due to excessive body roll. I literally had to wrestle the car back into a straight line cause all the weight would cause it to spin out everytime I tried to get the back end out.
Might have been my lack of skill though:eek:
ny_jee
03-03-2003, 12:46 PM
I'd love to drift a domestic...
Here are my experiences...
Open Diff: Great for beginers, when one do get an LSD, he/she'll appreciate it more. W/ one wheel spinning as fast as you allow it, it's hard not to lose traction. Drawbacks, unpredictable.
VLSD: Unless you are really on a budget and have no income, do w/o... I wanted to save money and went w/ it, it sure was a great improvement from open diff. But it's really slow...
Real LSD: I have yet have one on mine, but I've driven other ppl's cars w/ them. I don't care if you want to drift/grip or whatever you want to do w/ your car, it's one thing you won't regret.
How to drift...
Try different techniques, there is no one technique that's gonna work for all drift. And for any drift, there are plenty techniques to use. Find one that's most comfortable w/ you, and get use to it... One day, even when you are really good, you'll find that BASIC stuff are VERY important.
MikeFD3S
03-03-2003, 12:53 PM
i loved how on the back window of the Porsche 944 at the Drift Showoff, it had "NO E-BRAKE" written on the back kekekeke
AKADriver
03-03-2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by MikeFD3S
Mustangs are actually a pretty good car to use for drifting. With solid rear axle, and LSDs being significantly cheaper...it would be a great chassis to start with. It already has more than enough power.... bring it! Just get some decent rubber and some minor suspension work and you're good to go.
Think more than minor suspension work, otherwise, yep.
Mustang suspension geometry is... not so good. It's all correctable, the aftermarket has taken care of everything. Bolt-in tubular front crossmembers with revised geometry, control arms, etc.
Stee Flo
03-03-2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Foxcolt
a while back I tried to take a friends mustang out. Lowest trim I think. Either way I had a real hard time with it due to excessive body roll. I literally had to wrestle the car back into a straight line cause all the weight would cause it to spin out everytime I tried to get the back end out.
Might have been my lack of skill though:eek: I would think a mustang isnt good for drifting. Its weight distribution isnt great; its heavy in the front and it will be a bit too tail happy to hold a drift without spinning out.
Dousan_PG
03-03-2003, 02:56 PM
I would think a mustang isnt good for drifting. Its weight distribution isnt great; its heavy in the front and it will be a bit too tail happy to hold a drift without spinning out.
you could say the same things about Chasers and Soarers then. heavy in front (2jz) and light in back
what about 4 door cars (like MarkIIs and so forth)
comes down to the driver, not the car
Sniper-X
03-03-2003, 03:03 PM
If you're just beginning to learn how to drift one of the best ways to start in my opinion is to start from a dead stop. Rev the engine to about 5K, turn the wheels, pop the clutch and the practice counter steering the car from that position. Get used to the feeling of counter steering. Then when you're used to that, start SLOW and practice techniques such as the clutch kick, and e brake (remember to clutch in when you pull the ebrake).
check out Driftsession (http://www.driftsession.com) for more information.
Fastback180
03-03-2003, 03:07 PM
Why don't you go to the uhrport and try the right hand turn onto Observation Dr. Or you can press your luck and go for the 15mph turn on Bethlehem Rd. The Bethlehem drift has gotten the best of us. I know I've had a minor wreck on it, someone else I know has had a big wreck on it and had to get another 240, and then a friend w/an FD has taken a little spill on it too. But yeah...Drifting is easy in my ride...
