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4x4le

01-22-2009, 08:00 PM

Hello,
I'm a NIStune authorized dealer. I would simply like to be here to tell people about it and answer their questions.

Nistune is a software program that enables you to datalog and realtime tune the factory ecu with a NIStune board, a standard daughter board, or a calum board.

Let there be no mistake, I'm not on here trying to sell it to you guys on within this thread or advertise it and the purpose of this thread is not to contain any discussion of prices or where to get it from. My drift car has been sponsored by NIStune before I became a dealer of it. I'm not on here trying to sell NIStune to you guys, I just want to help inform people about it because allot of the information I see posted on the net seems to be written in a way that its easy to go over many peoples heads. I want to answer your questions untill you have a firm understanding about it.

Here are some screen shots of the software.
http://www.nistune.com/pics/scn1a.jpg
http://www.nistune.com/pics/scn2a.jpg
http://www.nistune.com/pics/scn3a.jpg
http://www.nistune.com/pics/screen3.jpg
http://www.nistune.com/pics/screen5.jpg

If anyone has any NIStune related questions I will answer them for you.
Also if you have any questions about other methods of tuning I can try my best to help too.

One thing I WILL NOT DO is provide any bin files or base maps. I see too much liability there and it kind of goes against the idea of tuning your own ecu, the reason we want to tune our own ecu is to get away from bench made tunes.
I also cannot teach people how to tune. If you have a nistune setup and are wanting some pointers I can help you there but I will not walk you through the entire process because there would be too much liability on my end. If your unsure how to tune but want a well tuned car, any good tuning shop should be able to make quick work with your setup.

Please use this thread for any questions you have about NIStune. It seems as if I have let too many other peoples threads get jacked because people want to ask me questions and that is uncool on my part.

I would also like to give everyone a free trial of the software! It may help with everyones understanding of the program or to see how it differs from what you use currently. This free trial can only be opened 1 time after you put in the trial regestration! So open it when your ready to look at it and have enough time. If you dont close the program, or power off your computer you can have it opened for several days. I had my free trial open for over a week personally untill we lost power at the house. That was a pretty good while ago however lol.

Any ways here is the link to download the free trial program.
Free NIStune trial (http://www.nistune.com/secret_squirrel/NIStune_0.9.3.5_setup.exe)
Download that first and install it and then download the rom pack. (http://www.nistune.com/secret_squirrel/NIStune_ROM_Pack_2.0.exe)
The rom pack will ask to install in the same folder as nistune and select yes.
The regestration for the trial of NIStune is as follows.
name:trial
email:trial

I hope I can be of help to you guys!

HOBBS240

01-22-2009, 08:24 PM

Is NIStune a standalone or piggy back?

4x4le

01-22-2009, 08:56 PM

Is NIStune a standalone or piggy back?

It is neither actually. Nistune is a software program that allows you to edit nissan bin files. If equipped with a nistune real time board, and certain other daughter boards it will allow you to real time your ecu. It would be more comparable to a standalone though if you had to compare it to one of your options.

4x4le

01-23-2009, 11:41 PM

Someone asked me a question in another thread and since I didnt want to end up steeling the guys thread I posted it here for the answer.
I talk to Brandon acouple of days ago about a nistune for my ka and he was extremely helpful. I don't know much about the tuning realm of the sr or ka world but he took his time in explaining how some off the stuff works. I dont even have an ecu from him yet but he was explaining how good they were and i was SOLD! Il def be getting a nistune from him in the next week or 2. My only question is, if i get my tune somewhat good and bring it to a tuner to have him fine polish it can i just bring the software to him with all my user information and use his laptop? Are you able to install the software on more than one computer?

Some tuners will happen to have a license for nistune already. You can bring them the software too, no biggy. If they try to use it on other peoples cars, after a few times its going to lock them out of it anyways if it was just a single user license. I would not share my tuner version though.
This has made me think, and I think im going to suggest a new type of software license to nistune. Ill give details later.

DALAZ_68

02-11-2009, 09:18 AM

got my Nistune, works perfectly, the only issue im having currently is running my UEGO on it due to my laptop being Vista... :(

Hyperterminal was removed in vista...so im semi SOL

HOBBS240

02-14-2009, 10:38 PM

It is neither actually. Nistune is a software program that allows you to edit nissan bin files. If equipped with a nistune real time board, and certain other daughter boards it will allow you to real time your ecu. It would be more comparable to a standalone though if you had to compare it to one of your options.

So in comparison if you know much about the Evo. Is this a logging and a tuning software in one?? The Evo has Evoscan and ECUflash to adjust everything that they need to. Is that how that this program is?? But you say that it is realtime adjustable so does that mean that you would not need to shut the car off to flash and adjust?

4x4le

02-14-2009, 11:42 PM

So in comparison if you know much about the Evo. Is this a logging and a tuning software in one?? The Evo has Evoscan and ECUflash to adjust everything that they need to. Is that how that this program is?? But you say that it is realtime adjustable so does that mean that you would not need to shut the car off to flash and adjust?

Sorry, I dont know much about the evo personally. However nistune is a logging and tuning program in one. The boards are not capable of logging by them selves as some standalones are capable of, but you can log any time you have your laptop hooked up in the car.

And by real time tunable, I mean whenever you have your laptop synked with your ecu any time you make an adjustment it is reflected immediatly on your ecu in the ram memory. In order to make it a perminate change for the next time you start up the car you need to hit the burn button before shutting the car off. Hitting the burn button is seemless and instant and will not effect how your car runs for even a second.

HOBBS240

02-15-2009, 03:49 PM

Yeah that sounds pretty close to a standalone. But the Evo has two programs it has a logging and then a flashing software.
But this sounds like something that my friend would be good with since he use to have the evo.
Its nice that you dont have to shut the car down in order to tune the car. What Widebands will work with this? AEM, Zeitronix, or any others? lol can't think of the names of others.

4x4le

02-15-2009, 07:14 PM

Aem and zeitronix work for sure, as well as Innovate. I personally use innovate widebands and love them. I have a customer that is having trouble getting his aem to work but its more of an aem/vista problem. You will have to be able to get your wideband to work with your laptop before it will work with nistune.

slider2828

02-16-2009, 01:11 AM

Damn it, I broke down and got a PFC DJetro..... with a good tune on it.... sucks.... oh welllz

HOBBS240

02-16-2009, 06:21 PM

Ok so one more question. Since I have OBD1 what cable would i buy? Does it work with OBD1?

4x4le

02-16-2009, 07:27 PM

The pmls cable works the best with nistune as nistune was developed with the plms consult cable although nistune is not "locked out" from other cables. Any high quality consult cable will work, if it dont work, you probably got it from ebay....

Type 1 boards dont need consult cables, just plug a usb cable right in your ecu.
We keep the plms consult cables in stock.

Syncade

02-16-2009, 08:59 PM

I wish there were some authorized tuners by me

4x4le

02-16-2009, 09:39 PM

I wish there were some authorized tuners by me

I would not let that be what holds me back.
There are many shops that tune nistune systems that are not an "authorized dealer/tuner". There are a few requirements that some shops dont want to waste their time in order to meet in order to become "authorized". Many of them dont want to sell the setups, they are just mostly interested in being able to tune a setup when it comes through the door, and you are some what expected to be able to move some product if you want to be "authorized".
So like I said, there are many shops that happen to be very famarliar with the nistune software and just dont happen to be reconized by NIStune Australia. Also, any decent shop that tunes standalones and various other ecu setups should be able to make simple work out of nistune. Sure they would want to read up on it just a little or play around with the program to get familiar with different things such as load limits, and how to scale the maps, but any decent tuning shop that has tuned MAF based systems should not have any trouble tuning the nistune setup.

landins13

02-24-2009, 12:50 PM

so for an obd1 red top sr20 which one would i order, what kind of cable do i need (standard usb)? and the appropriate software will come with it?

DALAZ_68

02-24-2009, 01:05 PM

my HB has been sitting since i got NIStune...i picked up a daily...its mad at me for not driving it around...its awesome...ima post up a vid later in the week f how it looks when it connected to the car while driving

4x4le

02-24-2009, 01:08 PM

so for an obd1 red top sr20 which one would i order, what kind of cable do i need (standard usb)? and the appropriate software will come with it?

For the red top you need the type 3 board. You need a consult cable. You also need a working consult port installed or your factory one wired in properly.

Some places sale everything all together. Some people sale most of it together and it seems like a good price untill you see that you have to get a consult port seperate.

We sale everything seperate.

landins13

02-24-2009, 02:41 PM

For the red top you need the type 3 board. You need a consult cable. You also need a working consult port installed or your factory one wired in properly.

so im not entirelly getting this, i priced it up and its gonna be 550 in parts if i do the labor, plus i need a consult port added to the car, its an obd1 car with and obd1 motor and an obd1 ecu so why do i need to wire in a consult port to make this work, and how much is that going to cost, im just comparing price and function, because i can pick up a power fc for 550 and this is seeming to be more of a hassle then i originally thought.

drifter_for_life06

02-24-2009, 04:39 PM

yea, seems a little more involved now that it originally seemed at the beginning of the thread, either way im still interested....does a blacktop s13 SR require the same type 3 board as a redtop?

drifter_for_life06

02-24-2009, 06:19 PM

4x4le

02-24-2009, 06:23 PM

so im not entirelly getting this, i priced it up and its gonna be 550 in parts if i do the labor, plus i need a consult port added to the car, its an obd1 car with and obd1 motor and an obd1 ecu so why do i need to wire in a consult port to make this work, and how much is that going to cost, im just comparing price and function, because i can pick up a power fc for 550 and this is seeming to be more of a hassle then i originally thought.

No, Im not sure where the confusion is coming from. Where did you get your prices from too? On our site (which Im not trying to promote but just using it as an example) the total cost would only be $510 and that would be with us doing the install for you. If your car is a 91-98 and the wiring harness was done properly your factory consult port will work correctly. If not its a simple couple of wires and we can throw in a port with your order.

yea, seems a little more involved now that it originally seemed at the beginning of the thread, either way im still interested....does a blacktop s13 SR require the same type 3 board as a redtop?

Trust me, if the swap was done properly it is as easy as shipping your ecu off to a nistune dealer and then re installing the ecu back into your car. I cannot be held acountable for people that dont do the wiring correctly and even then all you have to do is hook up a few wires. We send the instructions along with a consult port by request if needed.

Now for your question consirning the blacktop s13 sr, some of them are type 3 and some are type 4. The J4 ecu is type 4, all of the other s13 sr20det (red and black top) share the type 3 board.

4x4le

02-24-2009, 06:28 PM

i downloaded the trial....is it supposed to say "Trial Expired" everytime I try to open NIStune? It worked the first time I opened it, now I have to uninstall, then reinstall the .exe files to play with it again...is that normal or did i do something wrong?

On another note...I like the program...granted i cant do everything its capable of since its a trial...but thus far, it seems good/easy to use

Thanks for downloading it and giving us your feedback on it. I tried to give fair warning about it only being able to open up 1 time in the first post right before I posted the links and the free trial info. I honestly dont know what you will have to do in order to get it to work again without purchasing the program. Im sure the NIStune developers didnt make it easy however otherwise no one would ever buy the program.

I would also like to give everyone a free trial of the software! It may help with everyones understanding of the program or to see how it differs from what you use currently. This free trial can only be opened 1 time after you put in the trial regestration! So open it when your ready to look at it and have enough time. If you dont close the program, or power off your computer you can have it opened for several days. I had my free trial open for over a week personally untill we lost power at the house. That was a pretty good while ago however lol.

drifter_for_life06

02-24-2009, 07:27 PM

cool, thanks for the feedback. I feel stupid...i read you're warning and yet I still posted that....running on no sleep for the past 36 hours is making me loopy and forgetful :(

4x4le

02-24-2009, 08:44 PM

No worries. I feel your pain.

I feel bad that Im trying to answer peoples questions as thoroughly as possible to my best capabilities instead of just giving short answers and having them figure it out for themselves, but I seem to be just adding to the confusion.

If anyone has any questions at all about anything please ask me to clarify anything for you. I will be happy to do so. I work with nistune setups everyday so even though Im not trying to be over anyones head I may still be on accident. It really is a simple thing and I may be over complicating it for yall.

