View Full Version : Help me fix my quarter panel
vin diesel
02-02-2009, 06:38 PM
would it be possible for me to bang it out from the inside. how much would it cost to get it done(is it worth it). how well do you think it can be straightened out?
heres some pictures
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e76/vince325/240sx/IMG_3603.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e76/vince325/240sx/IMG_3601.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e76/vince325/240sx/IMG_3598.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e76/vince325/240sx/IMG_3597.jpg
n240sxfnatic
02-02-2009, 06:41 PM
shit will buff right out
!Zar!
02-02-2009, 06:41 PM
To fix the car...
http://www.geography-site.co.uk/pages/physical/coastal/images/granite_cliff.jpg
And to see that it never happens again.
http://thecia.com.au/reviews/d/images/driving-lessons-poster-0.jpg
vin diesel
02-02-2009, 06:43 PM
note: i bought the car like this. i saved it from being trashed even more
420sx
02-02-2009, 06:46 PM
unless you can find donor s14 to cut the Q panels..... or can sheet metal fabricate, which judging by your post you have NO IDEA how to do.
mandatory widebody fenders.
front and rear. otherwise it will look like shit.
you need a kit if you go with overfenders. otherwise it will look like shit.
oh and wheels to pull off widebody too. otherwise will look like shit.
and you need to repaint. otherwise it will look like shit.
and of course coilovers to with all the other items listed above. otherwise.... it will look like shit.
so its about 3-4 grand plus. otherwise it will look like shit.
drftwerks
02-02-2009, 06:54 PM
dude i like your screen name
!Zar!
02-02-2009, 07:13 PM
Not worth the time and effort.
420sx
02-02-2009, 07:18 PM
dude i like your screen name
sure is nice and functional :ddog:
murda-c
02-02-2009, 07:19 PM
similar damage on my friends car cost about 2000 to fix.
S14TEENZ
02-02-2009, 07:26 PM
damn same shit that happened to my 240.....well my buddy was a bodyman i paid about 125.00 took him several hours but he got her lookin even....
unless u get hooked up...good luck..
CrimsonRockett
02-02-2009, 07:28 PM
Overfender = Easy way out. Not to mention cheap.
Replacing quarter panel = Expensive.
If you plan on keeping that car long term, have the quarter panel replaced.
If not, go with small overfenders(30mm or something).
You can pound it out, pull it, and fill it, but it won't be worth all the time and effort.
vin diesel
02-02-2009, 07:28 PM
damn same shit that happened to my 240.....well my buddy was a bodyman i paid about 125.00 took him several hours but he got her lookin even....
unless u get hooked up...good luck..
can you ask him what he used or how he fixed it. theres a lot of dent poppers and tools and i really dont know what to use
worangejuice
02-02-2009, 07:30 PM
It will cost you about $200 ish to fix it, from people on the street.
$400 for a shop.
Overfender and such will be under $200 if you do it yourself.
But you gotta buy a welder and saw and shit.
!Zar!
02-02-2009, 07:35 PM
If he gets overfenders, he will still need someone to cut the original fender, primer it, paint the overfender and, install it.
Not to mention he needs a front fender, wheels, coilovers and, rucas.
CrimsonRockett
02-02-2009, 07:39 PM
True.
Either way, it's going to cost a lot to fix it.
I would say part it out and sell it as a rolling shell.
Tons of people like building up widebody S14's.
So, it'd be perfect for them.
silpena
02-02-2009, 07:47 PM
400 to fix at a shop thats not an accurate quote for a reputable body shop more like 2k at least. You can pull it out but if you dont know shit about body work you'll make it worse. If u were local i do it for you man but it can be done. Not sure if its a good idea to put over fenders over that. They wont line up or sit right so you will spend
alot of labor trimming and tweaking the panels on top of ur busted qp's/ Pm me and i can help u fix it. Just tips and stuff. The rest is eyes and feeling the panel.
hmm not sure what will cost more
1. message the metal and bump it out
2.put wide panels on??
lets see
average cost of body shops:
labor 65/hr
paint labor 25/hr
hazardous waste25-45.00
this is how i think a body shop would fix ur problem
option 1:
1: start on the dent from the end of the quarter panel.
2:work the other dent(by this most of will be gone just by getting the direct point impact first)
3: continue to bump the metal out by running a file or coarse paper until most of the high spots are out
4: get a torch or stud welder with a dedicated shrinking tip and shrink the metal at the end of the qp where most of the metal has stretched.
5: Da the whole panel
6: apply a lightweight body filler to repair areas
7: rough block with 80 grit then another skim coat then with 120 grit
8. Apply a lightweight polyester filler then block it with 180 grit
9:shoot primer surfacer on repair areas while feathering it out and apply a guide coat
10. block it with 220-320
11: primer seal it while feather it out
12: Blend in the paint then re-clear the whole panel
13. color sand
id say about 30 work hours and 2.5 paint hours, 1.4 color sanding hours and maybe a 25.00 hazardous waste charge
or option 2:
1: cut the whole panel out
2:sand off paint around bonding area
3:weld shut the opening in the inner quarter panel
4: apply corrosion protection
5:Apply bonding material
6:clamp and secure new panel
7: apply sound deading to underside of panel/corrosion protection
8: trim and fit new over qp's to bust qp which dont line up right
9: Apply a long hair fiber glass reinforced filler to qp and original qp
10. rough block until it matches the body lines
12: apply a short strand lightweight fiber glass body filler and block and sand with 80 grit
13. apply a regular heavy body filler and block and sand
14: apply a lightweight body filler and block and sand
15: skim it with a polyester body filler then block and sand
16: apply another skim coat until contours match
17: repeat steps up above and u get the point....
I bet u a real shop will charge more to apply wide body panels to damage panels like that. They will not warranty a good job.
around 30-45 labor hours, same for painting hours, same for color sanding, 30-35.00 for waste but what is gonna kill ya is the materials they have to use to do this.
Zero_SX
02-02-2009, 07:53 PM
unless you can find donor s14 to cut the Q panels..... or can sheet metal fabricate, which judging by your post you have NO IDEA how to do.
mandatory widebody fenders.
front and rear. otherwise it will look like shit.
you need a kit if you go with overfenders. otherwise it will look like shit.
oh and wheels to pull off widebody too. otherwise will look like shit.
and you need to repaint. otherwise it will look like shit.
and of course coilovers to with all the other items listed above. otherwise.... it will look like shit.
so its about 3-4 grand plus. otherwise it will look like shit.
thats what i was thinking, those overfenders a must.
might be worth it, depending on how much the car was bought for???
if it was dirt cheap, 3-4 grand to have a bitchin s14.
vin diesel
02-02-2009, 07:56 PM
i paid 900, but i dont know if i would want to do overfenders, its more money than just the fenders and body work
Saskacer
02-02-2009, 09:08 PM
Overfenders would be cheaper than trying to get that quarter pannel to line up right. They would just make it look semi-decent then slap on a fender and done.
whiterps13
02-02-2009, 09:35 PM
I can guarantee that it wont be $400 like somebody said.
That is a very nasty panel.
Even getting it to look halfway decent will be well over $1000.
Stop spewing bullshit people. Does anybody realize how labor intensive making that look perfect really is? Bodywork is far from cheap. Let alone -good- bodywork.
Buy overfenders.
If you dont want overfenders sell the car and start over.
whiterps13
02-02-2009, 09:36 PM
And upon second look I can see tons of rust along the door.
I wouldnt invest a dime into that car.
420sx
02-02-2009, 10:14 PM
jesus christ people
dont you understand it looks like a pile of dog shit to have overfenders by themselves. thats not a fix. can't just cut it and slap the fender on. will be another piece of shit 240, might as well leave it as it is and just drift it
Bubbles
02-02-2009, 10:23 PM
Don't prolong the inevitable.
Give in to temptation.
Wide ass overfenders, gigantic wheels, and drop it.
xbracer
02-02-2009, 10:29 PM
ouch poor car too bad you live in cleveland :sadwavey: otherwise you could just take it across the border and pay like $200 with paint to even it out
s13dan
02-02-2009, 10:32 PM
That quater isnt worth saving. If you dunno how to do metal work then fuck it. If it were my car i would replace the qauter and do it right. , or make a race car out of it. cut and rivet your way to sucess!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/S13Dan/st00pid.jpg
onepuff
02-03-2009, 12:02 AM
How bad is the rest of the car? Any rust underneath? Brand new qp will run $450-500. I would figure another $500 for misc things to get it put on if you do it yourself. If the rest of the car is solid and you don't need to drive it right away i would say go for it. If you only paid $900 for it and if you REALLY want this car then do it. I'm in Garfield so if you do it and need some help pm me. My pops has a welder and tons of tools too. If it comes out nice you've got a solid S14 for around $2900.
