Ebay headers?

[Dfigga]

what do you guys think about BBP 4-2-1 headers for ka24e? legit or nehhhh? anyone try em?

[wgJoY]

link?





http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-1990-NISSAN-240SX-S13-SOHC-KA24-EXHAUST-HEADER-BBP_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2 Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3 a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem 370123007690QQitemZ370123007690QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5 fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

this one?

[projectRDM]

what do you guys think about BBP 4-2-1 headers for ka24e? legit or nehhhh? anyone try em?

Less weight, frees up power, if it fits it couldn't hurt.

[Icy13]

lets see.... 100 bucks free shipping, and it is pretty hard to fuck up pipes so..... buy that shit, and let us know. Couldn't hurt as ^^ said.

[LA_phantom_240]

lets see.... 100 bucks free shipping, and it is pretty hard to fuck up pipes so..... buy that shit, and let us know. Couldn't hurt as ^^ said.

I thought it was hard to fuck up a silencer....


Yeah, you can fuck up pipes.

[wgJoY]

unless it doesnt fit up.

My brother had purchased a egay header for his Teggy a little while ago.

It was $100 shipped, ended up picking it up at their place of business to save a couple bucks, drove home and tried it on.. ends up it didnt line up, needed to weld/cut/realign blah blah.

Then again. It is $100,

Do sohc's have the cat in the downpipe or is that only with dohcs?

because otherwise you wont be running a cat :cops:

[Devil Man]

wow did obx the undercuter just get undercut... haha

honestly that looks just like the obx one which works ok so why not i would for that price.

[projectRDM]

Do sohc's have the cat in the downpipe or is that only with dohcs?

because otherwise you wont be running a cat :cops:

Only S14s have the converter in the downpipe.

[handinpants]

Do it and post a review

[BustedS13]

*crack*

then again, the hotshot ones were known for cracking, so who cares

go get 'em

[jakerps13]

Had one way back in the day. O2 was clocked and wire rubbed on firewall. Pipe was also really close to the floor. Not saying they haven't revised it though. All in all it needed some massaging, but you can hardly buy the material for the price of the whole part.

[Bigsyke]

I have one waiting at home, it will be going in tomorrow! 10* weather will not stop me.

And yes you probably should get a flex pipe regardless of engine mounts...and a highflow in place of the s14's fake cat.

[CIutchCollidE]

sweet... get a review going for it

[CrimsonRockett]

After owning an OBX header for my S13 for a couple months, I hated it.

Quality sucked, very raspy, shit brown color also sucks(it won't stay polished for long), fitment wasn't great.

Now, running a DC sports header. Definitely a difference.

I would say save up and go with something better, but not a lot of people are willing to drop $400 for a DC Sports header now a days.

Your car. Your money.

[C. Senor]

they dont make dc headers for single cams johnny. i would have gone with one of those for my old one. i had hotshot on my sohc. it worked damn great. but now that i'm dohc dc is the shit. i how ever don't think either dc nor hotshot are still in production for our cars.

[Matej]

My Ebay header is awesome, I love it.

[silviachik420]

i bought a eGay header a while back for my 510 when i swaped in the ka24de

and i was soo happy with the thick flanges and that thing cleared my steering box soo awesome think i got pics around somewhere of it

but yeah i only paid like 80 plus 40 shipping was not bad at all


but johnny is right about one thing FINALLY!!!! the only problem i had was it did not stay polished for too long

[Matej]

Mine turned gold, with some hints of blue.

Gold is way cooler than polished.

[CrimsonRockett]

they dont make dc headers for single cams johnny. i would have gone with one of those for my old one. i had hotshot on my sohc. it worked damn great. but now that i'm dohc dc is the shit. i how ever don't think either dc nor hotshot are still in production for our cars.

I failed at reading.

I used to run a Hotshot header in my old single cam.

Bought it new(long before they closed up Hotshot).

I loved the quality. Never had any problems with it.

