getting a new dd in a couple months, what would you choose

[nasadriver]

i have a mazdaspeed 3, thing has been a headache and i have a lemon law case going on right now which my attorney assures me i will win, and i am getting a buy back. i will probably get about 18k back.

i am done with new cars, not just now but probably until i am very very rich, if that day ever comes, and i also realized i love cars from the 90's, probably because that is when i grew up and got into this thing.

right now the cars i am looking at getting are:

1. s14 with a vq35 swap. the place that does these swaps is a mile from my house, s14 with a sylvia front end conversion is maybe my favorite looking import of all time that isn't exotic, 300bhp in that body is about exactly what i want, it also has good mod potential, pricey, but good, and even with the stock engine i'd be happy as a dd, should get good gas mileage, be pretty reliable and easy to service.

2. 300zx tt. pain in the ass to work on, not a HUGE fan of the looks but do sorta like them. advantage is that it is extremely reliable, my old roomate had one i helped with the engine swap, they sound incredible with a good exhaust, very nice interior, tons of aftermarket potential.

3. s2000- newest choice. the best car i have ever driven as far as i am concerned, and that includes the new jag xkr, 911, boxster s, s4 and several others (besides my s13 of course). only two seats though, no power to be made in the aftermarket without fi, and the people i see driving it look annoying, lol.

the s14 is really leadng the way for me right now, but is there anything i should know about them, any problems to look for. same goes for the vq.

s2000 i have no worries about it's about the most reliable performance car you can find.

300tt its damn hard to find a good example.


all these cars cost roughly the same. what do you guys think?

[Apossiblehybrid]

s14 is the way to go.

[1989rps13]

get an s2k as a reliable dd only get hardtop though dont go soft on me and get convertible

[ESmorz]

Get a subie. I loves mine.

S13 is one of the best cars you've ever driven?

:rofl:

[Fred Allen Burge]

I loved the Mazda3 I had, sorry to hear you've had such trouble w/yours. Other than that I'd say WRX (esp. Sti).

Fred

[turbo2nr]

350z?

s14 is still a old car 10+yr old yea the motor will be stout, but the chassis and body wont be..

[ZX88]

get an s2000 if its brand new. i heard honda is killing it off after this year.

[jrocslider]

why not a 350Z?

i feel like it would be more reliable than an S14 with a VQ swap.

more power than an S2000

easier to work on than a VG

if you want an S14 with a VQ why not get a Z32 with an RB?

[420sx]

a civic. any 4 banger with good gas mileage and a/c.

a frontier is excellent choice too, plus you will have a truck and it has decent gas mileage.

we are talking a DD here right? why is everyone suggesting sports cars?


i got a bike for dd, sucks in the rain tho.

[VQMaxFan]

Maxima/accord/civic/sentra/frontier/tundra

s14 w/ VQ sounds like a horrible DD

Why a sports car dd?

[TheArkitekt]

i like my subi, but i also live in an area with snow. i would get the s2k in a heartbeat if i didnt live in ohio

[camry]

I'd get the s2k over the 350z. I drove a 350z over the summer and for some reason i couldnt get comfortable in it. Maybe its just me.

[420sx]

im appalled you didn't suggest your forum nick

[Rnz520]

get a wrx or a legacy, they are great.

[VROOOM]

I have a Mazdaspeed3 too. what problems are you having? i havent had any problems with mine, but would just like the info in case anything happens in the future.

[RaceBred 17]

Ford Festiva

[HS13KLS]

350z ftw...

they are a lot of fun to drive. and super comfortable

[Fat Felix]

s2000 is dope, I had an 05 for a while.

pro's: fun to drive, looks modern, handles amazingly, top down = girls have bigger target to throw their panties at you, you rarely have to drive when you go out because your car can only fit one other person

con's: sucks when you have to carry luggage or anything big, hard to talk on cell phone even with top up due to road/wind noise (i was told a hard top helps a lot), top down = haters have a bigger target to throw their bottle/rock/nachos/dead rat/grenade at you

[Jimmy Up]

And the prices on 350z's are coming way down.

