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khmer1
12-19-2008, 01:38 AM
hey yah just got some new headlight(e-codes) with a higher watts bulb and now i need to upgrade my harness i cant find a write up or any information(or im just a bad searcher) on the subject so hopefully someone can help me out before i blind every one on the road haha
if you need more info just reply on here
UPDATED*
my fault i did this thread at like 3 in the morning anyway my car is an 1990 240sx hatch that has 200m autopal e-code(euro spec?) conversion head lights housing kit (using h4 bulbs which came standard forgot the watts waiting for money for some cibies or hella) i readed some where that if you where to use higher h4 bulbs for a more brighter light output you'll need to upgrade the harness to prevent from FAIL haha or maybe death of your car anyways the bulb im planning on using are 90/100w h4 lights btw i would also need to attach a fuse case for them also
so i was wondering which guage yah guys would recommed to make it safe also what fuse to use . I also need a pic of the wiring of what to cut and what not
or should i just skip all this crap i see if they have some bright fog light somewhere
p.s doing this crap at 3-4 in the morn again 3-4 more hours before i go to work damn i need some sleepp....
Sil-Abc
12-19-2008, 01:50 AM
first what car u have would be helpful. second i dont believe theres an upgrade harness so what u can do is diy and use higher gauge wires. I dont understand y u need to upgrade the harness because replacements SHOULDNT cause any problems like this and if they did the manufacturer would offer harness replacements. Did u replace the whole headlight housing or just the bulb? If anything, go to radio shack, move up in gauge level from the standard 8/10 guage wire? (correct me if im wrong) to the next one (lower number = bigger wire) and u should be fine. Im just worried about ur fuses though....
fliprayzin240sx
12-19-2008, 02:13 AM
hey yah just got some new headlight(e-codes) with a higher watts bulb and now i need to upgrade my harness i cant find a write up or any information(or im just a bad searcher) on the subject so hopefully someone can help me out before i blind every one on the road haha
if you need more info just reply on here
Wait...WHAT??? What the fuck does upgrading your headlight harness got anything to do with you blinding people?!?! You're changing a fucking bulb to a higher wattage bulb, its not gonna change or move your cut offs.
The only reason you need to change wires is due to the higher wattage bulbs. Stock wires are too skinny and have a potential to burn up/melt/catch on fire due to the extra power draw and the bulbs running hotter.
Its not rocket science like already stated, buy some crimper, some bigger gauge wire, crimp connectors (better yet, learn to solder) and atleast redo the wires from the wiring plug to the headlight plug.
Rayne
12-19-2008, 02:14 AM
Sil-Abc..you are correct. Wire gets bigger as the gauge number gets lower.
projectRDM
12-19-2008, 08:55 AM
Relays. Simple, add a relay per bulb. Or, keep the OE wattage bulbs, you're not gaining very much by going higher wattage if the housing isn't designed for it.
s13pignose
12-19-2008, 09:07 AM
Yeah what car..is it a nissan or and audi/vw. I know I've seem that term e-code on vw sites. But that could refer european guidelines? Pretty sure they have plug and play harnesses on ebay. just match to your bulb size...h4, h3, 9005 etc.
khmer1
12-20-2008, 01:16 AM
updated tried to answer some question so give me a break if i didnt
s13pignose
12-20-2008, 08:25 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__BRAND-NEW-LUMINICS-HEAVY-DUTY-WIRE-HARNESS-FOR-H4-BULBS_W0QQitemZ280293648174QQadiZ2865QQadnZCarQ20Q 26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZViewIt emQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=ite m280293648174&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A543%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__BRAND-NEW-LUMINICS-HEAVY-DUTY-WIRE-HARNESS-FOR-H4-BULBS_W0QQitemZ280293648174QQadiZ2865QQadnZCarQ20Q 26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZViewIt emQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=ite m280293648174&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A543%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 )
Only suggestion I cna think of
projectRDM
12-20-2008, 09:35 AM
I'd really like to see a picture of what all that ^ comes with. If there's no relays, fuses, and a lead to the battery it's useless.
LA_phantom_240
12-20-2008, 09:55 AM
Catz Zeta ftw.
s13pignose
12-20-2008, 12:25 PM
Aw crap i forgot about theno ebay links...don't ban me lol. My bad..just trying to help. But yea it doesn't have relays. There was an apc harness that included all that lol...but then again I'm not the biggest fan of apc nor do I like to promote them lol
s13pignose
12-20-2008, 12:27 PM
Catz Zeta ftw.
Is that the poor mans hid system setup?
anyway this looks a like a "real deal" harness
http://www.suvlights.com/product_info.php?products_id=112
projectRDM
12-20-2008, 03:47 PM
Aw crap i forgot about theno ebay links...don't ban me lol. My bad..just trying to help. But yea it doesn't have relays. There was an apc harness that included all that lol...but then again I'm not the biggest fan of apc nor do I like to promote them lol
See, that's stupid. How can it handle higher current without relays? If you're just stepping the wire up a gauge, the smaller gauge is still the weak point. I hope people aren't buying that shit.
s13pignose
12-20-2008, 04:03 PM
I dunno lol..I didn't. Believe it was14 gauge wire heat resistant plastic...the ebay one that is
khmer1
12-20-2008, 11:22 PM
i wonna see if there's a good harness that already made like this that people might recommend and agree that is good
hmm seems like the second one s13 pignose posted looks good i might get that...but i dont know about it unless some one has use it before
also i seen this on ebay Matrix Upgrade Wire Harness H4 4 Lamps - 01-133 (looks like it come with the fuses and stuff waiting on a response from the seller)but yah have to search it since pignose said there a rule or something with posting ebay links right?
hey every one i used to own a 87 rx7 and i used this due to blowing my stupid harness doing my diy hid setup and it worked minttttttt i only had low beams i didnt have high/low beam hid kit but it workd and for $30 why not try it its all plug and play it plugs right into the old sockets and requiers a negative for each headlight and just one possitive off the battery and you can call black dragon and ask if itll work
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japslapsilvia
03-11-2011, 08:47 AM
this thread is like 3 years old.......
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