Ikeya Seq. Shifter Install Help!!

[wheruatsuk]

hello everyone i got me a Ikeya Shifter but cant read the Japanese install manual. Was wondering if anyone has installed one and could help out thx. Trannys from a blk top s13. Thx in advance or if you have a english version that would be great. thx

[wheruatsuk]

So nobody has one of these shifters.

[palmdale_mob]

I don't lol

[wow-thats-a-cool-car]

your a baller for buying one lol

go to your old high school and see of there is a Japanese class that can translate it. Or just ask your friends if they know someone.

You need to post a review this thing is super cool

[Sileighty_DRFT89]

baller part. I'd love to see how it works out once you get it installed

[pssht]

hello everyone i got me a Ikeya Shifter but cant read the Japanese install manual. Was wondering if anyone has installed one and could help out thx. Trannys from a blk top s13. Thx in advance or if you have a english version that would be great. thx

wont this only work on S15 sequential trannys?

just wondering.

[sillyvia13]

I can do it, send shifter to,
12 jefferson lane
New york new york. I put it in...
MY CAR!!!

FUCK YOU NUTTY!!BASTARD>! some one droppppppped a few $$$$$ for teh balllllerness....

You can call ikeya? or place you got from?
BUT DAMN!
your A game has arrived. Once you figure out the directions you'll be chacha cha CHIILLLIN!

[chibo]

wont this only work on S15 sequential trannys?

just wondering.

What? :wtf:


Someone did this over at ziptied.com , you might want to search over there.

[CmR333]

anyone have a link to this thing?

[DeadlyZ33]

lol you guys are funny....

Check my350z.com if you wanna see someone install it on a z. His username eludes me right now but if you search ikeya you should find it. He also had the directions translated I think, he had a copy of them scanned...

Overall I don't think its a complicated install at all, he removed his transmission and installed it while it was off the car. He had pics and videos..
Good luck.

[chibo]

anyone have a link to this thing?

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/326yusef/100_1811Medium.jpg
http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n165/326yusef/100_1829Medium.jpg
PRODUCT INFORMATION (http://www.ikeya-f.co.jp/en/product_notice/sequen_shifter.html)
http://www.ziptied.com/forums/index.php?topic=16722.0

[s13 @ fullboost]

damm thats tight must be expensive

[chibo]

damm thats tight must be expensive

$800 used or something. A waste of money and they aren't really designed for LHD cars (they are offset to the right and your ebrake will interfere).

[CmR333]

that is sooooo baller status.. i want one

[s13 @ fullboost]

How exactly does it work jw?

[LA_phantom_240]

Looks unnecessary.

Care to explain why it is considered 'baller status', anyone?

[chibo]

Looks unnecessary.

Care to explain why it is considered 'baller status', anyone?

'Ikeya Formula' in the name. :rofl:

[pssht]

What? :wtf:


Someone did this over at ziptied.com , you might want to search over there.


yea, my bad, was not thinking.

but yea just go to a near by high school to get it translated.

[shifts13]

heres a vid of it on a s15

YouTube - Ikeya Formula sequential shifter for Nissan Silvia S15 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ0L-hkSMlY)

[sillyvia13]

Looks unnecessary.

Care to explain why it is considered 'baller status', anyone?

explained.
baller is unnecessary.

[Jtuned_andy]

The shifter is a novel idea but practicality has gone out the window. You are still clutching in and out when using the shifter and when you want to get to neutral you have to always slap it down the gears.

Ikeya shifter = not worth it

[KwKouki]

not worth it..........in a street car. This was meant so you would never miss a gearchange. I say peace of mind of not blowing your engine die to a miss shift is worth the price of this thing.

I love how people rock welded diffs and stripped interiors on the street but they will bitch about having to row the gears for neutral and still use a clutch

[chibo]

The shifter is a novel idea but practicality has gone out the window. You are still clutching in and out when using the shifter and when you want to get to neutral you have to always slap it down the gears.

Ikeya shifter = not worth it

They have a button you can hit while moving the shifter and get neutral.

[kingkilburn]

I think the shit is ugly. If I didn't want to row through he gears I would just ger a real sequential transmission.

[Fat Felix]

Wait, what's the point of this shit if you still have to use the clutch??

[DreamN]

It's a sequential shifter, not a sequential transmission. It's designed so that drivers don't miss gears.

[simplistek]

from looking at it, you install it like any other shifter. it's a shifter plate and should be it's own standalone unit. like mentioned earlier, it's a shifter, not a transmission. so i assume you put the shifter into a neutral position, put the tranny in neutral. and bolt it on.