SuicidnS13

05-17-2009, 09:54 PM

So what exactly am I going to need parts and all for my s14 which is running an rb20det? Im going to push the rb20 to its limits and then swap it over for a built rb25 long block still running the rb20 tranny, harness, ect.... Will my car need a consult port added?

bewst pewp

05-17-2009, 10:05 PM

so basically it's like flash tuning correct?

GSXRJJordan

05-18-2009, 03:58 AM

Nistune for RB25 (ECR33) any time soon?

4x4le

05-18-2009, 09:10 PM

Nistune for RB25 (ECR33) any time soon?

This is from Matt @ NIStune.
We are thinknig about doing a board for R33 RB25DE/RB25DET but it involves a fair amount of work, and the parts to interface with the existing 84 pin MCU on this ECU. It is a very difficult board to get started on and requires whole new firmware code to be implemented, whilst supporting customers with our existing product line. I will start drafting schematics once Type 5 has been finished and we have got the knock sensing functionality working.
If you are looking for something to get these going then we suggest either using a HCR32 Skyline or Z32 300ZX ECU with a Type 2 board.

And honestly he is spot on with using a z32 ecu. I honestly recommend that rb guys use z32 ecus because they are more common here in the states in case you need to replace your ecu. There is like 5 wires you need to change around, no biggy.

GSXRJJordan

05-18-2009, 09:18 PM

This is from Matt @ NIStune.

*knowledge*

And honestly he is spot on with using a z32 ecu. I honestly recommend that rb guys use z32 ecus because they are more common here in the states in case you need to replace your ecu. There is like 5 wires you need to change around, no biggy.

Nice, good tip! I'll keep that in mind as a cost-effective option when I go top mount/GT30, rather than AEM, Haltec, or PFC.

hottscennessey

05-28-2009, 03:43 PM

Question:
Does Nistune allow me to open, and resave my .bin's in .bin format. Or is it going to be .nis or something foreign and encrypted like that?

Sometimes I like to bust out the hex editor.

xs240

05-28-2009, 03:46 PM

i cant wait to get mine so badly... need some $$$ :(

4x4le

05-28-2009, 03:47 PM

Question:
Does Nistune allow me to open, and resave my .bin's in .bin format. Or is it going to be .nis or something foreign and encrypted like that?

Sometimes I like to bust out the hex editor.

Yep, it just uses normal bin files. None of that biki rom bull crap kind of stuff going on here!

You can even download tunes off of other peoples ecus through the consult port to look and see what they have going on.

GSXRJJordan

05-28-2009, 03:48 PM

Yep, it just uses normal bin files. None of that biki rom bull crap kind of stuff going on here!

You can even download tunes off of other peoples ecus through the consult port to look and see what they have going on.

That's sooooooo cool lol. Makes me wanna find a consult plug and put it into my re-loomed harness, before I heat shrink everything...

Z32 NA ecus use a different ECU connector than the S1 RB25's right?

4x4le

05-28-2009, 03:54 PM

to the best of my knowlege no. Im not on the up and up on rb's though.

Personally I mostly deal with s13 sr's and ka's. (ask me something about one of them so I dont look dumb j/k)

hottscennessey

05-28-2009, 03:58 PM

Yea, that's huge. I'll proceed reading now :).

xs240

05-28-2009, 04:03 PM

I have an s13 ka with tons of boltons... ill be looking forward to asking questions away in here when i get mine :D

hottscennessey

05-28-2009, 04:18 PM

5. Individual License and Tuners License Differences We have been working with and received quite a number of queries and requests from workshops with what NIStune will cost for the workshop. NIStune has now been split into two users licenses.
(a) Individual users license
- Intended for those who wish to purchase one or few boards, only needing address files for those boards for personal interest
- Limited to three address files, and five differerent ECU IDs that can be tuned in real-time
(b) Tuners license
- Intended for those in the business of tuning. ie primarily workshops. Those who wish to either run NIStune with emluators and daughterboards, or wish to tune using our RealTime boards
- Provided with complete set of Nissan address files with maptracing information
- Unlimited emulator and boards supported
- Discount prices on boards, and further discount on quantity boards ordered.

Just to be clear. Maptracing IS included in the individual license, correct? This is just reiterating that all the address files include maptracing?

Please correct me if necessary.

4x4le

05-28-2009, 09:00 PM

Wow, that is worded badly. Good catch! You do have maptracing capabilities with the single user license so no worries. You also have all of the address files.
I guess the reason they worded it that way is because with the single users license you are limited to be able to only open 3 different address files. The first 3 address files you open are the 3 address files your allowed to do tunes for. Then you are only able to connect to 5 different ecus which must be of the 3 address files you have chosen. You do not have to choose the 3 address files up front but just remember not to go opening different addresses for no reason. Say if you have a s14 with a ka in it that would be 1 ecu and 1 address file. Now you can tune up to 4 more s14 ka's. Or say if you end up getting a 300zx that would be your 2nd address file and your 2nd of 5 ecus you can connect to.

You have maptracing capabilities with either license, the ONLY thing that is limited on the cheaper license is how much usage you have on the software by limiting the address files and ecus. The single user license is intended for people that may have a couple nissans or a friend or 2 with nissans. The tuners license is for someone that has a business or plans on making a few bucks tuning other peoples cars.

hottscennessey

05-28-2009, 09:19 PM

Great. that's exactly how I read it.. I just had to do a double take and wanted to make sure! Thanks!

hottscennessey

05-30-2009, 08:59 PM

Is there anyone using the calum RT ECU's built-in consult with Nistune?

After messing with it for a while I got the program to successfully emulate, I'm still not entirely sure what finally made it work. I'm at a loss though, because I can't get the consult to sync. It works with my other consult programs just fine.

4x4le

05-31-2009, 12:00 AM

Im sorry to say I wont be able to help with that. I know nothing really about the procedures on how to get it working with nistune on a calium ecu. Since you are a license holder feel free to join the forum on NIStune.com
I dont mind answering questions I can answer from potential users or current users of nistune but the nistune forum is great for people that already have a license because that entire forum is full of people that have many different kinds of setups running nistune.

SidewayZ-s14

06-03-2009, 10:03 PM

GSXRJJordan

06-03-2009, 10:26 PM

You'll still need to have it tuned. Even if they load up a basemap that's close, you'll want it tuned for your engine/car anyway.

SidewayZ-s14

06-03-2009, 11:03 PM

You'll still need to have it tuned. Even if they load up a basemap that's close, you'll want it tuned for your engine/car anyway.

Oh, ok!
Makes sense.

4x4le

06-05-2009, 10:06 PM

So i send my ECU to have the daughter board put in, and when i receive the ECU back it will be tuned to what i have on my car or do i still need to take it somewhere to have it tuned?

I'm really looking forward to purchasing nistune!

It will come with the tune that would have came on the ecu stock from nissan
VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

You'll still need to have it tuned. Even if they load up a basemap that's close, you'll want it tuned for your engine/car anyway.

This is very true. We really try to not put on base tunes for people just because as Im sure you can believe people will want to drive on that forever. They are much better off needing to get tuned because then they will actually go do it.

Nistune is a solution for easily being able to tune the stock ecu, and being able to get away from commercially pre tuned ecus and to be able to avoid the prices of standalones while still essentially being able to tune in the same manner as standalones and being better and cheaper than many of your cheaper stand alones.

Your car is only as good as the tune it runs on and it is the thing too many people skimp on. This gives you the ability to skimp on price a little just because nistune is not that expensive but still end up with a fully custom tuned car.

SilviaSR20DET

06-05-2009, 10:08 PM

sorry responded to wrong post lol

landins13

06-05-2009, 10:24 PM

i see that nistune comes with a basemap but is there a way to get a basemap for what mods you have, and start fine tuning from there. or do you have to start at stock and modify from there. also in the nistune software, when you change the injector size will it automatically compensate for it or do you have to go and manually change all of the values for the new injectors?

boosted_kouki

06-06-2009, 07:20 AM

landins13

06-07-2009, 01:34 AM

if you go under operations tab, there is a "resize injectors" option

yeah ive gone into that portion, you can also change the maf your using my only issue is, does it automatically reconfigure the tune for the difference in injector size, or does it just let nistune know your using those injectors and you still have to tune the map for it?

this is of the utmost importance, because on monday im either ordering nistune or a rom tuned ecu

4x4le

06-07-2009, 01:47 AM

yeah ive gone into that portion, you can also change the maf your using my only issue is, does it automatically reconfigure the tune for the difference in injector size, or does it just let nistune know your using those injectors and you still have to tune the map for it?

this is of the utmost importance, because on monday im either ordering nistune or a rom tuned ecu

Well the short answer is no. It does calibrate most things but it will by no means have you tuned. Basicially it keeps your car with the ability to start and usually drive but it will need attention. You have to tune it still.
That shouldnt be a turn off though, that is actually whats good about it because you can end up with a fully custom tuned ecu and tune your ecu in the same manner as you tune a stand alone.

Pre tuned ecus are just about worthless honestly. They are a bunch of guess work and telling a company what injectors you have and what maf you have, well there is no way to actually make a good tune based off that information.

GSXRJJordan

06-07-2009, 02:50 AM

...Pre tuned ecus are just about worthless honestly. They are a bunch of guess work and telling a company what injectors you have and what maf you have, well there is no way to actually make a good tune based off that information.

QFT - might be better than a stock ECU (especially if you're changing injectors and MAF), but are NOT the same as a tune for your car. For what people are asking for ROM tunes now-days, Nistune and a $200 session at your local dyno tuner is a MUCH better buy.

Once my RB is in and someone gives me a twin-scroll/single gate manifold, I'll be looking into the Z32 ECU/Nistune as a more cost effective option to the ever-popular PowerFC or AEM.

CAPoweredS14

06-07-2009, 03:53 AM

landins13

06-07-2009, 10:32 AM

how would i go about ordering nisutne, as how can i tell if my consult is wired in my car properly, i remember in a previous post you said that it would be 510 with you doing the install of the daughterboard,and everything else i needed including the consult port.

i was just wondering because i was looking around on your site and you dont have the consult port listed in there to be purchased.

let me know because im probly going to order it tomorrow.

SidewayZ-s14

06-07-2009, 12:18 PM

I'm a bit confused on the whole consult port part...
Do i need to purchase one and have it installed or does my car already have one?
95 240sx w/ s14 SR OBD1.

If i have to purchase the consult port, how will i know where to install it?
Sorry for such n00b questions I'm just confused.

4x4le

06-07-2009, 02:00 PM

I have a S2 RB25 and down in Houston a shop newly became tuners in Nistune. I would like to switch to the Z32 ECU but S2 have the ignitor on the ECU unlike the S1 ECUs.. They said they can do it with the stock ECU but after reading the info above it doesn't seem like there is a solution yet for us RB guys..
Im still not up on all the rb stuff. What car did the s2 come from? If its the r34 rb25 you can get the type 4 board for it.

how would i go about ordering nisutne, as how can i tell if my consult is wired in my car properly, i remember in a previous post you said that it would be 510 with you doing the install of the daughterboard,and everything else i needed including the consult port.

i was just wondering because i was looking around on your site and you dont have the consult port listed in there to be purchased.

let me know because im probly going to order it tomorrow.

Just let us know if you need a cousult port and if we have any we will throw one in the order. Im not sure if he will charge extra for one or not. We need to put it on the site for order really.
As for wiring in the port look below for the info on that.

Also about the prices, I no longer like to talk about prices on the boards for a few reasons. Im using the forms to help people out with their nistune setups, not be a spammer and sale the stuff. The other reason is because the prices we have to pay to import the stuff over here is changing every day so we are having to change our prices on occasion. Some people will want stuff for the same price I said in a post that is a year old and we just cant do that sometimes.

I'm a bit confused on the whole consult port part...
Do i need to purchase one and have it installed or does my car already have one?
95 240sx w/ s14 SR OBD1.

If i have to purchase the consult port, how will i know where to install it?
Sorry for such n00b questions I'm just confused.

91-98 s chassis cars have consult ports in the fuse box. On s13s you need to reach up and find it in there if it has never been found before. They tuck it up in there. On s14s it is actually hooked onto the fuse box. You can easially steal them out of b13 sentras all day long from the junk yard too.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/4x4le/ecu%20pinouts/consult_pinout.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/4x4le/ecu%20pinouts/sr20det.jpg
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/4x4le/ecu%20pinouts/Ecu_95_240sx.jpg

SidewayZ-s14

06-07-2009, 03:00 PM

Sweet!
So no need for me to buy one since my car already has it!