Bubbles
02-03-2009, 09:43 AM
i paid 900, but i dont know if i would want to do overfenders, its more money than just the fenders and body work
Then you're still left with a stock car. If you eventually change it the money spent on replacing stuff will be wasted.
might as well leave it as it is and just drift it
Pretty good idea. Have someone weld the diff and drive it to hell and back.
Offroad style.
Matej
02-03-2009, 10:01 AM
It's not so bad, I didn't even notice the dent.
WIKID S4TEEN
02-03-2009, 10:03 AM
Mr. Diesel,
ask yourself this....
Q) Am I serious about the car (long tem)?
If no, do what Zar said (down a cliff).
If yes, don't be cheap. SAVE $$ and....
1) replace panel
2) get fenders
It's YOUR car. do it right. do it once. = happiness:wiggle:
brndck
02-03-2009, 10:07 AM
i vote dont fix it. make it a missle car.
ericcastro
02-03-2009, 10:30 AM
It will cost you about $200 ish to fix it, from people on the street.
$400 for a shop.
Overfender and such will be under $200 if you do it yourself.
But you gotta buy a welder and saw and shit.
Your Fucking high dude.
Turn in your premie membership.
You've been living with the boys to long over there in WestHollywood :ghey::keke:
i vote dont fix it. make it a missle car.
Yeah, if you wanna drift, then dont waste time fixing. You gonna fuck it up again.
Bodykit, over fenders and a shit load of zipties.
Have fun!!! :)
BTW, if your car has rust like the door shows, then its not worth fixing a 1/4 panel, cause the rest of the car is fucked.
And I wouldn't say you "saved" the car. It not a fucking endangered species. they are a dime a dozen and the fucked up ones should be sent to the yard, not kept in circulation so some other poor kid can try and "save" it next!
YoungGun
02-03-2009, 10:40 AM
Pops a dent would take that out.
s13.dark1
02-03-2009, 10:54 AM
ok get a studd welder dont put holes in it. pull out as much as humanly possible 3 thin layers of filler/bondo sand sand sand if it came out really bad over fender!!
lost_generation
02-03-2009, 11:08 AM
your best bet(other than getting a new quarter) is to weld a few tabs on it(1/4 thick).. weld it onto the quarter in 1 spot at a time, drill a big hole in it and use your buddy's truck/atv/ext and pull on it until it comes out a bunch, then move to the next spot and do the same thing... because there is no other way other than to put a new 1/4 on
FRoSt415
02-03-2009, 12:46 PM
If you can get access to the tools i say fix it if not do what everyone else does and get over fenders. Personally i would fix it. Just bang it with a mallet as mush as you can to get it somewhat there. Then grind down and clean the area and apply bondo. then sand down with 120 grit to desired level. Then apply more bondo and sand down with 180 then apply final layer of bondo and sand don with 220 grit. Paint with primer then sand down with 400 apply spot primer or high build primer, and then paint with base wait 20 minutes paint with clear done. If you feel you can do this and can get these tools do so if not then dont attempt.
!Zar!
02-03-2009, 03:18 PM
jesus christ people
dont you understand it looks like a pile of dog shit to have overfenders by themselves. thats not a fix. can't just cut it and slap the fender on. will be another piece of shit 240, might as well leave it as it is and just drift it
Um...
This is zilvia.
Since when has something like common sense stopped someone from doing some stupid shit?
OP obviously has no money because he bought that car in the first place.
So chances are he doesn't have money to fix it in the first place.
Now that he has wasted all his money on it he's pretty much screwed into either driving it as is or fixing it in a horrible fashion.
If I were op I'd only drive that thing at the track just so I could give a shit less about crashing it.
But at sixteen I doubt that would happen for him.
Let us all pour one for the OP and his horrible decision...
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2414/2496112532_cf9b82fa05.jpg
SlideWell
02-03-2009, 03:31 PM
1) order a new quarter panel from Nissan, cut the old one out, weld the new one in.
2) go widebody
3) get a new shell cuz that one looks rusty poo
Freddy
02-03-2009, 03:36 PM
i got quoted 2500$ cnd to fix and paint the whole car black with similar damage
vin diesel
02-03-2009, 03:45 PM
the only rust is on the door. and its just that spot. all i need to do is get a drivers side fender and fix the QP and the ext. would be perfect(well almost the front lip is cracked)
brunswick240
02-03-2009, 03:48 PM
I forgot everyone on zilvia is such a hardass gangsta with shit tons of money. simple question and everyone goes nuts because hes only 16 and has no money and wants to make a 900 s14 into something decent. look in the fuckin mirror, remember back to when you were fuckin 16, then kick yourself in the ass.
G35ttbaconboy
02-03-2009, 04:11 PM
Ok get a piece of 2x4 wood and a hammer, idk how that car is but for my s13 it has a space u can fit it in. Ok and just hit the wood with a hammer try to get it straight direct contact is better, and it should pop out mostly. cheap way bondo and idk what to tell u about color. But thats the best solution look at my own yea people will say it looks like shit but still not done.
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/g35ttbaconboy/HPIM0197.jpg
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/g35ttbaconboy/HPIM0206.jpg
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/g35ttbaconboy/HPIM0210.jpg
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/g35ttbaconboy/HPIM0230.jpg
!Zar!
02-03-2009, 04:13 PM
I forgot everyone on zilvia is such a hardass gangsta with shit tons of money. simple question and everyone goes nuts because hes only 16 and has no money and wants to make a 900 s14 into something decent. look in the fuckin mirror, remember back to when you were fuckin 16, then kick yourself in the ass.
When I was sixteen I wasn't stupid enough to buy a car that needs more body work than the car is worth.
Guess I had good insight? Something that people don't have anymore I guess.
If he doesn't have money, then maybe he should save it? But fuck, that makes too much sense. That's the whole reason we are in a recession in the first place. Because people were too fucking stupid to plan their money out.
So let me look in a mirror and see what I had at sixteen regarding my 240... I had zbrakes, kts coils, full spl links, du luck braces, 5 lug... silvia front (whoo whoo!), a STRAIGHT BODY and some other shit.
All while working a pretty crappy job.
It all depends on how stupid you are with your money. I wasn't making a whole bunch of money when I was younger, but I was DAMN sure I would make the best of it.
Buy nice, don't buy twice.
G35ttbaconboy
02-03-2009, 04:17 PM
Ok but when ur 16 all u want is a 240 to slide around with. Also i have learned when times are hard u cheap out im sorry some of u guys are so rich u have money out the ass. But some don't. SORRY FOR BEING POOR
!Zar!
02-03-2009, 04:23 PM
The smart man who is poor saves his money and keeps his eye on the price.
The stupid man who is poor foolishly spends his money and cries about being poor.
Sorry for you being dumb.
I wasn't even arguing with you. I don't recall quoting you? Honestly, I amend the work you did to your car yourself.
But crying about my posts just means you claim to be poor.
There is a difference between being rich/poor and being smart/dumb.
Don't get it twisted.
vin diesel
02-03-2009, 06:55 PM
hey, has anyone had those paintless dent removal company's work on their car?
i was wondering how much they usually run, i saw some videos on youtube and some people got out large dents. and G35ttbaconboy (http://zilvia.net/f/members/g35ttbaconboy.html) that looks pretty good.
420sx
02-03-2009, 07:31 PM
Zar is right.
and also, there is no need to apologize for being poor. apologize for being lazy. get an extra job.
being 16 unless you are me, you most likely live with your parents. use that to the advantage, get a job! you dont pay rent so you can have a kick ass car.
CrimsonRockett
02-03-2009, 07:58 PM
Being 16 doesn't mean you have to be cheap/poor either.
You have ZERO responsibilities at that point.
Back when I was 16, I bought this, cash.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v315/XxXxXAtreyuXxXxX/1989%20Nissan%20240sx/100_2291.jpg
$2,500.
Yeah, it took forever to save up.
No, Mommy and Daddy didn't pitch in for it.
OP, part that car out.
With the money you can make out of parting it, you can buy yourself a stock S13 or possibly a stock S14 in WAY better condition than that one.
Think of it this way...
5-lug = $400
Motor = $500
Wheels = $150
I parted out an S14 that was missing some stuff and made well over $3,000 off of it.
