weight reduction ideas

[gotboost2jz]

I want to put my S14 on a light diet. I was reading through SCC magazine and saw that they swapped out the rear spindles in favor of n/a 300zx spindles and saved 7lbs per side. Has anyone got any other weight saving ideas such as this?

With that said though, I'm not stripping my interior (my lady isnt a trashy girl and i like my comforts). Also, please dont recommend me the obvious "buy carbon fiber everything" or "buy super light weight wheels". Those are obvious as sunlight and if I wanted to hear that, I wouldn't bother posting a thread lol

[racepar1]

Ummm, buy lighter everything is HOW you save weight. How are we supposed to give you advice if you don't want us to tell you what to buy? There are no miracle, magical solutions. Oh and BTW the weight saved by the z-32 aluminum rear uprights is gained back by the e-brake drum assemblies that are needed with z rear brakes, so you just come out even with that. I know you can run the rear uprights without the brakes, but the vast majority of us want z-brakes.

[Def]

You could remove the sound deadening. That's worth about 25-30 lbs across the whole car on an S13. It won't make that car that much louder really, as it's not like it covers all panels.

Lighter coilovers, stick to smaller brakes, composite pieces as you mentioned(my relatively cheap fiberglass S13 hood is ~21 lbs lighter than the stocker(stock = 40 lbs, FG = 19). Lighter seats are good, but honestly, the reclinable stuff out there isn't much lighter than S14 seats. Something like an E46 M3 has 100 lb each seats, so you save a ton going to aftermarket seats, but my S13 seats were about 30-35 lbs each IIRC, so hard to really save much there. Even a nice bucket seat will be up in the 20-25 lb range after you put some brackets and sliders on it. You can go through and remove unused wiring, but I doubt there is much on a "comfy street car" you would find yourself stripping out.

Really isn't that much more you can do and keep it a comfy street car because these cars aren't fully optioned, really isolated luxury cars. Take an E46 M3, just stripping it and putting in light seats will ditch about 400+ lbs, while in an S13 it's more like 150 lbs.

If you really want to spend some money you can replace non-loaded fasteners with aluminum since there are probably 100-200 M6 bolts that are barely loaded just holding on some little bracket here or there, but you're talking maybe a few lbs after spending quite a bit of money and replacing every single one.

[pwr-adr]

I took out every bit of sound deadening material, any and all tar aswell as the thin hockey puck stuff that goes up the firewall. According to my scale, I save 72lbs including the trash bags.. That is significant and you can notice a difference.

I also got rid of ac/heater everything. I went with z brakes front (aluminum calipers saves 4.7 lbs each) and rear (includes aluminum rear z uprights which do come in at 7.3lbs lighter than stockers).

I got rid of battery tray, useless brackets, 24 pounds of wiring, pop up motors, rear seats, hood bracing and a little bracing from the trunk.

I also cut out a bunch of circles out from the sheet metal in the interior, all of the circles are covered by the interior plastic pieces and I only drilled them out where it was safe to do so (saved 8 pounds there).

I never put more than a half tank of gas for it isn't good weight wise for economy around town.

I swapped an aluminum motor in instead of rocking the iron one wink: wink:
Aluminum driveshaft, lightweight fly, etc etc etc I know there is a ton of stuff I'm forgeting.. all the little things add up and make a difference despite popular belief. I loved being the fastest KA (all motor mind you) in town and even picking on a few 5.0's and s2k's here and there.

[n240sxfnatic]

you could go on a diet as well

[HS13KLS]

you could go on a diet as well




HAHAHAH!!!

funny, yea..
you arent goign to have a quiet, comfy street/track car.. and keep it light..

unless you took out your seats and put origin rear seats in or somthing( that you cant sit on )

[GSXRJJordan]

I took my S14 down to bare metal everywhere (that's pretty much how I bought it), and read that another guy with an identical setup (S13 SR, FMIC, lightweight seats, no interior, carbon hood, 1/2 tank gas) weighed in under 2500lbs.

