What does it take to get 18k or more for a swap 240sx!!!

[RUTH'LESSDET]

As you all know selling a 240sx is a very common thing nowadays but are the 240sx worth the $$$$ dollars we want for them???(Of course they are) Is there a prerequisite or should there be some for cars that are selling for more than 18K?
I started this thread because I posted a comment in sick13's (http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/229596-95-240sx-w-jdm-kouki-conversion-brand-new-fully-built-drift-car.html#post2522218) for sale thread and I think he caught feelings because I said his car was sick but i felt he should include interior when he was selling his car (even though it was a full caged car)
And I also felt that a converted kouki was a negative:
-If you selling a car for 18k for above should you try to include as much things as possible?
-Should a 95-96 converted kouki be worth more than a 97-98 original kouki?
-Does having a newer motor help?
-Does having a bigger motor help? (i.e RB26, 1JZ, 2JZ, LS1,2,3,6,7)
-Does having an older motor like SR20, RB20 hurt or help you and why?
-Does swap difficulty increase the value?
-Does suspension, and aero play a big factor?
You dont have to conform to these questions but basically explain why you think a car is worth 18k add example if you want!!
PLEASE START YOUR REPLY BY SAYING" IN MY OPINION or IMO"

[sillyvia13]

Ionno,
I was gonna say no 240 is worth 18k or 20k. but I was thinking If it was a tube chassis FULLY built race car maybe... but that car sicks13 is not a built car. motors not broken in, could fail! not saying it will but shit happens, ionno, its a bolt on car, no fab work engine bay has wires and vac lines all over the place. nice car, but not 18k nice.

You can build these car cheap. and resell big. but only hurts the scene, I would buy shit boxes. $400 and make oem specs again and sell for cost of parts plaus time at $100 a hour. I;'d still make $500 ish for playing on cars I love.

That car is worth IMO. $10k tops. its a show car.
I would rather a proven race car. myself. Or a shit box hack job. but not a show car. NEVER THAT. lol.

caveman has spoken

[RUTH'LESSDET]

I will start:
http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/229628-1996-240sx-2jz-swapped-700whp.html
IMO!!!! this car is worth more than 20k because:
sick ass motor swap, claimed horsepower, swap difficulty, clean swap, clean interior (full), rims.....this one is self explanatory in all the car was taste fully done!

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Ionno,
I was gonna say no 240 is worth 18k or 20k. but I was thinking If it was a tube chassis FULLY built race car maybe... but that car sicks13 is not a built car. motors not broken in, could fail! not saying it will but shit happens, ionno, its a bolt on car, no fab work engine bay has wires and vac lines all over the place. nice car, but not 18k nice.

You can build these car cheap. and resell big. but only hurts the scene, I would buy shit boxes. $400 and make oem specs again and sell for cost of parts plaus time at $100 a hour. I;'d still make $500 ish for playing on cars I love.

That car is worth IMO. $10k tops. its a show car.
I would rather a proven race car. myself. Or a shit box hack job. but not a show car. NEVER THAT. lol.

caveman has spoken

WOw interesting. I think there are a few 240sx out there that are worth more than 18k but those are the SICK SICK swaps and mint bodies, and you tell as soon as you them.

[chibo]

IMO, no 240sx short of a collectible Nismo or otherwise is worth anything more than 10k to me. Too many new cars in that range. These damn things are old, I'm only driving one because I am a broke-ass.

[Phlip]

$18k, in my opinion is a pipe dream, born of the "drift tax" that kinda started to die when the economy started to go to shit and people stopped spending money.
I cannot think of what I could name on a 240SX to make it worth 18 grand at this particular point, especially considering what can be BUILT with that same 18.

[CrimsonRockett]

IMO, no 240sx short of a collectible Nismo or otherwise is worth anything more than 10k to me. Too many new cars in that range. These damn things are old, I'm only driving one because I am a broke-ass.

+1.

Sure, buying a car in that price range *can* save you thousands of dollars (10k car with 20k in parts type of deal), but most people would rather build their own cars at that point.

I wouldn't be able to just unload 10k and be happy driving a pre-built car.

Most I would personally spend would be 8-10k. Anything above that, I'd just buy an 04+ car.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

IMO, no 240sx short of a collectible Nismo or otherwise is worth anything more than 10k to me. Too many new cars in that range. These damn things are old, I'm only driving one because I am a broke-ass.
lol thats funny

$18k, in my opinion is a pipe dream, born of the "drift tax" that kinda started to die when the economy started to go to shit and people stopped spending money.
I cannot think of what I could name on a 240SX to make it worth 18 grand at this particular point, especially considering what can be BUILT with that same 18.
this is a damn true statement
+1.

Sure, buying a car in that price range *can* save you thousands of dollars (10k car with 20k in parts type of deal), but most people would rather build their own cars at that point.

I wouldn't be able to just unload 10k and be happy driving a pre-built car.

Most I would personally spend would be 8-10k. Anything above that, I'd just buy an 04+ car.
Some dummies im mean people just have money laying around and buy swapped cars like the ones were are talking about and cars that are worst. I know a guy that f*cking live here in NY the drove to cali and then paid 18k for a 95 convert with stock rb25, with stock brakes, bullshit aero, not cage, untuned, bullsh^t coilovers, no guages, etc. But thinks he has the hottest car in the world. Its so funny because he could have built a way better car for what he paid but he knows nothing about car period so he had no choice but to buy that dog sh*T!!!

[C. Anderson]

As far as the car beaing a kouki converted 95 model I would prefer it. The chassis wiring is more simple due to it being obd1. I also don't care if it is "real" or not as long as it is done correctly. I don't think the car is worth $20k though. I would say around $12k.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

As far as the car beaing a kouki converted 95 model I would prefer it. The chassis wiring is more simple due to it being obd1. I also don't care if it is "real" or not as long as it is done correctly. I don't think the car is worth $20k though. I would say around $12k.
This thread is not an attack on sick13. Its about everybody. I dont wanna single out sick13 in this because his car is SICK IMO like I stated b4. I just wanna see what it would take for a person to get more than 18k for a 10+ year old car!!!! aLso feel free to go to the for sale side and post an example!!!!
PLEASE START YOUR REPLY BY SAYING" IN MY OPINION or IMO"

[sillyvia13]

WOw interesting. I think there are a few 240sx out there that are worth more than 18k but those are the SICK SICK swaps and mint bodies, and you tell as soon as you them.

ok you win.
HOLY SHIT!


Thats worth the money.
thats got bad ass in its stance...lol

the other car not so much.
lol

[RUTH'LESSDET]

ok you win.
HOLY SHIT!


Thats worth the money.
thats got bad ass in its stance...lol

the other car not so much.
lol
now you see what im getting at. There are a few cars out there that are worth the money but how can you tell... this car (http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/229628-1996-240sx-2jz-swapped-700whp.html) i think is worth every dime so what he has cheap prosport gauges...its tastefully done!!!, with this car as soon as you see it you can tell its worth some paper!!! He should add some video i.e dyno video, engine running, driving etc. to his thread to show the car in action.