Silverbullet

06-07-2009, 03:05 PM

I have a question about NIStune Trial Version.

How crackable is the trial version with a typical debugger such as Ollydbg?

Tensor187x

06-07-2009, 10:29 PM

I've got a question.

So if I'm understanding correctly, i'll get the ecu back just like it was only difference being it'll have the daughter board soldered in it correct? All the maps will be the exact same as when i first sent it in?

4x4le

06-07-2009, 10:30 PM

I have a question about NIStune Trial Version.

How crackable is the trial version with a typical debugger such as Ollydbg?

Are you fucking kidding me?

I have heard of no one having success but I encourage you to waste your time since you just wasted mine.

4x4le

06-07-2009, 10:32 PM

Tensor187x

06-07-2009, 10:34 PM

That's awesome!
I'm gonna purchase this with my check next Monday! :]

Silverbullet

06-07-2009, 10:37 PM

Are you fucking kidding me?

I have heard of no one having success but I encourage you to waste your time since you just wasted mine.

lol

i was kidding.

Tensor187x

06-07-2009, 10:47 PM

One last question i promise....

About how long is the turn around time from when you guys receive my ECU?

Thanks.

4x4le

06-07-2009, 11:24 PM

lol

i was kidding.

Oh ok. I was hoping you were. That instantly rubbed me the wrong way. Funny now though.

One last question i promise....

About how long is the turn around time from when you guys receive my ECU?

Thanks.

We do the install the day we get it, ship it out that day if we can or the next day if we couldnt get it out same day. Shipping time is nothing we can control though. Your best bet is always to ship it out early on a monday if possible. That gives you the best chances of not having it held up over the weekend although sometimes they end up getting delivered on mondays or tuesdays. The distance playes a large role in that though.

landins13

06-08-2009, 12:00 AM

Oh ok. I was hoping you were. That instantly rubbed me the wrong way. Funny now though.

We do the install the day we get it, ship it out that day if we can or the next day if we couldnt get it out same day. Shipping time is nothing we can control though. Your best bet is always to ship it out early on a monday if possible. That gives you the best chances of not having it held up over the weekend although sometimes they end up getting delivered on mondays or tuesdays. The distance playes a large role in that though.

where are you located? because i plan on ordering my nistune today, and depending on how far you are, i want to pay a little more to get faster shipping. also how do i go about ordering? should i just go through your website? also ill need the address to which im shipping obviously, i have no problem spening a little more to get the ecu back sooner. i have an event this coming sunday that id like to be in

4x4le

06-08-2009, 12:16 AM

pm'd

Please lets keep this thread for technical questions.

DALAZ_68

06-08-2009, 02:50 PM

4x4le

06-08-2009, 07:45 PM

hey buddy i havent talke dto you in a while...i tried going on my ish earlier in the week and it said something about being expired i dont remember the wording it used...

BTW gents...i got my ECU NIStune'd by this guy, great costumer care and response...

First of all thanks for the support and the kind words. This nistune stuff has really paid off for me meeting such nice people, getting to know their rides and some people have helped me in ways I cannot help myself cheaply. I have had parts given to me for helping them, custom stuff made in people machine shops and other things. Yall truely are who is great!!!!

Anyways your now ready for the new version of nistune. The newest one isnt as proven as the one right before it. Im useing the 2nd to last release of it currently. HERE0.9.6.1b (http://www.nistune.com/secret_squirrel/NIStune_0.9.6.1b_setup.exe) is the link to download it and HERE_ROM_Pack_2.1 (http://www.nistune.com/secret_squirrel/NIStune_ROM_Pack_2.1.exe) is the link to download the rom pack.

Make sure you install these exactly as follows.
Uninstall the current 2.0 rom pack
Install the 2.1 rompack
Install the new version of nistune.

If you do it like that there should be no problems. There are some changes goign on with it so make sure you check out nistune.com and click on the documentation link at the top and download and read all of the updated manuals.

Thanks

g2ic02

06-09-2009, 10:25 PM

so how exactly do you link aem uego to nistune, for data logging? Or does the and what kind of warranty is there on the install of the daughter boards and ecu failure due to the install.

g2ic02

06-09-2009, 10:35 PM

also what types of maf sensors can be used. does it allow you to switch to a cobra maf?

SilviaSR20DET

06-10-2009, 12:30 AM

DALAZ_68

06-10-2009, 08:48 AM

the probelm with AEM Uego and linking to Nistune is with Vista PC's, they got rid of the hyperterminal, which i actually got my Uego to work at one point with Vista on nistune...i forgot how i pulle dit out of my ass though...i tried linking it this past weekend and no go...back to the ddrawing board i go

xs240

06-10-2009, 09:46 AM

i wonder how it is with windows 7

I use windows xp on my computer laptop

landins13

06-10-2009, 12:31 PM

[/quote]
Any ways here is the link to download the free trial program.
Free NIStune trial (http://www.nistune.com/secret_squirrel/NIStune_0.9.3.5_setup.exe)
Download that first and install it and then download the rom pack. (http://www.nistune.com/secret_squirrel/NIStune_ROM_Pack_2.0.exe)
The rom pack will ask to install in the same folder as nistune and select yes.
The regestration for the trial of NIStune is as follows.
name:trial
email:trial

I hope I can be of help to you guys![/quote]

just wanted to let you know , when i try to download the trial software in says that the installation period has expired and i need to download from registered users

4x4le

06-10-2009, 05:50 PM

here is the rom pack download http://www.nistune.com/secret_squirrel/NIStune_ROM_Pack_2.1.exe

and here is the nistune one
http://www.nistune.com/secret_squirrel/NIStune_0.9.6.1b_setup.exe
Download and install them in that order.
They took the old ones off the shelf.

follow the same instructions as quoted above

landins13

06-11-2009, 09:36 PM

Propaganda

06-11-2009, 11:59 PM

I have a question on my consult port. Instead of the B/W wire, I have a G/L wire and to the left of it I have a G/R wire. The Rx, Tx, Clk, and GND are all the same.

What does this mean and what should I do?

4x4le

06-14-2009, 12:41 AM

when i try to load the bin file for a red top sr20det with the new softeware it says nistune mfc has stopped working then the program closes

its doing this with all of the s13 sr20det bin files . am i loading it wrong or what ?

Replied to pm.

I have a question on my consult port. Instead of the B/W wire, I have a G/L wire and to the left of it I have a G/R wire. The Rx, Tx, Clk, and GND are all the same.

What does this mean and what should I do?

Just use the wires that are in the pins you need on the port. The consult cable only reads off of those anyways.

The consult port pinout I posted was for a s13 I believe so the wire coloring will be specific to that, but they are called the same thing (rx,tx,clk) no matter the color.

Spent

06-26-2009, 02:07 PM

Can you please send me an address file for an s13 with sr20det, type 3 board. My laptop crashed and I lost it. I have the latest version of nistune software. My e-mail is [email protected] That would help me tremendously.

4x4le

06-26-2009, 10:44 PM

Your best bet is to download the new rom pack.

http://nistune.com/secret_squirrel/NIStune_ROM_Pack_2.1.exe

onehundredoctane

06-26-2009, 11:36 PM

I've been e-mailing Pete Liebig from PLMS, great guy! I've already discussed with him what engine mods I have, etc, and when I purchase my daughter board he is going to go ahead and throw a tune on the chip that comes with it so I can at least crank my car up and get it driving! I can't wait!

4x4le

06-26-2009, 11:40 PM

Its easy enough (like 2 minutes worth of work) to set up a basemap with nistune. If your from the states why not buy from the states?

Spent

06-27-2009, 07:30 AM

Your best bet is to download the new rom pack.

http://nistune.com/secret_squirrel/NIStune_ROM_Pack_2.1.exe

That's the thing, the rom packs no longer come with address files.

Blackzenki82

06-27-2009, 05:22 PM

In order to get the aem uego to log into nistune you must:
1)set the wideband to the correct look up table in this case "DLPADConverter"
2)under wideband type select aem uego gauge
3)select what com port it is reading from by going through control panel and then system device manager to find out where your usb/adapter is currently connected to.
4)Then you have to install tera term pro (can be dled for free and i believe if you serach under the nistune forums he provided a dl for it) and setup your com port so taht nistune can recognize the AEM.

i also have the AEM UEGO, and i'm running a Type 3 nistune board and i'm having a hellova time trying to figure out how to make it work... it's like calling the phone company, and having to go through all that telephony to get to a human being... with no human being at the end....

can i get a full comrehensive How To, with any available downloads, and hardware locations to make this work?

i have one USB port on my laptop, which, will make it hard to data log with the Nistune USB in it... i was trying to find a way to hardwire the AEM direcetly into the ECU/Nistune board, if possible....

4x4le

06-28-2009, 03:05 PM

That's the thing, the rom packs no longer come with address files.

Sure it does. You say you have the latest version of nistune and that takes the latest rom pack and that rom pack has the address files in it. Nistune opens them differently than before. Did you make sure and follow the instructions when downloading them and installing them? I have had some people with similar problems when they switched to the new version and I was staying on the old version since I knew I didnt have any problems, but i decided to try out the new version to see what problems they were running into. I followed the instructions exactly like listed on the site and instructions and it worked perfectly first time.

i also have the AEM UEGO, and i'm running a Type 3 nistune board and i'm having a hellova time trying to figure out how to make it work... it's like calling the phone company, and having to go through all that telephony to get to a human being... with no human being at the end....

can i get a full comrehensive How To, with any available downloads, and hardware locations to make this work?

i have one USB port on my laptop, which, will make it hard to data log with the Nistune USB in it... i was trying to find a way to hardwire the AEM direcetly into the ECU/Nistune board, if possible....

there is no way to run it right into the ecu/board

GSXRJJordan

06-28-2009, 03:33 PM

For anyone else running an RB25 that wants to use Nistune, there's a whole discussion from last year on Nico about using other ECUs:

rb25 with z32 ecu: RB20 / RB25 / RB26 Forum: Nissan Forums / Infiniti Forums - NICOclub (http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=359056)

And another link for the more "code happy" tinkerers:
Nissan ECU Tuning :: View topic - R33 rb25det ecu emulation (http://ecu2.forumwise.com/ecu2-thread1825.html)

I went looking for early Z32 (turbo up to 94, N/a up to 93 for the 8-bit ezmode Nistune option) ECUs and wasn't finding anything for cheap... plus, when using a Z32 ECU there's repinning and splicing in resistors/splicing o2 sensor leads together/etc to get it to run right - which isn't a big deal to me at all, but why pay a premium to do more work?

VE30DE ECUs from 1992-1994 Maximas are the answer. Single o2 sensor, no fuel temp sensor to bypass, and they take the same Nistune type-2 board. Here's a list of part numbers to check, I found a few for $50 shipped on fleabay :)
Manufacturer P/N - Year- Description - Turbo - Trans - Model-Engine - Niss. Part #

A18-B82 ED8 92 Maxima No A J30-VE30DE 23710-7E115
A18-B80 ED6 92 Maxima No A J30-VE30DE 23710-7E215
A18-A45 E97 92 Maxima No A J30-VE30DE 23710-97E10
A18-A47 E99 92 Maxima No A J30-VE30DE 23710-97E15
A18-B81 ED7 92 Maxima No M J30-VE30DE 23710-7E110
A18-B79 ED5 92 Maxima No M J30-VE30DE 23710-7E210
A18-A44 E96 92 Maxima No M J30-VE30DE 23710-97E00
A18-A46 E98 92 Maxima No M J30-VE30DE 23710-97E05

A18-B82 ED8 93 Maxima No A J30-VE30DE 23710-7E115
A18-B80 ED6 93 Maxima No A J30-VE30DE 23710-7E215
A18-B81 ED7 93 Maxima No M J30-VE30DE 23710-7E110
A18-B79 ED5 93 Maxima No M J30-VE30DE 23710-7E210

A18-B52 ED0 94 Maxima No A J30-VE30DE 23710-7E405
A18-B50 EC8 94 Maxima No A J30-VE30DE 23710-7E505
A18-B51 EC9 94 Maxima No M J30-VE30DE 23710-7E400
A18-B49 EC7 94 Maxima No M J30-VE30DE 23710-7E500

So it looks like once funds permit, I'll be going Nistune as well.