You can easily do the same.
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/g35ttbaconboy/HPIM0230.jpg
Kiss that body line goodbye.
Not to mention that's crappy body filler and WILL fall apart easily with time.
Also, the last thing you want is a TON of Bondo on a car.
Thumbs up to you for at least trying, but there's better ways of fixing dents than a hammer, 2x4, and Bondo stuff from Autozone/Pep Boys/etc.
vin diesel
02-03-2009, 08:04 PM
not going to part it out, not getting overfenders. i am going to fix it or get it fixed. i am not in a hurry
ILoveMyRHS13
02-03-2009, 08:08 PM
Ha! That ain't shit. Throw some overfenders on it and be done with it. That's what I'm doing.
BustedS13
02-03-2009, 08:10 PM
where were your parents when you bought that busted piece of shit, seriously
silpena
02-03-2009, 08:18 PM
its not hard to save that car. Its not as expensive as most of you guys think. Its just fucking thin metal that u can move around easily. God dammit ppl! stop giving this guy stupid advice on how to fix it. Like hitting it with a mallet. Mallet are not made for the soft metal on our panels. Slapping on body filler is not the answer too. That isnt fixing it Its just masking it for a short time. Wtf is it with u guys..... I allready pm'ed him on what to do to fix it. All u need is a set of body hammer(cheap) a basic set of dollys(cheap) a stud welder(can be bought cheap) a metal grinder(cheap) a mini torch and some water to shrink the metal. Most of it is time and labor. MAterials are cheap.
Stop bashing on him becuase hes 16. Not all of us can buy nice cars at 16. PLus its 2009, these days there are too many busted up 240's that a good decent one is expensive.
Let be positive and stay on the topic and give advice on how to fix it. If you have no experience or idea on how to properly fix it then dont say anything. Keep it in your head. He asked for the best way not the cheapest, most ghetto way to fix it. Ive only seen 4 ppl post in here who know what they are looking at.
BustedS13
02-03-2009, 08:22 PM
blah blah blah it's not HIIIIS FAAAUUIULLLLT HE'S 16 blah blah blah
if you're 16, you can't fucking drive. so you should be buying a fucking sports car. especially a project one. dude should have bought something economical, sensible, and cheap. econo ford.
cheerleaders get to drive the nice cars in high school because daddy's a sucker. guys should be driving piles of shit because they need to learn how to drive before they wreck something decent. which is kind of what i think vin diesel here did, and isn't admitting.
silpena
02-03-2009, 08:40 PM
wtf are you talking about? he never wrecked it and showed that he cant drive. Doesn't matter if your 16, 25, 45, 70 years old. If your dumb ass on wheels you are a dumb ass in your whole life.
you can still wreck a economical car like a ford or hondas. He didn't even spend much money. He did the right thing. He bought a car for cheap and he can build responsibility as an adult and fix it him self. Out of his pocket and time. His parents were probably busy taking car of their own shit. I can fix that for about 300.00 why? because i am a body man. Like i said its all labor and time which he has stated he has.
He is not in a rush like most asses here who slap on wide body panels and call it day. Give him credit for doing it right. Fuck his age. This is about body work not his age or accusing him of being a terrible sensless tennage driver.
vin diesel
02-03-2009, 09:00 PM
where were your parents when you bought that busted piece of shit, seriously
my dad was was with me and my brother when i bought it. and im trying to fix my car. thats why in the title i said "help me fix my qp" not help me put a overfender on my car and have a shitty qp behind it. i am asking for some advice on fixing quarted panels. only 10% of these posts are actually helpful
BustedS13
02-03-2009, 09:18 PM
my dad was was with me and my brother when i bought it. and im trying to fix my car. thats why in the title i said "help me fix my qp" not help me put a overfender on my car and have a shitty qp behind it. i am asking for some advice on fixing quarted panels. only 10% of these posts are actually helpful
why didn't you research body work before you bought it
why did your dad and brother think it was a good idea to buy a totaled car
BustedS13
02-03-2009, 09:20 PM
Ok get a piece of 2x4 wood and a hammer, idk how that car is but for my s13 it has a space u can fit it in. Ok and just hit the wood with a hammer try to get it straight direct contact is better, and it should pop out mostly. cheap way bondo and idk what to tell u about color. But thats the best solution look at my own yea people will say it looks like shit but still not done.
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/g35ttbaconboy/HPIM0197.jpg
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/g35ttbaconboy/HPIM0206.jpg
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/g35ttbaconboy/HPIM0210.jpg
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/g35ttbaconboy/HPIM0230.jpg
dude, go ahead and respray that car lavender frost and sell it before the bondo starts sagging. then buy a solid car
gl
vin diesel
02-03-2009, 09:26 PM
its not totaled, and why do you think it is a good idea to keep posting useless information in this thread. and have your parents always bought you perfect cars so you wouldnt have to worry about working on your car?
240tuned91
02-03-2009, 09:27 PM
i gotta big dent right past the door my estimate was 1400$ and wasnt as bad as yours. but i just rebuilt my whole car so i have to have it done..
blueshark123
02-03-2009, 09:55 PM
i would part it listen to crimsonrockett then with the cash buy a nice s14
silpena
02-03-2009, 10:03 PM
dude, go ahead and respray that car lavender frost and sell it before the bondo starts sagging. then buy a solid car
gl
ughh good luck selling that. Bodyline disapears and i see a huge hard edge after the body filler and shitty masking with news paper. The paint/clear will bleed through..... i could spot all his crappy work a mile away. I cant believe u would encourage him to try and paint that and sell it to someone. Shame on you....
G35ttbaconboy
02-03-2009, 10:25 PM
Naah man i putting the body line and no i bet money when im done u cant spot that from a mile away. Anyways im just gonna finish it up this summer and put in the ka24de from the E that's in it. With some Wisieco pistons and Sell that bitch. With a ton of parts. But to cold for me to finish the work. Hey listin to that guy who does body work sounds good i always take advice from people who kno. Im sorry guys im leaving the S chassie 4 a while going to the G35 with some wide ass rims this summer.
Teddy
02-03-2009, 11:56 PM
Just drive the shit out of it at events. Now you won't give a shit if you tap walls.
BustedS13
02-03-2009, 11:57 PM
Just drive the shit out of it at events. Now you won't give a shit if you tap walls.
that's exactly what a 16 year old should be focusing on
HellaSlowAndOld
02-04-2009, 12:21 AM
would it be possible for me to bang it out from the inside. how much would it cost to get it done(is it worth it). how well do you think it can be straightened out?
heres some pictures
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e76/vince325/240sx/IMG_3603.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e76/vince325/240sx/IMG_3601.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e76/vince325/240sx/IMG_3598.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e76/vince325/240sx/IMG_3597.jpg
dude if i were u i would be happy with the price u got it for and what u have, the the perfect car to learn how to drive/drift, just beat it man!!!
just slam it, make sure u dont rub on that quarter of urs and just kick it side ways...if its an auto swap it, if its 5speed ur set :D
fuck all these haters "when i was 16 blah blah blah" and "u should be smart and saved blah blah blah im a prik blah blah blah" if ur ganna drift it and u hit something..whatever man u got it for $900, but if u had a $2,500 and u hit it, all of a sudden it went from $2.5k to $900....uhh fuck that..like i said its ur 1st and its ur learner car!
learn how to drive on it, then get the better 240, start from ground zero and fuck these smart ass haters :nono:
!Zar!
02-04-2009, 01:18 AM
So much fail and cock smuggling going on in this thread.
"Learn how to drive" and, "take it to the track and drift it" should NEVER go together.
You are suggesting that this kid who may or may not know how to drive a car straight take it to the track and try advanced driving?
Are you fucking kidding me?
If I was that kid, I would've never considered buying that car. SO much better you could buy for a thousand dollars.
Stop feeding all these false dreams into his head.
Try to keep him from wasting more money than he already has.
Someone called a 240sx a sports car? LOL. Yeah right.
It's a sport coupe. Same class as an Integra and a Prelude.
sb253
02-04-2009, 01:47 AM
^^ :bowdown:
my thoughts exactly
BustedS13
02-04-2009, 02:52 AM
"sport coupe" is just made up car dealer/insurance jargon. it's an impractical car designed with performance ahead of rear passenger legroom or cupholders. it's a sports car.
blah blah wikipedia, not that it matters
A sports car is a term used to describe a class of automobile (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile). The exact definition varies, [1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_car#cite_note-0) but generally it is used to refer to a low to ground, light weight vehicle with a powerful engine. Most vehicles referred to as sports cars are rear-wheel drive (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rear-wheel_drive), have two seats, two doors, and are designed for more precise handling (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_handling), acceleration, and aesthetics. A sports car's dominant considerations can be superior road handling, braking, maneuverability, low weight, and high power, rather than passenger space, comfort, and fuel economy.
but anyway what does that have to do with anything? this is about a kid in way over his head, not what defines "sports car".
burnsauto
02-04-2009, 03:20 AM
coming from a body guy - its fixable.