FYI, the "P" in "RPS13" designates SR20DET. Otherwise your car is an RMS13 or RHS13
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Originally posted by Oni
Here is what you do
Go to Zilvia.net
Then go to links
Then go to Drift sites
Each i think has a "How To Drift"
Read, Drift, Dont Die
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Doh, I looked through there once but saw mostly 240 related sites. Guess I didn't look hard enough.
its a site for 240s not mustangs and if you dont want info that pertains to 240 why are you asking a bunch of people that drift 240s? and because this has nothing to do with 240s it belongs in off topic, sadly im not an administrator and connot move it
SilviaDriver
03-03-2003, 03:49 PM
douson36, do you think VLSD is a good mod towards drifting? as a beginner learning how. Lindsay is guiding me thru this and says VLSD is good before you go big and get LSD. soo..im guessing i made a right decision? open diff. sucks
Dousan_PG
03-03-2003, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by SilviaDriver
douson36, do you think VLSD is a good mod towards drifting? as a beginner learning how. Lindsay is guiding me thru this and says VLSD is good before you go big and get LSD. soo..im guessing i made a right decision? open diff. sucks
blah!!!!
talk with NY_jee about VLSDs. he's got one and wishes he saved for real LSD
dorifto..haha..he used open diff. he has a nismo sss on order like me. he's never used vlsd and never will
driftingpanda (black w/ gold wheels)-nismo 2 way lsd
adey (mismatched front, red car)-nismo 2 way
dont waste your money w/ VLSD!!! you'll only live to upgrade it and regret you had a real LSD. make sure you go clutch lsd too, 2 way!
i got a mechnical 2 way and i want clutch. fast engagement and solid.
in japan they virtually give VLSDs away, its junk. that's why when you get subframes from japan, many have true LSDs in them. LSD is very common upgrade for ANY drifter (as in upgraded BEFORE suspension). dont waste time w/ VLSD
if you go stock suspension and an open diff, get a LSD first. then the suspension. you can deal and learn how to control body roll. u cant control snap oversteer, unpredicatability and w/ a VLSD you cant control is SLOW CRAPPY engagement
that's my opinion.
andrave
03-03-2003, 04:02 PM
my recommendation is that you get some stock steelies with bald tires on it.
When I first got my car it had completely bald tires on the back and good tires up front. I put the good ones in the back and bought new sticky BFG rubber for the front and it would drift like there was no tomorrow. I put a front strut tower brace on and it tightened up the handling and made it closer to a 4w drift, and then I got new tires for the rear too and now it just transitions from understeer to oversteer.
I'm hoping to get a VLSD, ca18det, and a spring/shock package, and start sliding sideways again. mY stock ka24E just doesn't have the power, it bogs when you try and drift it.
MikeFD3S
03-03-2003, 04:37 PM
im going to have to disagree with the whole 'bald in back, grippy in front' train of thought. I think it's better with grippy/semi grippy tires on all four wheels. Im at work so I can't type the whole reasoning why it isn't suggested.
Basically with crap in back its easy to break them loose...but thats it. Controlling it is another matter.
Dousan_PG
03-03-2003, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by MikeFD3S
im going to have to disagree with the whole 'bald in back, grippy in front' train of thought. I think it's better with grippy/semi grippy tires on all four wheels. Im at work so I can't type the whole reasoning why it isn't suggested.
Basically with crap in back its easy to break them loose...but thats it. Controlling it is another matter.
ACK! you beat me to it
crap tires SUCK. i used them at 2 events and i hated it!!!
when you want to grip you just slip. when you want to drift more likely to snap over and harder to control the drift
i use FM901s all around. i break when i want to and grip when i want to.
when you want to go higher speeds (50mph+ drifts) you dont want crap tires back there. at least not on a s13 w/ my set up..that is how it is for me
Drifting is all about traction
ny_jee
03-03-2003, 05:46 PM
Originally posted by dousan36
talk with NY_jee about VLSDs. he's got one and wishes he saved for real LSD
I thought I posted earlier about how I felt about the VLSD... Anyways, it'll do the job(sorta...). If you aren't seriously going to do some track/autoX/drift, then yes, VLSD will be fine(probably save you from the rainy days too). But if you'll be doing anything other than daily drive, then save up!