[shinhed]

I'm not sure what S-chassis is worth 18k but, I'm sure it's not a Zenki S14.
yuck!

[VQMaxFan]

Honestly IMHO, it would have to be a mint car with less than 50k on it.

Well for me to pay 18k for a 240.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

I'm not sure what S-chassis is worth 18k but, I'm sure it's not a Zenki S14.
yuck!

how about that 700hp zenki i just posted!!!! that shit is worth it im sorry

[VQMaxFan]

now you see what im getting at. There are a few cars out there that are worth the money but how can you tell... this car (http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/229628-1996-240sx-2jz-swapped-700whp.html) i think is worth every dime so what he has cheap prosport gauges...its tastefully done!!!, with this car as soon as you see it you can tell its worth some paper!!! He should add some video i.e dyno video, engine running, driving etc. to his thread to show the car in action.

There are vids of the s13 he pulled the 2jz from, atleast i think thats what he did, i know he sold the s13 shell that had the 2jz in it. That car rolled out hard.

[ZenkiKid]

i would say everything new/rebuilt/restored all the way up to the gaskets, but then again who would go to that extent

[Teknolust72]

This is worth AT LEAST 18K.....

http://www.weld-jp.com/2007gallery/07_auto_crave/07_autocrave_pomona%20(3).jpg

In my opinion, if you really want to fetch that kind of price, your car needs to be perfect and beyond a normal tuned 240sx. It would need to have major attention to detail, and be a solidly built vehicle.

[Zen S14]

I would not pay 20k for any 240sx out there regardless of the amount of work done on it. No modified car will be without issues. These cars are not collectables and somebody else's modified mess isn't going to be worth 20k to me.

Reality is these cars are cheap and old cars with a large aftermarket support. The aftermarket support makes modifying one to decent power possible but certainly does not make the car any more valuable.

[chibo]

now you see what im getting at. There are a few cars out there that are worth the money but how can you tell... this car (http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/229628-1996-240sx-2jz-swapped-700whp.html) i think is worth every dime so what he has cheap prosport gauges...its tastefully done!!!, with this car as soon as you see it you can tell its worth some paper!!! He should add some video i.e dyno video, engine running, driving etc. to his thread to show the car in action.The question is.. if he cheaped on gauges, where else did he cheap out?

[RUTH'LESSDET]

This is worth AT LEAST 18K.....

http://www.weld-jp.com/2007gallery/07_auto_crave/07_autocrave_pomona%20(3).jpg

In my opinion, if you really want to fetch that kind of price, your car needs to be perfect and beyond a normal tuned 240sx. It would need to have major attention to detail, and be a solidly built vehicle.
I agree but IMO I find it hard to pay 18k for cars with no interior its cool but sometimes I just hate it. I see alot of magazine cars with no interior now too quote on quote race cars but I think its just a cheaper way out!!

[shinhed]

how about that 700hp zenki i just posted!!!! that shit is worth it im sorry

Nope, sorry.
The paint's gotta be immaculate with new oem shit, spotless glass, trim, interior...

I'd pay 18k if it looked like this...
http://www.timammons.com/Photos/240SX/240_15.JPG
http://www.timammons.com/Photos/240SX/240_20.JPG

[ixfxi]

Attention to detail is worth quite a lot, depending on who your buyers are.

To me, my car is worth around 30k.. and I have the receipts to prove it. But if you're the type of 240 owner who's okay with mix-matched wheels/tires and body panels that are zip-tied out, then obviously you're not the type of person who would have 10k, let alone 20k. If you did, you probably wouldnt own a 240SX.

[VQMaxFan]

Nope, sorry.
The paint's gotta be immaculate with new oem shit, spotless glass, trim, interior...

I'd pay 18k if it looked like this...

That car was immaculate, the swap was a little messy but they put that car back together in like 24hrs just before that show.

[ESmorz]

No s-chassis is worth 18k.

The only fun of these cars is building them. If you buy one for that much with all the work done for you, you're a trick. If you plan on investing that much in a car, do it for yourself not so you can sell it to some fanboy with deep pockets.

http://violentrunning.squidd.org/phpbb/images/smilies/ghey.gif

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Nope, sorry.
The paint's gotta be immaculate with new oem shit, spotless glass, trim, interior...

I'd pay 18k if it looked like this...
http://www.timammons.com/Photos/240SX/240_15.JPG
http://www.timammons.com/Photos/240SX/240_20.JPG
OMG that blue car is sick...It has that "love at first sight appeal" to it!!
In his defense he stated "The car was completely taken apart and painted with a satin red urethane paint." Doesn't the satin paint have a "flat" look??
If not then the car isn't worth 24k maybe 19k lol!!!! shit is still hot

[Teknolust72]

[QUOTE=shinhed;2522379]Nope, sorry.
The paint's gotta be immaculate with new oem shit, spotless glass, trim, interior...

I'd pay 18k if it looked like this...
http://www.timammons.com/Photos/240SX/240_15.JPG
[QUOTE]

I would say 18K for that is not worth it. But then again, I'm used to seeing STREET cars look this good in Japan, and they fetch maybe 14K at the most!!

But to me, sick13's car is not worth 18K because he has a crapload of Megan Racing suspension components, which devalues it to me. PLUS it really makes me doubt the quality of the overall build, since the builder has chosen to use mediocre parts for components that are very important.

But then again, I havent seen the car in person, so I really cant put a price on it.....

[blownmotor]

A pristine 2002 Silvia Spec R is worth 18K not any 89' to 98 S-chassis is worth it. These are very sought after but it doesn't command such a high resale price and it's not a classic.

[Def]

i would say everything new/rebuilt/restored all the way up to the gaskets, but then again who would go to that extent

Eh, my car isn't that far from that. Just been tinkering with it and fixing little stuff over the past 4.5 years, and putting on only a few thousand miles a year - run out of problems to fix fast. It only takes one or two track weekends spent fixing stupid stuff while driving your car hard to get the motivation to spend the money and time to do *EVERYTHING* right.

I don't think it'd sell for anywhere near $18k though.. haha

[RUTH'LESSDET]

No s-chassis is worth 18k.

The only fun of these cars is building them. If you buy one for that much with all the work done for you, you're a trick. If you plan on investing that much in a car, do it for yourself not so you can sell it to some fanboy with deep pockets.

http://violentrunning.squidd.org/phpbb/images/smilies/ghey.gif
IMO i dont agree becuase not everybody has the knowledge or resources to build a car. I also wouldn't call a person like that a trick unless they have no idea of wtf they are buying and are just a complete dumb ass...lol

[VQMaxFan]

I would say 18K for that is not worth it. But then again, I'm used to seeing STREET cars look this good in Japan, and they fetch maybe 14K at the most!!

