KA24E Performance Build For Drift??***pic***

[BoostSlideWayz]

Hey guys, Im currently working on a car that i plan on making my strict track car only. I Booted my KA24E a little while ago and had some fun with it pushing it pretty hard even tho it never really ran that great. So I decided to tear the motor down and see what it looks like inside. So im thinking about building the motor with all forged internals but i need advice if this is worth it. Some ppl have told me built KA SOHC are strong motors and hard to blow. Since this is gonna be a track car It would really make things easier if i had alittle bit of reliability and performance while im runing the engine so hard.

http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8360/dscn3213kt5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/3824/dscn3214kb2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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[IMG]http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9320/dscn3216jv4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1490/dscn3217jz7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/2584/dscn3218tk1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
the piston walls were actually glass smooth!
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4610/dscn3220za0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

So does it look worth it?? everything seemed to be in pretty good condition. It just didnt look the cleanest ever..

Some one on 240sx forums said some one put a KA24ET in there S14 running about 330 + hp and still having fun with it??

i think that would be really cool to build this motor.

Let me know what you all think of this idea.

Thanks for the time

Kody

[mobilesuit818]

Have faith in the SOHC.

I have a KA24E, with a head prepped by Javier at JG Engine Dynamics (Full Port polish, OS Valves, Springs, retainers), I also have JE Pistons and a Jim Wolf ECU.

I though I was one of the only guys out there with a SOHC.


Just to give you a comparision, I easily spin and smoke 235/16 tires with my SOHC.

PM me if you need any insight.

[s13 @ fullboost]

DO IT I would love to see something different I am so sick of seeing bad ass s chassis cars and everytime they pop the hood its a SR way more respect if you pop the hood and its a built ass SOHC for sure man do it I would really really like to see this happen +1 SOHC FTW!!!!

[lflkajfj12123]

or don't waste your money

[s13 @ fullboost]

NO NO its okay waste Your MONEY!!!!!!!




In the end it will all be worth it

[ESmorz]

or don't waste your money

To some people respect is more important.

:yum:

[mobilesuit818]

Quality is not expensive. Its priceless.

I planned to drive in the local events with my SOHC.

[drifterdave]

do it! i jsut b0ught another sohc ka off my friend for 60.00 for the whole motor and im gonna tear that down and rebuild it to stock, then take the sohc in my car and fully build it, and turbo it. if u find any good sites for parts please lmk.

[lflkajfj12123]

To some people respect is more important.

:yum:

this one time this guy rolled up to my house to buy parts

his shit was overheating since he just went turbo

i was like oh cool

then he popped the hood and i see an sohc

i died a little on the inside at that very moment

[ESmorz]

Man, I just want some fucking KFC.

But, they are closed =(

[s13 @ fullboost]

this one time this guy rolled up to my house to buy parts

his shit was overheating since he just went turbo

i was like oh cool

then he popped the hood and i see an sohc

i died a little on the inside at that very moment


Well sorry to hear that dude? But I think its cool and different and more power to you and I know a great hook up for internals for the SOHC PM me and I can get you great prices

[DataXUnknown]

My SOHC blew a month after I drove it, only tracked it once. Of course it looked horribly taken care of by the previous owner. But it gave me a reason to do an SR swap. I'm not a fan of SOHC as much anymore because things are a little harder to get to. Took me and my buddy about 3 hours trying to replace a little hose in the shape of a U that was leaking coolant right near the underside of the throttle body and intake manifold.

I'm all for it though. I wouldn't do it myself, but it would be cool to see. I know a couple guys have some pretty nice SOHC's.

[BoostSlideWayz]

this one time this guy rolled up to my house to buy parts

his shit was overheating since he just went turbo

i was like oh cool

then he popped the hood and i see an sohc

i died a little on the inside at that very moment

Lol i can tell you hate me for some reason. i dont wanna make enemies on here so i hope theres no conflict.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Sooo, the only place i can seem to find is a site called.

O & J Performance Home Page (http://estore.websitepros.com/1636426/StoreFront.bok)

They seem to have everything i need to do this build.

I deffinatly want to cancel the MAF and go maybe... greddy emanage ??

im probly gonna need a new wirring harness because the one that i have now is given up since the weather is so cold everything is cracked and just not in good condition at all..

[BoostSlideWayz]

DO IT I would love to see something different I am so sick of seeing bad ass s chassis cars and everytime they pop the hood its a SR way more respect if you pop the hood and its a built ass SOHC for sure man do it I would really really like to see this happen +1 SOHC FTW!!!!


Yeah i think SOHC boosted looks sick. heres what mine looked like before i took it out..

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2430/enginebj3.png (http://imageshack.us)

[mrmephistopheles]

this one time this guy rolled up to my house to buy parts

his shit was overheating since he just went turbo

i was like oh cool

then he popped the hood and i see an sohc

i died a little on the inside at that very moment


Congrats, you don't like KA24Es. Unless you're going to add something useful to the thread, don't post. If you want to talk about how much you hate a particular engine, start your own thread.

Man, I just want some fucking KFC.

But, they are closed =(

I see another post like this from you and it'll be a 2 month vacation from Zilvia.

Yeah i think SOHC boosted looks sick. heres what mine looked like before i took it out..

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2430/enginebj3.png (http://imageshack.us)


That looks pretty nice.



To the OP, any engine can be made to perform. KA24Es used to be used in GT3 racing here in the US (albeit in a high-comp carbureted form which saw rebuilds very frequently) to the tune of ~300hp.

[drifterdave]

hey check out import performance parts.com they have a "performance" rebuld kit for the ka24e. im not sure on quailty though.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Congrats, you don't like KA24Es. Unless you're going to add something useful to the thread, don't post. If you want to talk about how much you hate a particular engine, start your own thread.



I see another post like this from you and it'll be a 2 month vacation from Zilvia.




That looks pretty nice.



To the OP, any engine can be made to perform. KA24Es used to be used in GT3 racing here in the US (albeit in a high-comp carbureted form which saw rebuilds very frequently) to the tune of ~300hp.

Hey, thank you for the back up i really appriciate it!! yeah ive put alotta hard work into this car because drifting is my passion even tho i havent participated in the sport long i admire it greatly. Im hoping i can start saving up again to start ordering parts. What do you suggest i order first ?? I cant afford everything at once so i plan on just getting things one by one and slowly peice the motor back together.

Thanks again

kody

[GSXRJJordan]

Keep track of dollar amount you're going to spend before buying anything - SRs are cheap, and much better for boosting and beating up at the track than single cam KAs.

My stock SR also spins 235's easily. And revs out decently well. And it's cheap to maintain/replace. And I can re-sell it if I have to. Those are all maybes with your rebuilt SOHC idea.

DO NOT just start buying parts with no total budget - you will regret it in 6 months, when you try to put it back together, and find you're still hundreds of $$$ short, and can't sell any of it because everyone who's graduated from SOHC knows that they're AIDS.

[fromxtor]

I had a built SOHC, nothing wrong with building them/turboing them. You just want to make sure you do it right the first time.

[SleepyS-14]

GSXR ^ That was terrible ^

I am not saying either way but you have a terrible argument.

1. Sr's are cheap... ha. SOHC are free

2. Sr's are cheap to maintain... ha. SOHC, you can get everything at autozone

[murda-c]

GSXR ^ That was terrible ^

I am not saying either way but you have a terrible argument.

1. Sr's are cheap... ha. SOHC are free

2. Sr's are cheap to maintain... ha. SOHC, you can get everything at autozone


You'd build a motor for boost with autozone parts?

[SleepyS-14]

For water pumps, starters,gaskets and all kinds of good shit. Not timing parts though. Hell yeah.

[jrbump]

My good friend who I share a garage with had a very nicely built KA24E-T with everything done right and solid rom tuning, we used to work on it every weekend. I used to joke that we better start buying head gaskets at costco, like a 12 pack or something.

Now he has an SR and we beat on it every weekend.

I like the weekends so much better now.

I'll link him to this thread, he can give better insight beyond my "quality of life" comments.

[e1_griego]

Ha, true story. So much money dumped into it, and in the end, it just wasn't what I wanted. NA+T in my experience (beyond my own motor) is a finnicky beast, with lots of little shit that needs attention.

My build was very similar to fromxtor's -- built single cam, jgs manifold and whatnot. It was definitely a torquey sunnuvabitch, but power fell off up top. Obviously there's a lot of material that you can take out of the head, but headwork and a cam is even more money. I could have easily bought an SR instead of building a sohc, but I didn't. Live and learn. Do I regret it? Not at all. I learned a ton from doing it.

In the end I'm much happier with my bolt-on redtop, though. It makes less power and less torque, but it actually revs, has proven more reliable, and gets better gas mileage to boot (not that that really matters). It's also nice to be able to buy downpipes, fmic kits, etc. off the shelf without having to fabricate (I didn't buy the jgs dp stuff, just had a friend help me build my own).

[txrxs]

this one time this guy rolled up to my house to buy parts

his shit was overheating since he just went turbo

i was like oh cool

then he popped the hood and i see an sohc

i died a little on the inside at that very moment

Cool, that was me.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii207/txrxs/too%20bone/IMG_1432.jpg

I was running no fan shroud on a stock radiator. Like I said when I popped the hood it's not surprising the car was overheating as I was in stop and go traffic for about 30 minutes prior to getting to your parents house. I suppose I wouldn't have driven the car 3 hours if I was worried about it breaking down.

Like most of zilvia, it's very easy to judge people based on what you've read or what will make you a cool guy on here. You have a stock car yet you can judge other people? You and 90% of the forum with stock/non-running cars that always comment on weak fitment or other "cool guy zilvia" topics, yet don't walk the walk themselves.

Anyways, to the OP. If your motor is in good shape then you will be fine. It really boils down to budget. Don't cheap out on important stuff and the motor will last the same as any other motor.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Thank you, OP. I've also thought about doing a KA24ET. Granted, I have an advantage, my current SOHC has about 71k miles on it. It all depends on how you build it; if you're like a lot of KA-T'ers, you'll just throw a bunch of ghetto ass parts together, but if you take your time and get the right parts, it'll be a great little motor.

[Edgar]

Where is rep when you need it.

[GSXRJJordan]

GSXR ^ That was terrible ^

I am not saying either way but you have a terrible argument.

1. Sr's are cheap... ha. SOHC are free

2. Sr's are cheap to maintain... ha. SOHC, you can get everything at autozone

Rebuilt SOHC's are not cheap. My argument is that SR's are cheaper.

You'd build a motor for boost with autozone parts?

Exactly.

Ha, true story. So much money dumped into it, and in the end, it just wasn't what I wanted. ...
In the end I'm much happier with my bolt-on redtop, though....

Goddamn, I guess I knew what I was talking about. Did he mention all of the things I originally did, with the addition of gas mileage? I believe he did.

Cool, that was me.

*crappy pic removed*

I was running no fan shroud on a stock radiator. Like I said when I popped the hood it's not surprising the car was overheating as I was in stop and go traffic for about 30 minutes prior to getting to your house. I suppose I wouldn't have driven the car 3 hours if I was worried about it breaking down.

Like most of zilvia, it's very easy to judge people based on what you've read or what will make you a cool guy on here. You have a stock car yet you can judge other people? You and 90% of the forum with stock/non-running cars that always comment on weak fitment or other "cool guy zilvia" topics, yet don't walk the walk themselves.

Anyways, to the OP. If your motor is in good shape then you will be fine. It really boils down to budget. Don't cheap out on important stuff and the motor will last the same as any other motor.

I guess I'm the other 10% that can safely tell you you're living on borrowed time with an old NA motor and a GT28RS? slapped on there. Oh, and taking your fan shroud out? Great idea - that's why you overheated, not because you're turbo'd.

Originality be damned, show me one person who's owned an SR and decided to SOHC-T their next car. It's just a bad plan, on any budget.

[ixfxi]

i had an sohc for years... its probably one of the least efficient motors out there, a complete dog with torque, thats it. not worth building.

the SR has so many improvements that the KA-E is not worth wasting a dime on. talk to a reputable motor shop about how much it costs to properly "build" a motor, you're looking a shitload of money. you're better off picking up a used SR and calling it a day. spend your extra time and money in better ways...

as far as motors go, i could care less what motor is in a car as long as it enables the car to drive the way a sportscar is supposed to drive.

[ixfxi]

Cool, that was me.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii207/txrxs/too%20bone/IMG_1432.jpg

I was running no fan shroud on a stock radiator. Like I said when I popped the hood it's not surprising the car was overheating as I was in stop and go traffic for about 30 minutes prior to getting to your parents house. I suppose I wouldn't have driven the car 3 hours if I was worried about it breaking down.

Like most of zilvia, it's very easy to judge people based on what you've read or what will make you a cool guy on here. You have a stock car yet you can judge other people? You and 90% of the forum with stock/non-running cars that always comment on weak fitment or other "cool guy zilvia" topics, yet don't walk the walk themselves.