Banshee
03-03-2003, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by DMC
its a site for 240s not mustangs and if you dont want info that pertains to 240 why are you asking a bunch of people that drift 240s? and because this has nothing to do with 240s it belongs in off topic, sadly im not an administrator and connot move it
Thats right chief, I've been reading this site for months now and haven't realized that its not for stangs. OMG. Try finding a site that pertains to drifting stangs. Good Luck.:rolleyes:
The reason I asked was because obviously 240's are cool drifting cars and it seems that most people here know what it takes to do just that. So it seemed logical to ask people who know what they are doing. Smurf.
SilviaDriver
03-03-2003, 06:48 PM
Originally posted by dousan36
blah!!!!
talk with NY_jee about VLSDs. he's got one and wishes he saved for real LSD
dorifto..haha..he used open diff. he has a nismo sss on order like me. he's never used vlsd and never will
driftingpanda (black w/ gold wheels)-nismo 2 way lsd
adey (mismatched front, red car)-nismo 2 way
dont waste your money w/ VLSD!!! you'll only live to upgrade it and regret you had a real LSD. make sure you go clutch lsd too, 2 way!
i got a mechnical 2 way and i want clutch. fast engagement and solid.
in japan they virtually give VLSDs away, its junk. that's why when you get subframes from japan, many have true LSDs in them. LSD is very common upgrade for ANY drifter (as in upgraded BEFORE suspension). dont waste time w/ VLSD
if you go stock suspension and an open diff, get a LSD first. then the suspension. you can deal and learn how to control body roll. u cant control snap oversteer, unpredicatability and w/ a VLSD you cant control is SLOW CRAPPY engagement
that's my opinion.
i went with VLSD, becuz im juss starting to drift..or learn how..in the past i was doing drag and now decided to try something new. and i went with VLSD becuz wat if i try to drift and end up not liking it..then the VLSD might come in handy at a drag strip. that is why. i guess my decision was not a good one..but if i do end up liking it..i still gotta practice before i end up buying something big time.
a nismo 2way is a mechnical 2 way correct? who makes clutch 2way?
DRO916
03-03-2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by LoCo
LMAO!!!!! Hit a tree.... hahahahahahaha... kinda like the video that was on a post a few months ago with the idiot driving a corolla... hit the curb and lost an axle. ;)
what video??? can somebody post it or give me a link to that thread?
nismo_sr20_wut
03-03-2003, 07:01 PM
The way i was told was when entering a corner shift down to a lower gear while slowing, then while entering the turn rev up the engine with the clutched pushed in, release the clutch while beginning the turn, this will cause your tail to spin out then the rest from there you have to learn on your own from experience, BE VERY CAREFUL THOUGH! Once your tail comes out and you lose traction in all four wheels its hard to keep control, what you should do is go to an empty parking lot, place a cone in the center of the lot, start doing circles around the cone then pop out the tail and try keeping the nose of your car pointed towards the cone, if you can keep the nose of your car pointed towards the cone and your moving around it then that would mean your drifting :D
ny_jee
03-03-2003, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by SilviaDriver
i went with VLSD, becuz im juss starting to drift..or learn how..in the past i was doing drag and now decided to try something new. and i went with VLSD becuz wat if i try to drift and end up not liking it..then the VLSD might come in handy at a drag strip. that is why. i guess my decision was not a good one..but if i do end up liking it..i still gotta practice before i end up buying something big time.
a nismo 2way is a mechnical 2 way correct? who makes clutch 2way?