Lets not forget bumper supports and crash bars in the stock doors - lightweight race car wouldn't have them, but most street cars do. I'm guessing there's 100lbs there, if you take out the window glass as well.

Currently, I've added a passenger seat, and around 70lbs of sound equipment. I plan on adding aftermarket sound deadening (Cascade Vmax) until I'm happy with the road noise, and weighing then. I hope to be under 2800lbs with me in it (180lbs).

None of it's cheap, and it all takes away from "daily driving".

[Markdawg20]

Remove rear windshield wiper and plug the hole if your model is so equipped with one.

[Markdawg20]

Also, remove the windshield washer fluid tank It weighs like 3 ounces empty! You can also ditch the carbon canister, a/v stuff, egr stuff. If you clip your toe/fingernails, and piss before you go race this will help as well.

[!Zar!]

I loved being the fastest KA (all motor mind you) in town and even picking on a few 5.0's and s2k's here and there.

5.0... mustangs?

[MetricHotrods.com]

scrape the rear defroster off your window. yea, those little brownish metal lines.

im still laughing at the guy up there that said he swiss-cheesed his car.

[bejota180sx]

what the hell did you have in that KA to beat 5.0?! HAHAHA...

oh btw... wanna make your car lighter? i removed sound deading and if i have to do it again i prefer to lose 25 pounds on my body than doing that crap again! it looks nice i love how it looks all painted and clean but damm when i took all that crap and weighted it and it was only 25pounds i was like SHIT! i could have lost that in a few months at the gym! or getting anorexic again like old times! HAHAHAHA

best simple ways to lighten your car...
- carbon fiber or frp hood (maybe lighten/gut your stock hood like me helps a tiny little bit)
- carbon fiber trunk
- lexan glass
- gut the interior/remove sound deading
- take out AC (hey i said how to remove weight not keep it 100% useful)
- take out all the ac crap behind dash
- dumb stuff like take out spare tire and all that crap
- remove front/rear bar/bumper support (risking your life...)
- remove wiper assemblies in back and you could do that stupid ricer thing with only 1 wiper in front...

take it to the extreme and be paranoid about weight?
- titanium bolts,screws, nuts
- remove a bunch of electronic stuff and electric wires
- frp/carbon seats cound as lightweight (right?)
- people gut the door bars, or get frp/carbon doors
- and all that carbon/frp shit for the interior

NOW my advise? go on a diet its just easier than most of this dumb shit... i wouldnt do it again on any car... its not like you gain as much... unless you have a dedicated track car and want to make every second at the track count...

[bejota180sx]

you could also drill a bunch of holes everywhere and say its losing weight HAHAHAHAHAHA

[Matej]

Lightweight crank pulley, flywheel, and driveshaft.

[georgesal]

or just make more power

[ka24delover]

more power

[Kn1ves]

or just make more power

wrong, making more power doesn't reduce weight.

[gotboost2jz]

Also, remove the windshield washer fluid tank It weighs like 3 ounces empty! You can also ditch the carbon canister, a/v stuff, egr stuff. If you clip your toe/fingernails, and piss before you go race this will help as well.

i like the last suggestion. haha

anyway, im a 5'10" 165lbs military boy. loosing weight is not needed or even realistic to be honest. i commend you all on thinking outside the box though.

[bejota180sx]

get down to 140lbs youre gonna be underweight health wise but its a weight reduction!

and yeah like matej said, reduce weight at the engine... besides crankshaft,flywheel,pulleys... lightweight (ss or ti) exhausts,manifolds,downpipes reduce weight,pipes or anything like that... removing everything that the engine doesnt need emisions and stuff like that

if it has sunroof i guess removing it and shutting it closed would reduce that weight...

im not saying any of these weight savings is gonna help or actually improve anything, im just saying areas you could lose some weight; if it does anything i really don't know...