Anyways, to the OP. If your motor is in good shape then you will be fine. It really boils down to budget. Don't cheap out on important stuff and the motor will last the same as any other motor.

what on earth are you talking about?

your motor setup looks like complete trash, thats why your car is overheating.. its held together with zipties.

walking the walk doesnt mean owning a slapped together car. and upgrade that damm radiator, theres absolutely NO reason to install a turbo and skimp on something as vital such as a radiator, jesus christ.. what a mess.

[Edgar]

Rebuilt SOHC's are not cheap. My argument is that SR's are cheaper.



Exactly.



Goddamn, I guess I knew what I was talking about. Did he mention all of the things I originally did, with the addition of gas mileage? I believe he did.



I guess I'm the other 10% that can safely tell you you're living on borrowed time with an old NA motor and a GT28RS? slapped on there. Oh, and taking your fan shroud out? Great idea - that's why you overheated, not because you're turbo'd.

Originality be damned, show me one person who's owned an SR and decided to SOHC-T their next car. It's just a bad plan, on any budget.

I wont lie, I was a person that told TR that was a bad idea but considering the price he got the car+kit and his urge to get on the track and drive it made it awesome in my eyes. The car did pull decently, and yes it probably was a POS but someone that has stock car and then talking shit on this site and thinking they are the fucking shit doesn't get any respect from me. Especially living at home with mommy and daddy. I'm not defending the fact that SOHC-T is a bad idea but I guess arguing about it is even fucking dumber. Now lets get on the topic of boosting any KA, I bet some other dudes will get in here and defend some shit. <3

[Edgar]

what on earth are you talking about?

your motor setup looks like complete trash, thats why your car is overheating.. its held together with zipties.

walking the walk doesnt mean owning a slapped together car. and upgrade that damm radiator, theres absolutely NO reason to install a turbo and skimp on something as vital such as a radiator, jesus christ.. what a mess.

the car is dead

[GSXRJJordan]

... and his urge to get on the track and drive it made it awesome in my eyes...

I can totally relate to that, I know that's how monstrosities like SOHC-T's happen... but we're not talking about just running it till it blows and swapping in another block (which is what a lot of SR guys do), we're trying to have a fairly high-level discussion about what's cheaper, and what will be a better finished product. S13 SR20 > *all* when it comes to value, unless you've got a mint stock motor you want to NA-T and don't want much power.

[lflkajfj12123]

Rebuilt SOHC's are not cheap. My argument is that SR's are cheaper.



Exactly.



Goddamn, I guess I knew what I was talking about. Did he mention all of the things I originally did, with the addition of gas mileage? I believe he did.



I guess I'm the other 10% that can safely tell you you're living on borrowed time with an old NA motor and a GT28RS? slapped on there. Oh, and taking your fan shroud out? Great idea - that's why you overheated, not because you're turbo'd.

Originality be damned, show me one person who's owned an SR and decided to SOHC-T their next car. It's just a bad plan, on any budget.

thank you

i don't have anything against the sohc

its just that you can buy a dohc for so cheap its like under 400 dollars for everything

if you're on a budget anyways why would you be turboing it

txrxs take it easy

i don't have anything against you or your car (it is nice)

if it were me i would of put in a dohc first then turbo'd thats all

yes my car is STOCK, you came two weeks after i bought that car it is my fourth 240sx

and the parts ive bought since you came are sitting in my garage right now are going to stay there until the spring time

but apparently i don't walk the walk myself

and yes i live at my parents house hahahaha i goto college 4 miles down the road

i would be retarded NOT to

[Edgar]

oh totally

that picture doesn't do his shit justice tho

[txrxs]

Hugs all around.

That photo is from when everything was getting put together. The quality parts are there. Like I said, budget was my main concern. I boosted the car for under $700 total. I'm surprised as anyone else that it held up. The motor that was in that car was sitting in the back of a box truck for like 7 years prior to putting it into my car. I ran 15psi on a FC T3 with the stock block without any issues.

I just see so much biased hate from everyone that doesn't have first hand experience and it just weighs on my nerves.

If you want to do an sr swap go nuts, I may be doing that in my new car. If you want to boost what you have, the ka is not a bad motor in that respect either.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Hmm, So im getting lots of votes for "no go SR" i get so many mixed suggestions from ppl.


the reason i wanna build the KA is cuz ill have a built engine there for the engine will be ready to take hard beating all season.



If i were to buy a stock SR for about the same prive as the motor rebuild im getting a stock motor.

Now,, i know theres probly lots of stock Sr's out there that probly run the track all say with stock internals but im not sure how long that would last.

Like i said before, all im trying to do is work with what i got and make it by. Ive found internal parts for decent prices.

[issac]

If It's drifting that your building your car for I say stick with the stock motor sohc or dohc until you have reached the point where the only thing thats holding you back is power. Invest in suspension, tires, lsd, etc......learn how to control your car well. I only say this because I have seen people (quoc ly) for one be able to hang with the big dogs with a DOHC with minor mods intake, exhaust, cams, header etc....and is now a driver for Jasper Performance. My thing is that your car should see as much track time as possible vs garage time. Drifting is pure fun and should always be that way. If you feel that you have already reached this point than ignore my post. Bottom line is that building the SOHC can be great but at the expense of downtime. I can assume that it will require lots of time, money, and energy. If you have those three things than go for it. But why have so much downtime??? I say get on the track and have FUN!!!!

[lflkajfj12123]

i didn't mean to be a dick about that txrxs lol i was just trying to express my view on the sohc-t i do like your car its pretty clean post some pics

you're right i don't have any experience with an sohc-t but ive had sr in my first car and dohc in all my others i think that its a better choice

i won't be going SR but i will be turboing my dohc for cheap too like you did on your car

hugs

[BoostSlideWayz]

If It's drifting that your building your car for I say stick with the stock motor sohc or dohc until you have reached the point where the only thing thats holding you back is power. Invest in suspension, tires, lsd, etc......learn how to control your car well. I only say this because I have seen people (quoc ly) for one be able to hang with the big dogs with a DOHC with minor mods intake, exhaust, cams, header etc....and is now a driver for Jasper Performance. My thing is that your car should see as much track time as possible vs garage time. Drifting is pure fun and should always be that way. If you feel that you have already reached this point than ignore my post. Bottom line is that building the SOHC can be great but at the expense of downtime. I can assume that it will require lots of time, money, and energy. If you have those three things than go for it. But why have so much downtime??? I say get on the track and have FUN!!!!

Agreed, drifting is just so fun to me and it seems to be my passion. I cant get enough of it yet im stuck home with my engine sitting in the garage.

Lately ive tried drifing my MK4 supra and it was alittle tough to do but it deffinatly was fun. for my first drift i tried doing 60 MPH ha. and i tried pulling the ebrake slightly and instantly did a 180...... ( just experimenting) but all in all i felt that this is the only time im happy. in a car, working on a car, building motors.. its basicly the only time when everythings alright.

I mean, i think the KA can only get me so far. But im willing to get that far with the KA and see how it treats me after i finish it.

On the tear down it was just two friends but on the build up im taking it to a shop so everything is put in correctly and done right.

[BoostSlideWayz]

i didn't mean to be a dick about that txrxs lol i was just trying to express my view on the sohc-t i do like your car its pretty clean post some pics

you're right i don't have any experience with an sohc-t but ive had sr in my first car and dohc in all my others i think that its a better choice

i won't be going SR but i will be turboing my dohc for cheap too like you did on your car

hugs

are you reffering to me ? or the guy above your last post ?

[lflkajfj12123]

neither of you

i was talking to txrxs

[BoostSlideWayz]

Ohk then.....

[SleepyS-14]

SR is better than the KA stock for stock for sure. I like how the SR feels, but if you can build a good setup the SOHC can be very good.

Take for instance my setup... Running for over 3 years, Track only. Never had an engine issue. It makes 320hp and 340ft-lbs. Not bragging at all, but I just want to show that it isn't the engines fault that people have shitty setups.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/SleepyS-14/normal_IMG_3176.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/SleepyS-14/normal_IMG_2493.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/SleepyS-14/SOHCengine002.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/SleepyS-14/normal_IMG_2530.jpg

[Edgar]

disk swords right now.

too much ka talk in here

[Edgar]

i meant to type the d word for penis

[ESmorz]

thank you

i don't have anything against the sohc

its just that you can buy a dohc for so cheap its like under 400 dollars for everything

if you're on a budget anyways why would you be turboing it

txrxs take it easy

i don't have anything against you or your car (it is nice)

if it were me i would of put in a dohc first then turbo'd thats all

yes my car is STOCK, you came two weeks after i bought that car it is my fourth 240sx

and the parts ive bought since you came are sitting in my garage right now are going to stay there until the spring time

but apparently i don't walk the walk myself

and yes i live at my parents house hahahaha i goto college 4 miles down the road

i would be retarded NOT to

How come I don't get to go visit you?

:eek3:

One thing will always be true. KA's are some of the ugliest motors I have ever seen imo. An eye sore no matter how much you make it kick ass until it explodes.

[lflkajfj12123]

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/SleepyS-14/SOHCengine002.jpg

my mind has just been boggled

kae-t in a s14....

[BoostSlideWayz]

SR is better than the KA stock for stock for sure. I like how the SR feels, but if you can build a good setup the SOHC can be very good.

Take for instance my setup... Running for over 3 years, Track only. Never had an engine issue. It makes 320hp and 340ft-lbs. Not bragging at all, but I just want to show that it isn't the engines fault that people have shitty setups.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/SleepyS-14/normal_IMG_3176.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/SleepyS-14/normal_IMG_2493.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/SleepyS-14/SOHCengine002.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/SleepyS-14/normal_IMG_2530.jpg


That is the sickest set up ive ever seen... This deffinatly give me hope for my build. Thank you so much I really appriciate your time. and if the engine has lasted you this long this is what i need cuz i need somthing to last me while so i can worry about getting practice in and not about how much work the engine needs after a run.

THANKS

[ILoveMyRHS13]

SR is better than the KA stock for stock for sure. I like how the SR feels, but if you can build a good setup the SOHC can be very good.

Take for instance my setup... Running for over 3 years, Track only. Never had an engine issue. It makes 320hp and 340ft-lbs. Not bragging at all, but I just want to show that it isn't the engines fault that people have shitty setups.

Holy shit! :ssex:
Specs, if you don't mind?

The only thing that keeps me away from a KA-T build is the shitty red line... In one hand I have 6500, in the other I have an 8000+ CA. Yeah, thats right, I'm NOT putting an SR in my 240. :)

[GSXRJJordan]

Have fun with your CA. They're not the easiest motors to get to work well, although they do handle tons of boost.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Holy shit! :ssex:
Specs, if you don't mind?

The only thing that keeps me away from a KA-T build is the shitty red line... In one hand I have 6500, in the other I have an 8000+ CA. Yeah, thats right, I'm NOT putting an SR in my 240. :)

Awesome! yeah see its too common to see SRs in 240sx... Not to talk shit to any of you guys on the forums here i have mad respect for all of you.

But almost every 240sx i see at a show/event.. i see lots of 240sx for drift with sr20 and nothing else.. In my opinion drifting with a motor that takes alittle more skill to drift with is just to add to my advantage of the sport so when later on i actually get another competing car ill be able to tool it around like ive done it my whole life.

Thanks for the info guys. Ill keep you updated on when i start the build.

So i think i had 1 wote for not buy parts one by one?? i think today i have enough money to purchase the rods..

its not a matter of affording the parts. Its a matter of affording it all at once since i dont make the big bucks every check...

[lflkajfj12123]

you should wait till you have the money all at once

in case you changed your mind down the road

[SleepyS-14]

I am not saying that everyone should use a ka or SOHC for that matter. If you want a bolt together setup, then SR hands down. If you know how to build engines(that actually run good) and fabricate exhaust, intercooler piping, manifolds and whatever else then it really doesn't matter. Don't choose an engine that you can keep up with. If you have never built an engine or can't afford a stand-alone then I would not choose the SOHC. Sr is a simple bolt-in. I love both, I just choose the SOHC and thats all im saying. I just don't want to see another SOHC live another terrible life.

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Awesome! yeah see its too common to see SRs in 240sx... Not to talk shit to any of you guys on the forums here i have mad respect for all of you.

But almost every 240sx i see at a show/event.. i see lots of 240sx for drift with sr20 and nothing else.. In my opinion drifting with a motor that takes alittle more skill to drift with is just to add to my advantage of the sport so when later on i actually get another competing car ill be able to tool it around like ive done it my whole life.

Thanks for the info guys. Ill keep you updated on when i start the build.