[LA_phantom_240]

'Ikeya Formula' in the name. :rofl:

When I hear, "Ikeya", I think of cheaply made DIY furniture.

[upSLIDEdown]

When I hear, "Ikeya", I think of cheaply made DIY furniture.

Try Ikea?

............

[LA_phantom_240]

Try Ikea?

............

I said hear, not see.

[Hashiriya415]

I'll translate it for you, just send me a copy

[BoostedCoupe]

You install it just like you would a B&M short thorw shifter. Take the shift knob off, then the radio/shifter trim. Take off the rubber boot around the shifter, you will then see the transmission. Get some needle noises and get the lock ring out of the middle of the shifter. After that pull the shifter out. Then from the looks of it remove the 4 bolts that you see on the tranny when you look straight down. Make sure the tranny is in neutral. Take the ikeya shifter. Put it therw the shift linkage in the tranny. Then put back those 4 bolts that you removed. Put them back in going therw the ikeya shifter first then to the trans mission. Then have fun trying to get the rubber boot back on and the leather boot. And have fun with it. I want one but i cant seem to find one for shit.

[LA_phantom_240]

You install it just like you would a B&M short thorw shifter. Take the shift knob off, then the radio/shifter trim. Take off the rubber boot around the shifter, you will then see the transmission. Get some needle noises and get the lock ring out of the middle of the shifter. After that pull the shifter out. Then from the looks of it remove the 4 bolts that you see on the tranny when you look straight down. Make sure the tranny is in neutral. Take the ikeya shifter. Put it therw the shift linkage in the tranny. Then put back those 4 bolts that you removed. Put them back in going therw the ikeya shifter first then to the trans mission. Then have fun trying to get the rubber boot back on and the leather boot. And have fun with it. I want one but i cant seem to find one for shit.

Should be six bolts. Two are a pain in the ass to get to.

[ChiSleepyEyes]

Should be six bolts. Two are a pain in the ass to get to.

the first 4 are ok from the top, but the two hidden, you may as well cut some metal or drop the tranny. took me like an extra 2 hrs to install for just those 2 bolts:smash:....

[LA_phantom_240]

the first 4 are ok from the top, but the two hidden, you may as well cut some metal or drop the tranny. took me like an extra 2 hrs to install for just those 2 bolts:smash:....

Yeah it's seriously gay.

[BoostedCoupe]

Yeah i know there is 6 bolts. But to install the shifter they do not need to come out. Only 4 need to come out. and then put back in to hold the ikeya in place. The other two are a biotch to get to. Hell even the 4 he will have to remove arent easy.

[Paul2x]

It's a sequential shifter, not a sequential transmission. It's designed so that drivers don't miss gears.

Exactally ^^^ .... In no way can you compair this to a complete racing gearbox.

You still have to use the clutch every time you shift.

Now if you combine this shifter w/ a H-pattern Dog box, Now you have a seq trans.

It' the trans that allows you to shift w/o the clutch not the shifter.

The Vid w/ the S15 is showcasing their Seq. shifter combined with their new Dog box they just came out with. You can order it with H-patten or w/ the Seq. shifter. So you need both.

Just wanted to clear that up.

I'm running a PPG racing box in my Silvia, H-pattern but Clutch-less shifts and the sound come in a close second to sex =) :wackit: :rawk:
Same as this: YouTube - PPG dogbox (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08QwRfwYnVo)

Add a Ikea shifter to the mix and ya got a Seq-racing box,

but ya gotta spend the $$ on the box first =)

:bow:

[ROUGE180]

I'm running a PPG racing box in my Silvia, H-pattern but Clutch-less shifts and the sound come in a close second to sex =) :wackit: :rawk:
Same as this: YouTube - PPG dogbox (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08QwRfwYnVo)
:bow:

Hollllyyyyyyyssshhiiittttttt that sounds so good and this super fast shifts.. wow.. I would not know what to do with myself lol:trogdor:

[Dousan_PG]

paul!
when u get the PPG
what happenned to your holinger one? or is that for another car?

i love dog boxes
they sound so amazing!!

[Paul2x]

Yeah,
Few guys talked me out of the Holinger. Durrning my last trip to Japan, when I was at Tomei they were working on their own boxes built by PPG for custom applications with their own ratio's and what not, so I brought one home with me =)

It's super buff, just overhauled/inspeceted to see how it looked after a season. Looked as good as new. Gears looked untouched. pretty sweet.