A quick google search brings up several stores that still carry DC Sports headers.

But, yeah. Several people run ebay headers. Hit or miss.

[honeybadger]

Cheap ebay headers are usually a hit or a miss.. so you'll end up getting a great deal or a complete piece of trash.

[90hatchie]

i got one
the 02 sensor hits the firewall
other then that its decent
got it as a temp thing till my rb comes :-)

[C. Senor]

A quick google search brings up several stores that still carry DC Sports headers.

But, yeah. Several people run ebay headers. Hit or miss.

that's good to know, if for some reason mine break.

but i say you can always try it. it's either save up and do it big, or just try it and hope for the best.

[jonnybonds84]

I'm about to gamble on ebay, Im going to buy the CAI too, i'll post up some reviews on those.

[PBucch]

do it up!


msglength

[Bigsyke]

My Ebay header is awesome, I love it.


Me 2!!!! I got the Xtune one, pretty good quality.

only problem is the flange, you cant mate it up to a 3" testpipe else it will leak.

[tramp_drift240]

i had an OBX on my single cam and i thought it was pretty decent. like someone said, the O2 sensor hit the firewall, but i just dented the firewall in a bit to clear.

and mine turned gold and blue as well. which i like way more than just polished silvery lameness.

just dont ever buy pacesetter. ever.

[DeadlyZ33]

Definitely hit or miss. I've seen several ebay headers for the Z that cracked in less than a year (and installing z33 headers is NOOOOOT fun)

You never know how good the welds will come out. try looking up the name of the company that makes them and find reviews. I bought my t-pro test pipes for my z for like $80 shipped and they are the same pipes some companies sold for 300$. There are deals to be had.

[HS13KLS]

my buddy has on on his s14.. and i dont think he thinks its that bad.

didnt make the car sound any different. or make it much faster i dont think.

[tramp_drift240]

im fairly sure i could feel some bottom end response. not an incredible amount of power or anything, but it wasnt the same.

i cant comment on sound changes though, since when i swapped in the OBX, i also gutted my cat.

[Bigsyke]

If you can assure your exhaust system is leak free, and also weld a flex pipe to the collector flange, then I highly recommend these header's.

The crack because there is no flex in the system

[zeitgeist]

been running the OBX header on my SOHC for 3 years now. No problems(except like mentioned above about the firewall and the EGR doesnt line up perfect) and it sounds great

[Dfigga]

thanks alot guys for helpin me out, i should be getting them in next week, ill see if i could post a review with some pics.

[Matej]

only problem is the flange, you cant mate it up to a 3" testpipe else it will leak.
That happens with pretty much any header, no matter what brand. Mine stopped leaking after I switched to a paper gasket in the size of the header, which is 2.75" I believe, instead of the 3" graphite one that came with the test pipe.

Also, the EGR tube is not necessary, I just cut mine off behind the motor and plugged it. I plan to get the EGR block-off plate someday.

[Bigsyke]

Heres the problem with the EGR bung, You cant use the nickle trick, because most of the times the nickle wont be flush with the concave of the bung.

Be carefull because the bung will flex very easily, I almost thought I was gonna snap it off while torqing the EGR fitting/nickle.

I then ordered the OEM nissan plug,

Now I have to fix one of the studs I snapped off flush with the head......so depressed

[Matej]

Nissan sells O2 plugs? Where can I buy a couple, are they available at dealerships?

[Bigsyke]

14052-21r00http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerofile/38594/EGRplug.jpg

14052-21r00, at least I hope so! Havent gotten the plug yet, but heres a pic

[s13pignose]

I'm about to gamble on ebay, Im going to buy the CAI too, i'll post up some reviews on those.

I gambled on the knock off of the injen intake and extension setup...the maf adapter didn't sit flush on the maf sensor and left a gap. I was pissed and sent back for refund. Also I think the paint on already started pealing before i got it on.