So i think i had 1 wote for not buy parts one by one?? i think today i have enough money to purchase the rods..

its not a matter of affording the parts. Its a matter of affording it all at once since i dont make the big bucks every check...
I understand exactly. I think the SR is a great, easy to use motor; but I want something different. An OEM rebuilt CA with upgraded pistons and rods, with a T28 BB would be a simple little setup and would be reliable.

[BoostSlideWayz]

you should wait till you have the money all at once

in case you changed your mind down the road

Ok, yeah that makes sense. I would hate to have a whole bunch of parts for the engine and give up on it ha..

I am not saying that everyone should use a ka or SOHC for that matter. If you want a bolt together setup, then SR hands down. If you know how to build engines(that actually run good) and fabricate exhaust, intercooler piping, manifolds and whatever else then it really doesn't matter. Don't choose an engine that you can keep up with. If you have never built an engine or can't afford a stand-alone then I would not choose the SOHC. Sr is a simple bolt-in. I love both, I just choose the SOHC and thats all im saying. I just don't want to see another SOHC live another terrible life.

Well, im currently taking a welding class so i can start to fabricate my own things and the shop close to me has a tubular bending machine. and I my self know how to build a motor its just im gonna have a real machanic keep an over over my shoulder just incase.

And i was thinking of getting the greddy emanage mostly to cancel the MAF but ill deffinatly be getting everything required to keep an eye on the engine and have everything runing smooth.

[undesiredshoe]

SleepyS14's sohc setup is what made me decide to boost my sohc. Ive been driving my car boosted for almost a year and its been running fine. Like what Sleepys14 said, I couldve bought an Sr and bolted stuff but I am a diy kind of guy.

Im currently boosting at 9psi with a turbonetics t3/t4 on a completely stock block. This spring, I plan on running 20psi...just for shits and giggles because i have a spare sohc and i know i can get more for cheap.

[thefro526]

I have a friend who's building a SOHC.

It's definitely going to be fun when he's done. I rode in it before and it felt great. That being said, the person he got it from kinda half assed the whole thing so he blew some stuff after driving it for about a month.

I think you'll be fine though, KA-ET's are fun because they make really good torque.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Yeah when i was driving mine around it was really fun. Except the fact the injectors were stock so it was hitting fuel cut almost soon as it boosted. But the engine was getting the oil dirty and fouling the plugs sooooo fast it was getting on my nerves. I think the valve stem seals were gone cuz there was alittle oil in the turbo manifold when i took the motor out..

[jakerps13]

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/SleepyS-14/SOHCengine002.jpg

The steam engine.

This has got to be one of the easiest engines to drive, maintain, and learn on. Jordan's s14 kat build is on ka-t.org if you're looking for specs.

[fckillerbee]

YouTube - Henry Schelley Smokin Sideway Federal Tyres (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56NkJ4WXfhQ)
Henry built this car from the ground up. used the ka since it was easy to pickup motors in case he ever blew one. who knew this motor would last him the whole formula d 2008 season. Only thing to think about now, is 100mph+ drifting in a ka-t. around 380whp around 4800 rpm's. but dies to around 240 at redline. great for track days...not so good for formula d's 500-600whp competition.

My opinion...depends on your final destination. I was gonna go ka-t till I found out they max at 400whp with great mods. I know you can get rediculous 800whp out of them...but buy a SR, forge the internals, and run 14psi of boost, car will be reliable for damn near forever running 300whp.

haha or you can be a complete cheater and put a LSx motor in your 240 and you'll have infinite NA power hahahaha.

[BoostSlideWayz]

YouTube - Henry Schelley Smokin Sideway Federal Tyres (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56NkJ4WXfhQ)
Henry built this car from the ground up. used the ka since it was easy to pickup motors in case he ever blew one. who knew this motor would last him the whole formula d 2008 season. Only thing to think about now, is 100mph+ drifting in a ka-t. around 380whp around 4800 rpm's. but dies to around 240 at redline. great for track days...not so good for formula d's 500-600whp competition.

My opinion...depends on your final destination. I was gonna go ka-t till I found out they max at 400whp with great mods. I know you can get rediculous 800whp out of them...but buy a SR, forge the internals, and run 14psi of boost, car will be reliable for damn near forever running 300whp.

haha or you can be a complete cheater and put a LSx motor in your 240 and you'll have infinite NA power hahahaha.

That cars got it down for sure. I dont look forward to hitting the formula D events anytime soon since im gonna need ALOTTA practice jsut to get on podium. Im hoping i can start this build soon cuz i think im just gonna go for it and see how this build turns out.

Thanks guys for the advice!! im not sure how soon this build will happen since this family is really low on money at the moment. theyve been helping me this whole time get the car where it is right just to find out we need a couple more grand to fofill this dream of mine.

[fromxtor]

My old setup:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/fromxtor/100_0403.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/fromxtor/100_0402.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/fromxtor/100_0404.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/fromxtor/100_0407.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5679/cimg1016op9.jpg
YouTube - Turbo's love heat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0WV7qJ9u8Q)
YouTube - SOHC Turbo S13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfBpo_iG13k)
^^ 327 corrected wheel HP and 362 corrected lbs tq at the wheels at 18-20 psi and this was before they switched over to a N62 maf.

[BustedS13]

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/SleepyS-14/SOHCengine002.jpg

The steam engine.

This has got to be one of the easiest engines to drive, maintain, and learn on. Jordan's s14 kat build is on ka-t.org if you're looking for specs.

is that detroit diesel alpine green? i can dig it

[ChristopherL]

I think it'd be a great project to build a KA-T especially if you have another car to drive around and play with. (Mk4 Supra) But I'm reading alot of people saying that they're 'bored' of seeing Sr's in 240's and saying that it isn't original etc... I'd just like to make it clear that the KA COMES in the 240sx, incase everyone forgot that, so anyone that owns a 240sx at some point had a KA in it..... Unless they bought one with a swapped Sr/whatever. And personally I'd say Sr's are quite reliable, just stick with an S14/15 SR and upgrade injectors/turbo/tune/fuel pump and you could be putting down a reliable 300whp setup. If you so desired to invest some time and quality parts into it. Motors designed for boost, will always take it better.

[BustedS13]

But I'm reading alot of people saying that they're 'bored' of seeing Sr's in 240's and saying that it isn't original etc...

people who say this are generally POSER DOUCHEBAGS.
and these POSER DOUCHEBAGS rarely get anything done, ka, sr, rb, ls1, or other.

[jrbump]

This has got to be one of the easiest engines to drive, maintain, and learn on.

I would have to agree, as you are going to have endless opportunities to maintain and learn on a KA-T setup. lawlz.


people who say this are generally POSER DOUCHEBAGS.
and these POSER DOUCHEBAGS rarely get anything done, ka, sr, rb, ls1, or other.

agreemanceXelevenfinity.

I just love what they are tired of "seeing", not "doing" shit -but tired of "seeing" nonetheless.

[drftwerks]

my mind has just been boggled

kae-t in a s14....

mind bottling isnt it.

[mobilesuit818]

My old setup:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/fromxtor/100_0403.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/fromxtor/100_0402.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/fromxtor/100_0404.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/fromxtor/100_0407.jpg
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/5679/cimg1016op9.jpg
YouTube - Turbo's love heat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0WV7qJ9u8Q)
YouTube - SOHC Turbo S13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfBpo_iG13k)
^^ 327 corrected wheel HP and 362 corrected lbs tq at the wheels at 18-20 psi and this was before they switched over to a N62 maf.

What manifold did you guys use? How did you guys relocated the power steering?

[SochBAT]

Hi guys!

KAE-T, do it. Most fun you will ever have.

Tracking it shouldn't be a problem. One big problem with SOHC's are the numerous vacuum lines which get effing retarded. Otherwise, have fun.

PS. Doug says hello!

Makotoseven.com (http://www.makotoseven.com/gallery.htm)
Makotoseven.com (http://www.makotoseven.com/modifications.htm)

He sold his car back in December but does have some things left over if any KA boosters want. Nismo FPR, MSD-6AL, Q45 TB's.

PPS.

Foxtrot, were you running a topmount log?

[fromxtor]

What manifold did you guys use? How did you guys relocated the power steering?

JGS manifold, and get some rubber hose. You can mount the reservoir where ever you want.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/fromxtor/100_0699.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/fromxtor/100_0700.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/fromxtor/000_0707.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/fromxtor/000_0706.jpg

[BoostSlideWayz]

Im really liking the pics that are being posted this is awesome!

I have enough money right now to buy the bottom end...

Pistons i was thinking 8.8 Cr
eagle rods
Engine bearings
Rods Bearings

should i go all standard ? or what ??

if so im gonna order them tomorrow

Thanks!!!!

PS: Are ARP main and head studs a MUST for my build ??

[s13 @ fullboost]

Yess ARP is the shit although once in awhile you get a bad batch and they snapp but most the time they work wonders =]

[BoostSlideWayz]

Ok, when i get the parts in ill let you guys see some photos.

What do you think is good to paint my car ??

Since the motor is out i can probly paint under the hood so i might aswell take that advantage.

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9885/nissanzb3.png (http://imageshack.us)

primer white right now. I just wet sanded it. Im currently studying paint jobs. for Christmas i got a HVLP spray gun with a 26 LBS 150 PSI air compressor.

what colors do you guys think is good for a comp car? I was thinking a flashy color since i would want the judges to focus on my car when ever im out there..

Yellow? light blue ? white ?? im not sure lemme know guys thanks !

[artdrifter]

TOTALLY GO FOR IT!! my first 240 was a single cam and that thing was a beast. i beat the shit out of that thing and it held on forever.... until i smashed into a 1 foot high curb. It will be a lot of money but will be worth it in the end.

[Matej]

SOHC's look so small and cool, I kind of want one.

My favorite car with a KA24E is the BN demo S14.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t191/Jspecbnr32/IMG_5724.jpg

[ESmorz]

what colors do you guys think is good for a comp car? I was thinking a flashy color since i would want the judges to focus on my car when ever im out there..

Yellow? light blue ? white ?? im not sure lemme know guys thanks !

/Life

:smash:

[BoostSlideWayz]

/Life

:smash:


Im kinda one of the slow ones....

I dont get it..

[ESmorz]

I know.

I even kind of feel bad now.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/2750118481_00ce55a1dc.jpg?v=0

[BoostSlideWayz]

I know.

I even kind of feel bad now.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/2750118481_00ce55a1dc.jpg?v=0

Lol ok then

[mobilesuit818]

Turboing my SOHC is so tempting....

[ESmorz]

PS: Are ARP main and head studs a MUST for my build ??

Not a must but, it certainly won't hurt.

Hell even on OEM rebuilds I still use ARP.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Not a must but, it certainly won't hurt.

Hell even on OEM rebuilds I still use ARP.

So should i get the main and head studs ? or just the head studs alone?

Im thinking of getting both.

[ESmorz]

Well if it is power you want, why not go all out. In the grand scheme of things it's just a couple bucks.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Well if it is power you want, why not go all out. In the grand scheme of things it's just a couple bucks.

True true, so far in price range im looking at:

Pistons-499.99- not including shipping on any of products...
Rods-334.99
Engine main bearings-54.99
Rods Bearings-39.99
ARP main studs-129.99
ARP head studs -139.99

......$1199.94

[GSXRJJordan]

True true, so far in price range im looking at:

Pistons-499.99- not including shipping on any of products...
Rods-334.99
Engine main bearings-54.99
Rods Bearings-39.99
ARP main studs-129.99
ARP head studs -139.99

......$1199.94

Hahaha.

Assuming you have all the turbo equipment, + Fuel Pump + FPR + Injectors + MAF + ECU (ROM tune?)/Standalone, and all that will get you to where a stock-block SR20 is power-wise.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Hahaha.

Assuming you have all the turbo equipment, + Fuel Pump + FPR + Injectors + MAF + ECU (ROM tune?)/Standalone, and all that will get you to where a stock-block SR20 is power-wise.

Yeah ive got all that.. I just wanna get the bottom end complete.

Ive already got

T3/T4 turbo with all the other etc needed for a kit.
255LPH fuel pump
460CC RX7 Injectors but i think i might get some bran new injectors not sure yet
I have yet to get FPR
i have stock ecu tuned with e-prom. Im looking forward to upgrade to the greddy emanage to cancel the MAF and have a better controll over everything under the hood.

[jrbump]

SOHC's look so small and cool, I kind of want one.

My favorite car with a KA24E is the BN demo S14.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t191/Jspecbnr32/IMG_5724.jpg



I was under the impression that the single cam was put in that car solely for the purpose of driving it to a meet to help sell it. Not for any love of single cams.

I don't want to put words in the owners or the shop that had it's mouths but that was my understanding.

[BoostSlideWayz]

I was under the impression that the single cam was put in that car solely for the purpose of driving it to a meet to help sell it. Not for any love of single cams.

I don't want to put words in the owners or the shop that had it's mouths but that was my understanding.

