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integlspwr
12-05-2008, 03:45 PM
I currently am looking for cheaper wheels that have the Concave. CST and MB wheels come into mind.

Like mostly everyone knows, concave face starts at a certain offset and width, then material is added to the hub to create that lower offsett.

So i guess the question for the zilvia guys is..

At what offset does it have max concave with the highest offset.

Some wheels i was looking at it.

MB Competition
MB Weapons
MB Battle

or any other wheels that r cheap and have concave face.

Thanks!

OTG Vinyl
12-05-2008, 03:46 PM
Those MB battle wheels (IIRC that's the name) look incredible for as dirt cheap as they are.

You could always scrape the bottom of the barrel for rotas.

integlspwr
12-05-2008, 03:53 PM
Those MB battle wheels (IIRC that's the name) look incredible for as dirt cheap as they are.

You could always scrape the bottom of the barrel for rotas.

Oh ya i forgot I should include The Battles also.

I guess the question is now. whats the width and offset for each rim that has max concave but with a higher offset.

Thanks!

zaquanh
12-05-2008, 03:54 PM
cst arent generly that cheap

battles look baller and they will be on everyones car too

yea and rota ,

Om1kron
12-05-2008, 03:59 PM
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Sonic Motor
12-05-2008, 04:03 PM
get the MB battles!

$50 off from discount tires direct these few days.I got my just yesterday! w00t.

OTG Vinyl
12-05-2008, 04:03 PM
get the MB battles!

$50 off from discount tires direct these few days.I got my just yesterday! w00t.

Wish they came in 19s. :sadwavey:

BustedS13
12-05-2008, 04:33 PM
mb battles look like the motegi mr7's my ricer buddy had on his celica in 2001

OTG Vinyl
12-05-2008, 04:35 PM
mb battles look like the motegi mr7's my ricer buddy had on his celica in 2001

Weren't Motegis just knock offs of Konig Tantrums?

integlspwr
12-05-2008, 04:36 PM
anyone know whats the higest offset they offer with max concave?

wgJoY
12-05-2008, 04:36 PM
You could always scrape the bottom of the barrel for rotas.

or no rotas.

BustedS13
12-05-2008, 04:39 PM
Weren't Motegis just knock offs of Konig Tantrums?

which were knockoffs of Advan F-7's, and on and on

at this point, i think it's a bad look...

OTG Vinyl
12-05-2008, 04:51 PM
which were knockoffs of Advan F-7's, and on and on

at this point, i think it's a bad look...

That's right! I forgot about the Advans.

Ultimately there are only so many wheel spoke designs possible. It's just a matter of finding whatever you like the most and can afford I guess.

OptionZero
12-05-2008, 05:04 PM
MB Competition and Weapons dont have concave, or at least not enough to count.

Quigs
12-05-2008, 05:11 PM
Competitions are not really concave at all. I just finished painting a pair :)

My friend loves some concave wheels. He just went from Competitions to Enkei RP03's. Much better look in my opinion, and even though they aren't the most concave wheels out there, they look really nice on his car.

simmode1
12-05-2008, 06:22 PM
mb battles look like the motegi mr7's my ricer buddy had on his celica in 2001

MR7'S aren't concave at all. Don't ask how I know...:down:...

ayuaddict
12-05-2008, 09:52 PM
okay.

cheap concave wheels.

Mb battle.

17/18x9.5 +15.

"most concave with highest offset"

thre you go.

Matej
12-05-2008, 09:59 PM
Also, 17x10 +12 FN's?

integlspwr
12-06-2008, 12:43 AM
thanks guys but the offsett i was looking at was a +29 or higher.

Dousan_PG
12-06-2008, 12:44 AM
thanks guys but the offsett i was looking at was a +29 or higher.

you have -30mm fenders???