[Def]

You don't feel 10 or even 20 lbs of weight loss, but add that up over a few times and find the car 40, 50, 60, even 70 lbs lighter with a lot of effort and you can bet you will feel that.

Oh, I should add - lightweight battery. My Odyssey PC680 is about 14 lbs and it cranks my car up just fine(don't recommend it if you've got a bling-bling stereo). That'll save a good 15-20 lbs over the stock sized battery there.

[Hashiriya415]

why weight reduction?
some of my ideas
remove all speakers, stereo. that's how I roll, everyone that rides with me always says why don't I install a stereo, do you have to have a stereo?
1 windshield wiper
remove airbags
remove blower motor and replace with a computer fan, seriously that saved me like 5-10lbs
no carpet, you can afford shoes right?
motorcycle battery, that's about 20lbs
I took lot's of time removing wiring, door sensors, S13 automatic seatbelt wiring, basically after all the unnecessary S13 crap I shaved around 20lbs
no rear brakes, only if you think you are doing the right thing
no power steering
remove unnecessary wing, side skirts, if you have a bigger aftermarket bumpers
racing shoes, they are so light you don't even feel your wearing them, sometimes I just drive with no shoes
sun visors, just relax and enjoy the sun
cut bumper support, or remove completely, you make big money when someone hits you, cuz my zip-tied bumpers will fall as soon as another car touches them, they fall off and money gets transferred
lighter exhaust, stainless steel headers, catback, or even titanium if you got the money
aluminum shift knob, custom aluminum e-brake
shaved off the 4 S13 side markers
remove fog lights
remove 1 horn
short intake
intake manifold
small K&N oil filter
1 quart less engine oil, even 2 worked on my friends B18 that I raced with, but he had royal purple so that's why it didnt blow probably
half quart less, tranny oil
brake fluid right at the low line
use old brake pads almost worn out, that's about 5lbs for all 4
remove power antenna
if you have a KA, go with SR20DE
lightweight pulleys
cable and lever, for trunk and gas door, after you remove this you can't open the gas door unless you kind of bend the little latch inside, so basically on mine now, I hit it and it opens.
instead of screws and bolts that hold unimportant things just make little weld
carbon fiber driveshaft, light and increases safety
coilovers with aluminum body, so far haven't found anybody making them, someday I'll try making some
2 piece brake rotors
aluminum brake calipers
somebody really needs to make the front and rear sub frame out of aluminum
glove box. Passenger "I'm just gonna put this in your glove box, hey were is it?" me "glove box, never heard of it"
gauge cluster, just get tach and temp gauge
custom aluminum clutch/brake/gas pedals
lighter tires
knife instead of gun
acid dip doors hood trunk

[bunnathp]

^lmfao. knife instead of gun =)

[Maximamike]

1 quart less engine oil, even 2 worked on my friends B18 that I raced with, but he had royal purple so that's why it didnt blow probably
half quart less, tranny oil
brake fluid right at the low line
use old brake pads almost worn out, that's about 5lbs for all 4

That's probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard. :goyou:

[Matej]

When I bought my 240 it came with two huge 15" subs in the back, haha.

The car felt a lot faster after I took them out.

Since then I've removed about everything I could. The things I kept are the stereo and front speakers, bumper supports, door panels, center console, and dash. Even though those things aren't necessities, I like them. It's all about what you want to keep and what you don't care for.

Now that I can't really remove anything else, I plan to slowly start buying lightweight parts. Except for wheels and aero. Big heavy wheels and aero are top priorities, I'm just making the rest of the car make up for them, haha.

By the way I'm not doing this to go faster or whatever. I just love the awesome gas mileage, and how nimble the car feels. Plus I want to drift with an n/a KA on 18's.

[BustedS13]

if it's your daily driver, and you like being remotely comfortable, then don't even bother.

that is the best advice you will receive on the subject.

[Kalashnikov]

One of the most common and best weight reduction is to STOP Freaking EATING.