You can either get those dents out (its actually not that bad besides the bottom of the quarter where it meets the bumper...that'll need a stud gun. Most of those dents are fairly simple and wouldn't take a TON of finesse to fix. Start from the body line and work your way out.
OR... section the rear quarter...which involves removing the surrounding glass on the C pillar, a spot weld drill bit, and a welder. If you know someone who can do all of these things for cheap....why the hell not.
I'm becoming less of a fan of the " just part it out " thing as years go on... just makes one less complete car out there...and more parts in someone's garage for their "project"
HellaSlowAndOld
02-04-2009, 08:54 AM
"Learn how to drive" and, "take it to the track and drift it" should NEVER go together.
uhhh... y not? I guess we all but u failed at life, we started at a noob/totaly suckage level, and u were just awesome at everything...
watever dude i dont think this kid got a bad deal, ur just making seem like its the worst thing in life that he did..wow man...just cuz it has a messed up panal? and he wanted to know how and how much he can fix it for? ....its pontless to argue with u, u make it seem like ur always right and were all worng
watever dude go be great at everything u do then..
Matej
02-04-2009, 09:42 AM
Unless this car's frame is broken in half, I don't see what's wrong with it.
420sx
02-04-2009, 10:08 AM
these cars dont have a frame. its a unibody. fucking HELLO.
just leave the car as it is, no need to invest money in this. just drive it.
brunswick240
02-04-2009, 10:35 AM
So much fail and cock smuggling going on in this thread.
"Learn how to drive" and, "take it to the track and drift it" should NEVER go together.
You are suggesting that this kid who may or may not know how to drive a car straight take it to the track and try advanced driving?
Are you fucking kidding me?
If I was that kid, I would've never considered buying that car. SO much better you could buy for a thousand dollars.
Stop feeding all these false dreams into his head.
Try to keep him from wasting more money than he already has.
Someone called a 240sx a sports car? LOL. Yeah right.
It's a sport coupe. Same class as an Integra and a Prelude.
Are you fucking kidding me? Shut the hell up, what have you posted in here related to the topic? All youve said is blahh blah im god, im great at life, you suck, part your car out. blahh blahhh blah. So you got a nice car when you were 16 yippy fuckin do da. Try n find a nice 240 for 900 bucks around ohio and let me know what you come up with. The car has some fuckin dents in the qp, but youve skipped over the fact its got every option from the factory. All you do is throw shit on top of people while you stand all high and mighty thinking your shit dont stink. Grow the fuck up, did you really have to even post in here if you completely disagreed with the OP? NO. but of course youre a douchebag and you did anyways.
WHEN DID OP SAY HE WANTED TO DRIFT?? Not every fucking 240 owner wants to drift the shit out of his car with aero slammed to the ground.
Zar and busted should go suck each other off and call it a day. God you two are like fucking women complaining about every fucking little thing you see throughout your day, wash the sand out of your vags and come back down to fucking reality.
!Zar!
02-04-2009, 10:37 AM
horrid e-grammar
Thank you.
I most certainly will.
Are you fucking kidding me? Shut the hell up, what have you posted in here related to the topic? All youve said is blahh blah im god, im great at life, you suck, part your car out. blahh blahhh blah. So you got a nice car when you were 16 yippy fuckin do da. Try n find a nice 240 for 900 bucks around ohio and let me know what you come up with. The car has some fuckin dents in the qp, but youve skipped over the fact its got every option from the factory. All you do is throw shit on top of people while you stand all high and mighty thinking your shit dont stink. Grow the fuck up, did you really have to even post in here if you completely disagreed with the OP? NO. but of course youre a douchebag and you did anyways.
WHEN DID OP SAY HE WANTED TO DRIFT?? Not every fucking 240 owner wants to drift the shit out of his car with aero slammed to the ground.
Zar and busted should go suck each other off and call it a day. God you two are like fucking women complaining about every fucking little thing you see throughout your day, wash the sand out of your vags and come back down to fucking reality.
Most all my posts have been pertinent. If you can't comprehend it, then I'm sorry to hear that.
So since you have a, "hard time" finding a car you buy the first pile that rolls along?
It has every option from the factory?
NO FUCKING SHIT. It's an SE.
I never said the OP planned on drifting. I was talking in regards to other people and their suggestions.
Obviously you don't get my stand point.
I'm telling the people who say he should go wide body that it will cost too much to pull off.
I'm telling the people who say he should fix it that it will end up costing about the same price as another s14.
So his only real option is to just leave it. That's why I'm pretty sure the original owner sold it in the first place.
You can call me names all you want.
All I will say is that you should learn where periods and comma's are REALLY supposed to go.
The BEST option for that car is to have someone weld a rod to the qp and use a slide to try and pull it out.
The biggest problem area is the area towards the bottom of the rear wheel because that metal is pretty thick.
Happy? I gave him another option.
See that?
SEE!?
these cars dont have a frame. its a unibody. fucking HELLO.
just leave the car as it is, no need to invest money in this. just drive it.
/thread
lilredstiffy
02-04-2009, 11:08 AM
Why does he have to fix it?
Its a 12-14 year old car with some dents. Who cares. I'd have no problems driving it if I got it for cheap and everything was working fine.
Matej
02-04-2009, 11:22 AM
these cars dont have a frame. its a unibody. fucking HELLO.
You really hurt my feelings.
burnsauto
02-04-2009, 11:28 AM
Why does he have to fix it?
Its a 12-14 year old car with some dents. Who cares. I'd have no problems driving it if I got it for cheap and everything was working fine.
Just because it has age doesn't mean it should be written off and discarded.
But anyways, back on topic:boink:
projectRDM
02-04-2009, 01:32 PM
Ok but when ur 16 all u want is a 240 to slide around with. Also i have learned when times are hard u cheap out im sorry some of u guys are so rich u have money out the ass. But some don't. SORRY FOR BEING POOR
You are a fucking moron. When you're 16 the only thing you want to do is have freedom, period. I can say with certainty that at age 16 and now 19 years later the last thing I ever wanted was 'a 240 to slide around with'. I think most people will agree. Those with sense anyway.
As for being poor, that's not an excuse for being ignorant. In fact, it should be more of a reason to be educated about things and not be an idiot so you don't waste what little money you do have. Cheaping out because that's all you can afford to do is proof you have no intelligence whatsoever. Instead of buying a reliable, dependable car to get you around that you can always count on you'd rather buy a shitbag that looks like fuck and needs more work than you'll ever be able to pay for because it's considered cool. You're the stupidest fucker on Earth.
420sx
02-04-2009, 01:37 PM
You really hurt my feelings.
im sorry. ill make it up to you. :trogdor: :faint:
!Zar!
02-04-2009, 01:40 PM
I smell man sex.
Akiros
02-04-2009, 01:58 PM
I smell man sex.
man sex works wonders on qp's
OP: just get it fixed and drive it if you have the money. If not, you could EASILY make your money back parting it out.
!Zar!
02-04-2009, 02:08 PM
I highly doubt his parents would let their son take a running car apart and sell it bit by bit.
projectRDM
02-04-2009, 02:16 PM
I highly doubt his parents would let their son take a running car apart and sell it bit by bit.
You never know. They were stupid enough to let him buy the piece of shit in the first place.
brunswick240
02-04-2009, 02:18 PM
He's not going to part it out. It'll be fixed, whether its done in a body shop, or in the garage. He had an 86 325, sold it for the most he could get and tried finding a decent 240 in good running condition that he could drive. The motors good, the rest of the body is good, the car has no rust besides what on the drivers door, and its a great car to learn on.
BTW not every SE had all the options. But youre cool, so youre ok.
brunswick240
02-04-2009, 02:22 PM
You never know. They were stupid enough to let him buy the piece of shit in the first place.
He didnt buy a fucking rolling chasis with rotted out everything. Shut the fuck up.
!Zar!
02-04-2009, 02:27 PM
What was wrong with the bmw that he sold?
brunswick240
02-04-2009, 02:31 PM
Electric problems (o2 sensor wasnt reading, car was running too rich), and it wasn't a 240.