As far as liking it, Dousan and I were talking about starting a DA. Drifting Anonymous, because we are all addicted and suffering from some withdrawal rite at this moment. Of course, I've heard ppl not liking it(most of them couldn't get it...). As far drag racing on VLSD, it's still not a very good choice. Read up on the way VLSD and other types of LSD's work. VLSD was used on production car b/c some ppl want the performance but don't want to lose ride comfort. That should give you enough hint why it isn't so good if you do racing of any kind. Trakc/AutoX/Drift/Drag for that matter. If you've already bought one, then go ahead and enjoy it and milk it for all you can. If you haven't then don't. Nismo 2ways that you usually see are gear type, the Nismo SSS that Dousan speak of are clutch type. A couple companies off the top of my head: KAAZ, Cusco, Tomei(makes both mechanical and clutch), Nismo(SSS), ATS. There are more Japanese companies out there I am sure, but those are the ones I've seen sold stateside.
yea i wasnt tryin to be a dick im just saying you found sites that told you how to drift a 240 , but you said those didnt work but than u asked guys that are gonna tell you how they drift there 240s, but i guess you prolly wouldnt get help at a stang site
SilviaDriver
03-03-2003, 07:18 PM
at first, i was thinking of buying either a Cusco 2way, or NISMO 2way[jspec]..but i was short of money and i juss lost a job. so saving up for a real LSD would be a long time. so the money i have left i went ahead and bought the VLSD.
i plan on doing some serious drifting. i live up in norcal and waiting to be transfered down to socal for skool [UCR business], while i wait to be transfered which is like 2 yrs..i was thinking of practicing up here and when its time to move down for skool i would attend events down there. i wanna see u run douson36!!!! soo basically after all my rambling..towards the future wat is your opinion on what LSD i should go with? again im thinking of some serious drifting..like wat douson36 does
nismo SSS is the 1.5way 2 way adj correct? how much is that? ive heard of it, seen a site of it long ago but it was in japanese. any info?
Dousan_PG
03-03-2003, 07:24 PM
yeah its 1.5 and 2 way you can adjust it. it has more plate then the standard nismo 2 way. it has a 40% increase in egagement.
Nismo SSS is the same one Koguchi, Nomuken, Kazama, etc all use on the D1 cars. i believe Taniguchi used that one was well, but i forget. i know the previous 3 do use it currently
yo, be down here for April 6th event! RS*R event!!!!!
i'll give you a ride in my car and all that if passengers are allowed and try and give you some tips of stuff ive learned and things im learning. most drivers wont mind if you ask for a ride too, we areall pretty laid back and cool, so dont have any fear to ask, just bring your OWN helmet! im still learning but getting better. working on going up to third gear its scary going 80 mph sideway initiations!! hahha
my opinion: save up and get a Kaaz or Nismo. i am 100% sure you wont regret it if you are seroius for drifting. you can still do A LOT on the VLSD!!!! dont think to upgrade it right away. VLSD is better then OSD (open 'slip' differential=open diff hahaha)
ny_jee
03-03-2003, 07:30 PM
Originally posted by SilviaDriver
at first, i was thinking of buying either a Cusco 2way, or NISMO 2way[jspec]..but i was short of money and i juss lost a job. so saving up for a real LSD would be a long time. so the money i have left i went ahead and bought the VLSD.
i plan on doing some serious drifting. i live up in norcal and waiting to be transfered down to socal for skool [UCR business], while i wait to be transfered which is like 2 yrs..i was thinking of practicing up here and when its time to move down for skool i would attend events down there. i wanna see u run douson36!!!! soo basically after all my rambling..towards the future wat is your opinion on what LSD i should go with? again im thinking of some serious drifting..like wat douson36 does
nismo SSS is the 1.5way 2 way adj correct? how much is that? ive heard of it, seen a site of it long ago but it was in japanese. any info?
I really don't want to answer this, b/c Dousan always rub it in my face. Anyways, yes, the SSS are adj'able. However, you would need to take the internal out to do that, so better decide which way you want it b4 putting it in. I know they are starting to hold drift events up in norcal. Battle Version had one at Thunderhill, Alex from Battle Version is really good drifter and from what I heard a really good instructor(some ppl can drive but can't teach for sh*t). Check out club4ag.com, they are the one that holds the event down here in Socal, great ppl and staff. They have a really good relation w/ Battle Version, so when they host events, chances are they'll show up on club4ag. If you are really serious about drifting, take it out on the track. Some ppl worked really hard to get drifting in US going and having these events. Illegal drifting(anything outside the track/events) would not help in promoting drifting.