Ran a OS box in my GTR, that was nice too but i'm a PPG fan now.

:rawk:

[Dousan_PG]

sweet
i was looking to go PPG but trying to get a good place tobuy it from stateside
next year for sure
awesome. thanks paul!

[Paul2x]

sweet
i was looking to go PPG but trying to get a good place tobuy it from stateside
next year for sure
awesome. thanks paul!

Talk to these guys, They are who I use for a local contact.

Good relationship w/ PPG.

Welcome to Andrewtech Automotive Online - The Premier Facility for Performance-Minded Subaru and Import Owners (http://www.andrewtechautomotive.com/)

PM me your email and I'll send you the latest price list :bow:

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[wheruatsuk]

everyone thx for all the replys. well im gonna install this in a 71 Datsun 510 with S13 blk top. Once i get it installed i will do a write on the whole project. The car has been sitting for about 14yrs in storage. I did the conversion about 15yrs ago on another car but sold the car a year after i finished it. Well now im at it again with a new car with bigger and better parts.

Yes i have a few guys to translate but they arent car guys and some of the wording is diffcult for them to translate. I will send a few PM to guys who said they could translate for me. Thx for all your help. Ill keep everyone posted!!!

I also love when people talk shit about other peoples projects and what they are going to install and so on. Just shows how much of a hater you are. Yah the Ikeya Shifter isnt a Full Seq. Tranny so what! Do you have one! Its not a baller status item to me its just something different. If you dont like what im gonna install on this project then stay the FUCK OFF THE THREAD.

[kingkilburn]

How about this ass hat, why don't you want to put in a full sequential tranny?

If you don't want an opinion don't post on a public forum, and remember to take what people say with a grain of salt. The reality is that shifter is a little to much for the street. Is it still a cool part? Yes.

[wheruatsuk]

kingkilburn: Well the reason for not putting a full seq. tranny cost one thing and dont feel like spending all my days overhauling the tranny all the time.

I dont mind what people gotta say its koo talk all you want. And yah believe me i take all this with a grain of salt. But also if you dont have anything good to say why say it.

[CmR333]

if i could afford one of these things id rock it for the fact i would never miss a shift.

[lflkajfj12123]

I said hear, not see.

great you still fail

its not pronounced the same way

[timtiminy]

i found some text on how it works trying to understand it without the pictures is a pain though, here is the link: SEQUEN SHIFTER by Ikeya Formula [Archive] - The Top Cars (http://www.the-top.com/forum/archive/index.php?t-664.html)

[DreamN]

Ikeya = E-KEH-YAH

Ikea = EYE-KEY-AH

If I'm wrong someone please correct me.

[wheruatsuk]

timtiminy: thx for the info!!

DreamN: Ikeya = E-KEH-YAH is the right way of saying it!!

[lflkajfj12123]

Ikeya = E-KEH-YAH

Ikea = EYE-KEY-AH

If I'm wrong someone please correct me.

correct

i - sound as in he

e - sound as in bed

a - sound as in hah

[timtiminy]

wheruatsuk: no problem, i thought it it could help, you should take some pictures of it for us, perhaps some pictures of the internal workings, i am crazy interested in the mechanics of this thing.

[whereda40at]

im not impressed by it. just removes the H pattern. big deal. now having a dog box is cool. lol

ill keep my dog bog and my H pattern. why? because i like it.

here is my g-force t-5 dogbox trans in my 240. i have other videos of the trans in my youtube page.

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[wheruatsuk]

thx for stoppen by

[ROUGE180]

Talk to these guys, They are who I use for a local contact.

Good relationship w/ PPG.

Welcome to Andrewtech Automotive Online - The Premier Facility for Performance-Minded Subaru and Import Owners (http://www.andrewtechautomotive.com/)

PM me your email and I'll send you the latest price list :bow:

=)

hah.. they are about 12 min from me. 2 people I knew used to work there and I've seen some seriously sick cars come out of their bays. They are legit for sure.

[WagDatto]

Any pics of the dime? I'm down with swapped 510's, obviously... I'd never have thought of a Ikeya in mine, though! Let meh sees it!!

[David Steele]

The shifter is a novel idea but practicality has gone out the window. You are still clutching in and out when using the shifter and when you want to get to neutral you have to always slap it down the gears.

Ikeya shifter = not worth it

The purpose isn't to eliminate the clutch it's shift consistency do you have anyidea when a vehicle changes gear the power must be cut from an engine ? Obviously not.

not worth it..........in a street car. This was meant so you would never miss a gearchange. I say peace of mind of not blowing your engine die to a miss shift is worth the price of this thing.