240sxScores
12-06-2008, 12:49 AM
17x9 +30 URAS NS-01's are pretty concave. the 9.5+15 size has the same concave face sizing as the 9 +30 face. I got pic's if you wanna see send a pm.

jrocslider
12-06-2008, 12:58 AM
the battles also come in a +23

drift freaq
12-06-2008, 01:12 AM
17x9 +30 URAS NS-01's are pretty concave. the 9.5+15 size has the same concave face sizing as the 9 +30 face. I got pic's if you wanna see send a pm.

Good luck on finding some NS01's . They were sold and imported for a short time. I do not believe they are available and the OP would have to hunt for set used with limited results.

Concave wheels in generally are going to be low offsets. To the OP trying to find a +29 wheel that is concave is like a crack head trying to find crack in the Artic.
Seriously thinking Concave thing wide wheels with low offsets i.e at least 9 inches wide or wider with a offset of +15-+12 at the highest.

Want a reasonably priced Concave?
Look at the 5zigen ZR520's or Gravity Gullflame's. Otherwise spend a few pennies more and get some Gramlight 57D's or Maximums or Work CR KAI's.

derek_s13
12-06-2008, 02:37 AM
thanks guys but the offsett i was looking at was a +29 or higher.

there's no way you're finding an acceptably concave wheel in that offset.




hit the books man, you've got some learnin to do. wheels 101.

burnsauto
12-06-2008, 03:23 AM
rhdjapan.com , BeeR wheels come in decent sizes (not the great sizes anymore, grr. but nothing a spacer couldnt fix) awesome concave wheel. Great price too shipped.

yokotas13
12-06-2008, 03:41 AM
57Ds come in 18x9.5 +38s

thats what i have comming for hte suby w/30mm adapters

there's no way you're finding an acceptably concave wheel in that offset.




hit the books man, you've got some learnin to do. wheels 101.
so do you smartass


btw, cst...not so cheap anymore, they are the only guys shiping out the wheel...mb doenst carry it anymore ive been told

integlspwr
12-06-2008, 03:51 AM
Thanks ill look at the suggestions. btw this is going on a s2000 and the s2000 run super weak offsets. But im trying to push the envelope. 2 years ago. 17x9+45 on a s2000 was "EXTREME" but today im trying to do a 17x9 +29 all around.

integlspwr
12-06-2008, 03:53 AM
Good luck on finding some NS01's . They were sold and imported for a short time. I do not believe they are available and the OP would have to hunt for set used with limited results.

Concave wheels in generally are going to be low offsets. To the OP trying to find a +29 wheel that is concave is like a crack head trying to find crack in the Artic.
Seriously thinking Concave thing wide wheels with low offsets i.e at least 9 inches wide or wider with a offset of +15-+12 at the highest.

Want a reasonably priced Concave?
Look at the 5zigen ZR520's or Gravity Gullflame's. Otherwise spend a few pennies more and get some Gramlight 57D's or Maximums or Work CR KAI's.

the thing about this is that. the work emotion cr kais have the same face on the 17x9+44 than it does on the +12. same face, just more material on the hub.

fliprayzin240sx
12-06-2008, 04:43 AM
Rim/spoke design has a lot more to do with the concaveness of a wheel than offsets and width in my opinion. But in all honesty, every rim a manufacturer are all different. I mean I've seen concave faced rims on Hondas with +40s offset for crying out loud.

ayuaddict
12-06-2008, 04:50 AM
i would do the 17x9.5 +23 battles.

but hey wait...

if you can afford a S2000 im sure some Emos, gram lights or RPF1s would be easily attainable.

theronin
12-06-2008, 05:01 AM
anyone know whats the higest offset they offer with max concave?

