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codyace
11-20-2008, 09:07 PM
Being that SixSpeedSleuth posted up his new best time, I realized that I had never posted mine!

RT - 1.027
60' - 1.814
330 - 5.148
1/8 - 7.843
MPH - 92.73
1000 - 10.156
1/4 - 11.645
MPH - 120.23

9:34 PM, Sep 5 - I'd say around 65 degrees.

I know I can get that 60' a little lower, but it was my first time out on ET Street Slicks, so they took a little getting used to.

Car is full trim s14, air condition, p/s, sunroof, everything. Not an ounce of weight reduction, spare tire bolted down too.

I didn't change the suspension aside from putting rear coilovers to full hard. Sway bars still on, tons of front caster, probably 1-2 degrees rear and front camber, slight toe in in the rear too....damn near my full on road course setup haha. No launch control either...the 4 psi one for 'street' tires damn near stalled my car. Launched around 6000 rpm, slippin the balls off the thing.

Just a little 28714. 64 (20psi), JWT Rom Tune, JWT S3 cams, and all the dressings. I'd hate to see how quick this car could be if I gutted it...but alas, it's my street car.

CIutchCollidE
11-20-2008, 09:15 PM
:2f2f: Sounds like a fun ride

holaback
11-20-2008, 09:17 PM
Uh nobody said that

projectdrifter
11-20-2008, 09:18 PM
get it good cody... not bad 4 a road racer at all.....

thats not really a bad 60ft 1.8... the guy that duplicated your setup locally pulled a 1.6-1.7 and his mph were just the same

i will be home soon.. deffantly january . i may need to come up very soon.

codyace
11-20-2008, 09:28 PM
Uh nobody said that

:goyou:

get it good cody... not bad 4 a road racer at all.....

thats not really a bad 60ft 1.8... the guy that duplicated your setup locally pulled a 1.6-1.7 and his mph were just the same

i will be home soon.. deffantly january . i may need to come up very soon.

It's freakin flurring up here right now mang. F this cold!

s13 @ fullboost
11-20-2008, 09:28 PM
Nice stats =]

Jonnyblaze
11-20-2008, 09:37 PM
Nice reaction time.

aNskY
11-20-2008, 09:46 PM
rear on full hard? wouldnt you want to do the opposite?

codyace
11-20-2008, 09:51 PM
Nice reaction time.

Good thing it has no indication on times, I'd be screwed!

rear on full hard? wouldnt you want to do the opposite?

Unsure...I figured you don't wanna loose much in the suspension travel....no clue really haha....this is why I stick to the twisties :D

MetricHotrods.com
11-20-2008, 10:02 PM
LOLOL you only do rear full hard on FWD cars man, so if its not a B16 CRX, put em on soft and youll prolly be able to shave a 100th of that 60ft.

weight transfer

Flicktitty
11-20-2008, 10:11 PM
not bad, what coils you runnin? any pics of the car/setup?

projectdrifter
11-20-2008, 11:38 PM
thats no biggie i ned to get out of sc for a break lol... but i will be up mid/late january for a wedding so make sure u got time to go party or something

Nismoknightska-t
11-21-2008, 01:07 AM
now thats fast..!

soften up the rear.. take the front sway bar off.. and gut it.. harder launch.. maybe 10s..?

LB.Motoring
11-21-2008, 01:16 AM
Yes you deff want to make the rear end soft, stock suspension is better for Drag than coilovers

codyace
11-21-2008, 06:34 AM
not bad, what coils you runnin? any pics of the car/setup?

Shity MR street ones. I'll be going with somethign Koni based over the winter (had to save my pennies)


As far as pictures, my sever is dead slow this morning but : www.codyace.com

Just a generic black 97 S14, lowerd, 350z track wheels, JDM OE front bumper

codyace
11-21-2008, 06:35 AM
LOLOL you only do rear full hard on FWD cars man, so if its not a B16 CRX, put em on soft and youll prolly be able to shave a 100th of that 60ft.

weight transfer

now thats fast..!

soften up the rear.. take the front sway bar off.. and gut it.. harder launch.. maybe 10s..?


Hahah, I'll hafta do this next time! I have no clue why I was thinking full hard was a good idea lol.

aNskY
11-21-2008, 06:55 AM
Hahah, I'll hafta do this next time! I have no clue why I was thinking full hard was a good idea lol.



evn better yet throw the stock shocks back on the rear. maximum squat will prevent wheel hop and give you better traction coming off the line. air down your tires a bit too, if you didnt.

codyace
11-21-2008, 12:35 PM
evn better yet throw the stock shocks back on the rear. maximum squat will prevent wheel hop and give you better traction coming off the line. air down your tires a bit too, if you didnt.

I had them at 13-14 psi, so that was set haha. I didn't get much wheel hop either, but changing rear out to stock would be super easy at the track:D

Next spring for sure I'll hafta try it out :D

OBEEWON
11-21-2008, 12:55 PM
Like everyone said you want the rear soft for drag racing. MR even sells some 4kg springs I think for the rear if anyone wants a softer rate.

I got a man that can put a slick 2 step on your already tuned ECU. Get you a couple of PSI before you take off. With those few changes I bet you can see 11.3.

OBEEWON
11-21-2008, 12:56 PM
What track btw? Im doing Maple Grove this spring FINNALLY.

codyace
11-21-2008, 02:47 PM
Like everyone said you want the rear soft for drag racing. MR even sells some 4kg springs I think for the rear if anyone wants a softer rate.

I got a man that can put a slick 2 step on your already tuned ECU. Get you a couple of PSI before you take off. With those few changes I bet you can see 11.3.