Just heads up. I have injen now, and have no regrets. Noticed diff in quality. Some things you can cheap out on and some you can't I guess.

[Bigsyke]

^^My ebay intake didnt even fit, not even close, the pipe was angled towards the exhaust manifold.

However these ebay header's are fantastic, thin walled, but hopefully when I get a welder I will never have an issue.

[s13pignose]

On another note...say if you don't wanna gamble on ebay header. what about just gutting the actual cat on s14, since the headers for em do away with the cat anyway right?

Whats the best way since its angled and part of downpipe. Any potential for check engine light though? Like I said s14 headers delete cat anyway?

Then again you got that open area once you got it out, might slow down exhaust flow? Don't know if it's worth it now.

hmmm....

[Bigsyke]

On another note...say if you don't wanna gamble on ebay header. what about just gutting the actual cat on s14, since the headers for em do away with the cat anyway right?

Whats the best way since its angled and part of downpipe. Any potential for check engine light though? Like I said s14 headers delete cat anyway?

Then again you got that open area once you got it out, might slow down exhaust flow? Don't know if it's worth it now.

hmmm....

Dont do it! Have you gutted a cat before? Its nearly impossible to get all the ribs out of the canister, which will only cause turbulent flow. Get a downpipe if anything, but the KA's love the 4-2-1.


Honest reccomendation is get a lincoln welder at sears for 299.99, cut the collector off, and weld in a flex pipe with a 3" flange. Weld the EGR bung shut.

Close to the price of a DC header, but you also get a welder, and unlimited repairs on your header!!!!

The OE manifold Wont crack, but if you weld in a flex to the ebay header, that wont eather!

[8Nismo9]

ever think of the DC or megan headers?plus im wondering which is better or if they are the same

[s13pignose]

Read there's some fitment issues with the megan as well, and thats a 4-1 header if I recall correct. Think I'm gonna skip gutting the cat. Though about running a 3" downpipe before from the manifold, but someone said there's no DP that will fit. Also that you can't bolt on say a catco cat on the end, cause the flange won't line up????

[DriftDamage]

I need to replace my entire exhaust system and I have to look into the headers too. I dont wanna pay much either. Does anyone know if there is a real difference with the S13 and S14 headers? Is it just the cat included in the s14? Or whats the deal. I tried searching and couldnt come up with an answer.

I ask because the ebay headers for s14 are about $100 shipped. S13 headers almost $200 shipped. Kinda a price jump.

[White Comet]

it is pretty easy to fuck up welds .my thoughts on it anyways :squintd:

[LA_phantom_240]

I need to replace my entire exhaust system and I have to look into the headers too. I dont wanna pay much either. Does anyone know if there is a real difference with the S13 and S14 headers? Is it just the cat included in the s14? Or whats the deal. I tried searching and couldnt come up with an answer.

I ask because the ebay headers for s14 are about $100 shipped. S13 headers almost $200 shipped. Kinda a price jump.
An S13 header will have an EGR, AIV, and O2 sensor port. An S14 header will have an EGR and two O2 sensor ports. As far as being able to interchange (if you're deleting emissions while you're at it), I'm pretty sure they have the same physical dimensions.

Buuuut..... quit being a cheapskate. Just get a quality piece, you'll be much happier.

[DriftDamage]

An S13 header will have an EGR, AIV, and O2 sensor port. An S14 header will have an EGR and two O2 sensor ports. As far as being able to interchange (if you're deleting emissions while you're at it), I'm pretty sure they have the same physical dimensions.

Buuuut..... quit being a cheapskate. Just get a quality piece, you'll be much happier.

See thats what im thinking... I already eliminated all of my emissions so thats not a problem.

I have to work within a budget and paying $300+ for a header is not something that will make me happier. My current exhaust set up is all jacked up and I want to replace everything so I can bolt on an exhaust. Everything is welded together atm and it sounds like horrible crap (worse than a civic!), and I cant change out exhausts. :-/
I'll put pics up later this week as I take pics in the "Post your Muffs" thread. Plus I am thinking of buying the BC Spec II and I cant bolt up the way mine is right now....