But to me, sick13's car is not worth 18K because he has a crapload of Megan Racing suspension components, which devalues it to me. PLUS it really makes me doubt the quality of the overall build, since the builder has chosen to use mediocre parts for components that are very important.

But then again, I havent seen the car in person, so I really cant put a price on it.....

Would you say the blue car was worth 18k added the fact it has an LS1/T56?

[chibo]

Would you say the blue car was worth 18k added the fact it has an LS1/T56?
18k will put you into FD RX7 LS1 territory. Better looking car, rarer car, and so on. 18k will buy you a lot now adays - S2000, Evo, STi, WRX, IS300, 350z, G35, Legacy GT, MCoupe, early NSX, C5 ZO6 (possibly.) etc.

[s14kouki44]

a car is only worth as much someone will pay for it...so 240's aren't worth more than $12k or so for the nicest one because no 240 fan has $20k to buy one with. maybe in 40 years these cars will be chevelle/GTO/mustang status but who knows

[Teknolust72]

Would you say the blue car was worth 18k added the fact it has an LS1/T56?


bleh....LS1 doesnt turn me on...

And I think its kind of disrespectful to an S-chassis to put in a non-Nissan engine.

[ESmorz]

IMO i dont agree becuase not everybody has the knowledge or resources to build a car. I also wouldn't call a person like that a trick unless they have no idea of wtf they are buying and are just a complete dumb ass...lol

If you have the resources to buy a car like that, you can very easily buy a few books and get to some learnin. Ya hear?


:doh:

bleh....LS1 doesnt turn me on...

And I think its kind of disrespectful to an S-chassis to put in a non-Nissan engine.

Why? Nissan gave you and every other American the shaft with the S-Chassis. Fuck them.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

EBAY LINK (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissan-240SX-S14-Silvia-SR20DET-Drift-Show-Quality-LS1-CORVETTE_W0QQitemZ200289468523QQcmdZViewItemQQptZU S_Cars_Trucks?hash=item200289468523&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A3|39%3A1|240%3A1318)
This guy has been trying to sell this car forever but he is listing the car as a 2006 pontiac ls1 with corvette valve covers!!!!:bash:
http://www.use.com/media/2008/0514/48501/p_001.jpg
http://www.use.com/media/2008/0514/48501/p_038.jpg
Thats bullshit because in 06 there was no ls1 in a gto it was an ls2 and that aint no damn ls2....you can tell by the TB and the PS res, the fuel rail etc.
This guy must have bump his god damn head 35k buy it now!! are you kinding me he does even have the right hood

[chibo]

Jesus, that cage has horrible filament.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

If you have the resources to buy a car like that, you can very easily buy a few books and get to some learnin. Ya hear?

Sorry when i said resource i didnt mean money I meant, people around you with know how, friends that are mechanics, welders etc.

[boost_addict]

its worth that much but no one aint gon pay that much for a nissan.. LOL

[ESmorz]

Sorry when i said resource i didnt mean money I meant, people around you with know how, friends that are mechanics, welders etc.

It's fine to pay someone to weld for you. I am by no means a fabricator, but I have no quams pulling everything apart and rebuilding as long as I have the time. However, I would like to learn how to weld and paint better.

How can you have any pride driving a car that you had no hand in building except signing your name on the check?

[5150Fab]

After so many mods a car really isnt what it started out to be. 30k+ in mods, its hardly nissan still. So yea i can see a 240 for 15+ thousand. It would have to be a full on race chassis with just about every bell and whistle. If someone had 50k in a 240 chassis and you offered them 10, they might laugh at you. People also have to account for the labor hours that go into cirtain cars too, some people dont have the resources to completley fab up a race car, so they have a shit load of fab hours in the car, most fab shops are about 100/hour so....account for that too.

honestly, if you have the money to be looking at 15k 240's than whats the problem. the person that built the car had all the headachs and heartachs. That is worth 5k alone on a built chassis Lol. If you ever built a car you know exactly what i mean.

Its the money and work into the car, not the car that sets the price.

Thats just my take on it...idunno

But yea i know where your coming from, i see 240's with rb20's and shitty coilovers out here that go for like 8K. People have no clue and think, "oh skyline motor" sure heres 8gs for a car that is really worth 2, just because of the shitty 1000 dollar motor. so yea some people are CRAZY. People pay so whatever, my hat is off to the guy that just made 6000 for putting a 1000 dollar motor in the car, buyers fault.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Would you say the blue car was worth 18k added the fact it has an LS1/T56?
wow really!! well you know im gonna be bias alittle right now when is comes to lsx swaps because(I have one) they are typically 00 motors and newer compaired to they commonly swap motors like sr20's and rb's. So yeah that would IMO warrant a 18k price tag and if not 18k something around 16k if he had an ls1....if he had an ls2,3,or 7(expensive) then yes 18k or more.....
also please post a pic if you have one of that motor its gotta be sick with that paint!!!omg
bleh....LS1 doesnt turn me on...

And I think its kind of disrespectful to an S-chassis to put in a non-Nissan engine.

I begg to differ but this is a whole different thread...I have one and its great best swap ive ever done dont regret it a bit....And I hate american cars

[VQMaxFan]

wow really!! well you know im gonna be bias alittle right now when is comes to lsx swaps because(I have one) they are typically 00 motors and newer compaired to they commonly swap motors like sr20's and rb's. So yeah that would IMO warrant a 18k price tag and if not 18k something around 16k if he had an ls1....if he had an ls2,3,or 7(expensive) then yes 18k or more.....
also please post a pic if you have one of that motor its gotta be sick with that paint!!!omg

I talked to the guy before the show started and he popped the hood for me, it was pretty dirty. He got home from iraq 2 days before the show and they spent the day/night before the show putting all the body panels back on the car. Thus why it doesn't have turn signals and etc on it.

You can sorta see inside the engine bay in this picture.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k13/vqmaxfan/n662651442_1330339_3750.jpg?t=1229895621

[RUTH'LESSDET]

I talked to the guy before the show started and he popped the hood for me, it was pretty dirty. He got home from iraq 2 days before the show and they spent the day/night before the show putting all the body panels back on the car. Thus why it doesn't have turn signals and etc on it.

You can sorta see inside the engine bay in this picture.
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k13/vqmaxfan/n662651442_1330339_3750.jpg?t=1229895621
Okay IC...is it a ls1,2 ,3 etc?


Shameless plug #1: My motor
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/ruthlessdet/flushing%20meadow%2012%2007%2008/IMG_0100.jpg
dont worry im gonna put myself on the chopping block later on so you guys can tell me why my car aint worth the 22k i want for it!!!

[SleepR 240sx]

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5 miles on it.

There you go.

[ESmorz]

Okay IC...is it a ls1,2 ,3 etc?