[ranger240]

cut the roof off.. while youre at it.. no windshield either.. make the first s14 speedster

[trsilvias13]

I swapped an aluminum motor in instead of rocking the iron one wink: wink:
Aluminum driveshaft, lightweight fly, etc etc etc I know there is a ton of stuff I'm forgeting.. all the little things add up and make a difference despite popular belief. I loved being the fastest KA (all motor mind you) in town and even picking on a few 5.0's and s2k's here and there.

You swapped in an aluminum motor and you are the fastest KA in town? IIRC, they dont have an aluminum KA24e/ka24de. Unless you are talking about owning a honda and having a K motor?

[!Zar!]

Anyways, aren't there like a billion other weight reduction threads?

[projectRDM]

Yes, there are. And we've covered every single possible detail before in those threads. People act like they've found something new just because they've never stripped a car before, but those of us who've had these things for 15-20yrs have already talked about every conceivable idea to lighten the chassis. There's nothing new to it.

[bl3ujay07]

1 quart less engine oil, even 2 worked on my friends B18 that I raced with, but he had royal purple so that's why it didnt blow probably
half quart less, tranny oil brake fluid right at the low line
use old brake pads almost worn out, that's about 5lbs for all 4


That’s probably the dumbest advice ever. You risk your motor to shave maybe 5 pounds when you could have just not eaten for the day or run around the block twice and sweat it off.
Best way to shave 30 lbs and gain 5 hp, not take his advice.

[bbejj123]

You swapped in an aluminum motor and you are the fastest KA in town? IIRC, they dont have an aluminum KA24e/ka24de. Unless you are talking about owning a honda and having a K motor?

Love- Present tense
Loved- Past Tense

I loved being the fastest KA (all motor mind you) in town and even picking on a few 5.0's and s2k's here and there.

[BustedS13]

You swapped in an aluminum motor and you are the fastest KA in town? IIRC, they dont have an aluminum KA24e/ka24de. Unless you are talking about owning a honda and having a K motor?

i'm pretty sure he was saying he swapped out his ka for an sr. but they weigh about the same. so i think he's just bragging that he has an sr. but so does 80% of this board.

anyway, *woosh* over your head

[Hashiriya415]

That’s probably the dumbest advice ever. You risk your motor to shave maybe 5 pounds when you could have just not eaten for the day or run around the block twice and sweat it off.
Best way to shave 30 lbs and gain 5 hp, not take his advice.

sorry but I wasn't fully explaining.
My friend kind of never heard of " checking oil with dipstick" LOL
he just thought he had oil, but his front main seal was leaking, so after we were screwing with it reving it to 9K maybe little over cuz the tach actually only went up to 8 so I don't really know exactly were 9 is. After that the next day he notice the puddle at his driveway, checked oil and was 2 quarts low. I said WTF we were racing with this and your 2 quarts below.

[SochBAT]

sorry but I wasn't fully explaining.
My friend kind of never heard of " checking oil with dipstick" LOL
he just thought he had oil, but his front main seal was leaking, so after we were screwing with it reving it to 9K maybe little over cuz the tach actually only went up to 8 so I don't really know exactly were 9 is. After that the next day he notice the puddle at his driveway, checked oil and was 2 quarts low. I said WTF we were racing with this and your 2 quarts below.

Cover-up story fail!

Fuck running tail lights. Get reflective markers.

[bejota180sx]

yeah we have like 100 weight reduction thread they all turn into people fighting between comfort and loosing weight most of the times...

thats why i just say my ideas... to the OP or whoever read to do whatever the hell he wants to his car...

[SexPanda]

honestly... The stock wheels and tires are usually a lot lighter then aftermarket ones. My e36's stock 15'' BBS's weigh in at a scant 12 lbs. My M3 rims weigh in at an impressive 24.

Add tires, blah blah blah, and with my stock wheels, I save about 40 lbs all and all.

But damn, the m3 wheels look sweet.