I love how people rock welded diffs and stripped interiors on the street but they will bitch about having to row the gears for neutral and still use a clutch

Thats funny the demonstration videos use street cars as demo cars, you can still miss a gear with this. Your hating 2 cents aren't needed.

They have a button you can hit while moving the shifter and get neutral.

pwn
I think the shit is ugly. If I didn't want to row through he gears I would just ger a real sequential transmission.
Who buys a car and goes omg that shifter is ugly? It's a SEQUENTIAL SHIFTER not a transmission.

Wait, what's the point of this shit if you still have to use the clutch??

H pattern vs Forward/Backward motion which is = consistency

Now lets say he bought a a straight cut gear set for $4500 and he uses shift ign cut. He STILL doesn't pay 10+ k for a sequential gear box.


How about this ass hat, why don't you want to put in a full sequential tranny?

If you don't want an opinion don't post on a public forum, and remember to take what people say with a grain of salt. The reality is that shifter is a little to much for the street. Is it still a cool part? Yes.

It's made for a street car, tell me one reason that makes that a race only part? Lets see your sequential racing gear box.

[zugoi]

Yeah i know there is 6 bolts. But to install the shifter they do not need to come out. Only 4 need to come out. and then put back in to hold the ikeya in place. The other two are a biotch to get to. Hell even the 4 he will have to remove arent easy.

wtf you talking about. you need to take all 6 bolts out to take the whole shifter assembly out. How would taking out only four be enough to take off the shifter plate when there are six bolts holdin it down.

[repda916]

QZ0L-hkSMlY

[wheruatsuk]

WagDat: ill send you some pix the car is still in storage right now probably gonna start working on it during the holidays. Ive been collecting parts for about 13yrs now. I did this conversion about 15yrs ago when everyone was talking shit. why dont you just go with a 13B. This was back in the days when V-Spec was around. Once i get some pix ill send them to you.

Zugoi: really its only 4 bolts that hold the shifter on the plate not 6.

David: thx for the back up!

[timtiminy]

wheruatsuk: you think you can post some pictures of the shifter itself, i would love to see the internal workings of this piece to better understand how it converts the H pattern to the squential movement. Thanks!

[wheruatsuk]

timtiminy: no problem check your pm ill send you some!

[neverrain]

Zugoi: really its only 4 bolts that hold the shifter on the plate not 6.


What? You need to remove ALL 6 bolts to get the original shift plate out. This is a royal pain in the ass yes, the two under the floor are possible to get off without jacking the car, I can vouch for that. Putting them back on is a bit harder. I only managed to get 5 back on and tightened because I didn't have a set of those flex head wrenches to get around the tranny from under. One side is possible without. The other you need a flex head wrench, unless you have some other creative tool.

And yes. The four accessible bolts from inside the car are probably all that's needed to hold it in place (make sure you use RTV!), but why half ass it?

[wheruatsuk]

neverrain: sorry didnt really look at the pix above of the older unit. I have the New Version ill post a pic of it. Sorry about that. well on this shifter you dont need to take the plate off. all you do is take the shifter out and the 4 bolts towards the rear of the tranny out and they supply a plate that bolts to the 4 bolts then the shifter bolts to the supplied mounting plate. send me your email and ill send you the manual!

here's a pic of how my shifter gets installed:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/wheruat/ikeyashifter.png

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/wheruat/th_ikeyashiftermountpic.png (http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/wheruat/?action=view&current=ikeyashiftermountpic.png)

[g6civcx]

You still have to use the clutch every time you shift.


If you want to get technical, it is possible to shift helical gears without using the clutch. It's hard to do and you have to revmatch perfectly, but it is possible.

Stop-and-go is difficult, but once you're moving it's not as bad.

Using the clutch is more mechanical sympathy than an absolute necessity.

[neverrain]

neverrain: sorry didnt really look at the pix above of the older unit. I have the New Version ill post a pic of it. Sorry about that. well on this shifter you dont need to take the plate off. all you do is take the shifter out and the 4 bolts towards the rear of the tranny out and they supply a plate that bolts to the 4 bolts then the shifter bolts to the supplied mounting plate. send me your email and ill send you the manual!

here's a pic of how my shifter gets installed:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/wheruat/ikeyashifter.png

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/wheruat/th_ikeyashiftermountpic.png (http://s100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/wheruat/?action=view&current=ikeyashiftermountpic.png)

Yea, that shifter is different than the B&M I put in. I never liked those shfter types because you still need to use the original plate. The B&M has a nice beefy plate on it. Plus its blue. Cmon. Blue!

