good suspension for drifting?

[bagnasco]

Hey everyone.....I was looking to get into drifting. I know how to do it. Just show up at drift days somewhere.

My question, though, is how should my suspension be?
My suspension is stiff right now but I was wondering if it should be stiff or soft?

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

[cc4usmc]

omg dude, you know how to drift? You can change your suspension? Man, you even posted this in the right place.. good job.

[wow-thats-a-cool-car]

get off zilvia you fail
have u herd of the search buttton
cut springs and blown shocks work the best

[s13boy89]

and put jb weld in your diff locks faster

[DoriSaruMark]

Why is it that whenever a new guy asks a question, everyone makes fun of him/her?

As if you people were born ready to drift and automatically knew everything. Forums are supposed to be a place to share knowledge, not a place to shoot people down because you think you know everything.





bagnasco,

try different things. Your suspension is adjustable so you can fine tune it to YOUR liking. i would set everything either full soft or full stiff, then work your way up or down depending how you start off. generally, I keep my rear softer than the front by 2 clicks or so. This lets you throw weight around a bit easier.

Good luck.

[lazysk8er2]

coilovers are a thing of the past...the secret the drift king uses is solid aluminum bars cut to a good height...take out the front sway bar and weld a solid bar across the rear suspension, go up through the floorboard to attach the roof, go across to the front of the car on both sides and weld criss cross bars to the engine blocks so it doesnt move to cause any shaking.

[94cc0rd]

Why is it that whenever a new guy asks a question, everyone makes fun of him/her?

As if you people were born ready to drift and automatically knew everything. Forums are supposed to be a place to share knowledge, not a place to shoot people down because you think you know everything.





bagnasco,

try different things. Your suspension is adjustable so you can fine tune it to YOUR liking. i would set everything either full soft or full stiff, then work your way up or down depending how you start off. generally, I keep my rear softer than the front by 2 clicks or so. This lets you throw weight around a bit easier.

Good luck.

QUOTED for the ONLY useful post in this thread.

I understand people wanting noobs to search or whatnot but every single thread started by a user with >20 posts gets flamed to all hell.

To the OP, What suspension do you have right now?

[bagnasco]

TEIN fully adjustable shocks and springs. They are also all the way stiff.

[cc4usmc]

Why is it that whenever a new guy asks a question, everyone makes fun of him/her?

As if you people were born ready to drift and automatically knew everything. Forums are supposed to be a place to share knowledge, not a place to shoot people down because you think you know everything.


The knowledge is already here, all they have to do is search. But guess what, they find it easier to just ask. And what they're asking has already been answered over, and over, and over and over. You know what's even funnier? People ask the same question you asked "Why you gotta be soooo mean.. can't we all just hold hands" blah blah.

[94cc0rd]

Yes, I know these questions have been answered over and over but it takes just as long, if not longer, to type that flaming BS telling the OP to search than it does to just answer the question briefly and nicely tell the OP to search.

As a premie, shouldn't you be a more helpful member anyways?

[gripstr]

bagnasco,

try different things. Your suspension is adjustable so you can fine tune it to YOUR liking. i would set everything either full soft or full stiff, then work your way up or down depending how you start off. generally, I keep my rear softer than the front by 2 clicks or so. This lets you throw weight around a bit easier.

Good luck.

ya, what mark said....

stiffer front and softer rear, its so easy to transition.

[lazysk8er2]

Suspensionhttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/99/Question_book-new.svg/50px-Question_book-new.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Question_book-new.svg)
This section does not cite (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources) any references or sources (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability).
Please help improve this section (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Drifting_(motorsport)&action=edit) by adding citations to reliable sources (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reliable_sources). Unverifiable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability) material may be challenged and removed. (March 2008)
The suspension (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_(vehicle)) in a drift car tends to have very high spring and damper rates. Sway bars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sway_bar) are upgraded, particularly on the rear. Caster (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_angle) is often increased to improve the car's controllability during a slide. Most cars use an integrated coilover/shock (MacPherson strut (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacPherson_strut)) combination. This type of suspension allows the ride height to be adjusted independently of the suspension travel. There is no perfect height setting or spring/shock combo for any car, but each driver will have their own personal preference. Many suspension manufacturers offer suspension tuned specifically for drifting, allowing many people to enter the sport competitively.
Bushings can be upgraded with urethane parts. Most Nissan vehicles have a floating rear subframe which is usually fixed in position with billet aluminum or urethane "drift pineapples", to prevent the frame moving during drift.
One suspension tuning method, still popular in Japan, is known as "Demon Camber" (Japanese (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_language): 鬼キャン, Oni-kyan[16] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drifting_(motorsport)#cite_note-15) [1] (http://www.7tune.com/?p=138)). It involves setting the suspension with extreme negative camber (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camber_angle) in the front to reduce slide. Negative camber on the rear would only induce understeer, making the car more difficult to drift. The front of the car having better grip and less tendency to slide, it is easier to swing the rear of the car around to get a good drift angle. However stability, grip, and overall ability to control the car are compromised. It has thus fallen out of favor as a serious performance-minded suspension setup. However, many cars built for show (such as those driven by bōsōzoku (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C5%8Ds%C5%8Dzoku)) still use this style of suspension setup for its aggressive look. A few degrees of toe-out on the rear wheels (leading edges angled outward) can reduce rear stability, and make setting up a drift a little easier.

Suspension Basics - 240SX Forums (http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/beginner-s-forum/69666-suspension-basics.html)
Drift equipment (http://www.driftlock.co.uk/drift-equipment.php)
Drift car setup and tuning a drift car (http://www.torquecars.com/articles/drift-car-tuning.php)

btw i copied and pasted your question into google word for word

[lazysk8er2]

:wavey:woops posted twice

[l20bdime]

lazysk8er2 Suspension
This section does not cite any references or sources.
Please help improve this section by adding citations to reliable sources. Unverifiable material may be challenged and removed. (March 2008)
The suspension in a drift car tends to have very high spring and damper rates. Sway bars are upgraded, particularly on the rear. Caster is often increased to improve the car's controllability during a slide. Most cars use an integrated coilover/shock (MacPherson strut) combination. This type of suspension allows the ride height to be adjusted independently of the suspension travel. There is no perfect height setting or spring/shock combo for any car, but each driver will have their own personal preference. Many suspension manufacturers offer suspension tuned specifically for drifting, allowing many people to enter the sport competitively.
Bushings can be upgraded with urethane parts. Most Nissan vehicles have a floating rear subframe which is usually fixed in position with billet aluminum or urethane "drift pineapples", to prevent the frame moving during drift.
One suspension tuning method, still popular in Japan, is known as "Demon Camber" (Japanese: 鬼キャン, Oni-kyan[16] [1]). It involves setting the suspension with extreme negative camber in the front to reduce slide. Negative camber on the rear would only induce understeer, making the car more difficult to drift. The front of the car having better grip and less tendency to slide, it is easier to swing the rear of the car around to get a good drift angle. However stability, grip, and overall ability to control the car are compromised. It has thus fallen out of favor as a serious performance-minded suspension setup. However, many cars built for show (such as those driven by bōsōzoku) still use this style of suspension setup for its aggressive look. A few degrees of toe-out on the rear wheels (leading edges angled outward) can reduce rear stability, and make setting up a drift a little easier.


i found a lot wrong with that.

I say take your car to an event then pick someone who looks like their car is working good and ask them what they have done. too much bad info on the internet.

[cc4usmc]

Yes, I know these questions have been answered over and over but it takes just as long, if not longer, to type that flaming BS telling the OP to search than it does to just answer the question briefly and nicely tell the OP to search.

As a premie, shouldn't you be a more helpful member anyways?

I am being helpful. If we don't spoon feed new people, they learn to search. If you just answer their question, then they'll come back and just keep asking questions, without ever doing any work themselves. This is a forum where you go for information, it's not AskZilvia.com (like AskJeeves.. get it?)

And being a premie doesn't have anything to do with how helpful a member should be. I know of a few jackass premies. :love:

[S14DB]

Motorsports Discussion for Organized Racing

Wrong section. Normally I would move it. But seeing as this is a common question that HAS been discussed A LOT. I am locking this. Search next time.