Shameless plug #1: My motor
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/ruthlessdet/flushing%20meadow%2012%2007%2008/IMG_0100.jpg
dont worry im gonna put myself on the chopping block later on so you guys can tell me why my car aint worth the 22k i want for it!!!

It's not worth it.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

It's not worth it.
LOL I know but...why would a 1993 rx7 with same swap be worth that an more??
example 1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1993-Mazda-RX-7-V8-LS1-T56-6speed-CLEAN-Black-Tan_W0QQitemZ200289969184QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Trucks QQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=i tem200289969184&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308)

[ESmorz]

LOL I know but...why would a 1993 rx7 with same swap be worth that an more??
example 1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1993-Mazda-RX-7-V8-LS1-T56-6speed-CLEAN-Black-Tan_W0QQitemZ200289969184QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Trucks QQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=i tem200289969184&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308)

No, for the reasons I stated above.

[VQMaxFan]

Its an LS1, z28 motor.

The FD defiantly has a better interior, thats the one thing i love about them.

[usdm180sx]

I'd say it has to be super clean, built with high end good quality parts, properly dyno tuned and most importantly there has to be a willing buyer. I sold my zenki s14 for $19k

[chibo]

LOL I know but...why would a 1993 rx7 with same swap be worth that an more??
example 1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1993-Mazda-RX-7-V8-LS1-T56-6speed-CLEAN-Black-Tan_W0QQitemZ200289969184QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Trucks QQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=i tem200289969184&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308)

Because it's a far rarer car, looks better, nicer chassis, was an icon of the 90's, etc. The 240 is basically a Civic - there were a ton produced and for cheap, only around 14k FD RX7s were built while there were 251k 240sxes built.

[boost_addict]

compare a FD with a S chassis? haha wtf

[Chaws15]

LOL I know but...why would a 1993 rx7 with same swap be worth that an more??
example 1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1993-Mazda-RX-7-V8-LS1-T56-6speed-CLEAN-Black-Tan_W0QQitemZ200289969184QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Trucks QQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=i tem200289969184&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308)

I also feel that you have to take into consideration that FD's are a totally different animal. They were produced to compete with Porsche's when they were originally released, and the original MSRP reflects that.

The 240, on the other hand, was made for secretaries and bachelorettes, and were almost half of the FD's MSRP (iirc).

In addition to status, the rarity definitely plays a part. There may not be many clean 240's around, but there are less FD's.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Because it's a far rarer car, looks better, nicer chassis, was an icon of the 90's, etc. The 240 is basically a Civic - there were a ton produced and for cheap, only around 14k FD RX7s were built while there were 251k 240sxes built.
do you know how many 97-98 240sx 's were made im curious??
compare a FD with a S chassis? haha wtf
nah just play devil advocate!!
I also feel that you have to take into consideration that FD's are a totally different animal. They were produced to compete with Porsche's when they were originally released, and the original MSRP reflects that.

The 240, on the other hand, was made for secretaries and bachelorettes, and were almost half of the FD's MSRP (iirc).

In addition to status, the rarity definitely plays a part. There may not be many clean 240's around, but there are less FD's.true story

[usdm180sx]

Well, in Initial D the FD, with it's mountain tuned suspension setup, was beaten by a 10 year old 86 junker :keke:

[silviachik420]

Nope, sorry.
The paint's gotta be immaculate with new oem shit, spotless glass, trim, interior...

I'd pay 18k if it looked like this...
http://www.timammons.com/Photos/240SX/240_15.JPG
http://www.timammons.com/Photos/240SX/240_20.JPG



hahaha this looks just like the car the OP said is not worth 18k


IMO i think sick13's car is bad ass if i had a shit load of cash to blow i would rock it!!!!

[azndoc]

In my opinion a car is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.

no one can agree with someone when it comes to an object's price.

Recently someone asked me if i was to sell my car what would the price be?

I consulted with some friends and decided on a price.

The person didn't bitch about because he knows that I don't really want to sell my car but if I was then it should be a price that is well worth it for me to sell at.

[S13SilviaGirl]

In my opinion a car is worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.

no one can agree with someone when it comes to an object's price.

Recently someone asked me if i was to sell my car what would the price be?

I consulted with some friends and decided on a price.

The person didn't bitch about because he knows that I don't really want to sell my car but if I was then it should be a price that is well worth it for me to sell at.

^^^Ditto^^^

Price and worth are a relative subject. I would want a lot for my car IF I were to ever sell it. But that will never happen.

[usdm180sx]

I'd say it has to be super clean, built with high end good quality parts, properly dyno tuned and most importantly there has to be a willing buyer. I sold my zenki s14 for $19k

Wow, what a coincidence :D

[Flicktitty]

too me it's all on what YOU WANT.

To me, The blue one is bad as fuck! Nice motor, Nice wheels, Nice paint,NICE!
but TO ME, i could do without the cage and gutted interior. And too me, the car isn't worth 18K for 18K i've seen turbo IS300's I've seen high mileage TT Supra's you can find NICE FD RX-7's you can get a Audi S4, Fuck you could get a C5 Vette.

The Red Zenki with the 700WHP 2JZ. Is the RIGHT CAR FOR ME.
if i could change anything on it i would have it a solid color (the flat/matte) doesn't do alot for me. But the wheels, the paint,body work, Motor,etc is all SPOT on and i think 18K for that car is pretty good.

A LSX/T56 Could get some good money depending how well the rest of the car is. OP i think your car from what i've seen of it is worth a good 15-18K BUT TO ME, i would have a hard time paying anywhere over 15K for one no matter how much is put into it, cause at the end of the day it's still a 240sx.

[devonkyle77]

18k = 40k invested, lol.

who the hell spends 18k on an s chassis? it would have to do everything up to and including suck cock to justify that.

[usdm180sx]

who the hell spends 18k on an s chassis?

People who don't have to ask if they can afford it. Or people who just don't care.

[devonkyle77]

thats the poorest investment ever, haha.
i have almost 30k in my kouki and its still a piece of shit. and if i were to sell it id get no more than 13 or 14 if im extremely lucky

[Chaws15]

thats the poorest investment ever, haha.
i have almost 30k in my kouki and its still a piece of shit. and if i were to sell it id get no more than 13 or 14 if im extremely lucky

You just went from saying "who would ever spend 18k on their S-chassis??" to "I've spent almost 30k on my kouki". You're making quite the contradiction there.

[ESmorz]

You just went from saying "who would ever spend 18k on their S-chassis??" to "I've spent almost 30k on my kouki". You're making quite the contradiction there.

It's one thing when you spend the money on all the parts to modify a car you already have. It's another when you are just buying the modified car.

:newbie:

[devonkyle77]

thanks esmorz

what i meant was, who is going to pay 18k outright for an s chassis.
i paid 14 for kouki in 2001. a 98 kouki can now be had for like 3500 bucks....
these cars have depreciated immensely.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

too me it's all on what YOU WANT.