!Zar!
02-04-2009, 02:32 PM
No comment.
brunswick240
02-04-2009, 02:34 PM
Appreciated.
blueshark123
02-04-2009, 02:40 PM
Maddd hate in this thread
Akiros
02-04-2009, 02:42 PM
and it wasn't a 240.
jeeeeezus....
projectRDM
02-04-2009, 03:28 PM
He didnt buy a fucking rolling chasis with rotted out everything. Shut the fuck up.
Don't get butthurt because I trashed you gay lover's shitbox car. I've bought cars with less damage than that for cheaper and parted them out, I sure as hell wouldn't drive the damn thing or invest a dime in fixing it.
!Zar!
02-04-2009, 03:45 PM
I'm still trying to see why he gave up a bmw which for the most part sounded to be in good condition for... that.
Someone should call CPS on his parents.
vin diesel
02-04-2009, 03:58 PM
bmw was a slow piece of shit. it wouldnt pass e-check, wouldnt idle right. the o2 senor didnt make a good ground. carbon build up on the pistons, window motors didnt work, tires were wasted, trunk was rotted out and water would leak into it. rust in the gas tank. odometer didnt work. and the list goes on
!Zar!
02-04-2009, 04:13 PM
So you get rid of one slow crappy car for another one?
Matej
02-04-2009, 05:57 PM
Haha why is everyone so harsh on this guy. If you don't want to spend money, just hammer the dent out from the inside for now. That's what I would do. If the car is in good shape mechanically and drives straight, I don't see why everyone's making such a big deal about a dent. Anyone who junks/parts out a 240 only because it has a dent is an effeminate weirdo.
BustedS13
02-04-2009, 06:15 PM
bmw was a slow piece of shit.
...as opposed to the blistering 17 second quarter an s14 will run
vin diesel
02-04-2009, 06:24 PM
you couldnt even drive the bmw a 1/4 mile
BustedS13
02-04-2009, 06:29 PM
well, fair enough
anyway guy, here's what i'd do.
-widebody fenders
-bondo any other dent or ding on the entire car
-paint some wacky dorifto color. buy a harbor freight gun and do it in your garage.
-sell it as a project and buy a nicer 240.
G35ttbaconboy
02-04-2009, 06:38 PM
You are a fucking moron. When you're 16 the only thing you want to do is have freedom, period. I can say with certainty that at age 16 and now 19 years later the last thing I ever wanted was 'a 240 to slide around with'. I think most people will agree. Those with sense anyway.
As for being poor, that's not an excuse for being ignorant. In fact, it should be more of a reason to be educated about things and not be an idiot so you don't waste what little money you do have. Cheaping out because that's all you can afford to do is proof you have no intelligence whatsoever. Instead of buying a reliable, dependable car to get you around that you can always count on you'd rather buy a shitbag that looks like fuck and needs more work than you'll ever be able to pay for because it's considered cool. You're the stupidest fucker on Earth.
Maybe your sorry ass just wanted freedom i just wanted to Dirve!! I hope he fix that car and fucking show all u haters who want to rid the 240 population to shut the F*** up. I bet by the summer u could not tell it is the same car! Make the non haters proud!:coold:
!Zar!
02-04-2009, 06:41 PM
How about you spend a little less time sucking your boyfriends cock, and a little more time reading a book and brushing up your grammar.
5t341tH
02-04-2009, 08:16 PM
geez so much hate. the youngins' should listen to the older guys. they already been thru what you have. they have more experience and knowledge as well. once u grow up more and mature, u will realize the words they speak.
just my 2 pennies
Bubbles
02-04-2009, 08:26 PM
I think you're right.
Just look at all that wisdom waiting to be devoured.
How about you spend a little less time sucking your boyfriends cock, and a little more time reading a book and brushing up your grammar.
murda-c
02-04-2009, 08:29 PM
It seems like everyone in this thread seems to think they're the smartest guy in the world and everyone else is an idiot.
Really we're all wrong.
even me.
projectRDM
02-04-2009, 08:32 PM
Maybe your sorry ass just wanted freedom i just wanted to Dirve!! I hope he fix that car and fucking show all u haters who want to rid the 240 population to shut the F*** up. I bet by the summer u could not tell it is the same car! Make the non haters proud!:coold:
I like how you defended your position on driving, but not on being a complete fucking moron. There's nothing more satisfying than proving a point.
G35ttbaconboy
02-04-2009, 08:42 PM
I like how you defended your position on driving, but not on being a complete fucking moron. There's nothing more satisfying than proving a point.
Hey u might be right im not the smartest peanut in the terd, but ur the one trying to put someone down and hes 16. OHH DO I SMELL SOMEONE WAS NEGLECTED?????:love:
G35ttbaconboy
02-04-2009, 08:47 PM
He is gonna be the coolest kid in his HS wit a green SE!! Vin Diesel U go drive that sexy green s14 u drive it till u hit that red line!
BustedS13
02-04-2009, 09:01 PM
I felt like putting a red square between the eyes of every panda that wouldn't screw to save its species. I wanted to open the dump valves on red square tankers and smother all the French beaches I'd never see. I wanted to breathe smoke.
Bigsyke
02-04-2009, 09:14 PM
I felt like putting a red square between the eyes of every panda that wouldn't screw to save its species. I wanted to open the dump valves on red square tankers and smother all the French beaches I'd never see. I wanted to breathe smoke.
The things we own, end up owning us.
Hey u might be right im not the smartest peanut in the terd, but ur the one trying to put someone down and hes 16. OHH DO I SMELL SOMEONE WAS NEGLECTED?????:love:
I read a few of your posts, I wish I could pull a drive by on your trick ass.
He is gonna be the coolest kid in his HS wit a green SE!! Vin Diesel U go drive that sexy green s14 u drive it till u hit that red line!
This proves your a homosexual, I accidentally clicked on this thread and 1st thing that poped up was your failed ebonics, you little bitch ass cock smuggler
420sx
02-05-2009, 03:32 PM
Hey u might be right im not the smartest peanut in the terd, but ur the one trying to put someone down and hes 16. OHH DO I SMELL SOMEONE WAS NEGLECTED?????:love:
grammar.
punctuation would help also.
ericcastro
02-05-2009, 07:45 PM
...as opposed to the blistering 17 second quarter an s14 will run
i needed this.
shitty day, lol
Maybe your sorry ass just wanted freedom i just wanted to Dirve!! I hope he fix that car and fucking show all u haters who want to rid the 240 population to shut the F*** up. I bet by the summer u could not tell it is the same car! Make the non haters proud!:coold:
How about you spend a little less time sucking your boyfriends cock, and a little more time reading a book and brushing up your grammar.
He's from Queens. theres a mandatory douche baggery they have to have. Its the whole tuff guy thing.
friend of yours,friend of mine, lol
At least he doesn't drive an IROC Z
geez so much hate. the youngins' should listen to the older guys. they already been thru what you have. they have more experience and knowledge as well. once u grow up more and mature, u will realize the words they speak.
just my 2 pennies
Very true.
We try and throw out a little tough guy love and knowledge, and people get offended.
Us old fuckers have made plenty of mistakes in trying to save worthless cars, engines, even rims.
Take it with a grain of salt and what we say is pretty gold ;)
It seems like everyone in this thread seems to think they're the smartest guy in the world and everyone else is an idiot.
Really we're all wrong.
Cause Im the smartest guy in the world.
Or at least this forum, :goyou:
The things we own, end up owning us.
So true.
When he starts fixing the "dent", and is to far in to pull out.
He's gonna learn this too.
Teddy
02-05-2009, 07:52 PM
I like onions. Not raw, but when they're grilled, they're pretty good.
BustedS13
02-05-2009, 07:52 PM
ten to one odds this car gets totaled or his mom sells it before the "dent" is fixed.
to the op, it is fixable.. is it worth it? probably not.. honestly.
you're 16, which means your probably stubborn and won't listen to most of these replies.
do what you please, who knows years from now, the car could be awesome :tardrim:
vin diesel
02-05-2009, 09:01 PM
well i got a quote for 1500 to get a door, front fender, quarter panel fixed and the whole drivers side painted. and i bought the car for 900 so that comes to a total of $2400. try to find a 96 se with nice interior, no rust, vlsd, sunroof, premium sound package, for cheaper than 2400.
ka24delover
02-05-2009, 09:12 PM
is it 4 sale
Bigsyke
02-05-2009, 09:19 PM
try to find a 96 se with nice interior, no rust, vlsd, sunroof, premium sound package, for cheaper than 2400.