I have close to 80k on mine and she is beautiful :D

[silvia13t14]

350z's suk dere pigs i would say either a s14, s2000 or the best way wud be an fd3s rx-7:cool:

[pinkarrowsnow]

350z friend has one its fun, wrx excellent choice what im getting for a daily or STi or evo haha s2k also a excellent choice. 240s suck to daily cause then they turn into a track car for the street and not the most comfortable haha.

[driftsilvias13]

350z's suk dere pigs i would say either a s14, s2000 or the best way wud be an fd3s rx-7:cool:

Why not try typing normally? The 350z is an awsome daily. Ive owned two but the only drawback i can see is space. And how would an rx7 be the "best way"? They are gas guzzlers and are require a lot of attention, esp with heat issues in LA. I would suggest something 4door with a trunk like a wrx.

[Jimmy Up]

350z's suk dere pigs i would say either a s14, s2000 or the best way wud be an fd3s rx-7:cool:


hahahahahahahahahahaha

You are saying that a 350z is a pig? and that a rotory car is the best choice for his daily...

[JoeC1982]

18k will get a nice low mileage(under 40-50k) G35 coupe

[silvia13t14]

:mephfawk:hahahahahahahahahahaha

You are saying that a 350z is a pig? and that a rotory car is the best choice for his daily...
LOL I GUESS U LIK CRAPPY CARS

[silvia13t14]

Why not try typing normally? The 350z is an awsome daily. Ive owned two but the only drawback i can see is space. And how would an rx7 be the "best way"? They are gas guzzlers and are require a lot of attention, esp with heat issues in LA. I would suggest something 4door with a trunk like a wrx.
Yea ur rite about the daily driver but performance wise rotary is the way 2 go

[!Zar!]

S14 with a vq = ref for the most part. Sylvia front? wtf.

Just because you had one bad case with a new car doesn't mean all new cars suck.

Only person I know who had mazdaspeed 3 problems was this ricer who caused them because he had a lead foot.

Yea ur rite about the daily driver but performance wise rotary is the way 2 go

LOfuckingL.

How about you beg the OP for some of that money so you can go to grammar and finishing school.

Because you obviously need some help.

[JohnJohn86]

LOL Mazdaspeed is the Lemon!!! I had a 07, drove for one year for about 20K miles, it was in dealer for like 1 month in total. Blown engine, bad steering bump, axels, check engine lights......pain in the butt.

I got a S2000 now and love it! S2000 FTW

[trsilvias13]

what a sylvia front on a s14? I wonder what I have on my s14? sounds like someone a bandwagon hopper

If it was me, i get a sti and leave it stock.

[!Zar!]

DP for a 09 sti.

Done.

[noname7198]

The s2k is way to small if you are over 6 ft tall. I'm 6'2 and on long trips the thing was horrible. There is also no room for anything and passengers will be uncomfortable because the trans tunnel bumps up at their feet. It handles amazingly, but it's pretty slow.
The 300zx is one of my favorite cars of all time. I've had 3, but I spent more time working on them then driving. They aren't the easiest cars to work on, but they are not as bad as everyone says.
An s14 with a vq sounds like an awesome project, but not a daily driver.

My recommendation would be a g35 coupe. It's a nice balance of practical and fun. It looks good, it's reliable, has a back seat. Gets you where you need to go and decently quick for a DD.

[DataXUnknown]

I think it's a battle between 350z and s2000 on this thread. Personally, I would choose a 350z. To stay in the nissan family, and because it's pretty sick inside and out. I can see how an s2000 is good though. I like the looks of the s2000 more, with that sport package on it.

[dolphin]

2007 4 door civic ex

[turtle m3th]

I personally would look into a v6 mr2. Great gas mileage, cheap swap and fun to drive. Just my 2 cents.

[98koukile]

Hyundai Genesis Coupe? That will be my next car fo sho haha. Base model is under or around 20k

[lukebaumstark]

buy my 89 supra hahahah

[nasadriver]

S14 with a vq = ref for the most part. Sylvia front? wtf.

Just because you had one bad case with a new car doesn't mean all new cars suck.