To me, The blue one is bad as fuck! Nice motor, Nice wheels, Nice paint,NICE!
but TO ME, i could do without the cage and gutted interior. And too me, the car isn't worth 18K for 18K i've seen turbo IS300's I've seen high mileage TT Supra's you can find NICE FD RX-7's you can get a Audi S4, Fuck you could get a C5 Vette.

The Red Zenki with the 700WHP 2JZ. Is the RIGHT CAR FOR ME.
if i could change anything on it i would have it a solid color (the flat/matte) doesn't do alot for me. But the wheels, the paint,body work, Motor,etc is all SPOT on and i think 18K for that car is pretty good.

A LSX/T56 Could get some good money depending how well the rest of the car is. OP i think your car from what i've seen of it is worth a good 15-18K BUT TO ME, i would have a hard time paying anywhere over 15K for one no matter how much is put into it, cause at the end of the day it's still a 240sx.
thanx for the positive comments in regards to me. there is just something about that 2Jz s14....its just sexy

[MadScientist]

OK I'll bite on this thread.....

I purchased my 1997 240sx Base Model back in 1999 for $16,000.
Up untill about 2002 the car held value above the $10,000 mark.
Currently, I see S14 Base Models going for $2000... even less... depending on condition.
However... JDM S14 models Imported to the US are selling for well into the $20,000 in stock trim.

How someone builds a car and the materials choosen declare the value... I hate to point fingers but Megan Racing/ Agency Power/ ebay parts/ even down to using different manufactures like having SPL Toe Rod and Kazama Traction Rod is a No-No in my book... keep it all one Brand in a given area.

My Car... the one I have spent over 4 years planning and building with my own sweat and blood, not to mention hard earned cash... even selling myself to gain a possable sponsorship... Not worth $18K????? :fawk: You Can Not Build My Car... for $18K!!! I have just in parts... over $45K... most of you will jump out of your seats and bug out, but the truth is... shit adds up fast when you build something the right way... down to the Cusco Bronze Shifter Cap.

You build it cheep.... it sells cheep.
You build it right.... it sells higher.
You build it for you, not to re-sell, or because its the cool new drift car, you don't build to impress girls or some dueshbag on the other end of some internet connection. Build it for YOU, How you want it, keep it forever, and it will be priceless.

I will Not for one second even consider selling my car for anything less then $25,000 in its current (as is) condition!

That is My Opinion!!

-Drew

[usdm180sx]

When I built my s14 I didn't think I would sell it. It's my hobby so I don't build cars with what I will sell them for when I'm done in my mind.

[Chaws15]

It's one thing when you spend the money on all the parts to modify a car you already have. It's another when you are just buying the modified car.

:newbie:

:Ownedd: We need a Courage the Cowardly Dog smilie, just for me!!

thanks esmorz

what i meant was, who is going to pay 18k outright for an s chassis.
i paid 14 for kouki in 2001. a 98 kouki can now be had for like 3500 bucks....
these cars have depreciated immensely.

I understand the circumstances, I was just solely looking on price, my bad. Don't get me wrong, I'll be dumping way too much on my S14 just to get it to stock specs (I'm going to do what Petrol did and refurbish (http://www.sxoc.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=283826&highlight=Petrol+Refurb) my car).

At the end of it all, what would it be worth to some bloke off the streets? Probably not much. But I'm going to do it because she's mine and I can do what I please. And for that, she's priceless.

[smelly240]

IMO REDSQUARE's car is bad enough to be worth 18K.

that shits nice and IIRC - Original owner?

[Icy13]

The problem with the 2jz red 240 is that anyone who will appreciate the love that went into that car and the glory that it can achieve would not drop 18K on an already modded car; they would have to have enough knowledge to build it themselves and very likely the will to build it to appreciate what that car is. What it is is an excellent example of someone who planned exactly what they wanted and executed it to their desire.

Remember: cars are NOT an investment... you dont make money modifying a car. Therefore, IMO, if you are to modify a car you better be doing it for some reason other than money (in resale, race winnings would be another story :) ) Otherwise, the money is literally burning up and fuming out the tail pipe. This is also why, IMO, you should NEVER take out a loan to build your car (loans are only to invest in capital, which turns a profit in the future, yay for my highschool macro-econ teacher :-P)

Final opinion: I, myself, really cannot see a reason to buy a car with 10-20K in parts added simply because anyone who can apprecaite the work would rather do the job themselves b/c the joy of a car with more part value than combined value is the work you put into it. However, knowing that people do this, I can see no other reason than because they are trying to proove something (to others, to themself, w/e)... I dont know what, but I cannot think of a legit reason to purchase a 20k modded car worth 2-5k blue book for the reasons above. Comments?

BTW Drew, I quite admire your philosophy on (build it for you and priceless) but personally think that saving money in certain places is a part of that. For example, I refuse to believe that a pipe is not a pipe (in certain positions and applications :) ). I dont see any problem with a megan manifold for a t25 system, for example, because such a system is not designed for the rigors of racing and a proper megan system for dd (with a flex downpipe) will never crack a megan manifold. However, I do acknowledge that often such parts indicate a poorly designed and executed vehicle however I think it wrong to deprecate a part designed to fill the dd crowd.

Konrad

[usdm180sx]

Ok. Let's set some ground rules here. Cars are a hobby not an investment. Because these cars trade for so cheap they should be considered as a hobby.

As far as investments go, buy what appreciates lease what depreciates. If you are planning to buy a 240sx as an investment, you are not wise at all.

[RurouniMidnight]

You build it cheep.... it sells cheep.
You build it right.... it sells higher.
You build it for you, not to re-sell, or because its the cool new drift car, you don't build to impress girls or some dueshbag on the other end of some internet connection. Build it for YOU, How you want it, keep it forever, and it will be priceless.

-Drew

Amen, its hard to build a car, invest alot of money into it and get what its worth, also people would rather build a car themselves i know i would. I tried to sell my car last month acctully for about a week but then decided to keep it like i had always intended on doing forever, i relized no one was going to give me anything close to the time and money spent but im glad now, i can keep it and finish working on it and make it like i want it.

[Red Square]

IMO REDSQUARE's car is bad enough to be worth 18K.

that shits nice and IIRC - Original owner?


not too many people know, but you could buy a brand new s14 for dirt cheap, even though they had expensive sticker prices. my base model was listed at $19,900 and an hour later i took her home for $13,900. alot of people are shock i got it for soo cheap, but nobody wanted these things, they just sat on the lot for months taking up space.

ive had 2 different older guys offer more than $20k for my car. and one younger guy wanted to trade his 1 year old 350z. but yah, i would never sell it. even if i put back all my stock parts, i wouldnt sell it for $20k lol. sound pretty stupid, but when i was 16 and poor, i never work so hard in my entire life for some thing. too much sentimental value. and plus since im alittle better off now, money has less meaning.