How did you find that out?? I think thats sad... SOHC in my sight are beautiful engines.... in a way a dream engine for drifters...

super easy to work on. Low maintanace and torque.... You may need a diff motor if you heading forthe high MPH drifts but this engine to me is perfect for a beginner.

[GSXRJJordan]

Yeah ive got all that.. I just wanna get the bottom end complete.

Ive already got

T3/T4 turbo with all the other etc needed for a kit.
255LPH fuel pump
460CC RX7 Injectors but i think i might get some bran new injectors not sure yet
I have yet to get FPR
i have stock ecu tuned with e-prom. Im looking forward to upgrade to the greddy emanage to cancel the MAF and have a better controll over everything under the hood.

Unless the Emanage is different for SOHC's than all other motors, it's a piggy-back. Keep a MAF, piggyback's with MAP sensors are not nearly as good as standalone's made for MAP sensors.

Glad you've already got some other things, but you realize those could all go on a SR with just a head gasket and make WAY more power, right?

How did you find that out?? I think thats sad... SOHC in my sight are beautiful engines.... in a way a dream engine for drifters...

super easy to work on. Low maintanace and torque.... You may need a diff motor if you heading forthe high MPH drifts but this engine to me is perfect for a beginner.

Dude you need to take a step back with the "dream engine" crap. Not to intentionally burst your bubble any more, but they're a horrible choice for a drifting motor - no power (unless you spend lots of $$$ first), not any easier to work on than any other motor, narrow powerband (that's the biggest one for me - SR/RB powerband are much wider). They're cheap, that's the only plus.

Like I said, find me one person that's gone from SOHC to another engine (any engine) and likes the SOHC better.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Unless the Emanage is different for SOHC's than all other motors, it's a piggy-back. Keep a MAF, piggyback's with MAP sensors are not nearly as good as standalone's made for MAP sensors.

Glad you've already got some other things, but you realize those could all go on a SR with just a head gasket and make WAY more power, right?



Dude you need to take a step back with the "dream engine" crap. Not to intentionally burst your bubble any more, but they're a horrible choice for a drifting motor - no power (unless you spend lots of $$$ first), not any easier to work on than any other motor, narrow powerband (that's the biggest one for me - SR/RB powerband are much wider). They're cheap, that's the only plus.

Like I said, find me one person that's gone from SOHC to another engine (any engine) and likes the SOHC better.

Well theres the guy that took his DOHC out for the SOHC.... and since hes been driving the car for 3 years on track only with not internal engine problems that to me is good enough to build my car... from my experiance i like the way the KA works any feels. when it was boosted before it stopped starting it drove good and pulled way hard. i was happy.. unfrotunatly the outer plugs were the only ones that were sparking for some reason and it jus wouldnt start so i decided to do this..

[spencer240sx]

I went from sr20det to a ka24e and i love that motor done 3 events on it with know problems ran HTM with it....
I think it ie a great motor to start on and learn how to drive becuse if you can drive with it and get good just wait till you get some power.:boink:

[GSXRJJordan]

I went from sr20det to a ka24e and i love that motor done 3 events on it with know problems ran HTM with it....
I think it ie a great motor to start on and learn how to drive becuse if you can drive with it and get good just wait till you get some power.:boink:

I respect your opinion, but I'm guessing:

1) You went from SR to KA-E because you fucked your SR, right?
2) Driving a turd to become a better driver is not the topic of this conversation.

[BigVinnie]

I would say to do this as a parts list.

Bottom End Assembly
Ishihara and Johnson crank scrapper and windage tray
Bullnose and knife edge crank shaft (drops about 3 lb.s)
eagle rods
cp pistons (9.0:1 CR)
datsun/nissan L28 oil pump, or TOGA HV oil pump
bearings
seals/gaskets

Top End Assembly
solid adjustable lifters
Crower camshaft
.020 valve enlargement on exhaust valves
.010 valve enlargement on intake valves
Port and extrude intake ports
seals/gaskets

Bolt on modifications
Chromoly or aluminum flywheel
exsessive intake manifold
JGS exhaust manifold
HX35 holset turbo
silvia intercooler
1G blow off valve
platinum spark plugs
stage 2 clutch kit
electric fan kit

Fuel management
440cc injectors top feed
project silvia top feed fuel rail or honda prelude fuel rail
circuit sports 255 fuel pump
fuel pressure regulator

engine management
enthalapy tune
boost controller
turbo timer
N60 MAF

[Matej]

I was under the impression that the single cam was put in that car solely for the purpose of driving it to a meet to help sell it. Not for any love of single cams.

I don't want to put words in the owners or the shop that had it's mouths but that was my understanding.
Nothing cooler than a stock KA24E with a cone filter in a Blister S14 on 19's.

[BigVinnie]

Half of you guys in this forum are idiots.
Boostslidewayz wants to build up a KA24E-T.
I would rather go with the ka24de, or VQ myself but that is my preference, just as the KA24e is his prefrence.
Any way it comes down to most of you clowns don't understand the heritage behind some of the greatest racing engines of all times.
your stuck in your little wanna be drifter lifestyle's where sr's are the shit, KA's suck attitude.
Half of you guys in this forum need to get your head out of your asses.

The KA engine has been used in more US motorsports than the sr has. But then again most of you kiddies are stuck watching Initial D, or the touge challenge.

It's also been built to hold down more than 300WHP naturally aspirated.
Almost 600WHP boosted for the ka24(e)
Over 900WHP for the KA24(de)
On a naturally aspirated build the KA is cheaper than the sr.
On a boosted build sure it cost a little bit more to build up the KA. When it's all said and done though chances are it will make more power than the sr that came F.O.B.

Help this guy out with his build, have some positive things to say or get the fuck out.
In the process you are just ridiculing him when you talk down to his ideas, it makes all of you pieces of shit.

[ixfxi]

yeah yeah.... talk talk talk.

the ka24e is still a big pile of shit. i owned one WAY too long to know.

of course, put money into it and im sure you can make it a much better motor, but at what cost?

i believe its wise to research these costs before dumping money into a fucking SINGLE CAM MOTOR.

twin cam is the way to go.

Half of you guys in this forum are idiots.
Boostslidewayz wants to build up a KA24E-T.
I would rather go with the ka24de, or VQ myself but that is my preference, just as the KA24e is his prefrence.
Any way it comes down to most of you clowns don't understand the heritage behind some of the greatest racing engines of all times.
your stuck in your little wanna be drifter lifestyle's where sr's are the shit, KA's suck attitude.
Half of you guys in this forum need to get your head out of your asses.

The KA engine has been used in more US motorsports than the sr has. But then again most of you kiddies are stuck watching Initial D, or the touge challenge.

It's also been built to hold down more than 300WHP naturally aspirated.
Almost 600WHP boosted for the ka24(e)
Over 900WHP for the KA24(de)
On a naturally aspirated build the KA is cheaper than the sr.
On a boosted build sure it cost a little bit more to build up the KA. When it's all said and done though chances are it will make more power than the sr that came F.O.B.

Help this guy out with his build, have some positive things to say or get the fuck out.
In the process you are just ridiculing him when you talk down to his ideas, it makes all of you pieces of shit.

[jrbump]

How did you find that out?? I think thats sad...

I know the owner of the car (at that time) and the owner of the shop it was at. That's what the shop owner told me. LOL, it blew black clouds too, it was tired as fuck. as they tend to be.

[e1_griego]

Since I actually did all the research, spent the money, did the build, drove it for 9k miles or so, then sold it (and bought an SR), I DO have room to talk. I would just recommend going a different route. Without a lot of headwork the motor chokes off sorta quick, leaving you with a somewhat limited powerband.

Heritage means fuckall in this instance. The racing single cams were like 14:1 comp motors that lasted for 24hr between rebuilds. Yes they made huge power with sidedrafts carbs, but that's not the goal here.

Single cam turbos have also put down like 720whp, but that's not to say that any ol' motor can make that kind of power, even without figuring in the reliability aspect.

In any event, to the OP, good luck if you pursue this route. You WILL learn a lot but you will also spend some decent coin if you do it right.

[BoostSlideWayz]

I do plan on spending my money on top quality parts and having a shop help me/guide me the right way so i have a some what reliable motor. im sure 330HP wouldnt be too hard on the SOHC would it??

Im hearing almost equal amounts of oppinions about how the KA is good and bad but ive got some good info on the motor so i think i might just build it...

I plan on ordering the parts soon for the bottom end. then ill have the head ported,stage 2 cam, valve train etc. maybe even upgraded intake manifold ha. thad be cool in my eyes.

Thanks guys for all the info and opinions i greatly appriciate it and will use everything youve told me and keep it in thought when im doing the build...

thanks again

-Kody

[Z33dori]

Yeah i think SOHC boosted looks sick. heres what mine looked like before i took it out..

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2430/enginebj3.png (http://imageshack.us)

damn that looks nice


OP....DO it... also as it is built correctly (aka take your time, double check, triple check everything) then it will hold up great....

[BigVinnie]

of course, put money into it and im sure you can make it a much better motor, but at what cost?

i believe its wise to research these costs before dumping money into a fucking SINGLE CAM MOTOR.


Build what you like man.
Think outside the BOX.

You can build a single cam actually cheaper than what it takes for me to get my dual cam parts. It's cheaper to build a SOHC than it is to build up an sr20.
Theres an abundance of parts from the nissan parts BIN (L28, NAPSZ) that can be modified for the KAE, not the KADE which is cheaper nd better.

the only thing I don't like about the SOHC is that it uses lifters.....Oh what a minute........Isn't that a motherfucker, the sr20det uses piece of shit lifters also...

The only shitty thing about the sohc on any realistic level is that you can't adjust valve overlaps like you can with the DOHC. Also without solid lifters it's limited to it's rev range of about 6800RPM.

Other than that you can port the living shit out of it, get mopre flow out of it than a DOHC, use larger valves and call it a day.

[J40sx]

go for it

if more people, like yoursel,f build up the sohc for turbo,
maybe big brand names (trusted) will make more and even better parts
for the motor, as they have done for the dual cam KA's

[BoostSlideWayz]

Good news guys, I should be ordering the parts tomorrow. The bottom end parts that is..

Do you think the stock crank can handle 300+ ?? i would like to have room for more HP later on when i need it.

parts tomorrow should be:

pistons... O & J Performance KA24E/DE Pistons (http://estore.websitepros.com/1636426/Categories.bok?category=KA24E%2FDE+Pistons)

I was thinking 89.5mm 8.8 CR (http://estore.websitepros.com/1636426/Detail.bok?no=420) for the pistons ? let me know what a better C.R. should be best for my application

rods-eagle- O & J Performance Connecting Rods (http://estore.websitepros.com/1636426/Categories.bok?category=Connecting+Rods)

crank bearings- O & J Performance Engine Bearings (http://estore.websitepros.com/1636426/Categories.bok?category=Engine+Bearings)

rod bearings


and later on when i get alittle more money ill start on the top end.

thanks guys

[BoostSlideWayz]

damn that looks nice


OP....DO it... also as it is built correctly (aka take your time, double check, triple check everything) then it will hold up great....


lol why thank you, its alot better than when i first got the car..

1992 nissan 240sx BIG project Video by KODY-T.S.W - MySpace Video (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=33508365)
^ lol im not crazy i was just excited i got it for 800 bucks. it had a front end but i took it off to do the S15 conversion

Then 4 maybe 5 months later lol long time and it still ran ruff.


Sea Foam Nissan 240SX Video by KODY-T.S.W - MySpace Video (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=45462008)

LOL i am not proud of these videos what so ever but i think there funny

[BigVinnie]

Good news guys, I should be ordering the parts tomorrow. The bottom end parts that is..

Do you think the stock crank can handle 300+ ??

Stock crank can handle 400HP. Its a forged steel crank shaft.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Ohh ok, thanks

[burnsauto]

Yes, as kevin stated, they use them in GT3 SCCA racing and yes, it is that awesome.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d115/slavetopaint/s14_race.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d115/slavetopaint/ka24e_race.jpg

[s13 @ fullboost]

That must sound so nice ^^

[ChicagoS14]

or don't waste your money

Or don't speak if you don't have any experience or any opinions worth posting. Stick to your SR and be happy.

[ChicagoS14]

Sooo, the only place i can seem to find is a site called.

O & J Performance Home Page (http://estore.websitepros.com/1636426/StoreFront.bok)

They seem to have everything i need to do this build.

I deffinatly want to cancel the MAF and go maybe... greddy emanage ??

im probly gonna need a new wirring harness because the one that i have now is given up since the weather is so cold everything is cracked and just not in good condition at all..

This is not the forum for these kind of questions, if you want real experiences and opinions join up here:

KA-T.org - The Home of 1000+ whp/7 sec Turbo KA's (http://www.ka-t.org) - they have a whole section dedicated to SOHC motors and contrary to all these JDM SR fan boys KA motors both DOHC and SOHC can handle power very nicely and will easily embarrass an SR.

