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Flicktitty
11-20-2008, 10:03 PM
Thinking of maybe putting a Autopower 6pt cage into the coupe.

a few questions.
How far can the seats recline with the cage?
How much of an inconveinance is it to get in and out?
Also
Does a 6pt for a s13 hatch fit into a S13 coupe?

Also if anyone has pics of them in there S13 please post them here.

!Zar!
11-20-2008, 11:53 PM
1 - How far it reclines depends on how far you sit from the wheel...

2 - Why would it make it any harder? Unless you have door bars, you won't notice a thing.

3 - Only the front section.
The rear bars are different.

4 - Search.

wow-thats-a-cool-car
11-21-2008, 12:08 AM
actially the hactch and coupe one is like the same we just borrowed my frends auto power cage from a hatch and put it in a coupe. The only problem is you have a huge blind spot when your backing the car up but you will get used to it

Flicktitty
11-21-2008, 09:02 AM
1 - How far it reclines depends on how far you sit from the wheel...

2 - Why would it make it any harder? Unless you have door bars, you won't notice a thing.

3 - Only the front section.
The rear bars are different.

4 - Search.

I was refferancing the door bars about gettting in and out.

And most of the pics i can find are of S14's or just the 4 points.

wow-thats-a-cool-car -- Do you have any pics of the hatch one installed in your coupe?

blu808
11-21-2008, 09:13 AM
AutoPower is garbage.

If you only want to do a bolt in then go safety 21

If you want a real mans cage go custom.

240trainee
11-21-2008, 09:20 AM
AutoPower is garbage.

If you only want to do a bolt in then go safety 21

If you want a real mans cage go custom.

Depends where you are.

Autopower passes NASA safety regs, Safety 21 does not.

:hide:

Just the way it is.

blu808
11-21-2008, 10:07 AM
Autopower also doesn't fit worth a shit, and looks terrible.

Brian
11-21-2008, 10:10 AM
The A-pillar bars are HORRIBLE on these cages, right?

Dousan_PG
11-21-2008, 10:12 AM
yes very. i hate that cage sooo much

i cant find any pics of it now in tuerk's car
quick interweb search

http://www.driftalliance.com/da/NEWS%20PICS/hampshaa2.jpg

blu808
11-21-2008, 10:12 AM
Yes. they are an "S" shape.

Nothing stronger than an "S" bar. lmao.

Complete junk.

Unless you have an 84 monte carlo. then they are the jammmmmmmmmm.

CrimsonRockett
11-21-2008, 10:13 AM
I've seen my share of Autopower cages and never liked them.

Sure do love my Cusco though.

:)

Project3328
11-21-2008, 10:25 AM
i have a pic.. im also getting rid of mine for just a rear cage

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/ProjectP/IMG_0997.jpg

Brian
11-21-2008, 10:28 AM
lol at cage fitment.

SoSideways
11-21-2008, 10:33 AM
lol at cage fitment.

If by "fitment" you simply mean that it "fits" inside the cockpit, then yeah, it "fits" lol

hahaha :D

!Zar!
11-21-2008, 11:34 AM
i have a pic.. im also getting rid of mine for just a rear cage

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y90/ProjectP/IMG_0997.jpg

Damn, I could play tetherball on that A-bar.

mr_240sx
11-21-2008, 12:46 PM
autopower cages fit like shit.

mangoes
11-21-2008, 03:24 PM
+1

i had an autopower in my s14. it was horrible! it was so low that i could just rest my head on the bar. at the track, my helmet would knock against it during transitions. garbage! cusco cages / safety21 cages have much much better clearance.

A Spec Products
11-21-2008, 03:31 PM
I'd say the majority of 240 owners dont race

And if they do race, it doesnt require SCCA/NASA regulations

And for the people that do require SCCA/NASA, you should get a custom cage done instead

Brian
11-21-2008, 04:12 PM
Logan constantly has THE best info on everything.

posi rep.

Flicktitty
11-22-2008, 07:59 PM
wow, yah thanks. Fuck that i'm stayin with the Cusco idea. Thanks guys,.

