Check please!!!

[Phlip]

From:
A Belle in Brooklyn: FW: Forward (http://abelleinbrooklyn.blogspot.com/2008/12/fw-forward.html)

-- MY DATE LAST NIGHT ---

When I did my taxes this year I found out that I spent over $14,000 on Dates last year. Most of that was spent on dinner and drinks in Manhattan. Now don't get me wrong, I had some very good times, some great sex, some good conversations. Hell, I even made a good friend along the way, but mainly I came away from the date feeling extremely disappointed and with a lighter wallet. Date by date it's not THAT much money but it all adds up fast!

In the past I had a habit of always grabbing the check and paying whether my date was hot or not. Whether we clicked or not. Basically I felt ashamed to let her pay. I also kept and interesting statistic and ev en I was surprised that only 5% of my dates even offered to pay - yes you see that right- 5%! One girl in the entire year offered to pay for the entire check. A very nice gesture. But of course I paid and doubt she was sincere. In light of all this evidence I knew I had to change some things. So, this year.....

I DECIDED TO NEVER PAY FOR A FIRST DATE AGAIN. How did I do this? First adopted the mindset that a girl should naturally assume she's paying for herself. Now this wasn't easy at first but I quickly got used to it. Then when going into the bar/restaurant/lounge etc. I would hand the server a credit card and ask them to open tabs for us. HEY!-Did you catch that? I said 'TABS.' Yah, don't worry at least 95% of the girls I meet miss that one too. Just to make sure I usually confirm that the server has understood me too. I do this when the date rudely answers her cell phone or is in the bathroom (probably using her cell phone). Guys, you know the Mastercard "priceless" serie s of commercials? Well, let me tell you, you won't understand the meaning of 'priceless' until you see one of these girls handed their own check for 3 20$ martinis and overpriced food (that they would probably never buy on their own). It's also very relaxing to encourage the girl to eat and drink up because even at 20$ a pop for exotic gooey blender drinks I could care less how many of them she has - cause SHE'S PAYING.

Oddly enough when she realizes that there are individual bills there will a few prolonged moments of discomfort. But don't panic. Something that took me by surprise is how many girls suddenly have to 'go to an ATM'. I can't quite figure out if it's because their cc's are maxed out on shoe purchases or that they are trying to guilt me into paying. Well, probably a combination of both, but I'm remorseless after doing this for nearly 3 months now. Which brings me to my date last night...... omg.....

Of course the classy nice Irish pub I suggested w asn't good enough for her. Nah...she needed to go somewhere more trendy. Ok, no problem. W? Hudson? Meatpacking Dist? SoHo? Where we going? So she picks a midtown hotel bar. Nice place. Little stuffy. Drinks, not bad and Macadamia nuts on the lounge tables (complimentary) nice! Of course I went thru my usual routine, handed the server a credit card asked her if we can start tabs she said, 'sure' and took the card. 1 drink in her cell phone rang. She apologized, (she had to get it). So I moved into confirmation mode. Our waitress even missed the 'tabs' part but she adjusted on the fly and told me no problem. Boy, let me tell you - the girl i was with could really throw down the drinks. She was drinking scotch that was older than the hotel we were in. Of course I encouraged her the whole way. She was like, wow they have Johnny Walker BLUE label! I was like, 'you ever try it?' She's like....'Nooooooo!!!' I'm like, 'go on....just get some'. She's like 'are you sure'. I'm like, 'look, if you want it, just get it!' So she ordered one, then another, and finally one more..... wow she was probably more than a little drunk. I stuck to my Stoli and a splash of Cran.

When the BILL(S) came she sobered up fast. I caught a glimpse of hers, 5 drinks plus a little finger food $319.00 I think it was. She looked shocked and sick to her stomach when she saw 2 bills. Guess she thought I was buying. Think again. (The old me woulda soaked up the bill but steered her away from the Blue) I had 4 drinks, no food and a great buzz. Pricey Stoli, but overall still a good value (i ate a ton of free macadamias and almond ds) $36.00. Damn I thought, that BLUE label will get you every time. Of course she did more than the traditional fumble through her purse. Her face was beat red and she was speechless. She left the bill on the table and excused herself for the restroom. I had already paid and was sucking on some ice. The waitress was looking concerned. I told her, 'look'. Sure enough my date was heading out toward the front door. I slowly grabbed my coat as the waitress ran after her. Then security or a bellman grabbed her at the door and a small shouting match ensued. Can you imagine, she was trying to leave - without paying!