[Edgar]

Or don't speak if you don't have any experience or any opinions worth posting. Stick to your SR and be happy.

that scca car gave me bones :ddog:

[ChicagoS14]

Yeah when i was driving mine around it was really fun. Except the fact the injectors were stock so it was hitting fuel cut almost soon as it boosted. But the engine was getting the oil dirty and fouling the plugs sooooo fast it was getting on my nerves. I think the valve stem seals were gone cuz there was alittle oil in the turbo manifold when i took the motor out..

If you get the right parts and do the most important part: TUNE THE CAR then it will be smooth, reliable and very fun to drive. Its even more fun to spank SRs and have SR owners ask you what you have done on your SR and then pop your hood to show a KA.

[ChicagoS14]

Heres a sexi car, even though its running a DOHC KA:

KA-T.org - The Home of 1000+ whp/7 sec Turbo KA's (http://www.ka-t.org/240sxmotoring_drift.php)

But getting back to sexi SOHC KAs:

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d193/nis720/nis720/IMG_0562a.jpg
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d193/nis720/nis720/PICT1479a.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/9245/cimg0552oo3.jpg

[BoostSlideWayz]

mmmmm i see some awesome looking cars on here..

deffinatly way more fun to look at then seeing an SR everytime.

[ESmorz]

deffinatly way more fun to look at then seeing an SR everytime.

Definitely? Why?

[GSXRJJordan]

Lol, this started out as a discussion of what was cheaper to get what you want done.

Now it's a parade of high-$$$ Ka-T's, and you're doing exactly the opposite of what everyone said to do (you're buying parts piecemeal, instead of waiting until you get all the $$$ and then making a decision).

I'm unsubscribing and going on with my life.

[Om1kron]

Help this guy out with his build, have some positive things to say or get the fuck out.
In the process you are just ridiculing him when you talk down to his ideas, it makes all of you pieces of shit.

thanks for saving my time... =)

[BoostSlideWayz]

Lol, this started out as a discussion of what was cheaper to get what you want done.

Now it's a parade of high-$$$ Ka-T's, and you're doing exactly the opposite of what everyone said to do (you're buying parts piecemeal, instead of waiting until you get all the $$$ and then making a decision).

I'm unsubscribing and going on with my life.

Yes but basicly completing the bottom end will make it so i only have to worry about that. i think its a smart move. my previous post about should i buy part by part was meaning literally only buy one piece at a time. buying the whole bottom end is making it easier on me cuz then i have a virtually complete engine.

[Pacman]

Yeah, get to KA-T.org, where they love KA's in all fashions, FWD, RWD, Trucks, Single cams, Dual cams, etc. Don't let the SR lovers here try to change you.

BTW, I've driven SR cars, RB cars and KA's. I still like the KA the best and thats why I'm keeping it. Say whatever you like :D

[BillWatcher]

If you need advice call Full Race, ask for Eric. He has a single cam setup that is pretty nice.

(Did not read threw all the pages, so sorry if it was posted already)

[BigVinnie]

If you want a reliable KA24e-T with a warrantee I would just buy a fully built block from HRT performance.
if you want to build it yourself you can possibly be dealing with defective parts. Besides HRT blocks come square decked as well, even compression to every cylinder!!!!
For a warranty on a boosted E engine I would trust HRT.
HRT Performance (http://www.handcraftedracing.com/engines.html)

[BoostSlideWayz]

If you want a reliable KA24e-T with a warrantee I would just buy a fully built block from HRT performance.
if you want to build it yourself you can possibly be dealing with defective parts. Besides HRT blocks come square decked as well, even compression to every cylinder!!!!
For a warranty on a boosted E engine I would trust HRT.
HRT Performance (http://www.handcraftedracing.com/engines.html)

Yes, ive seen those before. The only way i would be able to afford that right now would be to sell my dirt bike..

anyone interested in a 250 ?

[BigVinnie]

anyone interested in a 250 ?

How much, and how many hours, my fiances brother buys dirt bikes like every other month..... No seriously...

[illvialuver]

is it worth it? that is the most important question for everything in life.
it all depends on you. what will make you happy and what you want. plenty of people will say that its not dual cam so its crap, or its not sr its crap, don't listen to them. if you want to do that than do it. everything has pros and cons. trust your gut more than your ears cause people will talk alot of shit. just do what will make you happy. if all else fails, you will learn something from it and than move on to something else.

[SochBAT]

GT spec SOHC's are machines. So damn scary.

Rebello makes good parts to freshen it up.

I'm tell you to do it. Vinnie is right, there is a retarded amount of history and pride that goes with the KAE.

infinitexsounds up north is a good man to ask about. He's got his shit down.

[BoostSlideWayz]

How much, and how many hours, my fiances brother buys dirt bikes like every other month..... No seriously...

hours.... im not sure how you measure hours on a bike... its an 05 CRF 250 are procitcuit built motor, trial teck suspension, excel wheels, twin power flow kit, boysen quick shot, pro taper metal throttle tube, crt metal reusable oil filter, protaper oversized bars, procircuit clutch lever and body, works connection launch control, works onnections skid plate, works connection engine plugs, over sized front waved rotor, stock sized rear waved rotor.

thats all i can think off the top of my head. the bike runs alot better than it looks.

i was hoping to get around 3k for it

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5262/dscn3050ba6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6554/dscn3051pb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[BigVinnie]

hours.... im not sure how you measure hours on a bike... its an 05 CRF 250 are procitcuit built motor, trial teck suspension, excel wheels, twin power flow kit, boysen quick shot, pro taper metal throttle tube, crt metal reusable oil filter, protaper oversized bars, procircuit clutch lever and body, works connection launch control, works onnections skid plate, works connection engine plugs, over sized front waved rotor, stock sized rear waved rotor.

thats all i can think off the top of my head. the bike runs alot better than it looks.

i was hoping to get around 3k for it

http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5262/dscn3050ba6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/6554/dscn3051pb3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

He was just offered a 750 barely used for $4000.
He thinks you can defenitely get it sold for around $2750. Markets bad and he doesn't feel that you could get $3000 for it right now.
It looks clean thats for sure, doesn't look to abused from the photos.

[BoostSlideWayz]

He was just offered a 750 barely used for $4000.
He thinks you can defenitely get it sold for around $2750. Markets bad and he doesn't feel that you could get $3000 for it right now.
It looks clean thats for sure, doesn't look to abused from the photos.

Thanks, yeah thats proly what its worth. Its just i was trying to get alteast a quarter of the money i put into it.

Thanks for showing it tho and the help on the thread.

I have about 1100 right now... what should i do? buy the bottom end parts so the block is done and then just finish the head alittle later??

[BigVinnie]

I have about 1100 right now... what should i do? buy the bottom end parts so the block is done and then just finish the head alittle later??


Save your dollars man. You should double up your money in a month or 2 if you focus on priorities.
If you sell your bike you will reach your goals in no time flat.
Selling your bike would be enough to get the HRT long block and your turbo parts.

You could even sell your stripped block on craigs list for $150, and the bottom end parts for another $150 on craigslist.


There's nothing wrong with spending money on the fruits of another mans labor.
Buying from a reputable shop rather than you building yourself is worth every penny spent.

Don't give up on the KAE though more than likely you will smoke most SR swapped 240's that were just swapped and bone stock on boost, with a few more donkey punches for shits and giggles. Don't believe all the crap you hear in zilvia, the KA is defenitely no underdog.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Save your dollars man. You should double up your money in a month or 2 if you focus on priorities.
If you sell your bike you will reach your goals in no time flat.
Selling your bike would be enough to get the HRT long block and your turbo parts.

You could even sell your stripped block on craigs list for $150, and the bottom end parts for another $150 on craigslist.


There's nothing wrong with spending money on the fruits of another mans labor.
Buying from a reputable shop rather than you building yourself is worth every penny spent.

Don't give up on the KAE though more than likely you will smoke most SR swapped 240's that were just swapped and bone stock on boost, with a few more donkey punches for shits and giggles. Don't believe all the crap you hear in zilvia, the KA is defenitely no underdog.


Ohh ok, well if i can sell the bike i hope so. The thing is every one where i live is like poor.... I put it on craigslist a few time and on mxclassifieds and i just get alotta views no calls or emails... i usually put 3k obo soooo.. idk...

Do you think it would be ok if i did just finish the bottom end and have it sit till i can make the money for the top end?? cuz i doubt anyones gonna buy my bike. When MXers here that u have a race built motor they instantly think you beat the shit out of it and it has problems non stop. I havent had one problem since i had the engine built... idk i needa find some way to make some money. I wanna go to the track so bad!! ha

[BigVinnie]

Do you think it would be ok if i did just finish the bottom end and have it sit till i can make the money for the top end?? cuz i doubt anyones gonna buy my bike. When MXers here that u have a race built motor they instantly think you beat the shit out of it and it has problems non stop. I havent had one problem since i had the engine built... idk i needa find some way to make some money. I wanna go to the track so bad!! ha

Yeah you could start rebuilding the bottom end your self. Just make sure you build it with the right parts.
Make sure that you get the L28 oil sump or you will end up regretting your build in the long run.
get your crankshaft bullnosed and knife edged too.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Yeah you could start rebuilding the bottom end your self. Just make sure you build it with the right parts.
Make sure that you get the L28 oil sump or you will end up regretting your build in the long run.
get your crankshaft bullnosed and knife edged too.


Ohh ok so im gonna need a machin shop huh ??

I ordered the parts today. came out to 950.00 including shipping.

8.8 Cr arias pistons non silicone coating

eagle rods

engine main and rods bearings

So do you think i can get the oil pump off ebay ??

I found a rebuild kit but i think it comes with the stock oil pump.

Lemme look around and see what i find.... L28 oil pump.....:EDIT: found one.. around 70 bucks... looks like mine but this is for I6 huh ?? so oil delivery should be much greater.

http://www.partsgeek.com/catalog/1983/nissan/280zx/engine_mechanical/oil_pump.html

[BigVinnie]

Lemme look around and see what i find.... L28 oil pump.....:EDIT: found one.. around 70 bucks... looks like mine but this is for I6 huh ?? so oil delivery should be much greater.


Yeah you will need the L28 oil pump. It's a high volume pump for the KA24e at a fraction of the price of a TOGA high volume pump. KA's get alot of oil starvation after 5000RPM. L28 oil pump is an excellent upgrade for your KAe..

The KA24e oil pump uses a different gear to pump the oil. The ratio on the L28 is much better. Nissan should of just continued using the L28 pump for the KAE. as you can see they are infact identical.

Part number on the KA24e pump :W0133-1620428
Part number on the L28 oil pump :W0133-1618502

pic of the KA24e oil pump.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/BigVinnie/KA24eoilpump.jpg
pic of the L28 oil pump.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/BigVinnie/L28oilpump.jpg

[fromxtor]

If you want a reliable KA24e-T with a warrantee I would just buy a fully built block from HRT performance.
if you want to build it yourself you can possibly be dealing with defective parts. Besides HRT blocks come square decked as well, even compression to every cylinder!!!!
For a warranty on a boosted E engine I would trust HRT.
HRT Performance (http://www.handcraftedracing.com/engines.html)

It's funny you mention HRT, I personally know Joel and his Dad. HRT is like 45mins - 1 hour from me.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Yeah you will need the L28 oil pump. It's a high volume pump for the KA24e at a fraction of the price of a TOGA high volume pump. KA's get alot of oil starvation after 5000RPM. L28 oil pump is an excellent upgrade for your KAe..

The KA24e oil pump uses a different gear to pump the oil. The ratio on the L28 is much better. Nissan should of just continued using the L28 pump for the KAE. as you can see they are infact identical.

Part number on the KA24e pump :W0133-1620428
Part number on the L28 oil pump :W0133-1618502

pic of the KA24e oil pump.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/BigVinnie/KA24eoilpump.jpg
pic of the L28 oil pump.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/BigVinnie/L28oilpump.jpg


Sooo, will i need a different gear that turns that one ?? if so where can i get one ??

[BigVinnie]

Sooo, will i need a different gear that turns that one ?? if so where can i get one ??

No just use the L28 pump it mounts right in.

[BigVinnie]

It's funny you mention HRT, I personally know Joel and his Dad. HRT is like 45mins - 1 hour from me.

joel use to be one of the moderators at 200sxforums.

[BoostSlideWayz]

No just use the L28 pump it mounts right in.


ok awesome Ill probly order that next. I have a few bucks left HA.

[BoostSlideWayz]

(Bump)

Pistons Arrived today, i ordered the ARIAS 8.8 Cr ratio pistons since i figure thats a really good ratio for boosted engines. I dont have much experiance with ordering engine internals so i asked the guy as O&J about what he thinks are good and he said ARIAS have really held some high hp and lasted aswell.. So i hope these will handle the track conditions thats about to be thrown at em.