[bejota180sx]

honestly... The stock wheels and tires are usually a lot lighter then aftermarket ones. My e36's stock 15'' BBS's weigh in at a scant 12 lbs. My M3 rims weigh in at an impressive 24.

Add tires, blah blah blah, and with my stock wheels, I save about 40 lbs all and all.

But damn, the m3 wheels look sweet.
aren't the m3 wheel bigger? and also wider? just like the newer m3 wheels? you would gain weight but on the other hand you could stick wider tires and help a bit on handling... or

[Hashiriya415]

You can get like 15" x 10" that weigh around like 10lbs, I forgot where I saw it
that's about half the weight of the steels.
Also lightweight lug nuts, chromoly hubs and studs.
I forgot if the sway bars are hallow, but there are hallow aftermarket sway bars.
Nitrogen in tires.
paint and primer removal, and finish bare metal with a thin clear coat, it's used in bicycle racing I been there you save about 8oz on a bike.

[rb25_s13*CHUKI]

Its 626 right now!!!!!!

[moses]

I want to see the swiss cheese 240:goyou:

[Def]

i'm pretty sure he was saying he swapped out his ka for an sr. but they weigh about the same. so i think he's just bragging that he has an sr. but so does 80% of this board.

anyway, *woosh* over your head

An SR is way lighter than a KA. A little over 40 lbs from what I hear, and it feels like it lifting both up with a cherry picker. Not to mention the weight is further back.

[bejota180sx]

I want to see the swiss cheese 240:goyou:
i'm still waiting on the day that somebody does that when i say it...
hey i did what bejota said, i stuck a bunch of holes in the car to lose some weight all around...

HAHAHA

[Def]

i'm still waiting on the day that somebody does that when i say it...
hey i did what bejota said, i stuck a bunch of holes in the car to lose some weight all around...

HAHAHA

$100k+ BMW Club Racing cars do it all the time to get the weight down in the MOD classes. It's stiffer than a flat sheet if you dimple die the holes.

Not worth the effort in a primarily street car though.

[Kalashnikov]

Ways to reduce weight on a 240sx by Kalashnikov:

1. Cut off all the Muffler bearings, You don't need them.
2. Empty the catalytic converter fluids
3. Drill holes in the floor pan
4. Fill A/C with Helium
5. Remove padding from stock seats
6. Take a dump and shave entire body before driving
7. Clip your nails
8. Dip feet in liquid latex and that will be your driving shoes
9. Clean out your nose and ears
10. Remove bumper support and impart foam
11. Cut steering wheel in half. so you have a semi circle steering wheel.
12. No shift knob.
13. Put Nitrogen/Helium mix gas in tires
14. Wash car

[bejota180sx]

Ways to reduce weight on a 240sx by Kalashnikov:

1. Cut off all the Muffler bearings, You don't need them.
2. Empty the catalytic converter fluids
3. Drill holes in the floor pan
4. Fill A/C with Helium
5. Remove padding from stock seats
6. Take a dump and shave entire body before driving
7. Clip your nails
8. Dip feet in liquid latex and that will be your driving shoes
9. Clean out your nose and ears
10. Remove bumper support and impart foam
11. Cut steering wheel in half. so you have a semi circle steering wheel.
12. No shift knob.
13. Put Nitrogen/Helium mix gas in tires
14. Wash car

yeah!! and don't use underwear...:keke:

[DDSR240]

fyi my red coupe weighed in at 2310lbs with half a tank of fuel (I wasn't in it though)and I didn't buy light wieght shit just took out all the creature comforts.

[g-via]

take out all your glass and replace it with that plastic stuff...

great way to save weight, but crazy as fuck if you change your windshield out....

actually i dont even think thats legal

[DDSR240]

That’s probably the dumbest advice ever. You risk your motor to shave maybe 5 pounds when you could have just not eaten for the day or run around the block twice and sweat it off.
Best way to shave 30 lbs and gain 5 hp, not take his advice.
i luv caps lock:ddog:

[Hashiriya415]

maybe build from scratch, chassis out of carbon fiber tubing, then just put a S14 fiberglass shell over, that should be 1000lbs lighter then stock S14 I guess?