[chibo]

do you know how many 97-98 240sx 's were made im curious??

Like 6k in the US.

[azndoc]

If you build a car because you think that its an investment.

Your doing it wrong.

Done.

Its not a coin collection kind of hobby.

Yes some people should start buying stamps and magic cards instead of building this whole hobby car.

[aNskY]

the only schassis i would pay 18k for is a low milage, street legal s15.
spending $20k on an s14 build does NOT make it worth anything close to that.

[Erjay1]

I dont think it matters or should matter unless its your car that's for sale. I can have a sh1tty $2k car, but if I want to sell it for $18k, then thats what I'll TRY and do. Doesn't mean I'll be able to sell it but hey that would be my problem right?

[S14DRFTX]

if you save this thread ..... and look at it in like ten years .......I think we will get a laugh out of it.....

I have been offered 14k for my car....98s14........... and like a bunch of people have said I have like 50k plus into my car ....... I wouldnt and couldnt sell it.....one cause i love it..... and another because i ant that generous to anybody...
I rather have it to give to my son then give away 35 grand to some kid that going to put it into the wall anyway

Alex

[aznpoopy]

LOL I know but...why would a 1993 rx7 with same swap be worth that an more??

the 1993 rx7 bone stock in fair condition with 100k on it (unblown) is valued at 12-13k. with a blown REW the 3rd gen is still worth 5-8k. in comparison, you'd be lucky to pull in 7-8k for a fair condition kouki 240. if its absolutely mint you might get 10k stock. if its blown, it might be worth a 1-2k tops.

in short, trying to get a 240sx to 18k is more comparable to getting a FD to 25k or so

[RUTH'LESSDET]

if you save this thread ..... and look at it in like ten years .......I think we will get a laugh out of it.....

I have been offered 14k for my car....98s14........... and like a bunch of people have said I have like 50k plus into my car ....... I wouldnt and couldnt sell it.....one cause i love it..... and another because i ant that generous to anybody...
I rather have it to give to my son then give away 35 grand to some kid that going to put it into the wall anyway

Alex
malaka you have one of the best looking original kouki's ive ever seen in person here on the east coast... BAR NONE!!

[C. Anderson]

IMO it's like buying a brand new car, as soon as you drive it off the lot it depreciates %10 or more. Just for instance, I know it's not down to a science like this, as soon as you buy those $1200 coilovers and install them you can get about another $800 for the car. Like said in some of these other posts, 240s are not collectibles and probably never will be compared to mk4 supras, fds, nsx's, etc. which were produced in lower numbers and designed to be "race cars".

[OBEEWON]

Red Square has the best car on this site.

He also has one of the best screen names second to me...

Trying to decide a modified cars worth is like trying to figure out what type of girl is best to marry. You just cant put it in a box. Not possible.

I recently was in a wreck and produced over $13k in reciepts which wasn't even all my modifications (no cosmetic modifications included) and my car was still totaled.

Earlier this year I sold the car for $17k and bought it back like a dummy.

[S13shaka]

what does it take to get 18k or more?

a sucker.

[LA_phantom_240]

IMHO no street legal S13 or S14 is worth $18k or more.

[drift freaq]

Wow, I think Norm said it best. He got 18k for his S14. I got 12,500. for my RB powered S13. Fact is would I get that today for the same car? Hard to say. I build my cars because I want to.
Some would say I am insane for doing my current build. I won't sell it unless someone pays me exactly what I want out of it for my work. Will that be more than it cost me to build? Hell yes! Labor hours equal money as well as money invested.

Anyone who says you can't build a car and turn a profit? Well they are either not pro's or they are hobbyist collectors.
This is not meant as an insult either, its just a fact. People have been building customized cars for profit since the the mid 50's. Not everyone can do this. Not everyone can sell a car for more money than it cost them to build.
If a person is willing to pay whatever a person wants for the car then they(the person selling ) has done his homework. Or the person buying just wants that particular car so bad and see's that it would be harder for him or her to do it their selves.

In the end whether you think its right or wrong worth it or not its done. I can tell you people have said my car was well worth what it sold for. Others have said it was not. Most of you speak out of your own personal opinion having nothing to do with how much the person invested in time and money. You're not that them so your judgement may be complete ass talk. Get over. If you have to complain about the car not being worth that much your probably a broke ass that could not afford it to begin with.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

IMO it's like buying a brand new car, as soon as you drive it off the lot it depreciates %10 or more. Just for instance, I know it's not down to a science like this, as soon as you buy those $1200 coilovers and install them you can get about another $800 for the car. Like said in some of these other posts, 240s are not collectibles and probably never will be compared to mk4 supras, fds, nsx's, etc. which were produced in lower numbers and designed to be "race cars".

I dont agree with you completely. IMO Kouki's are collectibles. Maybe not recognized by everyone but We all know they are hard to come by, and were produced in limited quantities.

[OBEEWON]

In that case Verts and two tones are too.

[nismo tuned s14]

http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/205769-fs-full-locks-s14-rb26-x2-hks-gt2530-msports-do-luck-aem-top-secret.html

That car is worth it, for sure.

[Full-Lock]

i just sold my s14 for 45,000

-If you selling a car for 18k for above should you try to include as much things as possible?

yes

-Should a 95-96 converted kouki be worth more than a 97-98 original kouki?

not worth more, but it should add value

-Does having a newer motor help?

not in my case, my rb26 was a 1990 motor, almost 20 yrs old

-Does having a bigger motor help? (i.e RB26, 1JZ, 2JZ, LS1,2,3,6,7)

yes

-Does having an older motor like SR20, RB20 hurt or help you and why?

no, like i said, my motor was almost 20 years old. condition was excellent, but it was still old

-Does swap difficulty increase the value?

yes. this is why the buyer was willing to pay. even after owning his own shop, the new buyer said he has never seen a swap or wiring job like my car had

-Does suspension, and aero play a big factor?

to a certain point.
imo
if you have someone paying big money it is probably not for an aero kit.
peaople that pay big usually are looking for power and reliablility. how a car looks is definatly a huge factor, along with quality of aero kit, but what brand aero you go with isnt all that huge of a deal, as long as its tasteful, authentic, and quality and a perfect fit is there.
susp. is important, coilovers obviously looks better on a for sale ad than cut springs.

just a tip
when selling your car dont listen to other people saying youll never get what your asking
i had people telling me i wouldnt get 25,000, not because of build quality, but because people in the market for these usually dont have money.
finding a buyer is extemely hard, but they are out there.