Well, I didn't stick around to see what happened. All I saw was the poor waitress standing just inside the front door with a small coctail tray. she did look concerned but not panicked. A doorman and bell hop had the girl by the arm, outside and was semi-forcing her back inside, she wasn't getting away from this bill. I paid my bill. I had my receipt. But I couldn' t help wondering why she ordered 3 Johnny Walker Blues, doesn't she know that shit is expensive? Then I wondered if they had to arrest her while I had another drink at my local Irish pub.

I haven't heard from her again. Too bad, she was pretty cute too...


I died just reading this, it was CLASSIC!!!

[Sleepy240]

ROFL that whole story is priceless! I might have to bust that out sometime, I like how he encourages her to drink at the end to kind up the bill ROFL

[CrimsonRockett]

Buahahahahahahaha.

I'm glad my GF offers to pay the bill from time to time no matter where we're at.

[Phlip]

Buahahahahahahaha.

I'm glad my GF offers to pay the bill from time to time no matter where we're at.

:stupid:
That is the way shit should be.
I mean, we NEVER go dutch, but I am never expected to pay for every time we go out either.

[DALAZ_68]

and i thought my date bills last year was bad...LOL

this is how it should be...never assue, especially when u dont knwo the person

[stiizy]

Damn that was funny as hell....

Girls always assume that the guy has it covered hahaha....

[Daniel.]

lol!

well when you find out you're spending 14k a year on bullshit dates you gotta start making the girls pay too.

[RaceBred 17]

We should all do this to a girl at least once in the new year.

[sillyvia13]

hahahah niceeeeeeeee
I think i may be going out, I aint trying to pick up a wife, but a REAL good laugh would be nice on a daily basis.

oh man.
posi rep for the date dude!

[DALAZ_68]

We should all do this to a girl at least once in the new year.
i have...fuck that i have to pay everytime B.S.

they wanted equal rights...well guess what...SURPRISE

[azndoc]

Seriously sometimes women just take that shit for granted.

I mean I was brought up knowing that when taking girls out I'm suppose to pay.

But fuck women aren't made the way that they used to be made. Classic, manners, and common fucking sense.

Oh well.

[stiizy]

^^ Here Here Bro i feel the exact same way and was brought up like that too

[Daniel.]

Seriously sometimes women just take that shit for granted.

I mean I was brought up knowing that when taking girls out I'm suppose to pay.

But fuck women aren't made the way that they used to be made. Classic, manners, and common fucking sense.

Oh well.

amen.

i was raised the same way. it's hard to break old habits.

[enkei2k]

that's why all my dates consist of dollar menus at fast food restaurants. haha i kid i kid...to an extent.

[Future240]

Buahahahahahahaha.

I'm glad my GF offers to pay the bill from time to time no matter where we're at.

Hell yea to that johnny, me and my girl are going out tonight, and best believe she is payin for herself. Sometimes she pays for me, sometimes I pay for her, just the way things should be.


That is the way shit should be.
I mean, we NEVER go dutch, but I am never expected to pay for every time we go out either.

Why dont yall go dutch, or better yet she pays for you sometimes?

Seriously sometimes women just take that shit for granted.

I mean I was brought up knowing that when taking girls out I'm suppose to pay.

But fuck women aren't made the way that they used to be made. Classic, manners, and common fucking sense.

Oh well.

I understand that, my grandfather instilled those values as well. But some females of today take those values for granted.

I kind of know how the guy feels, chasing women, I blew like 500 hundred he summer before I went to college. May not seem like much but when you are working at fast food and 18 yea that hurts.

[Phlip]

Why dont yall go dutch, or better yet she pays for you sometimes?


No, I am saying that we don't go dutch in that we don't do the "I'll cover my own and you cover yours," when we go, one of us will pay for both of us, but I am not ALWAYS the one to have to pay.