4x4le

06-28-2009, 11:16 PM

I stand corrected lol..........

Blackzenki82

06-29-2009, 08:47 AM

no answer to the AEM UEGO question....

DALAZ_68

06-29-2009, 08:52 AM

no answer to the AEM UEGO question....
no hard wire..........

GSXRJJordan

06-29-2009, 01:57 PM

yea but those maximas dont have the vtc control and that is why its best to use a z32 ecu.

The real only reason to use a different ecu other than the stock rb ecu is if NIStune is not available for your rb ecu. Many rb's are NIStunable now.

The VE30DE most certainly did have VTC, hence it's the best drop-in solution for RB25's - it's the VG30E and VE30E (single cams) that did not. RB20 ECU would be the next-easiest, but it requires a couple of pins to be swapped and does not have VTC (and are more expensive, because people actually use RB20's).

4x4le

06-29-2009, 02:35 PM

no answer to the AEM UEGO question....

Im sorry but I cannot support every brand of wideband on the market. All I can tell you about the Aem wideband is that like I have said before that I dont like them for several reasons. They are junk and over priced along with most everythign else they make that I have seen. The widebands burn out sensors too fast and just do not come with the features of other widebands that are cheaper than theirs. Many people have trouble getting these to work with NIStune. If you want any wideband to work with nistune what your going to HAVE to do is be able to hook the wideband up to a laptop the way that the maker of the wideband says you have to. If they dont provide cables, software with drivers and instructions then I would not recommend you use their wideband for nistune purpouses. The wideband I suggest for nistune users is the Innovate lc1 or lm1 or lm2 because of their price, accuracy, they come with the cables needed and software needed and drivers and nistune has a special translator for innovate mts when you install the NIStune software. It is all plug and play.
This info that was posted is the best help that can be provided to help you without you contacting aem.
Originally Posted by SilviaSR20DET http://zilvia.net/f/images/zilvia/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/236091-nistune-questions-get-them-answered-here-3.html#post2852214)
In order to get the aem uego to log into nistune you must:
1)set the wideband to the correct look up table in this case "DLPADConverter"
2)under wideband type select aem uego gauge
3)select what com port it is reading from by going through control panel and then system device manager to find out where your usb/adapter is currently connected to.
4)Then you have to install tera term pro (can be dled for free and i believe if you serach under the nistune forums he provided a dl for it) and setup your com port so taht nistune can recognize the AEM.

The VE30DE most certainly did have VTC, hence it's the best drop-in solution for RB25's - it's the VG30E and VE30E (single cams) that did not. RB20 ECU would be the next-easiest, but it requires a couple of pins to be swapped and does not have VTC (and are more expensive, because people actually use RB20's).

I stand corrected and I edited my post. I did not know this.

Which rb25 did you have again? We do have customers order type 4 boards for their r43 rb25 neo's and they work great.

GSXRJJordan

06-29-2009, 03:12 PM

I stand corrected and I edited my post. I did not know this.

Which rb25 did you have again? We do have customers order type 4 boards for their r43 rb25 neo's and they work great.

Oooooh, I didn't know the Type-4 boards worked with S2 motors, that means they'll probably work on my R33 S1 motor too. Nice. It's all academic at this point since I'm beyond broke - once I get turbo/manifold/injectors together I'll have to have a serious chat about which ECU to use :)

fromxtor

07-01-2009, 04:36 PM

Bottom line for me right now, I need a tuning solution for my Blacktop SR. I'm not looking to change my setup anytime soon, besides a boost increase. I also need to be able to get my stuff tuned w/o having to pay $400 for the software license.

Spent

07-01-2009, 04:47 PM

Well, I got my address file. Matt from nistune said the address files are now included with the rom packs but only on the beta version so he sent me the address file I needed and suggested I try the beta version as it hasn't been giving any trouble and the address files are selectable from a drop down box.

lewisfk

07-30-2009, 11:00 AM

4x4le

07-30-2009, 08:37 PM

first off i have a imac will the program work with my computer? Second i'm wrapping up my rebuild of my engine and i'm still runing the stock turbo etc! I do have aftermarket parts like a greeddy ls intercooler,BC cam kit, walbro 255 fuel pump and thats it. How would u map it for my needs. Can i run the program with a palm handheld pc.

sorry, no mac. I have heard of people running windows on a partition on their mac computers and I have heard of windows simulators that allow for windows programs to work in them, but you as a mac user would know more about that than me. Macs are nice, but compatibility issues is what keeps me away from them.

Hand held pc's would probably be so much of a hassle unless you had a way to have a larger monitor and keyboard. Feel free to download the free trial on it and see how the program looks in it.

As far as mapping your ecu for your needs.... I always recommend dyno tuning your car. The most important part of dyno tuning is being able to read the data that is collected by the dyno and knowing how to adjust the fuel and timing to suit the engines needs.
Yours sounds pretty easy, but I dont care how mild the build is, if you dont know how to tune and you are tuning, you will most likely blow the motor.

Blackzenki82

07-30-2009, 10:13 PM

GSXRJJordan

07-30-2009, 10:44 PM

All I've heard is how shitty the UEGO is, and how it's not compatible with Nistune without a computer in the middle.

Research FTW. That's why I bought a Innovate LC-1.

4x4le

07-30-2009, 10:48 PM

edit:^^^^ haha, beat me to it. I was browsing aems site to see if I could find anything.

Im sorry bro. Aem makes sorry products and I discourage everyone from buying their widebands especially. It honestly is going to be junk even if you get it to read in nistune.

If you can get your wideband to work with your laptop (no matter the brand) with the drivers the maker of the wideband provide, as well as the cables the maker of the wideband provide, you can have your wideband in nistune. Aem claims that they have logging capability's with a laptop and there are people with them working in nistune. Have you checked the nistune forum? Made a thread on the nistune forum? There will be more people that know what exactly is going on there.

The reason your having so much trouble finding someone else thats using one is because most people know better than to buy an aem wideband due to their quality and for the same price you can get a innovate lc1 which is super accurate and super easy to get working with nearly any tuning equipment.

I know that didnt help you any either because whats done is done and you have an aem wideband now, but Im not the one that told you to get it and you can probably ask around, I have told many people to stay far away from them.

I googled aem and the first link was to their site.
Here is their contact info:
Advanced Engine Management, Inc.
2205 126th Street, Unit A
Hawthorne Ca. 90250
Phone: (310) 484-2322
Fax: (310) 484-0152

aempower.com

Give aem a call tomorrow. You dont even have to mention anything about nistune. Just tell them you want software and cables or whatever you dont have so you can log your wideband on your laptop like they advertise.

I would also like to mention that I RARELY EVER actually connect my wideband into my laptop. I just monitor the gauge while setting my air fuel ratios up with a very conservative timing map for safety reasons.
The fuel map is really too easy to pinpoint I dont see the point in logging afrs for it.

steve shadows

07-31-2009, 07:26 PM

I would buy the LM1 honestly.
very flexible for inputs and outputs and configuring. You can also just data log direct to teh LM and the pull up the logs in the LM1 software as well

It's the way to go.

I have use a lot of different sensors but it's the most straight forward.

PLX devices has a good one too.

Make sure you guys get your car DYNO TUNED, do not listen to any crap about using knock sensors to tune your motor unless you want to blow your shit up. Be really careful listening to anyone who tells you to do stupid ass shit like this.

You have to use a knock box, or knock system in conjunction with a dyno to watch the torque plot up or down according to timing map inputs to know an see pre-knock for the safest and most powerful tune.

Blackzenki82

07-31-2009, 07:57 PM

just ordered a LC-1 with amber stand alone gauge... let's hope this works out!!

GSXRJJordan

07-31-2009, 09:14 PM

onepuff

07-31-2009, 10:34 PM

For an in-car install, LC1 + DX16 gauge is much better looking than the LM1 lol. Data logging requires a cable and a laptop, sure, but I'm not "man enough" to have an LM1 stuck to my dash. *nudge nudge* Steve lol.

What knock box do you use at CRM Steve, the PLX one?

Just do this. It's not like it's hard to do or anything.
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t23/bahtenduh/LM-1/LM-1DashInstallMod_03.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t23/bahtenduh/LM-1/LM-1DashInstallMod_06.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t23/bahtenduh/LM-1/LM-1DashInstallMod_22.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t23/bahtenduh/LM-1/LM-1DashInstallMod_24.jpg

steve shadows

07-31-2009, 10:38 PM

For an in-car install, LC1 + DX16 gauge is much better looking than the LM1 lol. Data logging requires a cable and a laptop, sure, but I'm not "man enough" to have an LM1 stuck to my dash. *nudge nudge* Steve lol.

What knock box do you use at CRM Steve, the PLX one?

I agree...

It's just called Knock Box, that is the brand. Its a pretty awesome little sensor.

I run the headphones in the car and I can hear each individual cylinder during a pull as the load builds up. You can hear the tiniest of tiny knocks, pings etc, it's especially fun to cross check the aduio pick up against data logs of Intake Temp and Ambient Temp, Coolant temp, AFR and ext temp as well...

OH MY!

4x4le

07-31-2009, 11:19 PM

Just do this. It's not like it's hard to do or anything.
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t23/bahtenduh/LM-1/LM-1DashInstallMod_03.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t23/bahtenduh/LM-1/LM-1DashInstallMod_06.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t23/bahtenduh/LM-1/LM-1DashInstallMod_22.jpg
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t23/bahtenduh/LM-1/LM-1DashInstallMod_24.jpg

very clean, but I still prefer a lc1 for perm installs and lm1 for customers. That looks factory, and if that is what you were going for props! I think you would have to divert your focus from the road too much if you were wanting to watch your afrs. I prefer a big ugly bright lcd gauge in my face on the dash.

You can run a gauge with the lm1 too. The only real other issues with a perm install lm1 is the battery and switch issues. If you leave it on the on position and you run a battery in it, the battery will drain. If you switch it off each time and you forget to switch it on and run your car without the sensor being heated you can damage your sensor.

Like I said though, That does look clean.

Firestorm

08-01-2009, 05:59 AM

hey, so i installed my nistune into my ECU a while ago. i was told it has a basemap on it so i plugged the ECU into the car but when i started it, it only ran on 3 cylinders.

i checked the soldering on the plug where the nistune plugs in to, there were no shorts, so im kinda puzzled as to why it won't run properly.

i was told that maybe the address file is wrong, but i don't know that much about ECUs, so no idea if that's the problem.

btw engine is an AT SR20 converted to 5speed.

4x4le

08-01-2009, 01:35 PM

onepuff

08-01-2009, 06:53 PM

very clean, but I still prefer a lc1 for perm installs and lm1 for customers. That looks factory, and if that is what you were going for props! I think you would have to divert your focus from the road too much if you were wanting to watch your afrs. I prefer a big ugly bright lcd gauge in my face on the dash.

You can run a gauge with the lm1 too. The only real other issues with a perm install lm1 is the battery and switch issues. If you leave it on the on position and you run a battery in it, the battery will drain. If you switch it off each time and you forget to switch it on and run your car without the sensor being heated you can damage your sensor.

Like I said though, That does look clean.

Thanks. Yea I'll be running it through a relay so when I disarm the alarm it will start heating up the sensor. Sorry for the little threadjack.

DALAZ_68

08-05-2009, 12:59 PM

i still haven't gotten my questions answered on how ti set up the AEM UEGO wideband, i talked to Matt about it, he asked Pete, and all i got a was a dead link to the AEM site...

i bought this wideband FOR NIStune, spend over 2 hundo on it thinking it would work, and well.... NOTHING.... so supprt, no nistune drivers or anything, although they say it supports AEM UEGO.....

HALP!!!! last thing i need for datalogging and getting my final tune dialed in...

to use it thru a PC pre vista, u gotta go thru Hyperterminal to link it...its in the AEM booklet...

my laptop is vista and i was able to use it by DL a software from the converter cable i bought to hook up a terminal for my PC...next thing you know the UEgo worked perfectly readin on NIStune... Mind you though, i do have the board for the CA, so i dont know how it differs from the other board models offered...