SuicidnS13
11-23-2008, 08:58 AM
Is there a reason why your even running the cusco cage other than looks, as it does absolutely nothing for chassis stiffening?

mr_240sx
11-23-2008, 11:53 AM
its for incase of rollover and for tandems if you have door bars so the cars front bumper doesnt break your legs.

murda-c
11-23-2008, 11:56 AM
Is there a reason why your even running the cusco cage other than looks, as it does absolutely nothing for chassis stiffening?

insert oft-quoted pics of s14 rolled over with cusco cage intact.

murda-c
11-23-2008, 12:11 PM
Is there a reason why your even running the cusco cage other than looks, as it does absolutely nothing for chassis stiffening?

insert oft-quoted pics of s14 rolled over with cusco cage intact.

ZenkiCam
11-23-2008, 12:20 PM
SWracecars.com search 240sx.


dont go with shit ass bolt ins. that autopower cage is laughable and cusco cages are worse than Autopower, they are meant for show and would crinkle lit a fat kid on a swing set in a roll..

!Zar!
11-23-2008, 12:22 PM
SWracecars.com search 240sx.


dont go with shit ass bolt ins. that autopower cage is laughable and cusco cages are worse than Autopower, they are meant for show and would crinkle lit a fat kid on a swing set in a roll..

lies.

lies.

lies.

ZenkiCam
11-23-2008, 12:28 PM
i know im sorry. im jealous.. go with cusco. its the shit!

!Zar!
11-23-2008, 12:59 PM
http://www.shift-lock.net/oilcover/allstarbash/allstarbash02.jpg
http://www.shift-lock.net/oilcover/allstarbash/allstarbash35.jpg

ZenkiCam
11-23-2008, 01:11 PM
that looks like just a roll bar right there. is that an autopower? autopowers straight, but when it comes to there cages and fitment against the pillers, just looks unsturdy.

!Zar!
11-23-2008, 01:22 PM
It's a cusco.

Oh, I agree with the cages fitting like piles.

I was only commenting on it being utterly useless.

ZenkiCam
11-23-2008, 01:25 PM
oh i thought you were defending it lol. looks like most of the damage though wasnt even far enough across the roof for the roll bar to take "effect"

smelly240
11-23-2008, 01:56 PM
you can see the imprint of th ebar in th eroof... it helps.

Flipzide
11-23-2008, 09:11 PM
This topic agian? just get whatever you want and whatever you can afford on your budget.

Even if it's not a weld-in cage, an autopower, cusco, saftey21, etc will do it's job, imo.

Most people here hard park, just drift or autox in parking lots anyway...

IMO, weld in a cage if you want to get serious and need to pass certain requirements. That's all.

ZenkiCam
11-24-2008, 04:35 AM
my take, its your ass that is in the drivers seat. how much do you think your worth..?

Eastside DriFto
11-24-2008, 06:29 AM
Do a autopower 4 Ponit...Then the rest made custom (halo and a piller bars.)

Koopa Troopa
11-24-2008, 07:17 AM
Is there a reason why your even running the cusco cage other than looks, as it does absolutely nothing for chassis stiffening?
It actually does alot for chassis stiffening.. Something about 6 bars bolted to the frame keeping key points of the car from flexing allowing the chassis to utilize more of the suspension... I wouldn't know anything about it nor would companies like HKS, Spoon, Top Secret, Cusco, TBO, etc. as they definitely don't use bolt in cages in their cars.



dont go with shit ass bolt ins. that autopower cage is laughable and cusco cages are worse than Autopower, they are meant for show and would crinkle lit a fat kid on a swing set in a roll..
Would you care to see the police report from the Okinawan government saying my friend's Safety 21 rollcage is what saved his life when he was t boned by someone running a red light? Ignorance is bliss.

All these dude's must be idiots and are simply using the rollcage for looks and hardparking purposes as they don't do anything for the chassis..

YouTube - AE-86 Battle in Tsukuba 2007 Part 1/2 (http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=7zgLLn6UfAw)
YouTube - Battle at 10,000 rpm (http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=QHqRVqPQD-8)

Oh shit, check the Jun Civic.. OMG A BOLT IN CAGE!!!!! Maybe you should write Jun a letter and tell them they're all fucktards who don't know shit about racing?

my take, its your ass that is in the drivers seat. how much do you think your worth..?

My life is apparently worth 25,000 yen... You're an idiot, go cry yourself to sleep.

LongGrain
11-24-2008, 07:39 AM
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ixfxi
11-24-2008, 10:10 AM
i have an autopower rollbar with cross and mid sections, i like it. fitment was fine.

i cannot comment on their cages, and i think a cage is much more intrusive and requires a much tighter and more precise fit. but as far as rollbars ago, i like the autopower bar.