[stiizy]

^^ Go Dutch you down south guys kill me with that... hahaha....

[Future240]

No, I am saying that we don't go dutch in that we don't do the "I'll cover my own and you cover yours," when we go, one of us will pay for both of us, but I am not ALWAYS the one to have to pay.

Oh okay, only reason me and my girl go dutch is sometimes,(like tonight) we can't afford to pay for each other.

[VIPDRFT]

So much for "Ms. Independent".

[ESmorz]

I've only payed for 3-5 dates in my life.

Get em young, get em rich. As far as I'm concerned most women aren't worth my money.

[stiizy]

So much for "Ms. Independent".

Seriously........

most chicks swear they don't need you for shit, but when it comes down to it they aint shit without us...

[Daniel.]

Seriously........

most chicks swear they don't need you for shit, but when it comes down to it they aint shit without us...

i've come to realize this very same thing over the past few years.

life is one big hypocritical cynical joke.

i say :lfault:

[Future240]

^^ Go Dutch you down south guys kill me with that... hahaha....

How so? Wazup with goin dutch?

[stiizy]

How so? Wazup with goin dutch?

Nah it's just a funny phrase i remember a few of my boys came up from ATL and they kept sating that about shit...

It mean like split it right??

I just think of the accents when i see or hear the word and it cracks me up

[Phlip]

Nah it's just a funny phrase i remember a few of my boys came up from ATL and they kept sating that about shit...

It mean like split it right??

I just think of the accents when i see or hear the word and it cracks me up

Funny, is that I heard it more on television and other places than I EVER have in regular life. No one around here actually says it, it is just fewer words to type than "make that bitch pay for it herself," which makes a coherent and still correctly worded and spelled forum post easier.

[ericcastro]

After the first 2 dates, she should be picking up her share, or going every other.

Shit, she should get parking on the first date as a gesture of appriciation for us guys following old dating rules.

[S13SilviaGirl]

Hahaha that is AWESOME. I always went and expected to pay my half. If it isn't something I would buy on my own, I don't order it. Don't get me wrong, I like nice food (Ruth's Chris in HK for one) but, I wouldn't order something extraordinary just because I was on a date... just not a cool thing to do.

[txrxs]

she should get parking on the first date

http://www.la2day.com/files/u228/george_mcfly_0.jpg
Get your damn hands off of her.

[DUFFM4N]

i love it that my girl offers to cover the bill sometimes as well....but what sucks is, we share the same bank account :wtc:

[Future240]

Nah it's just a funny phrase i remember a few of my boys came up from ATL and they kept sating that about shit...

It mean like split it right??

I just think of the accents when i see or hear the word and it cracks me up

Yea she pays hers and you pay yours. Accent, pfft the NY accent is hilarious

[Daniel.]

i love it that my girl offers to cover the bill sometimes as well....but what sucks is, we share the same bank account :wtc:

haha!!!

....

wait...
:naw:
:duh:

[Future240]

haha!!!

....

wait...
:naw:
:duh:

Ha ha invisi rep for you sir

[drift freaq]

Honestly when I started dating it was like women went out of their way to pay half, it was all part of the woman's lib thing. Then something strange happened around 2000 all these girls started expecting guys to pay all the shit. I had to put my foot down with Aya once because she just wanted to go from one club to another club to another club at an average of $15-20 a person just to get in the door. I was like hell no. You want to go to another club you pay to get us in. I was also jaded because the first club I had a hook up for and usually never paid to go into clubs. Hell run a club in a major city for a number of years and you won't want to pay to get into any clubs either. lol You wind up knowing everyone so you get comp'd. of course I was no longer in the business and I was in LA when this happened.
I honestly think LA women expect men to pay, more than like women in SF, who tend to be more liberal anyways.

[DUFFM4N]

ive always been brought up, that if you're inviting someone to dinner...you pay

and if they invite you to dinner...they pay or at least offer to help with the check

[WISH ONE]

^^ I feel you on that...I don't feel right letting girls pay for my things especially strangers...although it all depends on attitude IMO. My girl tries to contribute from time to time, but her situation isn't as good as mine so I take care of her most of the time, makes me feel better. If I were single, maybe a different story. Humiliating Gold Digging girls seems like blast.