Only person I know who had mazdaspeed 3 problems was this ricer who caused them because he had a lead foot.



LOfuckingL.

How about you beg the OP for some of that money so you can go to grammar and finishing school.

Because you obviously need some help.

if you want to see why the ms3 is a lemon in general go to mazdas247.com if you like a ricey forum.

or mazdaspeedforums.org if you want to hear from people who know what they are talking about. they are popping left and right, they have a horrible fuel system, cant really handle more than 320whp safely, run leaner than calista flockheart with just a cai, aftermarket fuel pumps run about 500 dollars and still dont address real issues.

if you like to leave your car stock, then yeah, it's a great car, but who buys a turbo car to stay stock? throw a few bolt ons on it and you could potentially be safe. In my case, I was running 1.5 psi over stock and blew going 30mph in second gear, about 3500rpm, everything else stock.

There is a whole thread about ms3's blowing up on mazdaspeedforums.org if you want to have any idea of what you are talking about. I know it's hard to believe that you don't know every ms3 owner in the country, but you don't.

[VROOOM]

if you want to see why the ms3 is a lemon in general go to mazdas247.com if you like a ricey forum.

or mazdaspeedforums.org if you want to hear from people who know what they are talking about. they are popping left and right, they have a horrible fuel system, cant really handle more than 320whp safely, run leaner than calista flockheart with just a cai, aftermarket fuel pumps run about 500 dollars and still dont address real issues.

if you like to leave your car stock, then yeah, it's a great car, but who buys a turbo car to stay stock? throw a few bolt ons on it and you could potentially be safe. In my case, I was running 1.5 psi over stock and blew going 30mph in second gear, about 3500rpm, everything else stock.

There is a whole thread about ms3's blowing up on mazdaspeedforums.org if you want to have any idea of what you are talking about. I know it's hard to believe that you don't know every ms3 owner in the country, but you don't.

what mods did you have?(if you dont want to put them on the forum can you pm with them.)

your right about mazdas247 that site sucks ass

[wikun]

this is supposed to be about a good dd not some s2k vs. 350z poll. and if your looking for a dd why the fuck do you want a VQ swapped s14 and what is sylvia front end on a s14? lol it seems like you are jumping on the bandwagon. just stick to a 09 civic if you want a dd. and if you want to be a little sporty, just get the SI model.

[luckvx]

you had a mazda thats why

[420sx]

still need something efficient

[driftsilvias13]

Toyota Tacoma Double Cab 4x4. Can have 4 passengers and still has a bed to haul parts. Can tow your track car and gets pretty good gas mileage. Also can go offroad and no hassle from the cops. Done.

[Jimmy Up]

Yea ur rite about the daily driver but performance wise rotary is the way 2 go


Well read the title before you go for the middle finger guy, thats offensive.

EDIT: and with that said- something low maintainance, either good on gas or towing capabilities (which ever suits you)

You have TONS of options in the 15K range...

[atom]

Those are all shitty DD's........all those cars you listed are better off as 2nd cars.

E36 M3 for DD

[420sx]

unreliable as fuck and when you break stuff dealer rapes you on parts. no thanks.

they are very very fun cars however

[Pacman]

DD = Daily Driver

Get a Scion. I work on them (Toyota tech) and they are EASY to work on. Go for new xD (get the Series Edition in burnt orange, yummy) or a tC. I know they say tC's are chicks cars but screw it, it'd be a fun DD. With that amount of money you're getting back, you can have a brand new car, with a factory warranty, paid off, and honestly, I can't think of anything really going wrong with them, unlike other Toyota's.

Why buy something old with much more problems then your Mazda? I'm sure it'll be the case.

http://www.autospectator.com/cars/files/images/2008-Scion-xD-RS-1-0-01.jpg
http://smgenglish.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/18/02_08xd_rs10.jpg
I saw one at work, lowered on black rims we were selling. I really liked it. They remind me as if the xA and xB had a baby... :ughd:

[atom]

unreliable as fuck and when you break stuff dealer rapes you on parts. no thanks.

they are very very fun cars however

Keep it stock-ish for a DD and perform the regular maintinence and they really aren't that bad. But yeah if something does go wrong you're gonna pay a bit.