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/1379/pistonskx6.png (http://imageshack.us)

[keMz]

the truth is, i rebuilt my sohc motor cuz i had a 89 coupe..
i wanted to be different and turbo it etc etc

but il tell u now, 2years passed and for ssome reason i have a sr20det in my 240

[BigVinnie]

the truth is, i rebuilt my sohc motor cuz i had a 89 coupe..
i wanted to be different and turbo it etc etc

but il tell u now, 2years passed and for ssome reason i have a sr20det in my 240

The truth is, maybe you suck at rebuilding engines.

[BigVinnie]

(Bump)

Pistons Arrived today, i ordered the ARIAS 8.8 Cr ratio pistons since i figure thats a really good ratio for boosted engines. I dont have much experiance with ordering engine internals so i asked the guy as O&J about what he thinks are good and he said ARIAS have really held some high hp and lasted aswell.. So i hope these will handle the track conditions thats about to be thrown at em.


Whats the bore size on those pistons

[BoostSlideWayz]

Whats the bore size on those pistons

I forgot but ill get the papers it came with to tell you, lets see here.....................

3.524 is whats on the box and next to that it says "C.H. 1.340"

[BoostSlideWayz]

:BUMP: Rods and bearings came in today.

http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2559/dscn3260uz4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/7601/dscn3257uf7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[reign16]

Hey guys for my info about KA24E Performance, KA24E Motor Engine / Performance. ... but yes it is capable, but you might want to build it with forged interanls, then turbo for the power you will need. but this source i get it to an google search..



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[drifterdave]

damn dude sick, i cant wait to see it when its done. keep this thing alive as a build thread. im gonna be doing this soon, only a stock rebuild first on a extra ka24e that i bought. then im gonna pull my ka24e in my car and rebuild it with performance parts and a turbo it. im hoping i can get like 300-400hp out of it. so i can stil drive my 40 around and build a bomb motor. but i gotta finish some more stuff on my car to prepare for the motor. good luck with the build :)

[gunmetalrps]

although they used the KA in the SCCA GT3, im pretty sure nissan didnt design it to be hi-po, hence the reason they call it the truck engine. but as far as i know, the only thing that stops me from getting an SR is the fact that my KA just wont breakdown, or overheat (knock on wood). its gotten me from CA to VA round trip on cruise control and AC, along with spirited driving in the Angeles Crest Hwy from time to time. so theres no question that its reliable, just that if your gonna go the KA route, do it right.

[Edgar]

people are still bitching about this? wow

[Koopa Troopa]

Sooo, the only place i can seem to find is a site called.

O & J Performance Home Page (http://estore.websitepros.com/1636426/StoreFront.bok)

They seem to have everything i need to do this build.

I deffinatly want to cancel the MAF and go maybe... greddy emanage ??

im probly gonna need a new wirring harness because the one that i have now is given up since the weather is so cold everything is cracked and just not in good condition at all..


Greddy Emanage is worthless. I have a Motec M4 for sale at a price not too far from a Greddy Emanage. If you're serious about building this engine you'd be stupid not to buy my Motec ECU.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Greddy Emanage is worthless. I have a Motec M4 for sale at a price not too far from a Greddy Emanage. If you're serious about building this engine you'd be stupid not to buy my Motec ECU.


Mhmmm, but what if your just saying that to make a quick buck ??

lol jk nah i was just looks for opinions on what a good ECU would be to use for a drift set up.

[undesiredshoe]

Mhmmm, but what if your just saying that to make a quick buck ??

lol jk nah i was just looks for opinions on what a good ECU would be to use for a drift set up.

Ecu for a drift setup....i never knew people got different ecus for drifting. Hopefully i have the right one so I can drift....:tweak:

But seriously, chipped stanza ecu. Im going to be trying out a coil on plug setup with the chipped stanza ecu on my turboed sohc. Not to mention i can eliminate my maf and use a map sensor, tune real time, and datalog for under $100:cj:

[e1_griego]

How are you realtime tuning without a rom emulator?

I ran a u12 stanza ecu, usb consult (that might be for sale ;) ), xtronics rom emulator and used nissan datascan to run maptrace.

Definitely more than $100 for that stuff though, plus the price of the rom burner to burn a chip once a tune was more or less sorted.

[Koopa Troopa]

Mhmmm, but what if your just saying that to make a quick buck ??

lol jk nah i was just looks for opinions on what a good ECU would be to use for a drift set up.

Get the Motec and be unlimited with what you can do.

[undesiredshoe]

How are you realtime tuning without a rom emulator?

I ran a u12 stanza ecu, usb consult (that might be for sale ;) ), xtronics rom emulator and used nissan datascan to run maptrace.

Definitely more than $100 for that stuff though, plus the price of the rom burner to burn a chip once a tune was more or less sorted.

Well its not "real time" but its quick, on the fly tuning. Good enough to call realtime. I was doing that with a moates ostrich a while back but now I use a new nvsram board that I built for $30 so i didnt include the ostrich in the $100, more info on eccs.hybridka.com

So I bought my ecu for $20, chipped it for $10, built my nvsram board for $30, built my consult board for $15. I use a free software that allows maptracing, etc. So i guess its less than $100.

I tune my nvsram board using my consult board....its some awesome stuff.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Ecu for a drift setup....i never knew people got different ecus for drifting. Hopefully i have the right one so I can drift....:tweak:

But seriously, chipped stanza ecu. Im going to be trying out a coil on plug setup with the chipped stanza ecu on my turboed sohc. Not to mention i can eliminate my maf and use a map sensor, tune real time, and datalog for under $100:cj:

looks like we got some one thats not to nice here.. what i was basicly meaning was an ECU for track. by drift setup i ment the right Air/Fuel ratio, boost levels, etc.. you need to tune ecus for different track types... im sure you know this and just teaching me a lesson for my ignorance and i do thank you for your opinion.

[undesiredshoe]

I dont know about everyone else but I tune my ecu to keep my engine from blowing up and making power. Maybe ill buy a different sized turbo for drifting compared to drag racing but ecu tuning, its all the same.

What ecu are you going to use on the street then if you are looking for a track ecu?

looks like we got some one thats not to nice here.. what i was basicly meaning was an ECU for track. by drift setup i ment the right Air/Fuel ratio, boost levels, etc.. you need to tune ecus for different track types... im sure you know this and just teaching me a lesson for my ignorance and i do thank you for your opinion.

[BoostSlideWayz]

I dont know about everyone else but I tune my ecu to keep my engine from blowing up and making power. Maybe ill buy a different sized turbo for drifting compared to drag racing but ecu tuning, its all the same.

What ecu are you going to use on the street then if you are looking for a track ecu?

The car isnt going to be a street car.. no driving on the street what so ever.. im going to be using my friends car trailer and truck to get it back and forth so thats not the issue.

Im currently looking for oppinions on ECUs for track.. i was leaning towards greddy but no positive things from anyone on them.. some one mentioned Motec ? id like to see some more reviews on this ecu and find out if thats the best choice. i know it sounds stupid but one of the main reasons im looking for an upgraded ECU is to cancel the MAF. i dont wanna deal with that at all.. so i would like to get a high end ECU soon. but inputs are needed guys and i appriciate it!!

[undesiredshoe]

Ok so I guess you wont be looking for a street ecu then:ddog:. The greddy unit is a street ecu, its not a "high end" track ecu. Buy koopas motec, its a track ecu but I would be careful since you cant drive on the streets with it.

The car isnt going to be a street car.. no driving on the street what so ever.. im going to be using my friends car trailer and truck to get it back and forth so thats not the issue.

Im currently looking for oppinions on ECUs for track.. i was leaning towards greddy but no positive things from anyone on them.. some one mentioned Motec ? id like to see some more reviews on this ecu and find out if thats the best choice. i know it sounds stupid but one of the main reasons im looking for an upgraded ECU is to cancel the MAF. i dont wanna deal with that at all.. so i would like to get a high end ECU soon. but inputs are needed guys and i appriciate it!!

[BoostSlideWayz]

Ok so I guess you wont be looking for a street ecu then:ddog:. The greddy unit is a street ecu, its not a "high end" track ecu. Buy koopas motec, its a track ecu but I would be careful since you cant drive on the streets with it.

Hmm, ok... so what did his motec go to before ?? Sr,KA-D? or does it matter ?? cuz after i get the cars engine back together i plan on taking it to the dyno shop and have the car tuned.. should they know what its original tune was ???

[[email protected]]

any updates?

[ZenkiKid]

Yeah you will need the L28 oil pump. It's a high volume pump for the KA24e at a fraction of the price of a TOGA high volume pump. KA's get alot of oil starvation after 5000RPM. L28 oil pump is an excellent upgrade for your KAe..

The KA24e oil pump uses a different gear to pump the oil. The ratio on the L28 is much better. Nissan should of just continued using the L28 pump for the KAE. as you can see they are infact identical.

Part number on the KA24e pump :W0133-1620428
Part number on the L28 oil pump :W0133-1618502

pic of the KA24e oil pump.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/BigVinnie/KA24eoilpump.jpg
pic of the L28 oil pump.
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c166/BigVinnie/L28oilpump.jpg

would this work on the Kade as well?

[atom]

Not on 240 KA24DE's. I think it might work if you have a frontier KA24DE block but don't quote me on that.

[BigVinnie]

KA24de front covers have the oil pump installed into the cover.
KA24de's also use a different crank shaft that doesn't have a dizzy gear on it like the KAe crank shafts have.

[kingkilburn]

Is there a similar option for the DE?

[DeadlyZ33]

lol track ecu.

[ReDs13SiLvIa]

sexy pic of the turbo'd ka24e

[BoostSlideWayz]

sexy pic of the turbo'd ka24e


Thank you. unless your talking about another bay. theres tons on here

[chad91s13]

i used to be sr.... sure it was cool but now im ka-t and lovin it, good luck on your build, you'll enjoy what you built in the end,

[BoostSlideWayz]

i used to be sr.... sure it was cool but now im ka-t and lovin it, good luck on your build, you'll enjoy what you built in the end,

thats awesome. im anxious. im gonna have the bottom end assembled soon!

[BoostSlideWayz]

Whats up guys, i know this thread hasent been updated in forever. So.. so far ive only had the block refinished. and now i need to hone it and have the piston rings ingapped and fitted.. Im not sure if i should just have the shop grind the rings down or what.. cuz the rings are a TAD big and need to be grinded down. advice would help.. OR if anyone know any places that do a good job at this stuff plz lemme know. ive been taking the engine to a shop in santa clarita called jim grubs motorsports.

[southerncross]

good luck on this. im currently working on an NA ka24e to suffice until i can get something with a lot more displacement (i.e. V8). there is a lot of good info if you search for it. i really like seeing people go the sohc route. . . i have 3 just sitting here at the house right now, and one is going into a buddy's datsun 510 with 40mm webers pretty soon.

[brianxtrieu]

i have 170xxx miles on my ka24et lol i was wondering what you suggest to get for the motor?? im kinda new to this and if you caan give any adivces on what to get for my ka24et thatll be great:)

[BoostSlideWayz]

i have 170xxx miles on my ka24et lol i was wondering what you suggest to get for the motor?? im kinda new to this and if you caan give any adivces on what to get for my ka24et thatll be great:)

Well if its stilll running good and strong i suggest keeping it the way it is

[undesiredshoe]

Heres a sohc doing work

YouTube - Sohc 240sx drag racing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b2cNjKWfDA)

[s13silvia123]

i have 170xxx miles on my ka24et lol i was wondering what you suggest to get for the motor?? im kinda new to this and if you caan give any adivces on what to get for my ka24et thatll be great:)

if you wanna know more about KAE-T ask "undesiredshoe" he knows a bit more and knows what he is doing compare to me i'm a SR guy so ask joe about he'll give you some pointers

[skeptiks.THE.s13hero]

OK i now its a old thread and someone said this earlier but If drifting is your thing spend time on the suspension set up, brakes, and fine tuning your skills; to see what you need to upgrade for your style of drift. We have guys in our group running all kinds of motors from Srs - to Ka's.

[I LUV MY S13]

ka-t.org...im planning on doing this with my sohc

[xBtony]

wow. great thread. i have faith in my sohc now. hahah

[gilby7887]

bump wanting to see some updates

[kalypso123]

I think he's moved on to something new (he has multiple cars)

[BoostSlideWayz]

well guys.. this car seems to be a true lost hope... i couldnt afford to have the motor machined and everything so i bought another KA24E for 300 put it in along with the turbo kit and it has a bad knocking sound... unfortunatly im about out of money now.. the car is most likely gonna sit for awhile now. heres some photos on how far she got.
http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/Picture091.jpg
http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/Picture087.jpg


basicly ... this motor before i put it in i installed lightened flywheel, stage 2 clutch, 370 cc injectors. i really had my hopes up with this one but now its just going no where.

the engine that was supposed to be rebuilt with the arais pistons and eagle rods.. the pistons skirt side will not fit.. ive emailed, called the company who sold the pistons to me multiple times and they will not return any calls and never answer.. the piston ring end of the piston fits but the skirts will not.. its like there flared or somthing.. and the rings are too big and having the gapped is expensive so idk what to do about that.