I've heard storys of mint S14's going for $1,000. Remeber nissan built the S14 as an "old man's" sports car; thus wives selling their husbands 14yr old car for WELL under $2,400.
NismOkatFreaK
02-05-2009, 09:47 PM
Mine was pretty bad, i used a comealong dent puller and a tree took me like 3 hours and saved two grand.
went from this
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/roor4lyfe/Picture009.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/roor4lyfe/Picture010.jpg
To this
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/roor4lyfe/Picture007.jpg
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/roor4lyfe/Picture008.jpg
The bodyshop is guna clean it up a little better before paint so the lines arent as noticable. So do it yourself dont pay someone two grand.
driven_
02-05-2009, 10:31 PM
Naah man i putting the body line and no i bet money when im done u cant spot that from a mile away. Anyways im just gonna finish it up this summer and put in the ka24de from the E that's in it. With some Wisieco pistons and Sell that bitch. With a ton of parts. But to cold for me to finish the work. Hey listin to that guy who does body work sounds good i always take advice from people who kno. Im sorry guys im leaving the S chassie 4 a while going to the G35 with some wide ass rims this summer.
:confused: am i the only one who caught this?
obviously you cant spot it if youre a mile away.
lol.
anyways, on another note, since most of the OG's have experienced it, take it on their view, they are correct.
but whatever, live and learn.
if you dont listen, you can live and learn as said.
if you do listen, you can fly over the "self-learning" part and get secondhand "learning." making it easier for yourself.
onepuff
02-05-2009, 11:23 PM
Does anyone have a link to the SE S14 he should have bought? For less than $3000? Within 1000 miles? Anyone? Anyone?
OP get that shit fixed and learn something in the process. From the looks of your parents garage you aren't struggling to eat. If you like cars and want to learn some things this will be a good start to learn bodywork. Like i said before if you want to do it yourself i've got access to just about any tool that would be necessary. If you've got the money to just get it fixed then i say do it. You're 16 so you really don't even need a car right away and you have plenty of time to learn.
DO IT. DO IT.
BustedS13
02-06-2009, 01:39 AM
well i got a quote for 1500 to get a door, front fender, quarter panel fixed and the whole drivers side painted. and i bought the car for 900 so that comes to a total of $2400. try to find a 96 se with nice interior, no rust, vlsd, sunroof, premium sound package, for cheaper than 2400.
maybe, just maybe, if you only have 2400, you should consider a different car.
i daily a ten year old Acura because six grand doesn't buy a carrera GT. $1500, however, did buy my s13.
G35ttbaconboy
02-06-2009, 08:19 PM
:confused: am i the only one who caught this?
obviously you cant spot it if youre a mile away.
lol.
anyways, on another note, since most of the OG's have experienced it, take it on their view, they are correct.
but whatever, live and learn.
if you dont listen, you can live and learn as said.
if you do listen, you can fly over the "self-learning" part and get secondhand "learning." making it easier for yourself.
Smart ass lol:mephfawk:
!Zar!
02-07-2009, 10:41 AM
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/roor4lyfe/Picture008.jpg
I'm confused.
It looks like you put an over fender on the car, yet the bodywork makes it look like there isn't; not in a good way.
But the gas cap is recessed.
Elaborate.
I'm confused.
It looks like you put an over fender on the car, yet the bodywork makes it look like there isn't; not in a good way.
But the gas cap is recessed.
Elaborate.
could be molded in, instead of what you're expecting rivet.
ixfxi
02-07-2009, 12:11 PM
Ok get a piece of 2x4 wood and a hammer, idk how that car is but for my s13 it has a space u can fit it in. Ok and just hit the wood with a hammer try to get it straight direct contact is better, and it should pop out mostly. cheap way bondo and idk what to tell u about color. But thats the best solution look at my own yea people will say it looks like shit but still not done.
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/g35ttbaconboy/HPIM0197.jpg
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/g35ttbaconboy/HPIM0206.jpg
holy shit, that doesnt even look like a 240. i thought it was a fuckin 87 grand-am or something.
ixfxi
02-07-2009, 12:23 PM
Mine was pretty bad, i used a comealong dent puller and a tree took me like 3 hours and saved two grand.
went from this
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/roor4lyfe/Picture009.jpg
To this
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t111/roor4lyfe/Picture007.jpg
The bodyshop is guna clean it up a little better before paint so the lines arent as noticable. So do it yourself dont pay someone two grand.
fucking GHETTO
what the fuck is wrong with the majority of idiots nowadays? i mean, do you guys have no pride in owning these cars? its like the guy who's happy fucking some fat sea-donkey and says "hey at least she cooks for me" who gives a fuck, shes ugly and disgusting.. bottom line.
If you're going to own a car, it shouldnt look "good enough" to where you have to squint. Shit should look tight, period. Here is the way I see it, if you're broke then have a stock car. If you can afford to modify, then modify with quality parts. If you own a car and cant even afford to fix it, then fuckit.. leave it alone, sell it, trash it.. but dont do this ghetto shit. Tying your car to a fuckin tree and thinking you're fixing it. It looks ghetto.
During my restoration project, the latter half has consisted of me looking at the details.. properly aligning all the body panels and glass on the car. You guys are fucking clueless. The door doesnt align for shit and even the window seam is out of whack.
This thread if just FULL of failed advice. Do yourself a favor, save some money and take the car to a reputable body shop and get a quote. If its too expensive, meaning... if its out of your budget, then consider selling the car or parting it out.
Bottom line: you fucked up and bought yourself a piece of shit. Move on.
khmerguy618
02-07-2009, 12:29 PM
it just needs a bandaid. waterproof kind.
BustedS13
02-07-2009, 01:06 PM
I'm confused.
It looks like you put an over fender on the car, yet the bodywork makes it look like there isn't; not in a good way.
But the gas cap is recessed.
Elaborate.
i like how he didn't bother to remove the tails, so now they have sandpaper scuffs on them.
Matej
02-07-2009, 01:27 PM
fucking GHETTO
what the fuck is wrong with the majority of idiots nowadays? i mean, do you guys have no pride in owning these cars? its like the guy who's happy fucking some fat sea-donkey and says "hey at least she cooks for me" who gives a fuck, shes ugly and disgusting.. bottom line.
If you're going to own a car, it shouldnt look "good enough" to where you have to squint. Shit should look tight, period. Here is the way I see it, if you're broke then have a stock car. If you can afford to modify, then modify with quality parts. If you own a car and cant even afford to fix it, then fuckit.. leave it alone, sell it, trash it.. but dont do this ghetto shit. Tying your car to a fuckin tree and thinking you're fixing it. It looks ghetto.
During my restoration project, the latter half has consisted of me looking at the details.. properly aligning all the body panels and glass on the car. You guys are fucking clueless. The door doesnt align for shit and even the window seam is out of whack.
This thread if just FULL of failed advice. Do yourself a favor, save some money and take the car to a reputable body shop and get a quote. If its too expensive, meaning... if its out of your budget, then consider selling the car or parting it out.
Bottom line: you fucked up and bought yourself a piece of shit. Move on.
Word. Last night I found a scratch on my roof, so I junked my car today. I don't have a car now, but I definitely have pride.
ericcastro
02-07-2009, 01:40 PM
.............................
Fuck that.
My S13 blue books at about 1500.
The cars are a dime a dozen
Im not spending the few years of my life perfecting a shitty car.
I drift the fuck out of my car.
And I dont care if everything doesnt line up perfect.
It only has to look good from a distance on the track.
Eventually its gonna be in the scrap yard and im gonna have another one.
Why the fuck would I waste money making sure it all lines up.
Its not for HIN's.
Its a fucking expendable track car for one of the more destructive motorsports out there.
I would be a real assbag to spend thousands perfecting the cars body only to bump another car in tandem or to clip a wall.
ixfxi
02-07-2009, 04:39 PM
Fuck that.
My S13 blue books at about 1500.
The cars are a dime a dozen
Im not spending the few years of my life perfecting a shitty car.
I drift the fuck out of my car.
And I dont care if everything doesnt line up perfect.
It only has to look good from a distance on the track.
Eventually its gonna be in the scrap yard and im gonna have another one.
Why the fuck would I waste money making sure it all lines up.
Its not for HIN's.
Its a fucking expendable track car for one of the more destructive motorsports out there.
