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KA-T_240
12-06-2008, 05:16 PM
Has anyone tried using this kit?

FastBrakes - Upgrade your brakes - Big brake kits - Improve your braking (http://fastbrakes.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=31&products_id=982)


Looking for feedback on this. Trying to figure out what to do for upgraded brakes for the back for my s13. I know about the z32 stuff, i am just tryin to stay away from dealin with the drum e-brake.

joefresh
12-06-2008, 05:22 PM
ehh i dunno looks kinda shitty? i have no experience with them at all.

if you have all the parts and the right cables the z32 drum setup is so easy.

projectRDM
12-06-2008, 05:27 PM
ehh i dunno looks kinda shitty? i have no experience with them at all.

if you have all the parts and the right cables the z32 drum setup is so easy.

Why do you say it looks shitty?

Fastbrakes have been around a long time, it's a good kit for the money but you will still have the issues of seizing rear calipers eventually. The main advantage to going to Z32 is to have a caliper that doesn't need constant replacement.

KA-T_240
12-06-2008, 05:33 PM
I have not had problems with my rear calipers yet on this 240. However, I did 150miles on the road course and went through a full set of pads all the way through the rivits...


I already have Z32 front brakes and am going to put Hawk HPS(possibly HP+) pads in this winter, Z32 master cylinder, and just have the stock rears with HPS pads. As I have been getting faster I am starting to lock up the fronts auto-xing so finally started researching for the backs. I also plan to go to get a bigger tire up front(235 to a 255) when I finally wear out these fronts.

joefresh
12-06-2008, 11:12 PM
Why do you say it looks shitty?

Fastbrakes have been around a long time, it's a good kit for the money but you will still have the issues of seizing rear calipers eventually. The main advantage to going to Z32 is to have a caliper that doesn't need constant replacement.

i just meant that i feel there are better solutions. im sure the quality and everything is fine.

slider2828
12-07-2008, 01:16 AM
I have that setup. Z32 Iron, with HP+ and stock rears with HPS. Z32 master cylinder is retarded..... Get a Z31, 15/16th proportioning is best with this setup. 1" is stoopid stiff...

GSXRJJordan
12-07-2008, 02:04 AM
I have that setup. Z32 Iron, with HP+ and stock rears with HPS. Z32 master cylinder is retarded..... Get a Z31, 15/16th proportioning is best with this setup. 1" is stoopid stiff...

Yeah I've got the Z32 fronts and stock rears, with the Z31 15/16ths MC. I like it. I definitely would be interested in a better rear solution though, because I still lock my fronts fairly early with Dunlop Z1's up front. I'd look for this kit used, wouldn't pay $250 for non-Z32 rears.

KA-T_240
12-07-2008, 02:23 AM
Ya, I look up my fronts way way to much when I auto-x, its bad.

Ali 556
12-07-2008, 03:15 AM
dunno,

My setup :

Front :
EVO IX caliper + Rotor.
Endless SS lines.
Ralliart Tarmac pads.

Rear :
EVO IX Caliper And Rotor (EVO Not STI).
Endless SS lines.
Endless M-Sport Pads.

pix:
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/brb-/DSC03811-1.jpg?t=1226331036
http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa64/brb-/DSC03789.jpg?t=1225826449


All that With Z32 BMC...I Like My balance and i rarley lock'em...

OP,

Lock For STI Rear caliper + EVO rotor <-- you will lose E-brakes.

OR

Z32 Rotor And STI Caliper <-- you will keep the E-brakes and have a flashey goldish caliper.

OR

Z32 Rear Brakes <-- better (bigger piston then the STI/EVO Caliper)..

Hope this help,

Regards,

Ali

slider2828
12-07-2008, 03:29 AM
Really? I never lock my fronts up and I brake hard.... I use Dunlop Direzza Z1 StarSpec and RT615s. The Starspec > RT's and I don't lock them up even in autox.... Must be a setup or turn approach error? I run 225's in the front. You might wanna tune your suspension, that helps a LOT. On the S13, I like more front bias on the height, just a tad, so during breaking zone I have more weight on the front which is crucial for the S13.

I run megan tracks so 12kg and 10kg, and middle settings for the dampening.

http://www.steve510.com/coppermine/albums/uploads/ufo13_08/run5/ufo13_run5_0073_i.jpg

http://www.steve510.com/coppermine/albums/uploads/ufo13_08/run5/ufo13_run5_0074_i.jpg

http://www.steve510.com/coppermine/albums/uploads/ufo13_08/run5/ufo13_run5_0072_i.jpg

http://www.steve510.com/coppermine/albums/uploads/ufo13_08/run5/ufo13_run5_0071_i.jpg

http://www.steve510.com/coppermine/albums/uploads/ufo13_08/run5/ufo13_run5_0070_i.jpg

I also preload the front 3 turns all around.... That helped at least on megans to have a better rebound...

http://www.steve510.com/coppermine/albums/uploads/ufo13_08/run5/ufo13_run5_0243_i.jpg

http://www.steve510.com/coppermine/albums/uploads/ufo13_08/run5/ufo13_run5_0244_i.jpg


http://www.steve510.com/coppermine/albums/uploads/ufo13_08/run5/ufo13_run5_0245_i.jpg

http://www.steve510.com/coppermine/albums/uploads/ufo13_08/run5/normal_ufo13_run5_0384_i.jpg

http://www.steve510.com/coppermine/albums/uploads/ufo13_08/run5/normal_ufo13_run5_0385_i.jpg

Rittmeister
12-07-2008, 07:15 AM
I have a Fastbrakes Wilwood setup on the front of my S13, and have really had no complaints. They're a good company and Brian is very knowledgeable and usually returns emails within a day. This setup has worked quite well in the two years I've had it.