I found this.... Its a two piece header. Top + Downpipe.... Im curious, can this downpipe be used for a Turbo/SR set up later? :naughtyd:
lol... i think this might be going a lil too far for being cheap on this part haha

eBay Motors: Nissan 240SX 91-93 94 95 96 97 98 NT Header & Downpipe (item 110349269160 end time Mar-11-09 09:51:46 PDT) (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nissan-240SX-91-93-94-95-96-97-98-NT-Header-Downpipe_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c6 6Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318Q7c301Q3a0Q7c 293Q3a1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhash Zitem110349269160QQitemZ110349269160QQptZRaceQ5fCa rQ5fParts)

[warumono]

Ive used an ebay one and an obx. I actually perfer the ebay one, fitment was better.

[s13pignose]

hmmm...lol how much better..like egr and firewall?

[Dream240]

I just recently ordered the ebay header for my S14. I'll post up a write up on it and a new CATCO CAT once I get the parts in.

I've owned Hotshot before, great power results, crappy fitment. I had to grind down the steering knuckle a bit to get it to clear the header on turns. And the CAT flange was warped, had to use an extra gasket to seal it.

I've also had this problem with some aftermarket CATs. Magnaflow and Random Technologies (WAY overpriced junk IMO).

The best setup so far I've found is, stock header(S13), CATCO 2.5" inlet/outlet CAT, and HKS NA catback exhaust. Good sound, good fitment, noticeable performance gains.

The trick is to try to stay with the same size inlet/outlet on each piece. Keeps the turbulence down, and flow up.

Also on the ebay intakes, I bought one once for my old 97', was able to custom fit it for my current 95'. Only thing that was dumb was the CAE piping. NOT EVEN CLOSE TO FITTING THE CAR WITHOUT SOME SERIOUS CUTTING. I had to cut away my own hole to fit the piping in the car. Good news if I ever decide to go turbo. Half the intercooler piping work is done!!

I'll post up a review once I get the parts installed.

[warumono]

obx, egr was fine, but it would hit the firewall. I ordered it a couple of months ago. but from what I hear that was a problem with the old obx headers.

ebay fitment was fine, but I didnt use the egr so I dont know.

[SILVIA_KIDs14.5]

what do you guys think about BBP 4-2-1 headers for ka24e? legit or nehhhh? anyone try em?
i have one for sale lol yeah i was good took it to the welding shop down the street and he said welds were good

[Chernobyl]

I had an ebay header on my S14 for a little bit. 4-2-1 style that replaced everything from the head to the dummy cat under the car.

Fitment was great, weld quality was great, sound was great, power difference was noticeable (probably mostly from getting rid of the cat). I recommend it.

KAs sound great with headers. Deep and LOUD.

[dori_sil8t]

i had an OBX on my single cam and i thought it was pretty decent. like someone said, the O2 sensor hit the firewall, but i just dented the firewall in a bit to clear.

and mine turned gold and blue as well. which i like way more than just polished silvery lameness.

just dont ever buy pacesetter. ever.

whats wrong with pacesetters? my buddy just order them ???

[LA_phantom_240]

whats wrong with pacesetters? my buddy just order them ???

They're shitty as fuck. A friend's S13 came with a pacesettter header. Horrible bastard. Bad fitment, crappy design.

I got a DC 4-2-1 used locally for $125. A header is a header as long as it's not all fucked up. I buy tons of parts like that used.

[gotspins13]

well you get what you pay for and that will be ebay stuff

[s13pignose]

Hmm might do the ebay deal...btw any of you s14 guys get a check engine light since you no longer had a cat (unless u bought one) after putting on the header?

[ms!3]

I had one of my coupe. Fit like a glove.

[jserman]

I ordered mine last week should have it soon... prob do a custom exhaust with a flex pipe so no breaky...