ZenkiCam
11-24-2008, 12:23 PM
It actually does alot for chassis stiffening.. Something about 6 bars bolted to the frame keeping key points of the car from flexing allowing the chassis to utilize more of the suspension... I wouldn't know anything about it nor would companies like HKS, Spoon, Top Secret, Cusco, TBO, etc. as they definitely don't use bolt in cages in their cars.


Would you care to see the police report from the Okinawan government saying my friend's Safety 21 rollcage is what saved his life when he was t boned by someone running a red light? Ignorance is bliss.

All these dude's must be idiots and are simply using the rollcage for looks and hardparking purposes as they don't do anything for the chassis..

YouTube - AE-86 Battle in Tsukuba 2007 Part 1/2 (http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=7zgLLn6UfAw)
YouTube - Battle at 10,000 rpm (http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=QHqRVqPQD-8)

Oh shit, check the Jun Civic.. OMG A BOLT IN CAGE!!!!! Maybe you should write Jun a letter and tell them they're all fucktards who don't know shit about racing?



My life is apparently worth 25,000 yen... You're an idiot, go cry yourself to sleep.

lol cool man, i really dont give a shit, i dont trust my life with bolt ins. have fun. and unfortunately the sanction im building my car for doesnt accept bolt ins. at least not anymore. im not an idiot, i can just justify paying a little more and having a sure fire good cage. my life must be worth more then. Excuse me for having an opinion. your an asshole. are you actually going to argue with me though and say that bolt ins are on par with weld ins? thats my whole point here. and if you do, then your a fuckin moron.

i have an autopower rollbar with cross and mid sections, i like it. fitment was fine.

i cannot comment on their cages, and i think a cage is much more intrusive and requires a much tighter and more precise fit. but as far as rollbars ago, i like the autopower bar.

same here, i dont see a problem with there roll bars, but there cages meh.

Koopa Troopa
11-24-2008, 02:47 PM
Excuse me for having an opinion. your an asshole. are you actually going to argue with me though and say that bolt ins are on par with weld ins? thats my whole point here. and if you do, then your a fuckin moron.



same here, i dont see a problem with there roll bars, but there cages meh.

You can have an opinion but stop trying to pass your elitist "Weld in cages are the only option and all others are stupid" opinions off as fact. If you don't like bolt in cages that's cool. Don't fucking come into a thread and try to pass off bumscoop like it's a law of science.

What holds the bars to the frame to brace the chassis? Welds. Welds can break. What holds the bars to the frame to brace the chassis? Bolts and steel plates. Bolts can shear off and break.

To me there really is no difference.

Here's my bolt in cage. It fits like dick cheese.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/3020338124_7f1896e998.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/3020334214_2ee803d8e6.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3052/3020331514_748d9daa84.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3157/3019511411_b573e2afa2.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/3020345706_15d51298b6.jpg

Not everyone has access to a welding/ fabrication shop and especially not in countries like Japan where noise ordinances and space prevent such shops from being common. Safety 21 even makes bolt in rollcages to be used in FIA events.

What does FIA know though? Someone should tell them having 2mm thick, 40mm diameter steel bars in the car is a death wish and those cages will never protect you in a rollover..

Brian
11-24-2008, 03:20 PM
haha... how many times must this topic come up.

No matter how much PROOF we show them that these cages DO work, they just won't ever accept it.

"Oh man, that cusco show cage is just gonna collapse if you get in any type of accident"

Unreal how ignorant people are.

here is something to live by...
"pull your fucking head out of your ass."

lizmo
11-24-2008, 03:27 PM
here is something to live by...
"pull your fucking head out of your ass."
lol sig worthy.

ZenkiCam
11-24-2008, 07:45 PM
You can have an opinion but stop trying to pass your elitist "Weld in cages are the only option and all others are stupid" opinions off as fact. If you don't like bolt in cages that's cool. Don't fucking come into a thread and try to pass off bumscoop like it's a law of science.

What holds the bars to the frame to brace the chassis? Welds. Welds can break. What holds the bars to the frame to brace the chassis? Bolts and steel plates. Bolts can shear off and break.

To me there really is no difference.

Not everyone has access to a welding/ fabrication shop and especially not in countries like Japan where noise ordinances and space prevent such shops from being common. Safety 21 even makes bolt in rollcages to be used in FIA events.

What does FIA know though? Someone should tell them having 2mm thick, 40mm diameter steel bars in the car is a death wish and those cages will never protect you in a rollover..


very nice i can respect that.