[Bigsyke]

$100k+ BMW Club Racing cars do it all the time to get the weight down in the MOD classes. It's stiffer than a flat sheet if you dimple die the holes.

Not worth the effort in a primarily street car though.

aside from all the BS in this thread, for the trunk that would be an excellent idea

[Maximamike]

maybe build from scratch, chassis out of carbon fiber tubing, then just put a S14 fiberglass shell over, that should be 1000lbs lighter then stock S14 I guess?

Please stop posting in this thread.

[Hashiriya415]

Please stop posting in this thread.
why? you haven't seen carbon fiber chassis before?

[bejota180sx]

$100k+ BMW Club Racing cars do it all the time to get the weight down in the MOD classes. It's stiffer than a flat sheet if you dimple die the holes.

Not worth the effort in a primarily street car though.
ive seen it before on club racing cars, but like you said dimple die holes... i just wait till the day that somebody wants to do a weight reduction and sticks a bunch of holes in all the interior with some holesaw or something like that!

[kognition]

What are you reducing weight for exactly? Before you start, you might consider getting your cage in first, then get the seam welding done after removing the sound deadening.
The spindles are a good start, but again... what is your track application?
The S14 has gobs of weight reduction and aero potential.
I suggest getting yourself some Enkei RPF1's for starters. And start working on the front of the car to reduce weight first. Then the roof (70lb's) and then work towards the rear.

[TanaMU]

there's a big ass wiki article on this somewhere. complete with how much everything weighs. anyhow, i saved a bunch when i swapped the stock seat out for a fiberglass one. saved another 20 lbs or so by swapping to a light weight race battery. 34 ish pounds were saved when I removed my AC.


titanium exhaust?

[Matej]

An OBX type header is about 1/3 of the weight of the stock one.

[trsilvias13]

i'm pretty sure he was saying he swapped out his ka for an sr. but they weigh about the same. so i think he's just bragging that he has an sr. but so does 80% of this board.

anyway, *woosh* over your head


Read what he wrote, he swapped in an aluminum motor and he is the fastest KA around. How can he be the fastest KA around with a SR? :wtf:

[bl3ujay07]

^^^lmao. hes got a point

[bl3ujay07]

maybe build from scratch, chassis out of carbon fiber tubing, then just put a S14 fiberglass shell over, that should be 1000lbs lighter then stock S14 I guess?

um.....no. I am not saying he doesnt have money to do it, but thats expensive as hell. I dont think he is looking at anything that expensive.

[bejota180sx]

in conclusion... you want to keep your luxury... just put on some light weight wheels and remove anything you really don't like, and the normal carbon/FRP things...
not much you can do beside those if you want to keep the car stockish...

[guitaraholic]

How much weight would you save going with Fiberglass or CF trunk. I can't imagine the weight savings would be that much.

Also, a question for all those who have taken out the sound deadening. Is there that much of a difference afterwards?

[moses]

I think making drivetrain lighter is better than making the overall car lighter for the 240.

[zorak]

