Odd S14 spindles / knuckles. Pics.

[Chernobyl]

Ok guys I've been meaning to ask this for a while:

I have a pair of brand new knuckles I got with my S14 years ago but when I was doing a 5-lug swap, the ones on the car were a little different so I ended up using those. The difference was that the ones had space for a thick washer between the spindle bolt and the bearing / hub assembly.

These ones that I have laying around aren't long enough for that washer, so the spindle nut would just thread down to the bearing face:

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/newtheory/DSC00231.jpg

I don't have a photo of the style that's on my car, but it's a 95 S14 Base...


What's the deal here? Were there two different types of S14 knuckles, or are the ones in the photo S13 units? The 5-lug hubs I had fit well on both of these. I just put them on the knuckles already on the car since it was less work.

Any ideas?

[Dousan_PG]

s14s all had the same spindles except for ABS units are a bit different i think

but the 5 lug will fit on any s14 model of spindle

that washer u are supposed to put on all hub changeovers because all hubs (s14 and s13) use that type of thick washer.

[Chernobyl]

That's the weird thing. With the spindles shown, I could put the 5 lug hub on, put the washer on, and then there wasn't enough thread to fully thread the nut in place. Did different years use different width washers / nuts...?

I really should have taken photos because this has been bothering me for a couple years.

Does the spindle I posted look normal to you?

[Dousan_PG]

looks normal to me
could be the nut size? but im not sure, i haven't changed hubs in sometime and when i do, its pretty straightforward don't really think about it.

[Chernobyl]

Yea I'm just wondering if I should cut these up and make some quick steering knuckles or use the ones on the car. Trying to minimize downtime. Thanks for your input man.

[Chernobyl]

Compare to the ones shown here:

http://okazaki-3up.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/03/30/3_004.jpg

Note the one on the far right: There is a "length of material" between the threaded portion and where the bearing rests. That is where the washer goes. The knuckles currently on my S14 have this. The ones I posted in the original post do not.

Weird.

[projectRDM]

How big are the spindle holes?

12mm - S13
14mm - S14

[Chernobyl]

Sorry it took a while... They are 14mm. So they are S14 spindles, but it's still weird that they are shorter than other photos and my other ones on the car...

[singlecamslam]

I"m bringing this thread back beacause i have the short type of spindle that is pictured at the top. And like Chernobyl said if you use that thick washer there seems to be not enough thread left. Can anyone tell me whats going on? And the weird thing is, it doesnt have a hole to put the pin in after the Nut.

[hitman]

front spindles on s14 dont use the cotter pin, the nut has flat section and so does the rod/shaft thing on the spindle and you just hammer that part of the nut in with a hammer/screw driver so it sits flat/tight against that rod/input threaded thing. thats how it locks on, not with a pin

[singlecamslam]

front spindles on s14 dont use the cotter pin, the nut has flat section and so does the rod/shaft thing on the spindle and you just hammer that part of the nut in with a hammer/screw driver so it sits flat/tight against that rod/input threaded thing. thats how it locks on, not with a pin


well that answers one question, but you can see in the pictures the size difference and you can also see that one has a hole for the cotter pin and one doesnt. Whats the deal with the shorter spindle? If i put the hub on theres not enough room for the washer.