[stiizy]

i love it that my girl offers to cover the bill sometimes as well....but what sucks is, we share the same bank account :wtc:

i know what you mean i get paid every week and my girl gets paid every month so she'll always be like oh i'll pay...

So then thats how my money depletes

[Farzam]

I hate girls that expect everything on a silver plate...
WHAT DO YOU BRING TO THE TABLE?

[stiizy]

I hate girls that expect everything on a silver plate...
WHAT DO YOU BRING TO THE TABLE?

They bring that Ass and think that's good enough :keke: :keke:

i wish i was playing when i said that but sadly it's true

[kingkilburn]

Eddie Murphy said it best WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY.

[stiizy]

Eddie Murphy said it best WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY.


Funny shit..

JvuF1gUS0DE

[Gnnr]

^HALF! haha, classic.

You always notice that waiters always hand the bill to the guy at the end. They always assume the guy is paying. lol.

Just wanna be clear. If you say tell them to open Tabs they're supposed to automatically know its one for each individual at the table? The same as saying split bills/checks?

ive always been brought up, that if you're inviting someone to dinner...you pay

and if they invite you to dinner...they pay or at least offer to help with the check

Yeah, I was thought that too. But it all depends on how you word it. If you specifically say, "Hey, I want to take you to Dinner". That's an invitation. If you say, "Hey, wanna go grab something to eat?" That's NOT an invitation. If you agree to that question, your paying for yourself.

[S13SilviaGirl]

ive always been brought up, that if you're inviting someone to dinner...you pay

and if they invite you to dinner...they pay or at least offer to help with the check

That is very true. It seems like our society is lacking in the manners department....or did we just do away with manners all together? I may be out of the loop...

[ericcastro]

I always pay at the begining of relationships.
I just appriciate her offering to get the popcorn and soda, or the valet.
If she dont, she probably wont unlock my door after I let her in her side (bronxs tale anyone :))
so she won't be around long anyways.
Im looking for a partner, not someone selfish.

i have manners, raised by a single mom most of the time. hold doors, walk on traffic side of road, sit second, napkin on lap and hat off when women are present.

But dating can get expensive!!!!! I have to stop asking for numbers cause i cant afford to take anyone out :( lol

[DUFFM4N]

Yeah, I was thought that too. But it all depends on how you word it. If you specifically say, "Hey, I want to take you to Dinner". That's an invitation. If you say, "Hey, wanna go grab something to eat?" That's NOT an invitation. If you agree to that question, your paying for yourself.

well yeah, but if its a formal invitation like "hey, would you like to join me/us for dinner on (wutever day) at (whatever restaurant) "

obviously we know the difference if you're being invited to carl's jr

[ESmorz]

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[thefro526]

Video made me lol.....

Like it sucks for me cuz I'm still in HS and I actually make decent money ($13/h vs. ~$7-8/h) so all the girls I talk to think I'll spoil them or something. My rule is they ask for something then I won't get it but if they want it but don't ask for something then they I'll buy it for them.

What I hate the most is when a chick will call me up and say hey you wanna hang and I'll ne like sure and in the end I basically get suckered into paying for her to hang with her friends or some shit like that. I've gotten good with my phrasing though so I've been able to talk my way out of stuff like this as of late.

[ESmorz]

^Man I knew the girls like that. I got suckered into doing it once, but at the end I was just like what... I spent all my money on gas getting over here. Got my meal payed for.

Also breaking up with girls before their birthday and Christmas is convenient too.

[Farzam]

I always break up w girls before my bday or xmas

Idk why

Like one year this girl was gonna get me project mu pedals, a nice shift knob, and a nice case for my bass, but I broke up with her literally as she ordered the stuff. Maybe i'm just stupid, cause I totally wanted that shit, but I couldn't bare dating her.

[Bubbles]

I've broke up with very few girls.

Something about never answering their calls and getting drunk with my friends on the weekends seems to give them initiative.