In fact my front setup will be for sale soon as I am moving in a different direction, but that has nothing to do with either the quality or the customer service.

KA-T_240
12-07-2008, 09:57 AM
I guess i do not know how to properly "tune" the suspesension. I have Stance GR+ pros with the 8/6 springs on them. I ussaully have the fronts in the middle on the damp, and the rears all the way loose(helps traction).

I never used to lock them up, but starting to learn the car more and its limits and am coming through some sections on the auot-x course in the top of second.

My next set of tires will more then likely be a set of R888. With 255 in the front and 275 in the back.

slider2828
12-07-2008, 11:51 AM
Yah tire pressure, contact patch makes a huge difference.... Maybe also take play around moe with the suspension height and stuff. Especially on S13's. After I had more height bias in the front, meaning a little lower in the front than in te back, it helped a lot... Also depends on road conditions... If it is dusty then obviously it would slide... But in general what does locking up "easy" mean. You know what I mean? I am thinking probably we all brake with different pressures and into a corner at different speeds.

But seriously if you don't care about ebrake then just bolt on the Z32 rear caliper. I mean they are like 50 bux for the rear calipers themselves its just the "whole" assembly costsa lot of money...

180sxdrifter
12-07-2008, 11:56 AM
I'm interested on feedback on these rear brakes as well. I am going to need some upgrades for next season. I'm upgrading my 180SX front brake setup to q45 calipers.

slider2828
12-07-2008, 12:29 PM
Ask fastbrakes if they retain the ebrake functionality or have a solution for it. Otherwise, you might as well just use a z32 rear without the ebrake hubs.... Simple done and probably brake better than these brakes as if you have 300zx fronts, its retains the perfect balance....

KA-T_240
12-07-2008, 06:26 PM
You use the factory caliper and e-brake when using the fastbrakes.com setup. My front is lower then the rear, with my big rears that makes it even more. I normally try to run around 32psi in the tires.

I want the E-brake to be functional.

I have been locking them up going straight at pretty hard braking. When I try to corner its at like 50%+

slider2828
12-07-2008, 11:04 PM
What tires are you using as this will 100% affect braking performance.... Also what BMC are you using as that will make a difference too.

So with the fastbrakes, you use an adapter just to use a bigger rotor? There was a thread on this about that setup here on zilvia. Some other company did the same thing, I think phase2 also has something like that. Its an adapter to space out the stock caliper. So for 250 you get a spacer and a bigger rotor? This really does nothing except cool the rotor down, but it doesn't really impre your brake performance any more. This solution for the price doesn't make sense.

KA-T_240
12-07-2008, 11:18 PM
235/40/17 front and 275/40/17 rear, RT615 for tires.

It is suppose to do more then cool the rotor. It moves the clamping force further away from the hub. There is supposedly some science behind it all. I don't know shit about physics, thats why I am asking.

slider2828
12-07-2008, 11:43 PM
Yah there was a thread on that specifically about that spacer... Check it out, but in the end, it wasn't worth it as you can get a full rear Z32 setup for that price.

KA-T_240
12-07-2008, 11:51 PM
I have looked, can't find shit on it.

I can make my own spacer. Just need to figure out what they using for rotor.

tramp_drift240
12-08-2008, 12:00 AM
most of the setups you see going around with the caliper adapter/spacer is for use with the 350z track edition rotor. its like 12.75" iirc.

corey240
12-08-2008, 12:19 AM
I have EBC Green pads front and back with EBC rear slotted/drilled rotors on my s14, the bias is pretty good. It stops nicely without locking up. Im gona go z32 front calipers though.

KA-T_240
12-08-2008, 12:27 AM
I have EBC Green pads front and back with EBC rear slotted/drilled rotors on my s14, the bias is pretty good. It stops nicely without locking up. Im gona go z32 front calipers though.

With stock brakes, the only issue you should have is not having enough braking ability.




Ugh, all of these parts :( what have I gotten my self into ahahahahahahahaahh

slider2828
12-08-2008, 09:31 AM
Why skimp? For 250 like I said you can get a full rear z32 swap. I mean for money and performance you can't beat it... Don't waste your time on these spacers for calipers to accomodate rotors...

OptionZero
12-08-2008, 10:47 AM
some dude was selling a bracket to use Mustang GT rotors with stock s14 rear brakes in similar fashion. i imagine those are the rotors to use, but i echo what everyone else said:

S14 rear calipers suck
get 3z rears

240trainee
12-08-2008, 11:16 AM
Yea, z32 rears are so nice, so worth the effort, I will never go back to stock.