Special sockets for tranny drain and fill plug

[mtyost]

So I would rather get the right tools for the transmission drain and fill plugs versus using a 1/2 breaker bar on the drain and a adjustable wrench on the fill, but the only company I have found that sells them wants $30 a piece for each socket.

Here is a link to there website: 13mm Subaru & Nissan Drain Socket (http://ultimatetoolco.com/drainplugs.aspx)
Nissan 17mm socket (http://ultimatetoolco.com/ktc17mmsocket.aspx)

Does anyone know if there is another company that sells these for a cheaper price?

[HyperTek]

ebay? maybe harborfrieght?

[soon2bs13]

^ x2.

maybe go to a shop and see if you can borrow one.

Good luck getting the drain plug loose. I gave up and removed the shifter and filled it up there.

[!Zar!]

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Are you kidding me?

Just use the 1/2" drive wrench.

Why won't you use it?

Did you cheap out and buy a harbor freight one?

If you have quality tools then they will have a warranty.

So you really don't have any excuse. Because using the wrench is the right tool.

Don't be a tool.

[racepar1]

Use a 1/2" breaker bar or large rachet for the drain. You can use either a 17mm open end wrench or, if the plug is too tight for that, a 19mm long 12-point box-end wrench for the fill plug. Not hard, don't waste your money.

[soreballz]

1/2" breaker bars and ratchets have a male end that is slightly smaller than the female end of the drain plug. Hence why you see so many that are stripped.

[mtyost]

1/2" breaker bars and ratchets have a male end that is slightly smaller than the female end of the drain plug. Hence why you see so many that are stripped.

Exactly, I would rather not strip out my drain plug.

[HyperTek]

i know how that is... cars are gettin old so its not always easy.. strip the shit out of my old KA tranny plug.. had to pull the driveshaft and lift the front end to change the tranny oil lollololol

[KiDyNomiTe]

Mine is partially stripped, but that was due to someone being stupid and using an impact...

If you just use your hand and hold it secure you will have no problems, shouldnt be that tight anyways...

[racepar1]

1/2" breaker bars and ratchets have a male end that is slightly smaller than the female end of the drain plug. Hence why you see so many that are stripped.

I have been doing it like that for YEARS and have yet to strip one single drain or fill plug. Maybe people should learn how to actually use their tools rather than spending money on more tools that they don't know how to use.

[theronin]

i never stripped a drain plug on either of my s14's. i always just used the 1/2 in breaker bar. as for filling the tranny up? i dont know why anyone would use the fill hole and not just remove the shifter. its like a quadrillion times easier.

[shinhed]

I vote to BAN the o.p.

[boske]

1/2" ratchets don't fit right, my plug wore out after doing a few oil changes. It might work great at first but you will eventually wear out the plug, I replaced mine with a diff plug (same thing but rarely used). If you get a socket that fits the fill plug, it might not help. I ordered a square drive socket that fits the fill plug (11/16 or 13/16 I forget) but with the socket on the plug I cant fit a ratchet between the transmission and the trans tunnel. My wrench spread and slipped trying to remove the fill plug so I just take off the shifter. I will replace the fill plug with a female square drive like the drain when I remove my trans.

[96Turbo]

Ban the OP? ha, plenty stupider questions being asked these days

I tried using the 1/2 drive on a breaker bar to take off the check plug (not drain plug). And stripped it. It was just seized in there or somethin.

Luckily the drain plug came out sorta easily.

But yea, i'm pretty sure that it's not the ideal tool to use seeing as how many people have stripped theirs using a breaker bar

[hai1206vn]

Btw, what the hell is this 17mm tranny fill plug advertised on that site? The KA tranny fill plug on my two s14's are just like the drain plugs, 13mm square.

[irax]

I vote to BAN the o.p.

I vote to ban YOU!

it's a valid question for some one who wants to be meticulous, though I don't know if O.P. truly is but I would rather have the right tools. Fortunately for me the vq35de 6speed has allen sockets for drain and fill. So I have no other option than 1/2 inch socket 14mm allen head.

