Subframe bushing problem

[silversr]

I sent my subframe to a shop to get the bushings taken out but in the process they removed a metal ring that was suppose to hold the new energy suspension subframe bushing in place. Any suggestions to what I should do now? I heard that the nismo ones come as a complete unit I just have to have it pressed in? but I just got these energy suspension subframe bushings:hide:

[Hawaiian240]

Aren't ES subframe bushings INSERTS and not replacements?

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm29/Hawaiian240/ESsubframebushings.jpg

You don't have to remove the OEM bushings. The ES bushings are put in there to supplement the OEM ones.

[silversr]

I got the pineapple ones...
Energy Suspension Subframe Pineapple Bushing : S13/14 89-98 240SX (http://www.phase2motortrend.com/ensusupibus1.html)

[Hawaiian240]

Are you talking about rings the bolts go through before the bushings? I would go to a wrecking yard or Nissan dealer. Some guys here may have them, especially if they are fully parting out a car. Check with them.

[silversr]

Nah man, I'm talking about the ring that was suppose to hold the bushing in place. Something like this picture

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n290/blu24d/IM001037.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n290/blu24d/IM001044.jpg





Its like the bushing is to small for the subframe.... I thought it was suppose to have a tight feel to it. Now here is mine when I got it back. i can install the bushings by hand and spin them.

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n290/blu24d/DSC02047.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n290/blu24d/DSC02046.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n290/blu24d/DSC02044.jpg

http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n290/blu24d/DSC02043.jpg

[projectRDM]

The ES kit uses the OE steel sleeve. There's no way to get them without buying new bushings, which I don't believe are available through the dealer. Check on it but you may have to find another subframe.

[shinhed]

Sell your ES bushings (to me) and buy some new sh*t. Take paypal?

[silversr]

Damn that would really suck if I had to get another subframe:eek2: I just got done painting this one. So would the nismo bushings use the OE steel sleeve ?

[Hawaiian240]

Damn, yeah I think you need another subframe.........unless the shop has the sleeves still?

[DALAZ_68]

quick question...does the energy suspension master bushings kit does not come wiht sub frame bushings does it?

[ae13bravo]

Damn that would really suck if I had to get another subframe:eek2: I just got done painting this one. So would the nismo bushings use the OE steel sleeve ?

The OEM and Nismo Bushings come assembled with the metal sleeve in them. So you would need to press out your old bushings including the metal sleeve out of your subframe (the current state your subframe is in) to press these in. Now if you wanted to use the bushings you bought all you had to do was burn the old bushing out with a torch, keeping the metal sleeve in place and then would have been able to install your new inserts. No need to have taken it to a shop. But if you still want to use the ones you bought you are going to have to press in some oem or nismo bushings and then burn them out. Waste of money if you ask me. Just go with the Nismo set, Solid alum. Subframe bushings, or buy a different subframe and sell the ones you have.

[shinhed]

quick question...does the energy suspension master bushings kit does not come wiht sub frame bushings does it?

No, just inserts.

[ae13bravo]

quick question...does the energy suspension master bushings kit does not come wiht sub frame bushings does it?

Not that I remember.

[silversr]

The OEM and Nismo Bushings come assembled with the metal sleeve in them. So you would need to press out your old bushings including the metal sleeve out of your subframe (the current state your subframe is in) to press these in. Now if you wanted to use the ones you bought all you had to do was burn the old bushing out with a torch. No need to have taken it to a shop. But if you still want to use the ones you bought you are going to have to press in some oem or nismo bushings and then burn them out, or you can just go with Solid alum. Subframe bushings.

Thanks, I was hoping I can just buy some new bushings instead.

[projectRDM]

quick question...does the energy suspension master bushings kit does not come wiht sub frame bushings does it?

The ES master kit is a joke. No subframe, diff, steering rack, or rear upright bushings. Hardly a 'master' kit.

[DALAZ_68]

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/855/s13energysuspensiones0.th.jpg (http://img370.imageshack.us/my.php?image=s13energysuspensiones0.jpg)
thats what i picked up...better than nothing

[JRas]

you could always go with solid subframe bushings.. If your manly enough for that :P

or get those nismos that have the metal insert ring = non-manly/wimp/homo/limpwristed .. I lol'd

[DALAZ_68]

you could always go with solid subframe bushings.. If your manly enough for that :P

cars gonna be track only in like 2-3 weeks

[Hawaiian240]

quick question...does the energy suspension master bushings kit does not come wiht sub frame bushings does it?

My S13 ES Hyper-flex kit came with everything except the diff bushings. Comes with front and rear sway bars(for both diameter sway bars) and end lonks, front spindles, rear uprights, tension rods, front LCA, traction rods, RUCA, Toe rods, and steering rack and a ton of lube. But it comes with the subframe inserts, not the pineapples.
http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm29/Hawaiian240/S13OEMTracCtrlrodswithESbushings.jpg

[Ali 556]

Time For :
http://www.splparts.com/main4/parts/NissanShared/Suspension/Subframe/SPLSubframeBushings.jpg

[Daniel H]

You can get poly bushes that don't need the metal ring. On my 180sx, when I did the subframe bushes I used these,
Poly Subframe Bushes - Nissan (http://www.driftworks.com/catalog/products/poly-subframe-bushes-nissan.html)
They fit into the bare hole without the metal sleeve from the old bush.

Might be worth e-mailing to see how much how much they would be shipped to the USA

[JRas]

cars gonna be track only in like 2-3 weeks

to the op, if your car is going to be strictly track in 2-3 weeks it may not be a bad choice to go with solids subframe bushings.