I just looked up the price of my DD on edmunds (2006 IS250) and it's 19k. It's been an awesome DD. Zero problems so far.

[unlegendary]

i read ur posts dude, just buy a truck. a s14 with a vq, having a shop do it, most likely they'll just put a standalone in it, and ur still fucked because the shop will take most of your money and you can't even ref your car lol.

for your benefit just get the truck to tow your sr'd 240sx to the track. a tacoma is nice.

[tanks13]

yo buy this man http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/236025-2001-gpw-s2000-62-xxx-red-interior.html

[Psycho 240 Freak]

For a dd, I'd get the S2000. It comes with the Honda's reputation of reliability and is the newest one out of your option. If it was me and I wanted a sports car as a dd, I'd add a few more thousand and get a used C6 Corvette. 400 hp and 25 mpg on the freeway. Also, it's been mentioned numerous times in Motortrend and Car and Driver as being very suitable for dd.

[JVDSKYRINE]

I second gettting an STI for a daily driver! why get a car like a 350 or s2000 for a dd I know girls with more room in their box then the car has....Why not a G35 at least it has 4 seats although the rear are tiny....My dad has a 350 and i borrowed it to go to the beach and I couldn't even fit a cooler in the trunk lol Gheyness.

Also you could look at VIP cars of some sort why not just get something comfy and styling? I bought a versa for my DD its good on gas and has lots of room for a tiny car and it was cheap and brand new I have never been happier with a purchase.

[zerke]

buy my scion tc. they look sick with this wing:
http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u338/downut310/ntnsracing_2038_7298053.jpg


Girls also dig the TC's shape and will love you.

Also, it has good rear room, ipod and mp3 player, decent stock sound system, sexy A/C, and it handles well for a FF. It is also compact and you can easily supercharge it or turbo it if you really wanted to.

[zerke]

DD = Daily Driver

Get a Scion. I work on them (Toyota tech) and they are EASY to work on. Go for new xD (get the Series Edition in burnt orange, yummy) or a tC. I know they say tC's are chicks cars but screw it, it'd be a fun DD. With that amount of money you're getting back, you can have a brand new car, with a factory warranty, paid off, and honestly, I can't think of anything really going wrong with them, unlike other Toyota's.

Why buy something old with much more problems then your Mazda? I'm sure it'll be the case.

http://www.autospectator.com/cars/files/images/2008-Scion-xD-RS-1-0-01.jpg
http://smgenglish.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/05/18/02_08xd_rs10.jpg
I saw one at work, lowered on black rims we were selling. I really liked it. They remind me as if the xA and xB had a baby... :ughd:

TC is not a chicks car. go die! ;)

[BustedS13]

top down = haters have a bigger target to throw their bottle/rock/nachos/dead rat/grenade at you

that almost never happens though. i've had three convertibles and i've had shit thrown at me twice (possibly three times, i found a cigarette in the back of my m30). the second time though, i happened to have a back seat full of airsoft weaponry. i idiotically pulled out a USP and waved it around, and they took off like none other.

moral of the story:

http://i39.tinypic.com/2vseufc.png

[!Zar!]

if you want to see why the ms3 is a lemon in general go to mazdas247.com if you like a ricey forum.

or mazdaspeedforums.org if you want to hear from people who know what they are talking about. they are popping left and right, they have a horrible fuel system, cant really handle more than 320whp safely, run leaner than calista flockheart with just a cai, aftermarket fuel pumps run about 500 dollars and still dont address real issues.

if you like to leave your car stock, then yeah, it's a great car, but who buys a turbo car to stay stock? throw a few bolt ons on it and you could potentially be safe. In my case, I was running 1.5 psi over stock and blew going 30mph in second gear, about 3500rpm, everything else stock.

There is a whole thread about ms3's blowing up on mazdaspeedforums.org if you want to have any idea of what you are talking about. I know it's hard to believe that you don't know every ms3 owner in the country, but you don't.
I understand where you are coming from, but it isn't mazda's fault people are putting parts that weren't intended on it and then blowing the motor.