[RicerX]

doesn't mad mike's FD have this thingie-majob?

[Dousan_PG]

yeah it does
and probably a PPG gearbox as well

[sillyvia13]

wow for price that a easy ass install, like 5 mins,
can you take apart for me?
so I can see inside and make one?
lmao

no way its that crazy to make...
lol...
sits and waits for a your nuts... I aint taking aprt.

[wheruatsuk]

yah install isnt that bad. there are a few washers that you need to install on the side of the tranny too that help with the shifting. i just want to make sure i install it right!

here some pix:
http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m25/wheruat/ikeyasidepix.png

[wheruatsuk]

PM replied too!! thx

[DatSlidewayz]

hey sorry to bring back a thread from the dead, but any of the posters her still on zilvia?? i need a huge favor.. I need the height in mm (as accurate as possible) of the base for the shifter.. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7401/9030826884_9e82c7f5fe_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9030826884/)
shifter (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/9030826884/) by rarytas (http://www.flickr.com/people/[email protected]/)
Mine is 61mm on the tall side -___-

Also.. I need the thickness of the washers for transmission, also i need to know if the bracket for the sr20 trans has a slant in it. this one has a slant..


Why? - i bought this shifter used from 9k Racing and it is for a diff transmission, but still 5 speed. I need to get my machine shop to mill a base for me. i need the height, they will base the rest on my existing piece.

PLEASE HELP! PM ME anyone that has this shifter. (if no1 answers in a week or so, ill post a new thread, sorry mods)

[Croustibat]

You DO know these are crap and kill gearboxes, do you ?

[240boi115]

You DO know these are crap and kill gearboxes, do you ?

but... racecar man!

[DatSlidewayz]

im under the impression that if you get it dialed in correctly it wont destroy ur gearbox. theres a 3 adjustments you can mess with and im sure if one is off you will destroy sincros & more.. neway, anyone got this measurement for me?????

[FaLKoN240]

im under the impression that if you get it dialed in correctly it wont destroy ur gearbox. theres a 3 adjustments you can mess with and im sure if one is off you will destroy sincros & more.. neway, anyone got this measurement for me?????

OH yeah?! COOL. Thanks for bumping a 5 year old thread for your OPINION.

[DJ 21o3]

Wasnt he just asking a question? lol better than creating a new thread

[92SEric240sx]

I didn't know ikea made shifters, harharhar
:ddog:

[!Zar!]

That shifter is a pile of trash.

[Croustibat]

im under the impression that if you get it dialed in correctly it wont destroy ur gearbox. theres a 3 adjustments you can mess with and im sure if one is off you will destroy sincros & more.. neway, anyone got this measurement for me?????

It will destroy it, either because they are impossible to dial it correctly, because it will develop play (if it hasnt already), or because you think you got a real dog box sequential gearbox and try to slam it into gears. It sucks because you get somewhat the motion of a sequential, but you are still driving those aweful slow synchros, meaning you cant use a dog box sequential motion.

The OEM gearbox is slow, you wont change that with a shifter, thats all there is to know.

[DatSlidewayz]

OH yeah?! COOL. Thanks for bumping a 5 year old thread for your OPINION.

yea i was asking for a mesurement, but thanks anyway. btw AWESOME, caps LOCk power BRO.

That shifter is a pile of trash.

noted.

yet im stil gonna :coold: until my trans blows up.

:lockd:

[Croustibat]

That is where you are wrong. You wont look cool with it, you will look like a wanabe tuner who installed what he believe is a trendy piece, when everyone knows it is a piece of crap. You will even look more stupid when using it. I cant wait to see your face once you get the motion needed to operate it :D

Nothing screams RICE more than that really. Well except plywood aero.

[59bhp]

yea i was asking for a mesurement, but thanks anyway. btw AWESOME, caps LOCk power BRO.



noted.

yet im stil gonna :coold: until my trans blows up.

:lockd:

have you tried mocking it up on the car and measuring the difference in height between the bottom of the shifter and where it needs to be?

i.e. measure how much taller your shifter is than it needs to be relative to the bottom of the shifter and where it sits in the gearbox.

probably only way your going to get an answer, when people on here dont know something they tend to just go of on one to make up for it, instead of adding some constructive.

[indoz33]

ballin in a budget 240sx =] i still think its cool tho! i wouldn't daily it...