WHAT THE FUCK?

go back to integras. please.

projekt_s13
12-06-2008, 05:55 AM
http://zilvia.net/f/off-topic-chat/196408-lets-talk-s2000s.html

http://zilvia.net/f/off-topic-chat/167087-any-s2k-owners-decent-wheel-fitment.html

drift freaq
12-06-2008, 02:30 PM
the thing about this is that. the work emotion cr kais have the same face on the 17x9+44 than it does on the +12. same face, just more material on the hub.

ah no, if you look at 17x9 +44 CR kai there is almost no concave action going on vs the +12. Plus your idea that adding material to the hub adds to the wheel being concave is backwards in theory. Adding more material to the center section of the wheel would eliminate concave elements. Taking away material for
Also though flipryn claims that Concave action is more due to spoke design which is partially true, offset and width do add to it.

Just look at the extremely wide lowoffset FNOC's to see an example of what I am saying.

aNskY
12-06-2008, 03:25 PM
the 10" +25 fn's have the same concave as the +12...

yokotas13
12-06-2008, 05:38 PM
ah no, if you look at 17x9 +44 CR kai there is almost no concave action going on vs the +12. Plus your idea that adding material to the hub adds to the wheel being concave is backwards in theory. Adding more material to the center section of the wheel would eliminate concave elements. Taking away material for
Also though flipryn claims that Concave action is more due to spoke design which is partially true, offset and width do add to it.

Just look at the extremely wide lowoffset FNOC's to see an example of what I am saying.
you are wrong

the FACE on most monoblock wheels (emotion, 57d and others) isnt determined by offset, but rather width. they put a certain face on certain widths. then add or take away material from the hub secion to make it different offets. like a +15 will clear big brakes but a +30 wont. (just for example)

drift freaq
12-06-2008, 10:05 PM
you are wrong

the FACE on most monoblock wheels (emotion, 57d and others) isnt determined by offset, but rather width. they put a certain face on certain widths. then add or take away material from the hub secion to make it different offets. like a +15 will clear big brakes but a +30 wont. (just for example)

ah which pretty much says what I said in a different way Grant. taking away material from the hub center changes the offset which can affect the concaveness on certain wheels, FN's and CR KAI's being a prime example. Plus your comments about brake clearances have no bearing in this conversation and is common knowledge .

derek_s13
12-06-2008, 11:46 PM
there's no way you're finding an acceptably concave wheel in that offset.




hit the books man, you've got some learnin to do. wheels 101.

so do you smartass

just to rebut you calling me out, let me reiterate what the thread starter is looking for with the opening post:

I currently am looking for cheaper wheels that have the Concave. CST and MB wheels come into mind.

Like mostly everyone knows, concave face starts at a certain offset and width, then material is added to the hub to create that lower offsett.

So i guess the question for the zilvia guys is..

At what offset does it have max concave with the highest offset.

Some wheels i was looking at it.

MB Competition
MB Weapons
MB Battle

or any other wheels that r cheap and have concave face.

Thanks!

now i will admit that 'cheap' is a relative term, and doesn't carry the same definition for everyone.

but, he specifically mentioned the battles, and i know he's been looking at zilvia's users'
cars with +15's on them. the +30 he requested is different concavity (as you know)

i also said 'acceptably concave' as in close to the battles he was viewing.

i suppose he may settle for the +30 face, but a wheel as concave as the +15 battle
as cheap as they were a few months back... i still don't think he's gonna find that.

if price were not a factor, that's a different story. not saying the wheels don't exist,
just saying they can't be had for cheap.

am i wrong? let's hear it.

yokotas13
12-07-2008, 03:53 AM
57ds are soooooooo cheap.
CRkais are cheap

yokotas13
12-07-2008, 04:40 AM
ah which pretty much says what I said in a different way Grant. taking away material from the hub center changes the offset which can affect the concaveness on certain wheels, FN's and CR KAI's being a prime example. Plus your comments about brake clearances have no bearing in this conversation and is common knowledge .

no it deosnt....

the face on each face of the kais are the same regardless of offset it is offered in
all the 9.5 regardless of +50 or +18 or whatever it is have hte same face
come on man, just look at hte work site lol