I would be a real assbag to spend thousands perfecting the cars body only to bump another car in tandem or to clip a wall.
sweet. im sure you look pretty baller driving around a beatup shitpile. no thanks, ill pass.
btw, fuck HIN.
MisawaJason
02-07-2009, 08:32 PM
Word. Last night I found a scratch on my roof, so I junked my car today. I don't have a car now, but I definitely have pride.
oh shit I cant stop laughing
420sx
02-07-2009, 08:39 PM
this is still going? die already
ericcastro
02-08-2009, 12:47 PM
sweet. im sure you look pretty baller driving around a beatup shitpile. no thanks, ill pass.
btw, fuck HIN.
Its an old nissan 240sx.
i will let you in on a little secret.
Its never baller :cry:
Like i said, I dont care to much.
I enjoy spending the money on tires and track time rather than fixing the dents and body work
to each his own goals though. ;)
s13dan
02-08-2009, 02:07 PM
polishing turds...hells yea.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v304/S13Dan/polished.jpg
ixfxi
02-08-2009, 07:08 PM
Its an old nissan 240sx.
i will let you in on a little secret.
Its never baller :cry:
Like i said, I dont care to much.
I enjoy spending the money on tires and track time rather than fixing the dents and body work
to each his own goals though. ;)
thats the most stupid shit ive ever read.
a car is what you build it to be. if you take the time to build it right, it will be worth its own value. the majority of cars here are just fanboy shitrides
certain cars will have big value as the years progress. iconic cars like the s13, s14, supra, z, they will always have value as the years progress.
at least thats the way i see it. you dont, thats fine. you want to thrash and destroy your car, its fine. i enjoy knowing my cars are here to stay and i dont look like a chump getting out of a broke-down s13 that looks like its been part of a mad-max movie
ericcastro
02-09-2009, 10:40 AM
thats the most stupid shit ive ever read.
a car is what you build it to be. if you take the time to build it right, it will be worth its own value. the majority of cars here are just fanboy shitrides
certain cars will have big value as the years progress. iconic cars like the s13, s14, supra, z, they will always have value as the years progress.
at least thats the way i see it. you dont, thats fine. you want to thrash and destroy your car, its fine. i enjoy knowing my cars are here to stay and i dont look like a chump getting out of a broke-down s13 that looks like its been part of a mad-max movie
I think we have 2 different goals.
You are building a car to have for a long amount of time.
I am using a car to drift.
I clip cones, haybails, walls, other cars.
My car isnt going to live more than a couple years.
The thousands I have saved on body work,.
I have spend on track time, tires, driving to other states for pro qualifyers.
I have over 6 contest this year minimum and regular events.
Plus I will probably be running ASB in the winter.
so what I am using a 240 for and what you are using your car for are completely different.
the goals and the roads there completely contradict each other.
People on this forum dont realize that.
And this has paid off for me.
My entire body kit is from a sponsor.
saved around $2000 plus.
If I made sure everything was perfect on my car, I wouldn't have been able to get the seat time to get to that level.
Im 32, Im not getting any younger and the time is going by faster and faster. I dont have time to wait if I wanna accomplish my goals.
If I make it to where i wanna be in motorsports, someone else will be maintaining the car for me in the future.
make better sense??
BTW, for the price of a S14, you could get a datsun 510.
Thats an iconic car and worth putting the money into inho.
ixfxi
02-09-2009, 12:58 PM
I think we have 2 different goals.
You are building a car to have for a long amount of time.
I am using a car to drift.
BTW, for the price of a S14, you could get a datsun 510.
Thats an iconic car and worth putting the money into inho.
I hear what you're saying, and I am just saying that we dont have to agree. I mean, I get pissed off when I hear people saying that these are cars that should be driven, drifted and junked. If thats what you or anyone else wants to do, cool.. but it doesnt mean everyone here wants that. I for one, dont.
I can understand the OP saying that, because he purchased a steaming pile of crap.. but there are a lot of nice cars that have been molested by idiots and its tiring to see that.
There's a reason why these cars are popular and why idiots like us continue to spend hours learning about these cars, because they are bomb. If I wanted a car that I cant get parts for, I'de pickup an S30 240Z. Truth of the matter is, I'de rather enjoy what I've got since I've owned it for 10+ years already.
ericcastro
02-09-2009, 02:21 PM
I understand were your coming from.
I think the 240's are still in their "expendable" phase for another several years.
We are basically were the Datsun 510 was in the late 80's/early 90's.
In about 10 years, bone stock 240's in mint condition will get the respect they deserve, but not right now.
Im actually interested to see how things will work as we stop using fossil fuels in the way we have.
I usually get more frustrated with people thinking they have to save 240's. Like its some sort of fucking endangered species.
you live in LA area, you see them all day long.
No one believes me when i tell em good 240's are out there for next to nothing.
here,
http://zilvia.net/f/premium-members/239108-so-i-got-dd.html
But if you need a expendable car thats cheap, easily upgraded, abundant, rwd, ....then its a 240.
Used to be a datsun 510 15 years ago or more.
used to be the old Mustang 5.0 for drag.
Its just unavoidable.
Surprised you never saw my car, in its many stages, when i lived in burbank.
ixfxi
02-09-2009, 04:41 PM
i tend to squint when i look at most modified cars so that i dont see the numerous ways that people skimp when modifying their cars. shitty aftermarket body panels that dont fit right and if its OEM, its zip-tied on and barely fitted on. everythings a mess nowadays. its very rare to see a clean car.
its not about a car being rare or endangered, i could give a fuck about any of that. just have some fucking pride in what you drive. if a person doesnt care about their car, then leave the damn thing stock. nothing worse than slapped together shitrides that have a bunch of cheap illegal shit on them. and worse people think they're cool about driving a shit-modified car. like i said, i'de have more respect if it was or using OEM parts.
that link you posted is fine, a nice OE-looking car for cheap. all he has to do is maintain the damn thing and it will be nice. it takes a lot of work to change all the worn OE shit, but its necessary if you want to have a nice old car. otherwise, it'll just end up run down like the rest of'em.
pm me some photos of your car, maybe i've seen you around LA. i'm surprised i didnt catch you in the mountains around here. i used to always tear it up, if not in the 240 then in the miatae.
drift freaq
02-09-2009, 05:40 PM
I understand were your coming from.
I think the 240's are still in their "expendable" phase for another several years.
We are basically were the Datsun 510 was in the late 80's/early 90's.
In about 10 years, bone stock 240's in mint condition will get the respect they deserve, but not right now.
Im actually interested to see how things will work as we stop using fossil fuels in the way we have.
I usually get more frustrated with people thinking they have to save 240's. Like its some sort of fucking endangered species.
you live in LA area, you see them all day long.
No one believes me when i tell em good 240's are out there for next to nothing.
here,
http://zilvia.net/f/premium-members/239108-so-i-got-dd.html
But if you need a expendable car thats cheap, easily upgraded, abundant, rwd, ....then its a 240.
Used to be a datsun 510 15 years ago or more.
used to be the old Mustang 5.0 for drag.
Its just unavoidable.
Surprised you never saw my car, in its many stages, when i lived in burbank.
Ah Eric, 510's were in there expendable stage in the late 70's early 80's by the late 80's parts were getting less easy to find. You just felt they were still expendable.
Fact is currently the number of quality 240's has dropped drastically here in socal. In fact what you see a lot of know is A: beat ass junk or B: modified thrashed stuff with SR's being sold cheap. Occasionally you see clean SR cars and maybe a clean stock car.
Before I tore my car down for the the conversion and paint I looked long and hard for something cleaner to work with.
I am not saying my car was not in good shape it was. I am just a picky ass bastard when it comes to cleaner cars. I.E. I am known for having them and selling them. Yup I sell them sometimes. LOL.
With all of that 240's are getting very close to the non expendable stage. Now that does not mean I condone the OP's choice or Vin Diesels choice. I still will consider a chassis trash beyond a certain point.
Does it mean 240's will become collectibles? That is a whole other debate. LOL
I will say this what I am doing with my S13 now is my last S13 build period! No I will not be building a S14. EVER!
Oh and if you really want to know whats going to be expendable 350Z's baby, bring them on . Drift and crash em, go buy another. Perfect for you my friend.
DJ_Sunrise
02-09-2009, 05:42 PM
$1400-$1800 from a body shop, and it will look brand new. Tell them you are paying cash. Just go around and ask for a quote. Or tell the guy who is qouting you the guy across the street will do it for XXXX, and "can you beat it?" etc.