All I've heard is how shitty the UEGO is, and how it's not compatible with Nistune without a computer in the middle.

after cryin about it, when i couldnt hook it up, i realized whats the point...the Uego has a digital read out...but i get it though...dataloging...then again i got it for a steal brand new, so im happy with it for now...

handinpants

08-27-2009, 12:41 AM

i'm soo happy with my tune, my clutch isn't though, i might splurge and get a nistune tatoo

steve shadows

08-27-2009, 12:47 AM

what does your dwell settings look like? its possible that you didnt merge files correctly if prompted to and it might have not had info avabiable for coil dwell. That is an easy error to have happen and it pops your ignitor.

is it all maxed out 255 in your dwell?

There should be a limit on dwell in the base software dependng on make so this doesnt happen, something on a Make Specific EMS that should probably be taken into account in some sort of default or setup mode? might be a good idead

Shouldnt the base map have this included already though? ie correct dwelltime

Ignitors frying can get pretty expensive

4x4le

08-27-2009, 03:57 PM

while there is no limit it does highlight it to warn you youre possibly about to do something stupid.

If it set limits people would bitch that with (x) coil not enough dwell is allowed

steve shadows

08-27-2009, 08:30 PM

while there is no limit it does highlight it to warn you youre possibly about to do something stupid.

If it set limits people would bitch that with (x) coil not enough dwell is allowed

Well I mean the base map should have the dwell set to stock at least.

I don't think people would bitch about that...maybe they would bitch if it was limiting and wouldnt let them change it.

I mean you can only be soo tard-proof haha

RastaS13

08-27-2009, 08:34 PM

Im guessing it works along with nissan data scan

4x4le

08-27-2009, 08:42 PM

Well I mean the base map should have the dwell set to stock at least.

I don't think people would bitch about that...maybe they would bitch if it was limiting and wouldnt let them change it.

I mean you can only be soo tard-proof haha

yea, the basemap would have had the correct settings. The only time the dwell could/should get screwed up if if you screw with it or accidenty mess it up not knowing what your doing ect, or if your computer itself allows for the bin file to corrupt while you have it saved and stored on your computer. I had a old bin file I threw on my ecu one time in the past while the engine was running. Either the bin file got corrupted or its one I screwed with and saved or honestly I dont know what happened, but when I loaded it up with the engine running I popped the ignitor.... This was before they had the warning system in place too, but not that it would have mattered, I didnt look over the tune before telling the ecu to run off of it.

Shit happens.

Im guessing it works along with nissan data scan

The nistune software does not need it to operate, there is actually no use for it if you have nistune software because nistune has all of the same capabilities.

However if your question is will nissan datascan work on a nistune equipped ecu, the answer is yes, it works just the same as it would on a stock ecu.

KrazyS13

08-27-2009, 08:56 PM

I'm lovin all these nistune discussions, very good stuff. I'm trying to learn as much as I can about nistune. I'll be going with nistune on my ka-t build, and will be getting it tuned by AVP. You guys at AVP will hear from me soon.....lol

4x4le

08-27-2009, 09:08 PM

cool, if you want to meet sometime hit me up

bardabe

08-27-2009, 09:18 PM

i still need to ship you out the old ECU, and the New ECU with my broken board I hope you can repair it I will like Love You Long Time if you can, I wont the court case by default the owner of the shop that installed ti never showed up. however i'm only getting a refund for the 50$ he charged me to fry my ecu -_-* ill keep in contact with you when im ready to send it out again!!!

4x4le

08-27-2009, 09:34 PM

that depends on the extent of damage done to the board. What I can promise though is in the end you will have a perfectly modified ecu with a working board! We dont guess at how to do installs, We charge $50 with confidence lol.
That situation saddens me though. If you dont have the right equipment and know how dont attempt it, especially when your dealing with someone elses stuff.

SidewayZ-s14

10-08-2009, 07:16 PM

This may be a bit confusing but here it goes....

I've got 2 ECU's. One is a black WC s14 SR ECU and the other is a red WC s14 SR ECU. The red WC ECU is the ECU that came with my front clip. The black one however i puchased off a forum member with Type 3 NIStune daughter board soldered in.

So my question being, Is there any way possible to get an extra 20+20 way header or to even send out the daughter board and my red WC ECU to have a 20+20 way header soldered in and reflashed to the stock s14 SR setup?

I pretty much want to take out my daughter board from the black WC ECU and have it put in my red WC ECU.

Thanks a million!

4x4le

10-09-2009, 06:00 PM

Blackzenki82

10-09-2009, 06:25 PM

my question to you is why? They are the same ecu arnt they?

+1, aren't they kinda the same? like S13 SR ECU's? even if they're auto/manual...

also, if you don't mind me asking sidewayZ, how much did you pay for that ECU?

SidewayZ-s14

10-10-2009, 02:14 AM

Sure, Andy does installs all the time and that would be a simple install fee from us.

I personally dont do the soldering and chipping, just the tuning and tech support on the program, however my question to you is why? They are the same ecu arnt they?

Well i was told they are the same ECU but i know the black WC is a newer model zenki SR whereas the red WC is the later one which came with my SR. I feel more comfortable having the ECU that came with the clip chipped rather than a different one.

If i were to send out the daughter board and the ECU that came with my SR you would be able to solder in the 20+20 way header for me? Also would you be able to flash it to the specs i have no so i can at least drive it around? Or would it be possible to not even have the chip installed in the ECU so it still acts like a stock ECU and when I'm ready to get it tuned just pop that bad boy in?

Sorry if I'm not making sense. Would you be able to PM me with the price! Thanks a million!

+1, aren't they kinda the same? like S13 SR ECU's? even if they're auto/manual...

also, if you don't mind me asking sidewayZ, how much did you pay for that ECU?

Nope, i don't mind at all. I paid $350 for this ECU.

Blackzenki82

10-10-2009, 09:18 AM

Nope, i don't mind at all. I paid $350 for this ECU.

i paid $433 shipped express direct from PLMS... you know that board that you want swapped into your ECU? they're like $150ish from PLMS...

if you paid that much for the ECU you should just use that one...

landins13

10-10-2009, 11:27 AM

i just wanna throw in some positive feedback, i love my nistune, its wonderful. when they say its hondata for nissan they are 100% right except i find it to be a lot easier to work with than any of my friends hondata systems

SidewayZ-s14

10-10-2009, 11:52 AM

i paid $433 shipped express direct from PLMS... you know that board that you want swapped into your ECU? they're like $150ish from PLMS...

if you paid that much for the ECU you should just use that one...

To be honest i want to use the ECU that came with the clip.

4x4le

10-10-2009, 10:15 PM

send it my way

Z U L8R

10-22-2009, 08:01 PM

hey we're a little late on our local forum in hearing about this and

trial
trial

it says is expired, can you provide an updated login so we can check it out for the week

thx

Dave

4bangers

10-23-2009, 11:39 AM

so I'm reading up on this thread as I need a system that I can tune my s14. Basically, I have a s14 SR engine zenki with WC ecu, z32 MAF, and everything else is stock engine.

What do I need to buy for the nistune set up?

If I want to send in my ECU for nistun to mount a new board on the ECU, where do I send it to?

Is there a US headquarter of nistune that I can call and buy stuffs rather than having to contact Australia?

Thanks

4x4le

10-23-2009, 08:41 PM

hey we're a little late on our local forum in hearing about this and

trial
trial

it says is expired, can you provide an updated login so we can check it out for the week

thx

Dave

Have you had it installed before? It only works 1 time meaning once you open and close the program it stops working. It is fully functional within the program being opened under the trial however.

Is there any way you can try it on a different computer? This method of opening the trial version is still the correct one.

so I'm reading up on this thread as I need a system that I can tune my s14. Basically, I have a s14 SR engine zenki with WC ecu, z32 MAF, and everything else is stock engine.

What do I need to buy for the nistune set up?

If I want to send in my ECU for nistun to mount a new board on the ECU, where do I send it to?

Is there a US headquarter of nistune that I can call and buy stuffs rather than having to contact Australia?

Thanks

I dont use this thread for my sales, but since you did ask if there is any shops in the states the answer is yes. I am actually the US distributer for NIStune, we have the best prices in the states and we do our installs in house.....

As far as what board you need can you give me the part number on your ecu? It would be either a type 3 or type 4. I believe the s14 had 2 different types of ecus out if Im not mistaken. I personally dont do the board programming or installs so Im not the best person to ask but Andy (co owner with me) does that stuff. I mostly offer the online and phone support for the software itself and I do the tuning for the cars we have come through.

What you will need is the correct type board for your ecu, the software license, a consult cable, and installation. Check out our site for some details on package deals. AutoVaughnPerformance.com

xX5Tb0nE7Xx

04-16-2010, 06:47 PM

I have recently installed NIStune on my 240 with redtop sr swap but I cannot connect with the consult port. I checked all the connections and they are getting power, Ive tried it on different base images, the drivers are installed correctly I have no idea why it isnt connecting.

Any ideas? Thanx

4x4le

04-17-2010, 08:20 AM

are you able to connect to the ecu but not the board? If so it sounds as if the jumper was not moved. Who did the install?

I really need more info. What cable are you using? Your consult port has to be properly wired in too. You say all of the connections have power, but not ALL of them are supposed to have power.

Please be very specific and I can help.

xX5Tb0nE7Xx

04-17-2010, 11:38 AM

ESone3

04-18-2010, 12:23 AM

Have you had any issues with stalling? Either on idle or coming down off load?

Darksun280

04-18-2010, 05:59 PM

I just got there type 3 board package. Great customer service. Went out of his way to get my board back to me quickly as well. Wish I was close enough to them to get a tune :(

Hashiriya415

04-18-2010, 07:37 PM

I have a enthalpy tuned ECU and consult cable from BLAZT, can I just buy this software and tune my ECU.
And what is this BS about user license and stuff LOL. I can only tune 3 different ECU's
What's the price of the software?

4x4le

04-19-2010, 09:20 AM

I had my friends dad do the board install. Its a type 3 board with PLMS consult cable. I dont think I am connecting to ecu at all.
He tried moving the jumper but it was lost somehow so he soldered in a wire to cj2. could this be the problem?
Also I only get power to all wires when key is on and the consult cable is plugged in.

Thanx for the help

It could be an install problem, or a jumper problem. It could also be a driver problem. Did you make sure to not plug the cable in before installing the driver? That messes things up bad and a piece of paper comes with the cable telling you not to do so and has installation instructions.
Another possibility is you need to tell nistune which com port your using your cable on, or you need to have auto detect selected.

I just got there type 3 board package. Great customer service. Went out of his way to get my board back to me quickly as well. Wish I was close enough to them to get a tune :(
Thanks

I have a enthalpy tuned ECU and consult cable from BLAZT, can I just buy this software and tune my ECU.
And what is this BS about user license and stuff LOL. I can only tune 3 different ECU's
What's the price of the software?

Short answer is no. Your ecu is not real time tunable and would need to have either a NIStune board or calium rt board on it. I dont know what kind of daughter board enthaply uses or if it is encrypted but if its a standard board you could buy emmulators and a chip burner (better off just getting a rt board) and possibly tune that way.

How the license works:
You can tune 5 different ecus and up to 3 different address files. So for instance you could do 2 s13 sr's, 1 ca18det, 1 sohc ka24, and a vq30dett and that would max out your license. Or you could do 5 vq30dett's and that would max out your license. See what I mean? Chances are your not going to go over your usage and if you legitamatly do they will work with you (NIStune) or you are making money off your tunes and you can afford to upgrade to the tuner version which is unlimited.

DALAZ_68

04-19-2010, 11:36 AM

xX5Tb0nE7Xx

04-19-2010, 02:07 PM

Have you had any issues with stalling? Either on idle or coming down off load?

I put a z32 MAF in while getting nistune installed and it doesnt run at all. it tries to but cant keep the revs up and i am throwing a MAF code. i double checked all the wires they seem correct Im thinking of putting my old MAF back in and trying that.

And 4x4le I did the driver installation as the paper said it seems to work i will try selecting auto detect and try it again.

xX5Tb0nE7Xx

04-19-2010, 02:09 PM

Have you had any issues with stalling? Either on idle or coming down off load?

I also do remember before I did all this when the engined warmed up it would stall either with the clutch in or while in neutral once in a while if that helps with anything.