[boske]

Btw, what the hell is this 17mm tranny fill plug advertised on that site? The KA tranny fill plug on my two s14's are just like the drain plugs, 13mm square.

This was either changed on the s14, or someone replaced them.

[Dousan_PG]

Use a 1/2" breaker bar or large rachet for the drain. You can use either a 17mm open end wrench or, if the plug is too tight for that, a 19mm long 12-point box-end wrench for the fill plug. Not hard, don't waste your money.

amen\\been doing this 6 years and the only ones stripped were due to the previous owner! haha

bought a new one at the dealer for stupid cheap and had that in the car

its not rocket science to change oils

[KA-T_240]

amen\\been doing this 6 years and the only ones stripped were due to the previous owner! haha

bought a new one at the dealer for stupid cheap and had that in the car

its not rocket science to change oils



Totally agree!!!!


To OP: who is the chick you your avatar?

[JRas]

I have been doing it like that for YEARS and have yet to strip one single drain or fill plug. Maybe people should learn how to actually use their tools rather than spending money on more tools that they don't know how to use.

seriously, I didn't even know their was a special tool, i thought this was exactly what you were supposed to use.. :hide:

[mtyost]

Ok, so the reason I asked is because I recently bought a new tranny and I tried doing the breaker bar thing to it on a drain plug that was already partially stripped courtesy of the previous owner, and all the breaker bar did was make it worse. So I figured I would try and get the right tool before I screw it up even more.

I guess if I comes down to paying $60 for two special sockets, I will just fill it through the shifter and take out the driveshaft to drain it.



To OP: who is the chick you your avatar?

No idea... Stole it from a guy on Honda-Tech :hide:

[racepar1]

1/2" ratchets don't fit right, my plug wore out after doing a few oil changes. It might work great at first but you will eventually wear out the plug, I replaced mine with a diff plug (same thing but rarely used). If you get a socket that fits the fill plug, it might not help. I ordered a square drive socket that fits the fill plug (11/16 or 13/16 I forget) but with the socket on the plug I cant fit a ratchet between the transmission and the trans tunnel. My wrench spread and slipped trying to remove the fill plug so I just take off the shifter. I will replace the fill plug with a female square drive like the drain when I remove my trans.


Wow you and the previous owner/mechanic fail at changing trans oil. Like I said use a 19mm 12-point long box-end wrench on the fill plug. If the previous owner effed the plugs up too bad bust out the torch adn remove the old ones then replace them with new ones. Just don't be an idiot and screw up the new ones. It is NOT hard people!

[TheXFlames]

orrrr you can use the breaker bar with dimes in there to replace the missing space..

thats according to a friend next to me.

[ixfxi]

Wow you and the previous owner/mechanic fail at changing trans oil. Like I said use a 19mm 12-point long box-end wrench on the fill plug. If the previous owner effed the plugs up too bad bust out the torch adn remove the old ones then replace them with new ones. Just don't be an idiot and screw up the new ones. It is NOT hard people!

aron




you win, they fail.


ive never had a problem doing it the way aron suggested, PERIOD. and ive been doing this same technique for over 10 years now.

[Rittmeister]

I picked up a 3/8 drive 13.1mm socket from thetoolwarehouse.net a few years ago. I bookmarked the link but they've changed their website and I can't find the same socket now; it was less than $10 IIRC.

I've had hit-or-miss luck with using the 1/2 drive breaker bar on the drain on various cars, which is why I got the socket. I've always filled through the shifter, so I've never even removed the fill plug.

[hOngsterr]

reminds me i have to change out mine
=/

[DJ_Sunrise]

After I stripped my drain plug by using a 1/2" drive breaker, I decided I had two choices. 1) drill out the old plug, crack it, pull it, 2) buy the actual tool that is actually meant for the job.

1/2" drives ARE TOO SMALL, and WILL STRIP THE PLUG. But hey, who cares? Worry about it once it breaks.

I bought the tool, fit in there perfect, and removed the plug, no hassle, no mess. Well worth the $30.

I'd let you borrow it, but I'm banned for a month for cursing, so I'll never see your PM.

-Bart