EDIT: Dang it, Dousan got in b4 I did, another chance for him to rub it in...
SilviaDriver
03-03-2003, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by dousan36
yeah its 1.5 and 2 way you can adjust it. it has more plate then the standard nismo 2 way. it has a 40% increase in egagement.
Nismo SSS is the same one Koguchi, Nomuken, Kazama, etc all use on the D1 cars. i believe Taniguchi used that one was well, but i forget. i know the previous 3 do use it currently
yo, be down here for April 6th event! RS*R event!!!!!
i'll give you a ride in my car and all that if passengers are allowed and try and give you some tips of stuff ive learned and things im learning. most drivers wont mind if you ask for a ride too, we areall pretty laid back and cool, so dont have any fear to ask, just bring your OWN helmet! im still learning but getting better. working on going up to third gear its scary going 80 mph sideway initiations!! hahha
do you have any sites on the nismo SSS? i juss search google real quick not much.mainly sites with unknown characters.
aaahhh ****..april 6th!?!? thats FREAKen great..thats the same weekend as a drag event im gonna go too..CMI [cali modified imports] up in sactown. thats freaken great..dammit i wanna see YOU run!!!! any sites on the RS*R event? ill have my friend record you and send me the tape.
when i move to socal..im gonna go against you man hahahhaha!! my dream. haha nah...but be nice to run aside you..i do wanna see u run tho. **** i wish i went to UCI/UCR
ill be down in socal on april 26 weekend for sure!!!
ill mess around with the VLSD..and learn more about clutch/mech. type LSD..then ill decide on wat to upgrade too.
if you have aim..hit me up sometime..i wanna learn more from people who do drift at events...juss look in profile
Originally quoted by ny_jee
If you are really serious about drifting, take it out on the track
yea i already know all about that stuff..when i was dragging i never street raced. i always take it to the track hence y april 6 sucks for me becuz thats RS*R event and CMI.
Dousan_PG
03-03-2003, 07:40 PM
lol
dude im not that good
Ny_jee made round 2 yesterday! he's got mad skills and drifting longer. i've only been doing this like 4 months. not that long at all. im no koguchi or even komatsu. just beginner!
go to www.nismo.co.jp for info.
ill probably be going to any upcoming nor cal events too. my family is up there as well as my best friend, and so its easy to spend the night.
SilviaDriver
03-03-2003, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by dousan36
lol
dude im not that good
Ny_jee made round 2 yesterday! he's got mad skills and drifting longer. i've only been doing this like 4 months. not that long at all. im no koguchi or even komatsu. just beginner!
go to www.nismo.co.jp for info.
ill probably be going to any upcoming nor cal events too. my family is up there as well as my best friend, and so its easy to spend the night.
4 months or 4yrs..still better than me. i still wanna see wat skills you have.
thats pretty funny that your down there..your best friend is up here...cuz my best friend is down there..and im up here haha so its easy to spend a night down there
ny_jee
03-03-2003, 09:13 PM
Originally posted by dousan36
lol
dude im not that good
Ny_jee made round 2 yesterday! he's got mad skills and drifting longer. i've only been doing this like 4 months. not that long at all. im no koguchi or even komatsu. just beginner!
go to www.nismo.co.jp for info.
ill probably be going to any upcoming nor cal events too. my family is up there as well as my best friend, and so its easy to spend the night.
Bro, don't be so modest. 4mo of drifting, you did much better compare to some of the 4yr talking.
240Stilo
03-03-2003, 10:02 PM
Hey Dousan, what do you have against mechanical LSD's? Isn't Quiafe a mechanical LSD? And from what I remember it's supposed to be good for the grip because it transfers power to the wheel with more grip. One more thing, don't the nismo and kaaz LSD's make some sort of ticking sound?