AND to add ontop of that.. there was a slight leak on the seal from the waste gate to the manifold and there was black oil coming from where the leak is.. so i believe the valve guides are leaking. and supposidly the head is freshly rebuild and only has 600 miles on it and i took the valve cover off and everything in there looks bran new.. idk what is up

[BoostSlideWayz]

*bump* hey guys i have some more photos of the parts.. i need some advice on what could be wrong ? basicly the ring side of the piston fits, the skirt side wont.. now... im hoping it might just need to have the ridge cut but i havent honed the block yet and ive had these parts sitting here since i first started this thread. so im really anxious to get this stuff in. I took a photo of the piston spec sheet and i wanna know if this stuff looks right... i cant get a hold of o and j performance. they havent returned any of my calls, emails and voicemails. So i think i just have to work with what i got.
http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/spec.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/rod.jpg - eagle rods

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/piston2.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/piston.jpg

[nek nek s14]

you need to bore the block in order to make it fit.

[BoostSlideWayz]

you need to bore the block in order to make it fit.

dam i was hoping not.. cuz machine shops are soo dam expensive. the closes place said that boring would cost around like 450 and then a hole bunch of other things that need to be done before install that cost alot aswell.

[GroundPerformance]

According to your PN# Your piston Bore Size is: 89.50 and stock is 89.00 so yup you will need not just hone the block but bore it.

Motivational Purposes.. I miss this car so much I may just build another one. Setup completed Fall of last year took about 2-3 months to put together. Made about 223whp on DynoDynamics

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9663/dsc00611zgh.jpg

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9733/img0144c.jpg

[BoostSlideWayz]

According to your PN# Your piston Bore Size is: 89.50 and stock is 89.00 so yup you will need not just hone the block but bore it.

Motivational Purposes.. I miss this car so much I may just build another one. Setup completed Fall of last year took about 2-3 months to put together. Made about 223whp on DynoDynamics

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9663/dsc00611zgh.jpg

http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/9733/img0144c.jpg

wow.. that really is motivational, my build has taken 2 almost 3 years lol the car just sits.. im taking it to the machine shop to have it bored and honed then have the crank checked to see if its still good. then i will be installing the pistons maybe next weekend.. i plan on making just over that much. maybe high 200's i want it to have the internals so i have some play room with hp.. so hopfully this time the engine is ok.. i took it to the shop... and they said the rings were bad.. for some reason i never thought to check the plugs but it was like the plugs looked like they were dipped in oil lol. so that motor was a no go from the start. i guess u cant trust people these days.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Ok guys, small update. so the block is gonna be bored,honed,and piston rings fitted and crank gonna get tested to make sure its in healthy condition. im much happier about this because the original shop i was taking it to wanted about 600 dallors for that same stuff done i think maybe alittle more.. and im getting it done through a friend of a friend for 280, and hes gonna let me use his tools to install the pistons and other bottom end peices so it seems like things are happening ever since i found out this motor was bad.

[I LUV MY S13]

good news so far then ehh, keep it up man

[BoostSlideWayz]

good news so far then ehh, keep it up man

hey i think i have about 300 more dallors to spend.. and i HAVE to have a new ecu theres no way im gonna use the stock ecu for the shit thats about to be done... so is there anything you recomend? imreally wanting to some how cancel the MAf cuz its just giving me trouble

[[email protected]]

use the $300 to get your ecu chipped(e-mance?) for z32 maf, turbo, bigger injectors..etc

[BoostSlideWayz]

use the $300 to get your ecu chipped(e-mance?) for z32 maf, turbo, bigger injectors..etc

well i have it chipped for e-prom.... that cost about 150 bucks... so far... i have t3/t4 hybrid turbo, 255 lph fuel pump, 370cc injectors and a fuel pressure regulator.. so im hoping that this will all run ok when it back together

[BoostSlideWayz]

*bump* Hey guys, finally got my block back from the machine shop. this is exciting for me, the machine shop i took the block to has done quite abit of stuff and it was for so much cheaper. ive had the block bored,honed,crank balanced and the journals coatet, the pistons and rods married, and every thing is ready to install for 280 bucks. the other shop wanted to charge that amount JUST for the honing. Ive ordered today all the gaskets and seals and little things that are needed to assemble this motor and hopfully ill be able to drive this car. literally the years ive owned this car ive only driven it no more than 80 miles. so im hoping everything will turn out. I took some photos as how it sits for now. crappy 5 mp camera but this is what things are lookin like so far.

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/DSCN4982.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/DSCN4984.jpg

[R Drifter]

sounds preety promising, keep us update for sure

[BoostSlideWayz]

hey everyone... its been awhile ive got alittle more done but hasnt seemed to turn out as good as i imagined. i got everything assembled and finished.. it didnt run as good as i hoped and i have a bad oil leak.

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/l_c0cc82ca79f044b5992d4d81532fc6cb.jpg
http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/Picture218.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/Picture258.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/Picture263.jpg

YouTube - KA24E Engine Problem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93Cjfi0bFMY)

so yeah its not going smoothly as i wish but its gonna sit for alittle longer cuz im outta money and having a hard time finding a job.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Update... sorry for the late update guys its been snowing and raining for awhile and i havent had the weather to work on the car. But anyways.. I dropped the tranny, took the clutch and flywheel off. Then changed the oil seal then took a break till the next day, and got under the car about to put the flywheel on and noticed there was a hole in the back of the block and for some reason i never noticed it before when i was putting the block in. So i got out from under the car and ran to the older block and noticed theres a metal plug that looks machine pressed in there..... Its towards the right and up from the rear main oil seal.. Does anyone know what this is called ? I went on google and searched ( KA24E block oil plug) but didnt see anything that matches what im looking for. Any ideas ?

[DJ Silent]

Update... sorry for the late update guys its been snowing and raining for awhile and i havent had the weather to work on the car. But anyways.. I dropped the tranny, took the clutch and flywheel off. Then changed the oil seal then took a break till the next day, and got under the car about to put the flywheel on and noticed there was a hole in the back of the block and for some reason i never noticed it before when i was putting the block in. So i got out from under the car and ran to the older block and noticed theres a metal plug that looks machine pressed in there..... Its towards the right and up from the rear main oil seal.. Does anyone know what this is called ? I went on google and searched ( KA24E block oil plug) but didnt see anything that matches what im looking for. Any ideas ?


It's a freeze plug

[BoostSlideWayz]

Nah i already replaced all freeze plugs when i first rebuilt the motor. I looked online its a block dowel plug . Napa, the local auto shop says they dont even supply those.

http://www.nissanpartszone.com/components/1991-nissan-axxess_cylinder-block-oil-pan-110-1203.html

11010D

or it might be 11021A

[slow40sx]

240 hatch single cam turbo with a s15 front...:goyou:...

[BoostSlideWayz]

240 hatch single cam turbo with a s15 front...:goyou:...

Its a coupe btw.

[driftn_silvia]

Nah i already replaced all freeze plugs when i first rebuilt the motor. I looked online its a block dowel plug . Napa, the local auto shop says they dont even supply those.

1991 Nissan Axxess Cylinder Block & Oil Pan - 1101203 (http://www.nissanpartszone.com/components/1991-nissan-axxess_cylinder-block-oil-pan-110-1203.html)

11010D

or it might be 11021A

did you check like kragen oriely?...or any other auto store?

its possible you're gonna have to get it through nissan.

[shift_240]

heres a shot of my ka24et but not as clean as yours still need to take vacc lines off n clean up my engine but runs great. enjoy

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e127/tuelegitflip/Photo0201.jpg

[jeremy242]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs903.snc4/71637_10100100582653402_5134028_53519335_342330_n. jpg

Inspiration to get yours finished. I am not an expert but if you need any help you can pm me.

[soreballz]

^ All that work and no fan shroud? You're gonna kill that motor.

[BoostSlideWayz]

Thanks guys you got some nice setups.

To: driftn_silvia- i actually only have one local auto shop, other than that nissan and any other shops are over 30 miles away. I found a bolt that was alittle to thick and grinded it down and make my own dowel. and i dont think its ever gonna leak now. At the moment im waiting for my cuz to help me get the tranny back up into the car and pour some fresh oil in it and turn it over. lol this will be the 3rd set of oil in the car and it hasn't even been driven yet lol.. that dam hole..

[KansaiDrifter]

yeah get that oil leak fixed and let it run. It needs to seat before it's going to run properly, I did a ka-t rebuild with arias pistons, eagle rods, same 89.5 bore, ran like garbage when first started, got it warm, let it cool, run it again, let it cool. It takes a few times before it'll seat the rings properly. If it doesn't improve after that then there's something else up. Also, run base crap oil, do not run anything synthetic or even half synthetic, those oils will not let the rings and bearings seat properly. Each engine builder will tell you different but average is around 700miles of break in oil before changing to good oil. Change the filter halfway and top off for safety.

[BoostSlideWayz]

yeah get that oil leak fixed and let it run. It needs to seat before it's going to run properly, I did a ka-t rebuild with arias pistons, eagle rods, same 89.5 bore, ran like garbage when first started, got it warm, let it cool, run it again, let it cool. It takes a few times before it'll seat the rings properly. If it doesn't improve after that then there's something else up. Also, run base crap oil, do not run anything synthetic or even half synthetic, those oils will not let the rings and bearings seat properly. Each engine builder will tell you different but average is around 700miles of break in oil before changing to good oil. Change the filter halfway and top off for safety.

Thanks for the heads up! Ive been collecting the oil filters and have like 3 sitting in my room. Ive never broken in an engine before so when i went to napa i go the cheapest oil because i know ima be changing it very often till its all broken in. so i asked them what is a good weight to break in an engine.. and they said 30 weight. not 5w 30 not 10w 30 just 30 weight. so i bought that..

It was only 3 dollars a quart so i was glad about that. Im going to fill it with the oil today .. let it soak for awhile.. ive seen on some of those auto shows about zmax and when they did that demo about how it works i really considered getting it but idk. what do you think ? waste of money ?

[jeremy242]

^ All that work and no fan shroud? You're gonna kill that motor.

I have dual 12inch electric fans pushing from the front as well, the fan is there to push some of the heat from under the hood.

Where that may be true about seating the rings, i have built two ka24e's one na and one turbo that have run perfectly on initial start up. Did you make sure to properly rotate the rings when you installed them so that the gaps are at least 60 degrees apart?

[BoostSlideWayz]

if i get some pushing fans on the rade and maybe even pulling fans on the intercooler.. would i have maybe enough room to make a duct to direct all that hot air ? the hood has the vents ontop but i dont wanna make the intercooler all flush with the engine bay i dont have fabrication skills. i was thinking about just buying sheet metal, bending it right and riviting it. but idk if i should even try it or not.

*EDIT* just was looking around down in there and i dont think theres anyway to make a duct. the radiator is so thick there already isnt much room between it and the engine. Only way to do that would be tilt the radiator back on the bottom half i believe. i hope someday ill be able to do that type of setup. i always loved the whole thing where they have the intercooler flush and rad tilted back. i think its very very efficient compared to the stock style.

[surge s14]

ive noticed that sohc last longer then dohc haha

i say do it

[S-Nation S13]

built not bought no homo but i get all happy in the pants to see ka-t's i feel theres more work that has to be done on a motor that was intended to be NA, sure seeing a sr in a 240 is cool, but seeing ka-t now thats uber cool especially sohc hehe props on dedication and thinking outside the box. cause we all know most individuals will ditch the sohc for dohc..

[EhrikETFG]

Is there any real reason to not use sohc vs. dohc? Is it miles, or the block,etc?

[Nick_04K]

^ Real reason? No. The only reason i would ditch sohc for dohc is if i didnt plan on refreshing the sohc and it was "Heavily used" haha! Most Kae-t builds ive seen yield good results...And i see no reason why they wouldnt last as long as any other engine put to the same abuses. That is if it was put together and tuned correctly.

[ZeeRasta]

built not bought no homo but i get all happy in the pants to see ka-t's i feel theres more work that has to be done on a motor that was intended to be NA, sure seeing a sr in a 240 is cool, but seeing ka-t now thats uber cool especially sohc hehe props on dedication and thinking outside the box. cause we all know most individuals will ditch the sohc for dohc..

I agree with all of what's said.

[BoostSlideWayz]

built not bought no homo but i get all happy in the pants to see ka-t's i feel theres more work that has to be done on a motor that was intended to be NA, sure seeing a sr in a 240 is cool, but seeing ka-t now thats uber cool especially sohc hehe props on dedication and thinking outside the box. cause we all know most individuals will ditch the sohc for dohc..