Most turbo mazda's are maxed out in the performance category.

Putting intake and exhaust parts on the car raises the boost.

Raising boost without raising the amounts of fuel the engine receives is stupid.

That is part of the reason why so many people blow rotary cars.

It isn't the company's fault the people modifying the car is stupid and or uneducated.
buy my scion tc. they look sick with this wing:
http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u338/downut310/ntnsracing_2038_7298053.jpg


Girls also dig the TC's shape and will love you.

Also, it has good rear room, ipod and mp3 player, decent stock sound system, sexy A/C, and it handles well for a FF. It is also compact and you can easily supercharge it or turbo it if you really wanted to.

I'm sure girls love the TC is a girls car. No matter what mod you do to it.

[zerke]

I understand where you are coming from, but it isn't mazda's fault people are putting parts that weren't intended on it and then blowing the motor.

Most turbo mazda's are maxed out in the performance category.

Putting intake and exhaust parts on the car raises the boost.

Raising boost without raising the amounts of fuel the engine receives is stupid.

That is part of the reason why so many people blow rotary cars.

It isn't the company's fault the people modifying the car is stupid and or uneducated.


I'm sure girls love the TC is a girls car. No matter what mod you do to it.


lol keep bashing the car you insecure piece of shit haha

[!Zar!]

So your resort to name calling?

Way to act immature.

It has nothing to do with insecurities.

If that were the case I would've have gotten into 240's which were marked towards FEMALE SECRETARY'S in particular.

[Somnambulist]

My vote goes to WRX/STi or G35.
Depends on how much room you want.

[zerke]

So your resort to name calling?

Way to act immature.

It has nothing to do with insecurities.

If that were the case I would've have gotten into 240's which were marked towards FEMALE SECRETARY'S in particular.

Whoa there buddy. I think you don't know what "marked" means. I think you wanted to say "marketed". And the way you are using not only the wrong word, but applying it very weakly clearly shows your ignorance.

First of all, car marketing when it comes to gender hardly never works. Marketing only works in specific cases in which gender is CLEARLY distinguishable.

You proved yourself wrong when you said that 240s were "marked" for female secretaries. How many guys here are female secretaries?
Marketing doesn't mean shit buddy when it comes to circumstances such as these. Nothing can predict the market 100%.

Also, didn't your mother tell you that stereotypes are logical flaws? You displayed this by saying that scions are "girls cars".

Man, it is painful to read your reply. I was expecting something smarter.

Go to school. Get educated before you start spamming your ignorance on the world wide web.

[Blacksilvy]

I understand where you are coming from, but it isn't mazda's fault people are putting parts that weren't intended on it and then blowing the motor.

Most turbo mazda's are maxed out in the performance category.

Putting intake and exhaust parts on the car raises the boost.

Raising boost without raising the amounts of fuel the engine receives is stupid.

That is part of the reason why so many people blow rotary cars.

It isn't the company's fault the people modifying the car is stupid and or uneducated.


I'm sure girls love the TC is a girls car. No matter what mod you do to it.


as far as the speed3 goes this is very true. the car already runs at 16psi boost stock and the turbo is only efficient to about 6k or so. it doesnt even pull to redline. also the thing about the speed3 motors many people do not know about is those engines actually have 2 fuel pumps. 1 in tanks and then one next to the rail to convert it to high pressure. so that needs to be considered and if u want to upgrade the injectors good luck, you have to removed the intake manifold, the fuel rail and then each injector is individually bolted to the head with bolts that you have to use torx sockets on. I work at a mazda dealer and had to replace the engine in a speed the recently and the thing was a pain in the a**. good car for daily and minimal upgrades but that is all. anymore and thats the motor. I like working for mazda for a living and the cars are enjoyable but i love my s13 and would take it any day over most new cars in the 20k range. but thats jus my 2 psi. :cj:

[VROOOM]

Whoa there buddy. I think you don't know what "marked" means. I think you wanted to say "marketed". And the way you are using not only the wrong word, but applying it very weakly clearly shows your ignorance.