[40daws]

Thanks Philip, I needed that laugh !!

[logik23]

He says 1 girl paid in the whole year and that makes 5%.

Which means he went on 20 dates.

He said he spent 14k on dates.

He spent 700$ average per date? Is that how much a hooker is these days? Or was I going to all the cheap 100$ meal places when I went to NYC?

[ericcastro]

I spend about $80-$150 when I go on dates.
Figure dinner in LA, 2 people-$40plus
parking-$10
drinks for 2-$12-$24
Me Driving, 20 minutes to her house, 20 to restraunt.blah blah
Pink Berry or some shit-$12
Add a movie/bowling/dancing or more than one drink. and thats the low end dinner.

At least girls give it up by 3 dates these days :) Makes the money worth it even if she aint the one, lol.

[Future240]

They bring that Ass and think that's good enough :keke: :keke:

i wish i was playing when i said that but sadly it's true

Bull shit, no ass is that good.

[C. Senor]

lol. that shit is awesome.

i honestly only know 1 girl that doesn't like having a guy pay for her and always offers to atleast pay for herself. which was cool cuz for instance, we went out yesterday. dinner, movie, bar, and more food. roughly 140 or so. but i didnt pay for all of it.

i'm like most of you guys. with the old school rules. but if the girl doesnt follow those old schools rules too, i throw them suckers out and follow new school rules where you're a total dick. girls, and people in general, are very rude and feel they are entitled to anything and everything. sigh.

[mrflip69]

He says 1 girl paid in the whole year and that makes 5%.


Correction: *OFFERED* to pay, and he wasn't sure she was sincere. ROFL.

Anyway, the 14k probably includes Broadway, Concerts, nice shit like that.

This story reminds me of that one with the Jewish guy. LOL not being a prick either--search, some woman went on a blind date through jdate.com

Cliffs: He took the girl out, got the impression they would have another date so he paid the whole bill. When she wouldn't give him another date, it was sux4u time and he wanted his money back--ahahaah.

He wouldn't let it go either, and left multiple messages on her voicemail (which she posted online), maybe threatened legal action I think? I kinda felt for the guy--teases suck, and she shouldn't have led him on. Maybe he read her signals wrong too? Either way, she played him. I don't remember if he ever got his money back.

So many people were shit talking him too, but if I didn't have any shame, I'd have done the same thing lol. Ah well--small price to pay right?

...I don't think the bill was extremely exorbitant either.

[Agamemnon]

I knew a couple of girls from my past that would go on dates just to get a free meal.

[azndoc]

Well I've always thought of it like this.

If its so much trouble taking out a girl and paying for $75 dinner, $45 movie plus popcorn/drinks, and $100 in drinks.

Wouldn't it just be easier looking up the erotic section of CL?

You pay and get laid and that's that.

I guess sometimes its a very fine line when it comes down to it.

[stiizy]

He says 1 girl paid in the whole year and that makes 5%.

Which means he went on 20 dates.

He said he spent 14k on dates.

He spent 700$ average per date? Is that how much a hooker is these days? Or was I going to all the cheap 100$ meal places when I went to NYC?

100 dollar meals in NYC hahaha......

I wish i rack up more than that on drinks for myself....

But if your with a down to earth chick..

I know alot of cheap good food spots

Chinatown, Lil Italy, Lil Korea, Lil Brazil, or even in Soho if you know a few things you can get a bangin meal and drinks for like 60...

Also alot of Spanish food places sell Nutcrackers which is good cause one fucks you up for 8 bucks and then eating some arroz con dules y habichuela
for like 12 bucks and you got yourself a great meal and got fucked up for like 40 bucks

[Phlip]

Well I've always thought of it like this.

If its so much trouble taking out a girl and paying for $75 dinner, $45 movie plus popcorn/drinks, and $100 in drinks.

Wouldn't it just be easier looking up the erotic section of CL?

You pay and get laid and that's that.

I guess sometimes its a very fine line when it comes down to it.

That fine line also includes a trip to a clinic.

[stiizy]

That fine line also includes a trip to a clinic.

Word i aint trying to pay for the HIV or any other VD/STD