Thanks, ive always had a taste for this engine ever since i bought the car.. when i would study on the car i noticed everyone was doing sr swaps but i was mainly focused on my engine. When i first drove it N-A i noticed it was pretty slow.. but i could feel it was a tough motor. Im happy wit my decision. some think its stupid but we all have our own tastes.

Is there any real reason to not use sohc vs. dohc? Is it miles, or the block,etc?

In my opinion its personal preference, i think sohc does have a lot of potential. But dohc simply have more potential, the head flow can allow for using bigger turbos with out having tremendous amounts of lag. N-A route i don't think sohc is the way to go they just feel gutless.

^ Real reason? No. The only reason i would ditch sohc for dohc is if i didnt plan on refreshing the sohc and it was "Heavily used" haha! Most Kae-t builds ive seen yield good results...And i see no reason why they wouldnt last as long as any other engine put to the same abuses. That is if it was put together and tuned correctly.

^ well said.

[S-Nation S13]

lol remember..its your car bro, so whatever you do it people either gonna hate it or love it, if they hate its coo, lol i always say if you want to hate, then give me money so i can do something you like hehe, if not then keep hatin cause imma do what i like, btw what you numbers are you shooting for hp wise, torque wise? ive read alot on tuning sohc's but most of them were into draggin but the numbers were pretty impressive.

[BoostSlideWayz]

lol remember..its your car bro, so whatever you do it people either gonna hate it or love it, if they hate its coo, lol i always say if you want to hate, then give me money so i can do something you like hehe, if not then keep hatin cause imma do what i like, btw what you numbers are you shooting for hp wise, torque wise? ive read alot on tuning sohc's but most of them were into draggin but the numbers were pretty impressive.


Agreed

Well when i was ordering the parts i first asked what there rated at. They said they have rated my pistons and rods at around 500 hp. I know i definitely dont want that much. I was hoping maybe around high 200's maybe even get to 300. My injectors are venom 370 cc so from what ive heard thats around my HP goal. I have a 255 lph fuel pump to supply the fuel. And i was actually considering running VP. I remember running that stuff in my dirt bike and wow it made a difference lol, and it smells absolutely amazing. Torque wise i truely am not sure what to expect.

[Nick_04K]

Im sorry to say BoostSlideWayz, but those 370's arent going to net you the high 200's or low 300's you want. I would recommend at least 550's if that's your goals. But if your looking for injectors on the cheap i think Rx7s have 450cc (???) ones you can use. And if not STI injectors are cheap 550cc ones. There is some in the classifieds right now just fyi.

[chiboy002]

so, when it comes to boosting/building sohc > dohc?

i'm looking for mild numbers like 260-270~ max

[BoostSlideWayz]

Im sorry to say BoostSlideWayz, but those 370's arent going to net you the high 200's or low 300's you want. I would recommend at least 550's if that's your goals. But if your looking for injectors on the cheap i think Rx7s have 450cc (???) ones you can use. And if not STI injectors are cheap 550cc ones. There is some in the classifieds right now just fyi.

I tried Rx7 injectors once on that thing, before i build the motor and there low impedance witch means you have to have sometime of amplifier to make them work. When i put them in there last time the engine wouldnt even start because i didnt have that amplifier or what ever it was.

From What i read there rated around 260 hp max. Witch is fine with me for now. Even the stock injectors and stock motor last time when i first drove it was satisfying to me. So im sure mid 200's will definitely make me happy for now.

These might be my next set of injectors. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DeatschWerks-450cc-Fuel-Injectors-240SX-KA24E-SOHC-/360324671312?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53e5062750#ht_4131wt_939

[jeremy242]

mazda has some high and some low imp injectors. I am running mazda 550 high imp s5 injectors, direct drop in but you need the oval plugs.

[e1_griego]

I ran 460s in my sohc-t from an rx7. Plug and play, no resistors or anything. They were the square-plug version, just have to take a razor blade and cut the little plastic key off since it's offset differently than the sohc plug.

[BoostSlideWayz]

*UPDATE* Not the best news lol. Started the car.... doesn't idle but revs nice and quick.. Does run rich but i don't have an SAFC at the moment. So today i took it around the block for the first time and it pulled pretty hard. But since its running rich i know its not going as strong as it could. I then pulled it in thinking it was my timing but got my timing light and its spot on. so Now im messing with the fuel pressure regulator till i can feel it rev out clean. But then i noticed oil pressure started to drop. So outta no where my mom is like ( is it still leaking ? ) and i look under the car and alot of oil was poured out... It was kind of fast dripping, So I figure my plug idea did not work. The car seems to be running but now that oil leak is my main problem once again.

*EDIT* another update guys... filled it with more oil and drove it around the block again ... kept my foot on the gas ust a little to keep it running and had my cuz look for a leak and he couldnt find anything... so i looked under the car again and noticed it was dripping from the same spot as it did before... It turns out the turbo oil feed line is bad. Awhile ago it arched on the starters positive bolt but it didnt look damaged so i just wrapped that area in electric tape.. So i looked and saw oil dripping from the tape.. and when it started it would leak faster. So im going to order that monday. and i really need to get a better boost controller. I have this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Universal-Tubro-Boost-Controller-BK-240SX-GTR-Supra-MR2-/250740366498?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3a614a5ca2 lol so right now i had it running on the waste gate. So ill be getting something better.

Also, When i originally got the turbo kit from cx racing i remember calling them and telling them about the top nipple not fitting on cuz the shock tower in the way. they said you only need the side one on. Is this true ?

thanks guys

[BoostSlideWayz]

heres a shot of my ka24et but not as clean as yours still need to take vacc lines off n clean up my engine but runs great. enjoy


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e127/tuelegitflip/Photo0201.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs903.snc4/71637_10100100582653402_5134028_53519335_342330_n. jpg

Inspiration to get yours finished. I am not an expert but if you need any help you can pm me.

Ive got some questions for you guys and others ... I noticed you guys have some type of sensor before the MAF ? i noticed before my maf i have nothing in there... i do have 2 wires that are just out in the open around where that would go.. what is it ? i think it may be why my car is running rough.

This may give you an idea of what im talking about.. When i purchased my turbo kit it came with a cold air intake pipe.. This pipe bolts on after the maf and then goes down basically behind the front bumper. I never put it on because ive never wanted cold air intake. But i always noticed this hole for something that screws in.

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/DSCN5967.jpg I would imagine what ever it is that goes into here must have some sort of relation to air fuel ratio ? My car runs rich really fast so i do believe im going to need to get safc and get this things a/f correctly tuned.

and a pic of what connects into it but idk what exactly it is.. http://s1.promotionsupplies.com/ebay/etdmotors/images/intercooler_kit/ETDAU-Kit-S13-KA24E+IC0048-275-2.jpg

*EDIT* ok guys ordered SAFC II basically comes slightly used but comes with the paper work and original box and the screen protective film still on the screen. so when that comes in ill let you know. I am slightly intimidated by wiring, and hoping i do it right. Im hoping the ECU's are generally universal when it tells you witch wire goes to what color.

so hope everyone has a merry christmas!

*Edit again* Ok christmas present came in today

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/Picture006.jpg

http://i590.photobucket.com/albums/ss342/CustomGundam/Picture004.jpg

Wow.. it really looked bran new besides a few wear marks on the box... the unit it self is perfect and the mounting hardware that comes with it is untouched... everything looks as if it wasn't even messed with... the wires aren't even messed with... 280 bucks for everything ... usually for this you would be like 399 or something .. and the paper work doesnt look like its been opened up.

Im happy =3

[BoostSlideWayz]

Ok guys, wired my safc in got it running. But i'm scared to drive it because on cold start up it purrs but when it gets warm it drops straight down to lean and i don't wanna put a load on the car when its all the way lean. I'm assuming is my timing because i've messed with the settings on the safc and it doesn't even slightly move it from lean. So i'm guessing my timing is maybe really off or something. then i had my cousin turn the distributor slightly retard and it wouldn't hold idle but it started to move the needle just a hair back towards optimal. Any ideas guys ? or do i just need a professional tuner ?

Maybe i just really need to get that z32 maf.....:duh:

[koenig]

keep going! so much win if you see this through!

I am currently building up my single slammer, sure its the underdog, but thats what makes it so satisfying to see it win!

[towlie]

I've never seen a single cam win.

[JaeTea]

I've never seen a single cam win.

QFT...I know..I own one.

[koenig]

QFT...I know..I own one.

Quit fucking trolling?

[Imarvin240]

Quit fucking trolling?

i think its "quit fu#$ing talking"?

[zooopreme]

qft = quoted for truth...

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[JaeTea]

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qft...:picardfp: :picardfp: :picardfp: :picardfp: :picardfp: :picardfp:

[ChriztianzenRkd]

Hi guys, its my 1st time in my life wrting an american webpage cuz im from Peru-Lima. I've recently bought a KA24e and im making the swap for my car that is and Opel Rekord Coupe 1969. I just wanna know what kind of perfomance can i do to ka24e?( no disassembling ). I've already fixed it, had some problems with it. I hope to be received here at this webpage, Regards from Peru! soon i will upload pics.......

[BoostSlideWayz]

I have some updates on the s13 !

I know its been awhile and i havent had any updates for quite some time.

Ive installed an Innovate wideband MTX-L into the car and figured out some more issues and addressed them. The car is drive able how ever its still running pretty rich right now. But i think i just need to make some more adjustments on the SAFC II and ill get it running better.. untill then this is the current condition of how the car drives.

Its idling at about 10.5 11 A/F and about 13-14 around there when under load. and im running about 13-15 psi range comfortably with out experiencing any fuel cut.

S13 KA First Real Drive. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UvroODCnF0)

The mic on my camera has a very low quality at a certain DB level so it sounds staticy when close.. so its not running as good as id like but when its under load it actually drives nice and has alot of torque and very fun.. just no good when i let off the gas and come to idle again..

Also in this video the distributor bolt wasnt tighten so it was slowly twisting to the retarded position more and more as i was driving so it was running worse in this video than it did before we recorded it.

***NOTE*** The driving in this video was NOT illegal at all as these are private roads i live on.

[shift_240]

looks good man. what settings do you have on your safc?

[BoostSlideWayz]

looks good man. what settings do you have on your safc?

Im actually constantly having to adjust things on it so its rarely ever the same.

However mainly i noticed the settings that make the largest difference are the "dec.air " settings. Mine right now i believe are Ne1 is about 3.5 Ne2 is like 4 or something. The funny thing is i was actually messing with it today. I just have a very forgetful mind.

For the most part the car under load is fun to drive, but i always spend more time on just getting the idle to be decent and have a not so rich setting.

This video was the other day. I was happy with it, but it was still technically too rich. So i was messing with more stuff today and it was more rough at idle since ive made those adjustments.

Anyways heres how it was running the other day. KA24E-T Start Up - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVuRNpMAdJY)

[BoostSlideWayz]

So i discovered the whole problem just this week, since my last update I've not been working on the car.

The other day i started the car up and the usual screwy af ratio not being stable problem. I pin pointed that my maf was the main problem. Back when i first bought the car it had a DOHC MAF on it and i had purchased a SOHC maf along with the connector. Forsome reason the connector at the time had two ground wires which i assumed one of them was for the chassis ground.

All this time i just thought it was supposed to be that way, and after about a year of going to school for electrical engineering and getting an idea of how electronics work i brainstormed and decided to take the connector off and the shielding around it and noticed the second black wire was not oem. someone had actually put the black wire on the middle pin.

This was causing the maf to read 100 % airflow at all times, even at idle which inturn was causing the ecu to dump as much fuel as possible. After rewiring the connector, its no longer reading 100% air flow at idle. More like 4.5 or so, and the af ratio fluctuates between 14.00 and 15.00 at idle which isnt bad considering what i used to have to deal with back in the day. It would run rich in the 11.00 and 10.00 area no matter how much i tried to adjust. Now that the maf is correctly sending info the car runs ALOT better.

Now its officially just a matter of making the small adjustments to make it run better. With my limited engine management i dont have a broad capability of tuning but i definitely have a better tune already.

Soon as i can get the file of the video i recorded of it running ill post it. At this time right now for some reason my computer is not syncing with my phone to transfer the video.

[juvi22003]

Love your build....not trying to copy your style but i also have a ka24de that im planning to boost in a couple months. I already started a list of what i would need but i'm wondering if you could PM a list since you the expert and got more experience.

[BoostSlideWayz]

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[BoostSlideWayz]

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I know this thread is dead but i uploaded this today even though this was a couple months ago. Doesn't run the greatest but a hell of alot better than awhile ago. Just going to pretty much leave it as is. Regardless of how much everyone seems to hate the safc II. Just have to adjust it once and awhile till your dialed in for the day.