First of all, car marketing when it comes to gender hardly never works. Marketing only works in specific cases in which gender is CLEARLY distinguishable.

You proved yourself wrong when you said that 240s were "marked" for female secretaries. How many guys here are female secretaries?
Marketing doesn't mean shit buddy when it comes to circumstances such as these. Nothing can predict the market 100%.

Also, didn't your mother tell you that stereotypes are logical flaws? You displayed this by saying that scions are "girls cars".

Man, it is painful to read your reply. I was expecting something smarter.

Go to school. Get educated before you start spamming your ignorance on the world wide web.


they were marketed towards secretaries, and they didnt even sell well the last few years they were made. i remember them on dealer lots well into 1999. they only recently have become popular with enthusiasts. back in 1996 when i got my first one you couldnt even find parts for them.

[zerke]

they were marketed towards secretaries, and they didnt even sell well the last few years they were made. i remember them on dealer lots well into 1999. they only recently have become popular with enthusiasts. back in 1996 when i got my first one you couldnt even find parts for them.


LOL...exactly what are you trying to point out? I can't even tell if you're trying to disprove me or further prove my point.

[silpena]

why not get a c5? i mean for 18k you can get something pretty good. I saw c5z06 for under 17k the other day... id pick that. IN matter of fact...i want one lol.

[!Zar!]

Whoa there buddy. I think you don't know what "marked" means. I think you wanted to say "marketed". And the way you are using not only the wrong word, but applying it very weakly clearly shows your ignorance.

First of all, car marketing when it comes to gender hardly never works. Marketing only works in specific cases in which gender is CLEARLY distinguishable.

You proved yourself wrong when you said that 240s were "marked" for female secretaries. How many guys here are female secretaries?
Marketing doesn't mean shit buddy when it comes to circumstances such as these. Nothing can predict the market 100%.

Also, didn't your mother tell you that stereotypes are logical flaws? You displayed this by saying that scions are "girls cars".

Man, it is painful to read your reply. I was expecting something smarter.

Go to school. Get educated before you start spamming your ignorance on the world wide web.
I typoed and said, "marked" instead of, "marketed". Stop trying to jump on something that you KNOW I was meaning to say.

ALL cars have a market place. So me saying that a particular car works well for a demography of people isn't out of line nor stereotypical.

Expecting a reply smarter?

Sorry I didn't resort to name calling you, nor talking about what your mother did/didn't do.

As for me going to school, how about you learn how to form a proper sentence. "Get educated" is a HORRIBLE way to start off a statement. But it's ok... you're upset because I said the scion tc is primarily a girls car.

as far as the speed3 goes this is very true. the car already runs at 16psi boost stock and the turbo is only efficient to about 6k or so. it doesnt even pull to redline. also the thing about the speed3 motors many people do not know about is those engines actually have 2 fuel pumps. 1 in tanks and then one next to the rail to convert it to high pressure. so that needs to be considered and if u want to upgrade the injectors good luck, you have to removed the intake manifold, the fuel rail and then each injector is individually bolted to the head with bolts that you have to use torx sockets on. I work at a mazda dealer and had to replace the engine in a speed the recently and the thing was a pain in the a**. good car for daily and minimal upgrades but that is all. anymore and thats the motor. I like working for mazda for a living and the cars are enjoyable but i love my s13 and would take it any day over most new cars in the 20k range. but thats jus my 2 psi. :cj:
Glad someone noticed what I was talking about towards the car.

they were marketed towards secretaries, and they didnt even sell well the last few years they were made. i remember them on dealer lots well into 1999. they only recently have become popular with enthusiasts. back in 1996 when i got my first one you couldnt even find parts for them.
Thank you.

LOL...exactly what are you trying to point out? I can't even tell if you're trying to disprove me or further prove my point.

He was AGREEING with me in that the 240sx was marketed towards secretaries; which were normally women at the time.

Sorry he didn't join you in your vendetta you have against me and all people who dislike Scion TC's.