[DriftDamage]

Just an update. S13 & S14 Headers turned out to have same dimensions. So if anyone with an S13 was looking at the price difference on Ebay... just get the S14 ones and save $100.
I just had the EGR hole cut off and welded since I deleted that a while back, and plugged the second o2 sensor with my old one.

I replaced everything I had with the S14 XTune/Ebay 4-2-1 Header, straight test pipe, & Buddy Club Spec 2. Awesome ground clearance. All fits nicely tucked. Headers turned gold and look pretty sick!
BC2 is ridiculously loud lol

[jserman]

i got mine... haven't put it on yet welds look okay.. plan on doing a flex pip on custom exhaust so it doesn't crack...

this is the BBP one... like 90 bucks shipped on EBAY

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/Jserman/240sx/003.jpg

should have some pics of it on the motor next week.....

[blksylv]

my friend has a ebay header on his sohc, we had to hammer the hell out of it to clear the steering rack

[DriftDamage]

my friend has a ebay header on his sohc, we had to hammer the hell out of it to clear the steering rack

How long ago was the header bought? Maybe it was a flawed older design? *shrugs*

I have a DOHC so I cant compare with mine. Mine fit perfect all around.

[zenki.life]

I thought it was hard to fuck up a silencer....


Yeah, you can fuck up pipes.

haha soooo very true. no ebay anyone please(unless its namebrand). just use quality parts....unless you like fitting ebay parts on your honda.

[JRas]

I bought a used Hotshot for $50

EGR was cut... that was annoying fixing but I guess it was worth it :|

[ms!3]

looks pretty neat. this was an s14 header on my old s13. so cheap!

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/5940/083s.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=083s.jpg)

[xs240]

im just about to get one... im wondering about getting header wrap how much do u need like 50 feet? to wrap the whole thing? where and how much.. two reasons... keep engine bay temps down (especially near bmc as itll be track car) and... less noise id assume with it being taped

[LA_phantom_240]

im just about to get one... im wondering about getting header wrap how much do u need like 50 feet? to wrap the whole thing? where and how much.. two reasons... keep engine bay temps down (especially near bmc as itll be track car) and... less noise id assume with it being taped

Ceramic coated headers (AKA DC, and maybe some other brands) don't need to be wrapped, as they don't release as much heat as your cast iron or stainless manifolds. BMC isn't in harm's way unless you have a top mount setup. Of course, I can't tell you how much difference in temp the brake fluid will change (being a track car, that's important of course), but I would imagine it wouldn't be enough to worry about. Its not going to be less noisy, because unless it's made of beer cans, it will be thick enough not to make any extra noise under the hood.

Wrapping the header causes it to stay hotter longer, which can make the welds fail prematurely. They may not fail for years, but it's just something to think about. The wrap also retains moisture, which could make rust a problem.

Just some things to think about.

[98koukile]

And if you have connections, ceramic coating is cheap to do to an ebay header

[xs240]

'connections' hehe

[BoostSlideWayz]

Ive got a pare of em sitting at home. but idk what there worth now. i put like 48 miles on it. then decided to boost it. and they have been sitting out in the rain. PM if your interested

[jserman]

I did notice on my sohc ebay header the 02 bung is in a horrible location so I am going to have to have a new one put in a little lower down cause the current one is to close to the firewall....

[s13skank]

Go for it dude just a hundred bucks its kinda alot but who knows they could be pretty bad ass

[xs240]

4-2-1 dc sports = win Plus bung at near cat on rear replacing downpipe.
4-2-1 hotshot header = nice too

Pacesetter = fail

obx = okay

[toointoxicated62]

i have a a stainless steel ebay headers 4-2-1 and it doesnt clear the steering rack and the o2 sensor is a pain to try to install. I have a pacesetter 4-1 fit perfectly. but now i have a twin cam with some ebay ss headers and they fit perfect. they stole the design from hotshot