DALAZ_68

04-19-2010, 03:32 PM

I put a z32 MAF in while getting nistune installed and it doesnt run at all. it tries to but cant keep the revs up and i am throwing a MAF code. i double checked all the wires they seem correct Im thinking of putting my old MAF back in and trying that.

And 4x4le I did the driver installation as the paper said it seems to work i will try selecting auto detect and try it again.
have you adjusted for the bigger maf readings?

ESone3

04-19-2010, 08:28 PM

^^ I did, :P

xX5Tb0nE7Xx

04-19-2010, 09:36 PM

I couldnt adjust because I never got nistune to connect with my ecu, but i did throw my old one back on an it got me to work and back that way and ran fine so Ill play with it more tomorrow when theres daylight.

jspeedm

04-19-2010, 11:37 PM

this may be a dumb question, but can Nistune compensate spedometer reading for different gear ratios(5th gear change, j30 rear end)?

Mister.E

04-20-2010, 12:25 AM

with nistune can you get rid of your MAF and convert over to MAP?

4x4le

04-20-2010, 08:42 AM

OP - i havent had a chance to visit Nistune forums in forever... just wondering if theres any updates t othe software i should know...i got my software bout last yr february-ish...

Type 1 board for a CA18det...

Each software expires after 90 days and you have to download a new one then. Usually it is just small bug fixes for newer ecus they made avabiable anyways. I always wait until I am prompted to update.

And 4x4le I did the driver installation as the paper said it seems to work i will try selecting auto detect and try it again.

dont auto detect the usb during the driver installation. Search which com port your plugging the usb in and then tell nistune that is the com port your using.

this may be a dumb question, but can Nistune compensate spedometer reading for different gear ratios(5th gear change, j30 rear end)?

on your laptop yes. On the speedo no.

with nistune can you get rid of your MAF and convert over to MAP?

no

DALAZ_68

04-20-2010, 09:05 AM

Each software expires after 90 days and you have to download a new one then. Usually it is just small bug fixes for newer ecus they made avabiable anyways. I always wait until I am prompted to update.

ohh awesome so next time i try an open it itll ask to update and ill be ready to go...sweet... :boink:

4x4le

04-20-2010, 09:12 AM

and just so you know, its not going to lock you out the first few times. It will remind you, but you can hit ok and still tune away. I think it will let you do that like 5 times or so before not allowing you.

This is mostly for people that illegally download it, and for people that share their registrations with everyone. You will get caught and your software will no longer work. Even the person that paid for it and gave it to everyone and their brother.

DALAZ_68

04-20-2010, 09:20 AM

no worries...i just havent had time ot use it...so technically theres like 3 or so updates ive missed out on, are the updates going ot dowload in one time, or each on its own?

4x4le

04-20-2010, 09:24 AM

you can select any of them that are newer than the one your currently using. I always just grab the newest one.

I havent noticed any bugs in the past year or so. It was different though when this was brand new.

KA-T_240

04-21-2010, 07:53 AM

What are your thoughts on using nistune with a calumsult rt ecu? And I would just have to buy the softwear correct?

4x4le

04-21-2010, 08:38 AM

my thoughts are if you already have that board and wany better software to tune with then that is the way to go. if you are dont have a board yet you would be best off with a nistune one because the software and hardware were made for each other. It was found out after the fact that the software works with calium rt and i have never personally tuned one of those setups. people do have good success with that combo though

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jspeedm

04-21-2010, 01:14 PM

on your laptop yes. On the speedo no.

Is there any reasonably priced way to compensate gear ratios for the speedo? obd1 S14.

xX5Tb0nE7Xx

04-21-2010, 01:25 PM

This is the wire that is soldered in as my jumper for the cj1/cj2 switch on my type 3 board. I couldnt see where any wire or solder is crossing with anything it shouldnt be but do you think this could be my problem with my not being able to connect my laptop to the consult port?

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad166/xX5Tb0nE7Xx/P1000244.jpg

4x4le

04-22-2010, 07:58 AM

Is there any reasonably priced way to compensate gear ratios for the speedo? obd1 S14.

I think I have heard of people playing with resistors, and maybe even people building a setup with a "pot" that allows for corrections. I think there may even be pre built "pots" for this type of application. Then you would need to gps your car to calibrate it.

The only other options I would know about that would be really easy would be an aftermarket speedometer.

This is the wire that is soldered in as my jumper for the cj1/cj2 switch on my type 3 board. I couldnt see where any wire or solder is crossing with anything it shouldnt be but do you think this could be my problem with my not being able to connect my laptop to the consult port?

http://i932.photobucket.com/albums/ad166/xX5Tb0nE7Xx/P1000244.jpg

That does not look especially clean, and if the rest of the solder joints look like that if could be some trouble if the ecu will not run your car either. When we do an install it looks like it came on there from the factory that way. You would never know what all we changed unless you compared it to a stock ecu.

Now, if you cannot connect consult to the ecu at all, the jumper should not be the problem but I guess it still could. I would try to connect to consult with a friends car (95 or older) to see if it is a computer issue or ecu issue. That way you know which one you need to focus on.

xX5Tb0nE7Xx

04-22-2010, 03:03 PM

I can drive my car with this, just cannot connect, if it turns out that it is my ecu how much would it cost if I sent it to you to make it right?

4x4le

04-22-2010, 09:02 PM

Did this today with my sr20det.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/4x4le/Dyno/Mydyno4-22-100001.jpg

9:1 cp pistons
eagle rods
stock head and cams with greddy ras
greddy im
n15 tb
jgy fuel rail
msd 72lb injectors
dual 255lph walbros
nismo fpr at 4bar
gt2871r .86 @24psi
jgy light flywheel
e85 only
and NISTUNE
Tuned by yours truely

I really wanted to spend more time but I drove the car to the dyno and I didnt bring any extra fuel. I know there is allot of room for improvement down low but I just didnt have enough fuel to make it back if I stayed on the dyno any longer.
Im impressed. I havent seen such numbers on a sr with that turbo.

I can drive my car with this, just cannot connect, if it turns out that it is my ecu how much would it cost if I sent it to you to make it right?

Sometimes the consult protocal goes out in ecus. A bad ecu can be many different things ranging from 1 injector not working, sometimes consult dont work and many of those people dont even notice, sometimes the car will not run period.

If you send us the ecu we can diagnosis is as either being an ecu problem or not after we un install the board and re install it and re program it just to make sure all of that is ok. We also will install a proper jumper. The cost will be $50. I really dont like discussing money on this thread though guys. This is just for nistune conversation so if anyone wants to know a price sales(at)autovaughnperformance.com is where you need to ask. My job is tuning and software support. I have nothing to do with shipping or ordering or sales.

revcyanide

04-25-2010, 12:29 PM

hey, i was looking into getting nistune, i am just a little confused as to which board works on, if any the, the sohc KA24e. from what i have been looking at i think its the type one board right? i just cant find a definitive answer anywhere :]

what all would i need to buy also?
thanks a lot

4x4le

04-25-2010, 03:23 PM

you would need a type 1 board, an install and a single license..

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DALAZ_68

04-25-2010, 03:36 PM

which of the downloads do i need if im running a type 1 board...? mines be a bit old

4x4le

04-25-2010, 03:39 PM

Just download the latest version. Thats what im on with no trouble.

DALAZ_68

04-25-2010, 04:00 PM

Just download the latest version. Thats what im on with no trouble.

so the one that says april 4 i guess

4x4le

04-25-2010, 04:23 PM

http://nistune.com/secret_squirrel/NIStune_0.9.14.7_setup.exe

I was posting from my phone so I couldnt post a link as easy.

edit: secret squirrel? LOL

RunninMeBrokeS13

05-04-2010, 02:24 AM

hey hows it going i just bought nistune from you guys and i cannot for the life of me get the consult cable to connect with my computer. its and rb20det in an s13 type 2 board hcr32 ecu 11U00 MT. i wired the consult plug directly to the harness off the ecu everything is in the right spot and the car starts up perfect every time i just cant get the consult cable to connect to my computer am i missing something important here? i had nistune setup on my KA-T in the same chassis and it worked great this one is just being an ass to me. any help would be AWESOME its waiting on a tune.

4x4le

05-04-2010, 05:09 PM

Are you using the same laptop and cable? 99% of the time deleting the driver specified that is being used for the cable on your com port menu in the control panel and doing a fresh install as per the instructions will take care of the issues. You can see if you can connect to a friends consult port in their car too. Other rarer instances is faulty wiring and bad consult proticals in the ecu. If we did the install we tested your consult to be working.

RunninMeBrokeS13

05-05-2010, 02:22 AM

i tried it on 2 different computers both of which have had the drivers reinstalled properly i triple checked my consult wire up today and everything is spot on where it should be. how can i check to see if the cable itself is bad? or if you can tell be what kind of voltage should be seen on RX TX and CLK.

4x4le

05-07-2010, 03:57 PM

I would contact plms and see if there is any kind of stuff to check for. Pete might have a procedure to trouble shoot the cable.

Is this the plms cable and did you get that from us as well?

calisfinest240

05-09-2010, 09:16 PM

Ok so I'm a little confused on how the nistune is going to work on an rb. I have an r34 rb25det neo. It's currently running with a 92 maxima ecu that's been socketed and chipped by e-mance and dude totally bailed and it doesn't run right. So can I send that ecu and get the nistune type 2 board like other people have said. Or what would I have to do to get nistune. I'd rather stay away from the z32 ecu due to repinning and what not. Thanks.

4x4le

05-09-2010, 10:34 PM

mexican s15

05-09-2010, 11:53 PM

Yellow4g63

05-10-2010, 12:31 AM

RunninMeBrokeS13

05-10-2010, 06:38 PM

what is the debugging and where do i find that? i havent heard of that. and yes i got the plms cable from you guys aswell. it was the full board 2 package.

EDIT: just found it under configuration so i check that box and just try to connect? if it connects am i good to go? if not who is Matt and how can i contact him?

Yellow4g63

05-10-2010, 07:23 PM

Nistune Forums • Index page (http://forum.nistune.com/) register for the forum his email is on there.

calisfinest240

05-10-2010, 08:17 PM

I would need to know the ecu part number to be sure of which board you would need. I dont know if there are any limitations with using one with that engine either. I know that the factory r34 neo ecu takes the type 4 board and works well.

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The part number is A18-A47E99. As far as limitations, what kind of limitations could arise with the tuning abilities? Do you mean fuel, timing, or something major?

onepuff

05-11-2010, 12:20 AM

4x4le

05-11-2010, 12:52 AM

I have a 2nd gen Rb25det. Im interested in the nistune setup but been having trouble finding a z32 ecu. My question is i know that some q45s and m30s run the vg30de engine . Would this ecu be an otion for my engine or do i have to get a z32 ecu. What else would i need to have besides this ecu...

I didnt know the q45 ever cam with a vg....
I have further information below the next quote.

The part number is A18-A47E99. As far as limitations, what kind of limitations could arise with the tuning abilities? Do you mean fuel, timing, or something major?
I would consider fuel and timing pretty important.

What I was talking about though is sometimes o2,temp and other sensors are not compatible. Sometimes certain ecus have trouble running tachs/speedos. These things can add up. Since you brought up using the ecu, you may know more about this than I do as your probably a member of a forum more dedicated to your engine possibly. Im more into using the correct ecu for the right motor with the exceptions to the ones I know are tried and true such as the s13 ka ecu on s14's and the z32 ecu on rb25's. We also have the correct firmware we can load on the z32 ecu to make it run just like a stock rb25 would from the factory. The z32 ecu can also be modified by us internally so that there is no need in you having to change the pinout.

I just dont want to lead anyone blindly to go grab any ecu I can put a board in and say it will run with no issues, because that most likely isnt the case. Ebay is full of ecus usually. Just make sure you pay with paypal and make sure they have good feedback in case they send you a smoked ecu.

car-part.com is also great for finding junk yards with ecus willing to ship.

as far as the part number goes, Im sure Andy (my business partner, and who does all of the inital programming and installs) would be able to find out if we have a board for that ecu based off of that number you provided, but I need something more to the effect of 23710-53XX which would be for a s13 ka. If that number is the correct one (which is seems to be more of a binfile type of format) then it is not showing up on my lookup table provided to my by Matt.

calisfinest240

05-11-2010, 02:26 AM

Ok that sounds good since you guys are able to repin a z32 ecu I have one aswell. It's a 1990 automatic n/a ecu part number A18-A25 M62 would I be able to use that with a type two board?