why weight reduction?
some of my ideas
remove all speakers, stereo. that's how I roll, everyone that rides with me always says why don't I install a stereo, do you have to have a stereo?
1 windshield wiper
remove airbags
remove blower motor and replace with a computer fan, seriously that saved me like 5-10lbs
no carpet, you can afford shoes right?
motorcycle battery, that's about 20lbs
I took lot's of time removing wiring, door sensors, S13 automatic seatbelt wiring, basically after all the unnecessary S13 crap I shaved around 20lbs
no rear brakes, only if you think you are doing the right thing
no power steering
remove unnecessary wing, side skirts, if you have a bigger aftermarket bumpers
racing shoes, they are so light you don't even feel your wearing them, sometimes I just drive with no shoes
sun visors, just relax and enjoy the sun
cut bumper support, or remove completely, you make big money when someone hits you, cuz my zip-tied bumpers will fall as soon as another car touches them, they fall off and money gets transferred
lighter exhaust, stainless steel headers, catback, or even titanium if you got the money
aluminum shift knob, custom aluminum e-brake
shaved off the 4 S13 side markers
remove fog lights
remove 1 horn
short intake
intake manifold
small K&N oil filter
1 quart less engine oil, even 2 worked on my friends B18 that I raced with, but he had royal purple so that's why it didnt blow probably
half quart less, tranny oil
brake fluid right at the low line
use old brake pads almost worn out, that's about 5lbs for all 4
remove power antenna
if you have a KA, go with SR20DE
lightweight pulleys
cable and lever, for trunk and gas door, after you remove this you can't open the gas door unless you kind of bend the little latch inside, so basically on mine now, I hit it and it opens.
instead of screws and bolts that hold unimportant things just make little weld
carbon fiber driveshaft, light and increases safety
coilovers with aluminum body, so far haven't found anybody making them, someday I'll try making some
2 piece brake rotors
aluminum brake calipers
somebody really needs to make the front and rear sub frame out of aluminum
glove box. Passenger "I'm just gonna put this in your glove box, hey were is it?" me "glove box, never heard of it"
gauge cluster, just get tach and temp gauge
custom aluminum clutch/brake/gas pedals
lighter tires
knife instead of gun
acid dip doors hood trunk


Or you die. whichever.

Oh and no carpet and driving barefoot = 100% Fail.

[JRas]

or just make more power

weight reduction is more than just making power it improves handling.

How much weight would you save going with Fiberglass or CF trunk. I can't imagine the weight savings would be that much.

Also, a question for all those who have taken out the sound deadening. Is there that much of a difference afterwards?

it adds up, even shaving ounces

guy at the track with a civic, cut off the extra threading from every bolt I saw in the engine bay.

[SochBAT]

"If you wanna lose pounds, count the ounces."

[Marcus]

Ways to reduce weight on a 240sx by Kalashnikov:

1. Cut off all the Muffler bearings, You don't need them.
2. Empty the catalytic converter fluids
3. .....
.
.
.
.

haha.

remove::
paint
one lug nut from each wheel
seat belts.

[WangonwWarrior]

remove girlfriend

[jamben]

throw it away. or drift into a wall

[aoiken3]

-donate blood, trim nails, cut all hairs on body, get circumcised, cry, sweat, take a crap, pee, and puke before you get in the car
-give ur girlfriend some bus tokens
-drive naked
-while driving, keep spitting out the window

these are probably the only things left that you can do since you want to keep all the nice things in your car. dont get me wrong. i totally understand you cuz i like my baby looking like a car on the inside too. the first time i tracked her, i took my pants off and drove in boxers. i should've taken my shirt off too.....

[kognition]

Does anyone here actually have a dedicated track car? :confused:
Or are we just trying to find that delicate balance of performance and pimp?

[Bigsyke]

just picked up an xtune header, it fits perfectly, and its about 5x lighter than the s14 mani

[Def]

Does anyone here actually have a dedicated track car? :confused:
Or are we just trying to find that delicate balance of performance and pimp?

I wouldn't call it a dedicated track car, but my S13 is definitely not my daily driver. It averages about 3-4k miles, with at least a good bit of that(or as much as possible) going towards "driving driving."

[Devius]

-while driving, keep spitting out the window

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA!!!!!:bowdown:

[g6civcx]

cut bumper support, or remove completely, you make big money when someone hits you, cuz my zip-tied bumpers will fall as soon as another car touches them, they fall off and money gets transferred

If you do something to make the damage worse, like modifying your vehicle, that's contributory negligence and you may be denied compensation because you are responsible for the damages you helped cause.

Also none of this applies in no-fault states.

You have been warned.