[Brian]

Full Lock is the absolute KING.

posi rep

[RUTH'LESSDET]

i just sold my s14 for 45,000

-If you selling a car for 18k for above should you try to include as much things as possible?

yes

-Should a 95-96 converted kouki be worth more than a 97-98 original kouki?

not worth more, but it should add value

-Does having a newer motor help?

not in my case, my rb26 was a 1990 motor, almost 20 yrs old

-Does having a bigger motor help? (i.e RB26, 1JZ, 2JZ, LS1,2,3,6,7)

yes

-Does having an older motor like SR20, RB20 hurt or help you and why?

no, like i said, my motor was almost 20 years old. condition was excellent, but it was still old

-Does swap difficulty increase the value?

yes. this is why the buyer was willing to pay. even after owning his own shop, the new buyer said he has never seen a swap or wiring job like my car had

-Does suspension, and aero play a big factor?

to a certain point.
imo
if you have someone paying big money it is probably not for an aero kit.
peaople that pay big usually are looking for power and reliablility. how a car looks is definatly a huge factor, along with quality of aero kit, but what brand aero you go with isnt all that huge of a deal, as long as its tasteful, authentic, and quality and a perfect fit is there.
susp. is important, coilovers obviously looks better on a for sale ad than cut springs.

just a tip
when selling your car dont listen to other people saying youll never get what your asking
i had people telling me i wouldnt get 25,000, not because of build quality, but because people in the market for these usually dont have money.
finding a buyer is extemely hard, but they are out there.

OMG Full lock your the man... your car as you know was absolutely sick!!! With your post you kinda threw a money wrench I mean monkey wrench into the thread!!! 45k holy shit you really opened my eyes about the possible potential of our beloved 240sx with the right mix. IC an Rb26 old or new can hook a big fish!!!! Hats off you to you my friend i would love to know what was your original asking price for the car? Did you honestly believe you would have gotten that much? im just curious

[devonkyle77]

45k for an s chassis? i demand pics.
who is the asshat that paid that? for 45k id buy a used 911, not a fucking 240sx. and i love 240's lol

[MadScientist]

i just sold my S14 for $45,000.

^^^^^^
Full-Lock

I was waiting for you to see this!!

I didn't do this the first post so.....

1.) -If you selling a car for 18k for above should you try to include as much things as possible?
Definately... the little parts do count and shows attention to detail which in turn shows quality.
2.)-Should a 95-96 converted kouki be worth more than a 97-98 original kouki?
NO... Kouki are harder to find, however I do argee that a 94 Vert would be more Rare, but less demand when you get the same car from 91-93. If you went off this theory the S15 Stawberry Face would be done to hell and back.... oh wait, it is!!
3.)-Does having a newer motor help?
YES... I hate seeing S13 SR20s in S14s... S13s with S14/S15-SR gets more respect... this gets me... Ex. the S15 engine is the most pointless marked up buy... your going to re-place all those parts that make it the S15 (injectors,turbo, ....thats it... trany? be real, just buy it) Save money and buy the S14 SR... the Black Top S13 is a $500 mark-up and you may actually get a 96+... but who knows... it could be a 91-95
4.)-Does having a bigger motor help? (i.e RB26, 1JZ, 2JZ, LS1,2,3,6,7).
That really depends on the quality of the swap... M.I.C...K.E.Y.... M.O.U.S.E.... says it all!! IMO... I dont like the 1JZ swap on the S-chassis, 2JZ swap is cool but cost is retarded... LS can be done very nice... RB swap is shaddy when its a 20 and even some 25s... if your going RB... Go 26
5.)-Does swap difficulty increase the value?
Yes... but this still goes under Quality... I have done SR20s in AE86s... RB26 in JZA80... SR20 in FD3S... all sort of Honda swaps.... It is all about Quality... now if you did something that decreases HP or way left feild... like a CA18 in a S14, or a NA SR20 in almost anything FR.... I did say almost!!
6.)-Does suspension, and aero play a big factor?
The outside of your car is what everyone sees... If it looks like shit... you bet, I am thinking its going to run like shit and have all sorts of issues. Suspension... see first post!

I have a Evo 9 MR also... there is only 600 of the MRs... most of you dont know that all cars that compete in a GT race must have a production # greater then 500.... the # higher then 500 declairs the Rarety.... however Supercars get to bend the rules.... Maseratti MC12 anyone?

-Drew

[spencer240sx]

Just add a little i know the sick13 car and if i had the money i would buy it in a heart beat love that car seen it as it was built love it...

[INeedNewTires]

Very interesting thread....

IMO a car is only worth what someone will pay for it. So without the right buyer, the car isint worth anything. This has to do with your advertizing, effort, and most of all timing. If you were to sell a 'done-up' 240 in 2003-04 then obviously the car would have brought more cash, economy was better, drift craze was insane, the market was churning.

~Now~ that same car is worth probably around 20% less. Its funny i've flipped a few 240's and finally found the one i'm going to keep forever.

1st. S13 hatch 5sp SE. bone stock, rebuilt engine, bought for 1k, owned it for 9mos, blew the motor, sold it for $1800 with a sparco seat installed and a blown motor. this was in 2004-drift tax was in my favor.

2nd. S13 coupe 5sp base. bought it from the origional owner (who was an old guy, didnt know shit) for $750. Literally didnt do A THING to it, didnt transfer title or even put gas in it, sold it 3wks later for $2500. At the time i wish i hadn't but now i'm glad i did, and thats one hell of an investment. This was in 2005. Drift tax helps me again.

3rd. now its 2007, i've been saving for my dream 240 for 2yrs now, finally find the one. It must be kouki, 5sp, no moonroof, and with a swap already. Found just that and more. My goal with this car was to buy someones failed investment, so i could save money, and build the car tastefully but in my way, however I dont have all the tools or the means to do a motor swap and i saved alot of money by going this route.

The car was a stock body, stock suspension origional Kouki but had an S14 SR with a 2871 and a motor built and tuned by a reputable race shop with less than 500 miles on it. The seller had it in 'hock' at the shop, and his wife was threatening that "if you put another dollar into that damn car i'm divorcing your ass" he listed it on craigslist, and 18hrs later it was mine. Now i had a perfect baseline to start with. I get to choose all the suspension, interior, and bodywork, but dont have to mess with the motor for a little while, and best of all it was reliable and fresh. This car i will never sell....ever.


On another note, my older brother bought brand new one of the last USDM Kouki's in existance. He bought it at the end of 98, it had 7 miles on it. It currently sits in his garage, immaculate, with 57k on the clock, its a black/black 5sp SE non-abs with absolutely NOTHING done to it. He has the origionaly brochure, manuals, spare, wheel locks, dash mat, window sticker, EVERYTHING. He's been offered 15k for it, he will probably never sell it, or maybe not until he gets a stupid offer for it, like 30k or something retarted. But what do you guys think something like that is worth?

[aznpoopy]

5spd 98 is super rare as it is. unmodded and pristine is ridiculous. i don't think anyone could really guess what the market price for that thing would be. 15k doesn't seem overpriced to me at all. if the 240 reaches collector status it could easily be worth more. it could easily be worth more to the right buyer. but if the 240 hype goes away, it might be going for kbb. who knows.