-Bart
ro240sx
02-09-2009, 09:07 PM
My s13 had similar damage but just on the bottom rear and my dads friend fixed it and painted my whole car. I just paid the guy with a couple of twelve packs.
ixfxi
02-10-2009, 01:40 PM
My s13 had similar damage but just on the bottom rear and my dads friend fixed it and painted my whole car. I just paid the guy with a couple of twelve packs.
and he fixed your car with a couple vads of bondo.
congrats
for those who are unaware, changing a rear quarter panel is a tough job if you're going to do it right (ie: making it look stock)
ro240sx
02-10-2009, 09:01 PM
^^^
He used a minimal amount of bondo. He was able to pull the dent out successfully since the damage was not severe. He knows his stuff since he worked for a body shop.
s13dan
02-11-2009, 02:24 AM
What the fuck is everyone referring to? A hit like that to an insurance company and its most likely done for, TOTALED... As for insurance purposes S13's are worthless and S14 arnt worth much either. As for restoration its an easy fix, and not a big deal. Replace the qauter, do it right. We all know that 240's are low in cost right now, but in 10-20 years they will be like any popular muscle car. The more original and/or documented the better. BUT i think we are all off topic here. If i were in the OPs shoes i would replace most likley make a race car outa it, cuz i dont care for s14's much and he just got the car so fuck it. zero sentimental value tons of whore potential.
!Zar!
02-11-2009, 02:32 AM
Some people have such big imaginations and dreams.
240tuned91
02-22-2009, 08:24 AM
no one listen to busteds13 hes a FORD owner lmao.. im 17 and i got a similiar dent it sucks... i got a qutoe from nissan and a new quarter is 585.. sucks yeah but what are you going to do. If you can find a s14 shell thats in good shape get that and swap your five lug and eveything, you will have fun and save some money..
vin diesel
02-22-2009, 09:14 AM
i can get it painted for free, i just need to get my dents pulled out
240tuned91
02-22-2009, 11:37 AM
that quarter panel might be to strecthed out to be molded back to original form.
Rapier46
02-22-2009, 11:40 AM
banging it out from the inside the probably the best you can do
!Zar!
02-22-2009, 11:40 AM
no one listen to busteds13 hes a FORD owner lmao.. im 17 and i got a similiar dent it sucks... i got a qutoe from nissan and a new quarter is 585.. sucks yeah but what are you going to do. If you can find a s14 shell thats in good shape get that and swap your five lug and eveything, you will have fun and save some money..
Yeah, don't listen to him.
Listen to the all knowing seventeen year old.
Rapier46
02-22-2009, 11:42 AM
I'm confused.
It looks like you put an over fender on the car, yet the bodywork makes it look like there isn't; not in a good way.
But the gas cap is recessed.
Elaborate.
I can see where it is molded in...
Spring Break '92
02-23-2009, 06:52 AM
This thread has had me laughing since page 1. Alot of good responses, along with being hilariously worded. Personally I think the OP didn't know what he was getting himself into, and that was the mistake. Thats been said. Its a little different when your car started life in good shape and then something 'happens', and it ends up with a busted up quarter panel. My car ended up clipping a fence on the interstate. I wasnt driving it at the time. Anyway, I bought an entire rear quarter clip off of another S13 and paid a friend to cut out the needed section and cut out the bad section, weld/grind/fill, all that good shit. Came out nice, I paid $150 for the clip and $700 for his work.
airhead
02-23-2009, 01:12 PM
i would go wit overfenders :)
240tuned91
02-23-2009, 08:15 PM
zar your a **SNIP. 585 dollars call nissan, thats the price for a new quarter panel.
how much did u pay for this car?
!Zar!
02-23-2009, 09:42 PM
zar your a ******. 585 dollars call nissan, thats the price for a new quarter panel.
how much did u pay for this car?
i paid 900, but i dont know if i would want to do overfenders, its more money than just the fenders and body work
Reading > You.
But anywho...
What does sexual orientation have to do with anything?
You forgot to mention tax, paint, labor to cut out the old qp, labor to install the new qp, paint and, body work to fix it.
Please try again
After your one month ban.
ixfxi
02-23-2009, 10:10 PM
zar your a ******. 585 dollars call nissan, thats the price for a new quarter panel.
how much did u pay for this car?
ooooooooooooh....
your in trouble!
should've done what i do, and call him a fruitcake. BIG MISTAKE on your behalf, douchebag. :-)
azndan2
02-23-2009, 10:32 PM
...Zar and busted should go suck each other off and call it a day. God you two are like fucking women complaining about every fucking little thing you see throughout your day, wash the sand out of your vags and come back down to fucking reality.
LOL
+1
to OP I agree with others, you should use it to learn how to drive carefully
Koopa Troopa
02-23-2009, 10:39 PM
no one listen to busteds13 hes a FORD owner lmao..
I'd love to have an old Galaxy. Sweet looking cars. Quit being a fan boy and learn to respect cars for what they are and not because of a manufacturer's label.
its not about a car being rare or endangered, i could give a fuck about any of that. just have some fucking pride in what you drive. if a person doesnt care about their car, then leave the damn thing stock. nothing worse than slapped together shitrides that have a bunch of cheap illegal shit on them. and worse people think they're cool about driving a shit-modified car. like i said, i'de have more respect if it was or using OEM parts.
I take lots of pride in my cars, I also take more pride in what I do with them. To me racing and fighting are the same thing. You win some, you lose some but you get busted up just the same.
That's how I view it. However I also don't mind the damages that occur to my car's body. I guess the effect is similar to the "Red Badge of Courage". I'll try to repair it just the same but if I have to ghetto rig it then so be it. I treat my car like I treat myself and with equal love.
brunswick240
02-23-2009, 11:00 PM
This thread is so lost. all it is is just a bunch of finger pointing and e-thugging.. not that i havent added my own to the thread.
!Zar!
02-23-2009, 11:43 PM
zar your a ******. 585 dollars call nissan, thats the price for a new quarter panel.
how much did u pay for this car?
Oh yeah, it is spelled, "You're" as in, "you are" not, "your".
I own myself thank you. =)
You might be able to buy a new quarter panel from Nissan, but you can't buy grammar.
ThatGuy
02-24-2009, 05:38 AM
zar your a **SNIP. 585 dollars call nissan, thats the price for a new quarter panel.
how much did u pay for this car?
Now you're Pinked for a month. :duh:
240tuned91
02-24-2009, 07:46 PM
u can say coughe but not fag cool but i meant 585 in quarter panel. OF COURSE there is gonna be alabor invovled
onepuff
04-08-2009, 04:13 AM
GL with sale.
1996 Nissan 240sx SE (http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/1106284968.html)
zylvia213
04-08-2009, 12:08 PM
I have some body repair experience.... i'd say very fixable and not too much money involved. Ofcourse taking it to a body shop is going to be costly but if you can manage doing it yourself or getting help from someone it shouldnt be that bad. Dont part it out just fix it. Remember this can happen to any other car you end up getting.... so does that mean if it happens again are you gona part that car out too and go through the same thing??? Good luck bro
BustedS13
04-08-2009, 01:45 PM
no one listen to busteds13 hes a FORD owner lmao..
are you fucking kidding?
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/1106284968.html
are you fucking kidding?
CrimsonRockett
04-08-2009, 02:43 PM
GL with sale.
1996 Nissan 240sx SE (http://cleveland.craigslist.org/cto/1106284968.html)
So overpriced.
How sad.
vin diesel
04-08-2009, 09:33 PM
hahaha ya its overpriced, it started as a joke but then i actually got some emails so i left it online. some guy is coming to look at it this weekend. haha if i can get 3k+ i would be happy
gotspins13
04-09-2009, 02:25 AM
i say widebody,
or better money saver
ignore it and look at the good side of your car hahahahahah
VQMaxFan
04-09-2009, 02:31 AM
hahaha ya its overpriced, it started as a joke but then i actually got some emails so i left it online. some guy is coming to look at it this weekend. haha if i can get 3k+ i would be happy
Lol people are gonna show up and tell you they will buy it and offer you 300 cash to your face.
gotspins13
04-09-2009, 03:14 AM
i call 5 lug if you part it! hahahahha
thatdrifterguy
04-09-2009, 03:51 AM
i wrecked my passenger side twice like that. fixed it at home but its not perfect. but then mines for drifting. i still love my car, i just cant sell it :)
if i ever wanted it to be perfect again, i'd just widebody it.
with the signal twin cars, they just rolled the fenders and riveted the widebody to it. so that should save a lot of money since you dont cut or weld anything.
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