4x4le

05-11-2010, 10:33 PM

Im 99% sure that ecu will be fine. There is no reason that any of the 90 ecus would not be do able and we have had no trouble with any of them.

Im going to have Matt at Nistune update my spread sheet with the A1x-xxx-xxx part numbers as well as Im not seeing that on my list either. All of my part numbers I have to go by is 23710-xxxx, and I know I could use the JWT lookup table but I tend to want to rely on something provided by my supplier instead.

4x4le

05-11-2010, 10:47 PM

Ok, I did a little research and just for future reference the number A18-A25 M62 you gave me is the manufacturer of the ecus part number while the nissan part number is 23710-30p16, which is a type 2 board.

GSXRJJordan

05-11-2010, 10:54 PM

That's some fuckin customer service. Go AVP.

4x4le

05-11-2010, 10:58 PM

Thank you. We try to pride ourselves on customer service and I never feel as if I did a good enough job, or took too long to do it.

BTW, was it you that had mentioned something in the past about maxima ecus and rb25s or am I thinking of someone else?
One of these fellos a few posts up was asking about a maxima ecu and I really dont know if there are any issues with doing such a thing.

4x4le

05-12-2010, 12:11 AM

by the way, did anyone see this at formula d atlanta this weekend? It didnt get to make it past practice because of an exploding tranny.......... but its a pretty stout supercharged ka. I dont know if I can say anything else about it but I will check with the driver/owner to see if I can leak any of that info.
http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/4x4le/Mobile%20Uploads/091f05d8.jpg
It stayed in the pits all weekend after the transmission blew.

yoni_nismo

05-16-2010, 02:15 PM

Im ready to order a type-4 board for the Ka24de but i wanted to know if i could chip a 95 auto ecu and use it for manual trans application... i know that it works for the s13 rom tunned ecus but im not sure if it works with the s14 on nistune

4x4le

05-16-2010, 02:21 PM

gippy87

05-18-2010, 12:21 AM

Purchaed nistune from AVP they were great to do buisness with i wish i lived closer id have them tune it.

ze12o

06-10-2010, 06:46 PM

Is there anyway to change the base image if I'm buying a 2nd hand board?

s14driver

06-11-2010, 08:42 AM

Sorry if this question was asked already but does this also get rid of you MAF and use a MAP sensor?

GSXRJJordan

06-11-2010, 10:28 AM

Yup, a speed density tune (using IAT and MAP) eliminates the need for a MAF.

4x4le

06-13-2010, 06:21 AM

Is there anyway to change the base image if I'm buying a 2nd hand board?

It can be sent to a NIStune Dealer and have the base image changed.

Sorry if this question was asked already but does this also get rid of you MAF and use a MAP sensor?

No, nistune requires a maf because your factory ecu requires a maf.
Nistune does not make the ecu think differently, actually the ecu thinks exactly like it did from the factory, its just the information that controls the engines fuel and timing through the engines various sensors is now user editable in real time.

DRFT180

06-24-2010, 07:06 PM

I was helping a friend tune his S14 using a NIStune board.

Quick question, I'm sure his TPS sensors is on it's way out. We were logging varying voltages during a full throttle run. Also his actual timing is anywhere from 4-8 degrees retarded from what the actual map is set at.

Would the varying TPS signal be the cause of the timing being so far off?

If not, an suggestions

Thanks

4x4le

06-25-2010, 12:08 PM

it can be, but coolant temp is also a major factor as well. Make look and see what its set to pull out when the engine starts warming up.

A good rule of thumb though is not to tune on any faulty sensors. If your pretty sure the tps is on its way out replace it instead of wasting time tuning and diagnosing problems. Nip it in the butt by replacing the tps, and then look around if your still having the issue.

Any sensor that is acting erratically will cause you to have a difficult time tuning because nothing will happen consistently.

DRFT180

06-27-2010, 07:32 PM

He replaced the TPS sensor and now it is hitting the target timing values like it is supposed to. Thanks

another question, is a Type 4 board the one needed to work on a S14 (1998) KADE?

4x4le

06-27-2010, 10:06 PM

There are currently no boards offered for the 98. You have to use either the 91-94 ecus with a type 3 (recommended) or use the 95 s14 ecu with a type 4. People tend to have a tougher time tuning the 95 s14 ecu I might add. I can also vouch for that. I dont know why exactly it is, but I get the results I desire in less time with the s13 ecu.

NIStune is developing obd2 (96-98) s14ka boards, but there is no eta, and no guarantee that they will ever get a working product on the market. The reason they are doing so is so it will retain obdII emissions protocol.

Other than that, just back date to an earlier ecu.

951's 330i

07-11-2010, 12:09 PM

Unless i missed it, does the program still not work with vista?

4x4le

07-12-2010, 12:51 AM

Nothing works with vista.....

Just kidding. I do know we have customers running it on windows 7, And I have ran it on win2000, xp and xp pro, however I cannot confirm there are no issues with vista. Im not much of a computer geek but I do know that vista was very short lived due to its major list of bugs and its overall suckage.

I dont have any vista machines. I will email Andy and I will try to get an answer for you.

GSXRJJordan

07-12-2010, 01:07 AM

Windows 7 Pro and Ultimate have an awesome Windows XP mode that makes everything work! I use it with a lot of my old software.

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/download.aspx

4x4le

07-12-2010, 01:26 AM

I dont believe its needed for 7 though. Still neat that you can do such a thing. Im wanting to say that it works with vista but I just dont want to confirm anything and then be wrong.

DALAZ_68

07-12-2010, 08:37 AM

Nothing works with vista.....

AEM o2 gauge doesnt...not without having to go thru PITA shit...lol

other than that, my POS laptop runs vista... it worked fine...

s14unimog

07-13-2010, 09:12 AM

I dont believe its needed for 7 though. Still neat that you can do such a thing. Im wanting to say that it works with vista but I just dont want to confirm anything and then be wrong.

Brandon, I'm running my Nistune on Vista remember, no problems here!

oh btw, What the fu*k have you been up to...?

UNISA JECS

07-13-2010, 09:46 AM

I've used Nistune on Windows XP, Vista, & 7 with no issues.

s14unimog

07-13-2010, 09:53 AM

^ what's "&"

UNISA JECS

07-13-2010, 09:55 AM

^ what's "&"

7..............

s14unimog

07-13-2010, 09:59 AM

damn shift key gotcha!

951's 330i

07-13-2010, 09:33 PM

Nothing works with vista.....
.

Dont remind lol, but i see other membefrs say it does so i might get this! lol sweet

Chrisq0904

09-16-2010, 03:45 PM

4x4le

09-16-2010, 04:14 PM

Ive tried searching but didnt really find the answer to this question.... It may seem like a stupid question. Is it normal for nistune to reset itself when the battery is disconnected? Long story short my battery ended up being disconnected when i went to start up my car one day and when i reconnected it and turned the car ran/sounded like crap so i connected the laptop to it and realized that i had lost my tune. If this is normal is there a way to prevent this?

Well, your problem should be impossible to have. The memory your tune is saved on when burned to the board is non-volatile meaning it does not require power in order to retain its information.

Furthermore, there is no way it would have gone back to a stock tune. There is only enough room on your board to hold 1 tune, so it wouldnt have had anything for it to revert back to. Your factory tune is still stored permanently on your ecu but there is no way for it to access it without the jumper being de soldered and re soldered in the factory location (which obliviously didnt happen) on its own by sitting there.

The effects of static discharge is the only thing I could see being a possible tune corrupter, which is highly unlikely. You had to have had some tune on there, there is no way for it to sit blank and the car surely would not have started if it did. The best thing you can do is keep your finial tune in a safe place on your laptop, just in case anything happens.

There is just no reasonable thing I can think of that could have possibly caused your problem, nor have I ever had anyone have something like this happen.

Chrisq0904

09-17-2010, 02:14 PM

Well, your problem should be impossible to have. The memory your tune is saved on when burned to the board is non-volatile meaning it does not require power in order to retain its information.

Furthermore, there is no way it would have gone back to a stock tune. There is only enough room on your board to hold 1 tune, so it wouldnt have had anything for it to revert back to. Your factory tune is still stored permanently on your ecu but there is no way for it to access it without the jumper being de soldered and re soldered in the factory location (which obliviously didnt happen) on its own by sitting there.

The effects of static discharge is the only thing I could see being a possible tune corrupter, which is highly unlikely. You had to have had some tune on there, there is no way for it to sit blank and the car surely would not have started if it did. The best thing you can do is keep your finial tune in a safe place on your laptop, just in case anything happens.

There is just no reasonable thing I can think of that could have possibly caused your problem, nor have I ever had anyone have something like this happen.

It never went blank just went back to the stock tune. When i reloaded the tune that i was running everything seemed to work just fine. But if you say that it is impossible maybe i just overlooked something and the problem i had was caused by user error. Either way thanks for the quick response!!!

UNISA JECS

09-17-2010, 02:19 PM

Dont remind lol, but i see other membefrs say it does so i might get this! lol sweet

It works with xp, vista and 7, I know I have used Nistune with all those operating systems.

Ive tried searching but didnt really find the answer to this question.... It may seem like a stupid question. Is it normal for nistune to reset itself when the battery is disconnected? Long story short my battery ended up being disconnected when i went to start up my car one day and when i reconnected it and turned the car ran/sounded like crap so i connected the laptop to it and realized that i had lost my tune. If this is normal is there a way to prevent this?

You probably forgot to actually burn your tune to the EEPROM, gotta make sure you press the burn bottom..

Chrisq0904

09-19-2010, 12:31 PM

You probably forgot to actually burn your tune to the EEPROM, gotta make sure you press the burn bottom..

Im 99% positive that I burned the tune. But then again I just disconnected the battery for a week while doing some work to the car and this time it started right up with no problems and checked to see if the tune was there and it was. So maybe i may have forgotten to burn it. It works perfectly now, and lesson learned...always triple check that you burned the tune to the rom lol.

VATOCLOWN

09-19-2010, 12:57 PM

is there a board for the vvl head on an sr20det block yet...sorry if its been answered but i didnt want to go all 7 pages. im gonna do it soon and was gonna go with an aem standalone but if there is a factory solution that would be better.

Yellow4g63

09-19-2010, 01:16 PM

Im 99% positive that I burned the tune. But then again I just disconnected the battery for a week while doing some work to the car and this time it started right up with no problems and checked to see if the tune was there and it was. So maybe i may have forgotten to burn it. It works perfectly now, and lesson learned...always triple check that you burned the tune to the rom lol.

Did u hit the burn to rom button when u were done?

SickIntentions

10-04-2010, 04:16 PM

Where can i purchase JUST the daughterboard/40pin header?
I just need a Type3 daughterboard and the 40pin header to go along with it. Don't need cable/software license.

Thanks.

4x4le

10-04-2010, 09:17 PM

Where can i purchase JUST the daughterboard/40pin header?
I just need a Type3 daughterboard and the 40pin header to go along with it. Don't need cable/software license.

Thanks.

Any dealer listed on nistune.com including myself should be able to do that for you.

Sent from my rooted Eris using Tapatalk

SickIntentions

10-04-2010, 11:58 PM

Any dealer listed on nistune.com including myself should be able to do that for you.

Sent from my rooted Eris using Tapatalk

OK Great! PM sent.

bikrman2

10-26-2010, 06:18 PM

I just downloaded the latest software version and rom pac as a trial. After about 30seconds it said trial expired and shut the program down

4x4le

10-26-2010, 11:31 PM

They changed the trial feature to keep piracy down.

Sent from my rooted Eris using Tapatalk

badboy6686

10-27-2010, 06:40 AM

4x4le

10-27-2010, 08:06 PM

Any experiences with the vh45de? Any non stock tunes or should I count on a custom tune? (i know a custom tune is always recommended but considering the fact that most people put this engine in with intake and exhaust only it seems like that is practically a standard)

I personally have not done any tuning on a vh45. There are no nistune boards for the vh45.

You can tune with an emmulator and chip burner using either tuner pro or nistune.