[SimpleS14]

I will start:
http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/229628-1996-240sx-2jz-swapped-700whp.html
IMO!!!! this car is worth more than 20k because:
sick ass motor swap, claimed horsepower, swap difficulty, clean swap, clean interior (full), rims.....this one is self explanatory in all the car was taste fully done!

wow....i can say that this car is worth 18k. Simply amazing.

would I buy it? hellz nah :keke:

IMO...

I think because we own these cars and know what it takes to make them "nice" in our eyes...we can't justify dropping $xx,xxx all at once on something that is not 100% tailored to our wants and needs.

In that price range I rather get something that is more practical. Actually I did just that and picked up a M35x. :)

Nope, sorry.
The paint's gotta be immaculate with new oem shit, spotless glass, trim, interior...

I'd pay 18k if it looked like this...
http://www.timammons.com/Photos/240SX/240_15.JPG


That car is not worth 18K...yet it does look like a collector item (once it has proper turn signals :keke:).

I much rather have the G37 next to it (white one).

LOL I know but...why would a 1993 rx7 with same swap be worth that an more??
example 1 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1993-Mazda-RX-7-V8-LS1-T56-6speed-CLEAN-Black-Tan_W0QQitemZ200289969184QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Trucks QQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Cars_Trucks?hash=i tem200289969184&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A727|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308)

Sorry but I would take the FD over your car (or any S14 really). The style, chassis and interior is down right fiyah and I hope this one comes with the blonde lol

[flip3d]

If you want 18k and you put 18k+ in it, part it out.

Part
It
Out

[forum04pl]

IMO

I agree with Full-Lock, I feel if the work is done properly and the car shows it after modification the value increases. I'm a firm believer that an S chassis can be worth 18K+.... I've had first hand experience with it ;)

[aNskY]

On another note, my older brother bought brand new one of the last USDM Kouki's in existance. He bought it at the end of 98, it had 7 miles on it. It currently sits in his garage, immaculate, with 57k on the clock, its a black/black 5sp SE non-abs with absolutely NOTHING done to it. He has the origionaly brochure, manuals, spare, wheel locks, dash mat, window sticker, EVERYTHING. He's been offered 15k for it, he will probably never sell it, or maybe not until he gets a stupid offer for it, like 30k or something retarted. But what do you guys think something like that is worth?


seeing as no one buys these cars to keep stock, low miles, in the garage, i think you would have a hard time getting more than 10k for it, unless you found a real enthusiast / collector. im even willing to bet that if he had accepted the 15k offer, the guy woulda flaked.

[RUTH'LESSDET]

This thread is getting pretty interesting with all the different views

I've been saving for my dream 240 for 2yrs now, finally find the one. It must be kouki, 5sp, no moonroof, and with a swap already. Found just that and more. My goal with this car was to buy someones failed investment, so i could save money, and build the car tastefully but in my way, however I dont have all the tools or the means to do a motor swap and i saved alot of money by going this route.

On another note, my older brother bought brand new one of the last USDM Kouki's in existance. He bought it at the end of 98, it had 7 miles on it. It currently sits in his garage, immaculate, with 57k on the clock, its a black/black 5sp SE non-abs with absolutely NOTHING done to it. He has the origionaly brochure, manuals, spare, wheel locks, dash mat, window sticker, EVERYTHING. He's been offered 15k for it, he will probably never sell it, or maybe not until he gets a stupid offer for it, like 30k or something retarted. But what do you guys think something like that is worth?
Your brother is a luck bastard he should hold on to that car and not do something stupid like drift it. You never know what someone will pay for it as we all know now.

IMO there is nothing wrong with what you did. Alot of people are not mechanics/fabricators (myself included) and can't build or dont have the time to build there cars from the ground up like some people that do this type of thing for a living. "It aint tricking if you got it."
In my case my first 240sx (back in late 2001) was an 1991 s13 sil80 with all the fixing but i paid to have my swap done. I traded the car in 2004 (after 3 sr's, a $500 paint job no rims and countless $$ wasted) for a turbocharged 1993 b13 sentra and $2000. I sold the car to a friend in CT who then sold the car with a rusted out firewall for $8000 :bash::bash:(drift tax!!) I got rid of my sentra for $2300 and bought my mint 1997 240sx in 05 for $5800 with 84,000 miles on it. After i bought the 240sx i remembered all the drama i had with my s13 and said i would never touch my S14. 3 years later i was hit with the v8 bug...seven and a half plus for an engine & about 16k later, in misc shit. I would never take less than 18 grand for my hard work and effort put into this car (which was one of the FIRST ls2 s14 swaps done in the US!)


Sorry but I would take the FD over your car (or any S14 really). The style, chassis and interior is down right fiyah and I hope this one comes with the blonde lol
The funny thing about this is your right because the rx7 is secretly my dream car(and still is) but just never gotten around to getting one due to the price. and since im not a mechanic ive always feared having to pay for work on rotary motors. So thats how i ended up buying a 240sx

[RUTH'LESSDET]

IMO

I agree with Full-Lock, I feel if the work is done properly and the car shows it after modification the value increases. I'm a firm believer that an S chassis can be worth 18K+.... I've had first hand experience with it ;)

I totally agree now!!!

[shinhed]

The funny thing about this is your right because the rx7 is secretly my dream car(and still is) but just never gotten around to getting one due to the price. and since im not a mechanic ive always feared having to pay for work on rotary motors. So thats how i ended up buying a 240sx

That's me too. I even bought the 99+ jdm bumper and lights in preparation of owning one, then I chickened out because of high maintenance and because I have so much s-chassis shit.

Where are the pics your $18K+ s14? I'm ready to tear it apart:)

[RUTH'LESSDET]

Where are the pics your $18K+ s14? I'm ready to tear it apart:):ddog::ddog::ddog:
.....I gotta make a mod list up and prepare for my :spank::spank:

[RUTH'LESSDET]

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[sidewayzsx]

you have done a great job and excellent build but i say its worth around 10-12k? .... looks great and am sure that is no where near what you have put into it

[RUTH'LESSDET]

you have done a great job and excellent build but i say its worth around 10-12k? .... looks great and am sure that is no where near what you have put into it

lol lol lol your bugging, you couldn't even get a 00 ls1 swapped car for that...remember this is a 2 year old motor not a 20 year old rb26 motor. Everybody may not be familiar with the prices for the parts but its not cheeap!!. There are only a handful of people in the US right now with a 6.0l LS2 in a 240sx due to the prices of these motors. Currently on the v8 forum me, lethal, a guy in england, and a guy with a s13 have ls2 swaps that i can remember. Everybody goes with cheaper 5.7l motors. If you paid a place like hinson to do a turn key swap there base building cost is $8,583.25 not including the price of the engine and transmission. thats just the parts not including the price of the car either. Somebody with some knowledge please post:l101::l101:!!!! I think this kid bumped his damn head LOLOLOLOLOL