[ranger240]

man up and dd something old unreliable and uncomfortable.. credit markets have killed appreciation on pre 74 911s.. if you want something reliable get a sbc muscle car or something stupid. it'll make for good stories later on in your life when you want to strike up interesting conversation

[Pacman]

TC is not a chicks car. go die! ;)
Its nice to see what someone that is still in adult ed tell someone to go die when making a statment about a car. WOW! Its really sad to see Zilvia going downhill with little punks like this. I'm sure I know more about tC's then most being that I WORK FOR TOYOTA. Hell, I'd say go get a Miata as those are pretty fun little cars but due to the impracticallity, I'd say no <---also not a known masculine car. But I'm not hear to have a pissing contest, though.

How about a TSX? I got to have one overnight so the monitors could be set for smog and damn was that an enjoyable car to drive. They look pretty darned good too.

It is also compact and you can easily supercharge it or turbo it if you really wanted to.
FYI and anyone else, stay away from the TRD supercharger for the tC. I've seen multiple come in for replacments; one car on its fourth. Its gotta be the design. The 3.4L and the 4.7 superchargers did well. The 5.7's are too new with the supercharger. THATS WHAT YOU SHOULD GET!!! A Platinum Edition Sequoia with a supercharger!!!

[zerke]

I typoed and said, "marked" instead of, "marketed". Stop trying to jump on something that you KNOW I was meaning to say.

ALL cars have a market place. So me saying that a particular car works well for a demography of people isn't out of line nor stereotypical.

Expecting a reply smarter?

Sorry I didn't resort to name calling you, nor talking about what your mother did/didn't do.

As for me going to school, how about you learn how to form a proper sentence. "Get educated" is a HORRIBLE way to start off a statement. But it's ok... you're upset because I said the scion tc is primarily a girls car.



He was AGREEING with me in that the 240sx was marketed towards secretaries; which were normally women at the time.

Sorry he didn't join you in your vendetta you have against me and all people who dislike Scion TC's.

"Expecting a reply smarter"


As for my "get educated" bit, this is the fucking internet not an english class.

Your reply doesn't even agree grammar wise!

LOL!!

Ok dude, you didn't really understand what I said but it's ok. All I'm saying is that the 'theoretical' marketing doesn't always work and there is evidence of that. And you using this theoretical marketing as your main idea is not very smart of you because it is weak and can be attacked by something as simple as a person's opinion. So you stating that a certain car is a "(insert gender here)'s car" is not only flawed but who the hell are you to say that?


LOL I'm done there is nothign else I can say. and you will probably reply with nothing intersting enough for me to talk about regarding this issue.

[zerke]

Its nice to see what someone that is still in adult ed tell someone to go die when making a statment about a car. WOW! Its really sad to see Zilvia going downhill with little punks like this. I'm sure I know more about tC's then most being that I WORK FOR TOYOTA. Hell, I'd say go get a Miata as those are pretty fun little cars but due to the impracticallity, I'd say no <---also not a known masculine car. But I'm not hear to have a pissing contest, though.

How about a TSX? I got to have one overnight so the monitors could be set for smog and damn was that an enjoyable car to drive. They look pretty darned good too.


FYI and anyone else, stay away from the TRD supercharger for the tC. I've seen multiple come in for replacments; one car on its fourth. Its gotta be the design. The 3.4L and the 4.7 superchargers did well. The 5.7's are too new with the supercharger. THATS WHAT YOU SHOULD GET!!! A Platinum Edition Sequoia with a supercharger!!!

as far as my comment it was not to be taken literally, obviously. I love your lengthy reply to a useless comment of mine. You're a really sensitive fuck huh? All I meant to say was that I disagreed with your opinion. It wasn't even meant to be taken in an aggressive sense.
"adult ed".......wtf lol

[!Zar!]

Someone's acting like a cornered dog.

When he said, "Adult ed" he was talking about, "Adult Education". But that's just an educated guess on my part.

So far all you've done is verbally attacked people like a child in a futile attempt to get your point across.

You should be able to have an educated debate without verbal attacks.

Yes, this is the internet, but it doesn't mean you can go around making horrid sentences that don't make sense.

Right now this is all that many people have to go by. So if you want to come across as a nineteen year old who can't speak properly nor hold a conversation, then by my guest.