Sorry they havent made it easy for the vh45.

And, Im not sure what your asking about stock or custom tunes. If your wanting to run a stock tune then just use the stock ecu with no tune. If your not doing anything major to the engine or using it for racing there isnt a huge need for a custom tune.

4x4le

10-28-2010, 03:58 PM

Today I tuned a ka24de with stock injectors, cp 9:1 pistons and BC 264 cams, an intake, and 3" exhaust with testpipe and header.

He was using 89 pump gas.

The blue line is with stock mapping and the red line is when I was done.

Considering building the engine with cams and pistons (which are lower compression than stock with hopes of turboing some day) and the full exhaust was not cheap the performance gains on the stock tune could not have been much at all.

For around $500~ for the chipping/dyno/tuning it tied everything together.
There is a 30-40 hp gain almost everywhere and around 40 ft/lb of tq everywhere.

The thread is located here.
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/350221-people-ask-if-they-can-benefit-tune.html#post3706120

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn40/4x4le/Dyno/naka.jpg

90white240

10-29-2010, 08:55 AM

Good example^^^^^

badboy6686

11-03-2010, 08:11 AM

I personally have not done any tuning on a vh45. There are no nistune boards for the vh45.

You can tune with an emmulator and chip burner using either tuner pro or nistune.

Sorry they havent made it easy for the vh45.

And, Im not sure what your asking about stock or custom tunes. If your wanting to run a stock tune then just use the stock ecu with no tune. If your not doing anything major to the engine or using it for racing there isnt a huge need for a custom tune.

VH45DE support has been added for the type 2 board without the use of a romulator. It is updated on nistune's website and I received confirmation from them directly. Just letting people know!

4x4le

11-03-2010, 05:10 PM

VH45DE support has been added for the type 2 board without the use of a romulator. It is updated on nistune's website and I received confirmation from them directly. Just letting people know!

That is excellent news. I wish I got a news letter of some sort haha. Its kinda embarrassing that I didnt know this but my excitment will overshadow that for now.

Thanks for the news!

GroundPerformance

05-13-2011, 11:48 AM

Question....

I'm set to run S13 SR ECU and wiring on my Built KA-T to convert to COP and Ford Lightning MAF. I'm considering both Tunercode and Nistune for the software and debating on running between the COILs below. Need to know if what else I need support them if possible and can the dwell time be adjusted enough for it to run optimally. Thanks!

* Isuzu Coils - Easier and straightforward install. Compatible dwell with SR and OK Spark.
* LS2 Coils - Better spark and cheaper to replace. Not sure what else needed to run.
* CBR Coils - Better spark and Clean install. I believe I will need a MSD DIS-4 to drive them.

Just note.. I know I will need to swap the CAS disc from the SR and the offset difference. Stock SR Coils dont fit the KA spark plug hole and S15 are harder and expensive to source out. Beside SR Coils are weak anyways.. THanks again!

Yellow4g63

05-13-2011, 04:38 PM

The tuner code has launch control on it I think and will let you tune and set a rev limiter after 8100. The bad part is they don't have a real time ecu yet. I talked to someone who used the tuner code with a nistune ecu. He said it he could do everything but change his maf in nistune after he used the tuner code bin. I think he disassembled it and took what he thought he needed.

4x4le

05-14-2011, 09:00 PM

you can adjust the dwell within nistune for which coils you decide to go with.

As far as tuner code, its supposedly do able but a custom ent file will need to be made for you by [email protected] and he has been warned not to do so by the writer of tunercode. I seen it on a forum somewhere....

Anyways they seemed interested in working together so it could be offered along with nistune and expand upon it as it is lots of coding that should be able to be easily put to use in this product.

Yellow4g63

05-14-2011, 09:18 PM

Tuner code won't be making it's way to nistune anytime soon. The tuner code guy is working with the maker of nismotronics. Sucks big time I want to set my rev limiter to 8500 :(.

4x4le

05-14-2011, 09:29 PM

It was just something I came up upon a while ago on a forum im not a member of so lots could have happened in the mean time.

I still wish Matt would just get a copy for himself so he could see what address are used and write his own code to make it work with nistune.

Just like the guy that wrote the coding for launch control for nistune. If you want it you have to buy the code from him and matt has to make the ent for you. What the heck, NIStune is Matts property, there is only one way to write the code (most likely) so I wouldnt see anything wrong with him using that code and just including it with the updates (although boards would need reflashed to make it work).

Yellow4g63

05-14-2011, 09:34 PM

One guy had launch control for the RB Ecu's but he wouldn't sell me anything without me sending my ECU to him. Didn't feel like mailing my ECU to someone I didn't know in AUS for it. He didn't trust me and I didn't trust him lol.

4x4le

05-14-2011, 09:36 PM

yea, that was the guy that wrote it.

GroundPerformance

05-14-2011, 11:30 PM

I may have to go to the Tunercode/TunerPro RT route with a standard Moates Nissan daugtherboard. I'm a big fan of Nistune and its real time tuning capabilities. But since my KA-T project that I'm working will be set when done and hardly any changes after. The features that tunercode offers like higher revs, launch control and other trigger output for NOS and others is more the selling point to real time tuning. Besides I already know that it will take time to tune it. Also heard the Tunercode is working on a prototype MAF-MAP conversion which is very interesting. I had to sign up to another forum to subscribe to that discussion since its the only thing I follow there. Thanks again!

Yellow4g63

05-15-2011, 12:15 AM

GroundPerformance

05-15-2011, 12:21 AM

You better get an emulator because it's a major pain in the ass to burn chips after every little change. Doing N/A isn't too bad but turbo I can see it taking some time.

I know a local tuner that will be doing the tuning and has all that gear.

Darth & Vader

05-19-2011, 09:39 PM

Hey Guys, looking to get my engine "Tuned" so i can see some better gas mileage and maybe some performance increases (not with HP but overall). I've heard mixed match things about Series 1 RB25 needs a z32 ecu or something, but it wont have VTC?! I would like to keep that, so what would be the best route to go for my setup? I dont plan on upgrading the engine anymore.

My setup:

Rebuilt series 1 RB25
Stock internals
Stock turbo @ 11psi
Stock Injectors
Stock MAF
HKS Bov (not recirculated)
Greddy Intake Manifold
Walboro 255lph fuel pump
Aeromotive FPR @ 45psi ~ Is this fine for 11psi?
Z32 Fuel filter
FMIC
Stock ECU

4x4le

05-20-2011, 12:41 AM

I think you might have pm'd me recently off of a friends account or something, either way it is a very similar request so if it wasnt you let me know so I can give you my advice as well.

I replied to the pm.

Yellow4g63

05-20-2011, 12:52 AM

My setup:

Rebuilt series 1 RB25
Stock internals
Stock turbo @ 11psi
Stock Injectors
Stock MAF
HKS Bov (not recirculated)
Greddy Intake Manifold
Walboro 255lph fuel pump
Aeromotive FPR @ 45psi ~ Is this fine for 11psi?
Z32 Fuel filter
FMIC
Stock ECU

My buddies car has the same setup, Greddy manifold with a Q45 throttle body and PFC on the base map. He put down 275hp @ 10psi.

Silentoreo34

05-29-2011, 03:17 PM

Would do you go about tuning an rb25 with nistune??

4x4le

05-29-2011, 05:39 PM

I dont understand your question

Yellow4g63

05-29-2011, 05:51 PM

Would do you go about tuning an rb25 with nistune??

I'll translate.

"Good evening fine people of Zilvia. How would one such as myself go about tuning my RB25DET powered car? Can I use Nistune on my RB25DET ecu?"

hope I got that right.

b00stinbmx

05-29-2011, 05:52 PM

z32 ecu with a type 2 board. it retains vtc. all you need to do is swap a few pins on your actual engine harness where it plugs into the ecu. im running it right now and it works pretty well on my rb25 s2 with gt35r and 740cc injectors.

Silentoreo34

05-29-2011, 07:41 PM

I also heard you can run this one type of maximum ecu dohc j30 something?

And sorry but doing research for 8 hours n find the same thing. Z32 ecu with swap pins...what pins? Details!!!

4x4le

05-29-2011, 07:53 PM

Im pretty sure this has all been covered in this thread. I cant remember who it is but someone on here uses a maxima ecu.

I think the pins that need swapped is just a firing order thing. I think you have to change a few of the coil wires and a couple of the injector wires. Nothing major.

If someone has it handy post it up, if not Ill see if andy can post up.

Silentoreo34

05-29-2011, 08:16 PM

+1 to finding that for me ;)

Also this makes me a little sad inside I'm trying to be a baller on a budget...

4x4le

05-29-2011, 11:27 PM

I used to know off the top of my head but since I dont really ever intend to own a rb (im not a fan unless I can ever come across a r32 gtr with the proper paper work for a decentish price) I tend to forget it.

I think you might find something on jim wolfs site about it possible. Or a google search for z32 ecu on a rb

onehundredoctane

05-30-2011, 07:21 AM

Its easy enough (like 2 minutes worth of work) to set up a basemap with nistune. If your from the states why not buy from the states?

Ha! I just saw this reply! Actually Pete owed me a favor and cut me a major deal on my type 3 board.

2.5T_/<ouki

01-07-2013, 11:20 PM

No, Im not sure where the confusion is coming from. Where did you get your prices from too? On our site (which Im not trying to promote but just using it as an example) the total cost would only be $510 and that would be with us doing the install for you. If your car is a 91-98 and the wiring harness was done properly your factory consult port will work correctly. If not its a simple couple of wires and we can throw in a port with your order.

Trust me, if the swap was done properly it is as easy as shipping your ecu off to a nistune dealer and then re installing the ecu back into your car. I cannot be held acountable for people that dont do the wiring correctly and even then all you have to do is hook up a few wires. We send the instructions along with a consult port by request if needed.

I may be pretty retarded but I'm still confused. I've got a 1995 OBD1 so I know the factory port is there but I'm not sure it's properly wired? You said if the wiring was done properly my stock consult should work. My wiring was done well but I'm still not convinced my factory consult will work.

I plan on sending my board to you guys to have the daughter board soldered in. Could you guys also toss me a consult port just in case I need to wire mine up?

Thanks

4x4le

01-09-2013, 08:32 AM

2.5T_/<ouki

01-09-2013, 09:00 AM

When you order youll just need to communicate that you need one at that time. I dont know if they will be available at that time or what the cost would be. Your car will have the port in the fuse panel and it can be removed and wired directly to the ecu if needed so you really shouldnt need one from us. We try to grab as many as we can when possible from the junk yard or whatever but we have run out of them before and your car will have one.

Awesome, just the information I needed. Last question, I am going to be purchasing the Install service from you guys and ordering online, however it asks me for shipping method. Is this a return shipping method I am paying for?

Thanks.

4x4le

01-09-2013, 09:46 AM

Man, I dont advertise on here so I have to tread very lightly about sales related things. Luckily for me I can answer your question honestly, I have no idea! lol
Your best best bet with the sales side of things would be to just send an email or leave it blank (which if thats wrong Andy will contact you) or leave a comment or something. I have obviously never had the need to order from the site, and I personally have nothing to do with sales, pricing, ordering, shipping ect. Im completely disconnected in that respect.
All I do really is the tuning locally for the guys close enough to make the drive. If people have questions about the software or need some suggestions the call or email goes to me, and I answer questions about the capability and functionality on forums.
Thats as far as I go personally. I personally have no monetary gain from sales and really dont whats involved and I apologize for not being able to give strait answers on that.
Once you do get nistune setup and going, This thread is a good place to reach me and others if you come across any questions.

Yellow4g63

01-09-2013, 09:48 AM

2.5 Download the pdf on the install instructions and head over to a TV repair shop. I had a guy do mine localy for $25.

4x4le

01-09-2013, 09:57 AM

2.5 Download the pdf on the install instructions and head over to a TV repair shop. I had a guy do mine localy for $25.

This is something that is an option. Many people do take care of having it installed locally. What is needed in this case is the part# of your ecu so the correct firmware can be flashed on the board before being shipped.

My best suggestion though is to make sure they read it properly and understand it. Yes, they do things more tricky than this daily but for some reason we do still get ecus that dont have the jumpers moved, or moved to the wrong spot and or burnt traces. There is no excuse for this but it does happen.