Dousan_PG
03-03-2003, 10:33 PM
mechanicalis like an upgraded VLSD. it engages faste but not fast enough of what i want. i drove my friends s13 w/ the Nismo..so jealous. i've ridden in Kaaz equipped cars, SO NICE.
clicking? your asking the WRONG person aboust streetability. icould gives a **** about that. thats a not even an issue for me. i could care less about streetability.
its a trade off. perfect for track or comfortable for street. im sort in the middle but more the the track. i'd rather be closer to the track cuz that's what i love to do. i'll get my second car soon so i'll have that astreet car...well, at laest for a while hahaha
quafe is mechanical iirc. its good for GRIP exactly. not drift. totally different. i need equal powr to BOTh wheels, not transfer. mine transfers, i know because adey told me one smokes more then other at times. i can stll do endless #s of donuts and spin on the car's front two wheels easily (without moving front, make the back go around it) but i want more power to both wheels. and i want faster engagement to iniate drifts earlier and hold them longer. i want to on and off throttle w/o losing power or giving more to one wheel.
oh yeah they both tick. the SSS is quite loud i hear nad pretty damn noisy (clunks too) hahaha..
welcome to DA life. :D
240Stilo
03-04-2003, 01:49 AM
I see....very well put old chap;)
revat619
03-04-2003, 02:19 AM
hey dousan36, does you current LSD make alot of noise? By the way, whatcha gonna do with it once you get your Nismo SSS?
.....hint....hint:D
Garage Battle
03-04-2003, 04:42 AM
leave your vehicle as it is
go to a large semi-secluded parking lot when its raining
go slow, turn and lift gas, then reapply gas and point the front wheels where u want the car to go (aka steer into the turn).
with an automatic, you'll prolly want to keep it in L1 to start. with a 5spd 2nd gear usually works well. if you turn and your front tires slide your going to fast into the turn. turn, lift gas, reapply gas.
dont forget while your drifitng to walk the steering wheel back. Once your sliding, the front tires are pointed in the direction you want the car to go. As you lift throttle to regain a straight line, make sure you turn the steering wheel back to straight along with it.
go slow, dont try to impress anyone.
Zemus
03-04-2003, 07:05 AM
My friend has a mustang.It drifts fine i guess, but to drift he has to pop it into FIRST GEAR!, if he pops it into second it doesnt nothing.
Dousan_PG
03-04-2003, 07:08 AM
Originally posted by revat619
hey dousan36, does you current LSD make alot of noise? By the way, whatcha gonna do with it once you get your Nismo SSS?
.....hint....hint:D
sell it of cousre. worth about 700ish. quiet mechanical 2 way. doesnt skip around corners too.
its for s13 though. straight bolt in. i'll post it when its ready to sell
litlespic
03-04-2003, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by Banshee
Thats right chief, I've been reading this site for months now and haven't realized that its not for stangs. OMG. Try finding a site that pertains to drifting stangs. Good Luck.:rolleyes:
The reason I asked was because obviously 240's are cool drifting cars and it seems that most people here know what it takes to do just that. So it seemed logical to ask people who know what they are doing. Smurf.
Are you the same idiot that posted on DragVa.com and it got closed becuase its the stupidest question we have heard??? want to know why no one drifts with a mustang??? ITS SUICIDE!!! you can power slide all you want, but as soon as you try to start goin fast with the power slide and still controll the direction of the car, good luck... the 5.slow's are torque'y little bastards, that will spin a tire no problem, but they are heavy and the suspension is sloppy.. and thats almost and exzageration... I thought "fastiva" said it best "i feel redumbdid for reading this.".. no offense to any of you guys, 240 rock their ass's off drifting.. but mustangs arnt the drifting type.. a mustang is a straight line car.. for a bazillion dollars they might handle as good as a 240 with the usually suspension mod's and a guy taht knows how to tune it all together... fun stuff
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