My JWT ECU already has 2 step and water injection :D I just need it alot higher for slicks. I'm already getting a new one sent out with a high/low LC, and the water again :D

What track btw? Im doing Maple Grove this spring FINNALLY.

Good old Island Dragway. With that said, my run would have probably been an 11.3-11.4 at Etown/Atco/Grove haha.

I'd go as far as to say that with a better driver, the car at 20 psi has an 11 flat in it.

norcal_black240
11-21-2008, 02:50 PM
Very impressive times. Can JWT install a 2 step launch control on all their ecu tunes? Or just one's for SR's? I have a JWT ecu tune for my KA and I wish I had a 2 step on mine.

codyace
11-21-2008, 09:36 PM
Very impressive times. Can JWT install a 2 step launch control on all their ecu tunes? Or just one's for SR's? I have a JWT ecu tune for my KA and I wish I had a 2 step on mine.

Yep!

Just talk to them on the phone, and they'll hook you up :D

JWT is good people. It's just that the FFF's that know nothing that talk shit on them.

steve shadows
11-22-2008, 12:57 PM
Being that SixSpeedSleuth posted up his new best time, I realized that I had never posted mine!

RT - 1.027
60' - 1.814
330 - 5.148
1/8 - 7.843
MPH - 92.73
1000 - 10.156
1/4 - 11.645
MPH - 120.23

9:34 PM, Sep 5 - I'd say around 65 degrees.

I know I can get that 60' a little lower, but it was my first time out on ET Street Slicks, so they took a little getting used to.

Car is full trim s14, air condition, p/s, sunroof, everything. Not an ounce of weight reduction, spare tire bolted down too.

I didn't change the suspension aside from putting rear coilovers to full hard. Sway bars still on, tons of front caster, probably 1-2 degrees rear and front camber, slight toe in in the rear too....damn near my full on road course setup haha. No launch control either...the 4 psi one for 'street' tires damn near stalled my car. Launched around 6000 rpm, slippin the balls off the thing.

Just a little 28714. 64 (20psi), JWT Rom Tune, JWT S3 cams, and all the dressings. I'd hate to see how quick this car could be if I gutted it...but alas, it's my street car.


Looks like I need to flex my muscles, need to get some drag radials though.

Maybe I can break into 10s on 91 octane and 18.5 psi

I just need the f-er to hook up, and putting a CF hatch on won't be helping.

Curb weight will be around 2300 lbs with half a tank after next weekend.

codyace
11-22-2008, 02:57 PM
Looks like I need to flex my muscles, need to get some drag radials though.

Maybe I can break into 10s on 91 octane and 18.5 psi

I just need the f-er to hook up, and putting a CF hatch on won't be helping.

Curb weight will be around 2300 lbs with half a tank after next weekend.

2300 lbs and a 30r is hardly the fair comparison to 3000 lbs and a t28 my friend ;)

But I guess my car makes good power, esepcially to trap 120 with the MT's :D

PS: Damn you guys and nice weather year round! Flurried and was windy all day again today. Someday I'll hafta fly out, baller style, to get a ride :D

ross.cottrill
11-22-2008, 04:13 PM
damn now thats what im talking about good time and mph cody!!!

fromxtor
11-22-2008, 04:49 PM
damn thats BA man, cant wait to run my setup.

justaKAiswear
11-22-2008, 05:32 PM
Man, really nice run! I can def. see 11.3's in your future, just adjusting to soft and getting a little more used to DRs and you could cut some high 1.6's out of the gate!

SixSpeedSleuth
11-23-2008, 05:10 PM
Good Run Cody!! Man, you have THE FASTEST 2871r based S chassis I've ever seen!! Especially considering you have an S14 with no weight reduction. To run a 11.6 with a 1.8 60' is MOVING! Work on that 60' and you could get consistent 11.4's or so. Are you running Meth? Congrats!

ross.cottrill
11-23-2008, 06:14 PM
yeah, i dont know he definately has some kind of freakishly fast car.i just dont get it ?

mattsil80wis
11-23-2008, 06:56 PM
yeah, i dont know he definately has some kind of freakishly fast car.i just dont get it ?

its called a properly built car

xs240
11-23-2008, 06:59 PM
^LOL
This thread is sexy

ross.cottrill
11-24-2008, 04:49 PM
its called a properly built car

whatever dumbass ,there are plenty of peolple on here with "properly built cars".his just happens to be alittle above the curve than everyone else with the similar mods.thats what the excitement is all about.please enlighten me of in wich a properly biult car contains?do you even know what his properly built car even has under the hood?probably not so stfu!and dont act like you schooling me on anything...this forum is over run with little smartasses like you....watever........man i feel better after that!!

mattsil80wis
11-25-2008, 05:37 AM
whatever dumbass ,there are plenty of peolple on here with "properly built cars".his just happens to be alittle above the curve than everyone else with the similar mods.thats what the excitement is all about.please enlighten me of in wich a properly biult car contains?do you even know what his properly built car even has under the hood?probably not so stfu!and dont act like you schooling me on anything...this forum is over run with little smartasses like you....watever........man i feel better after that!!

actually if you want to start this lets go.

Oh, and here is my big build list :D
ENGINE:
-Bone Stock Bottom end S13 Silvia 'Red Top' engine. I tore it all
down, and reassembled it just to ensure nothing was wrong with the
engine. Very clean, with miles, but not alot.
-JWT S3 Cams
-JWT ECU
-JWT Popcharger
-Ford Cobra MAF
-Mototron 60lb fuel Injectors
-Custom Steel top feed fuel rail
-Stock OEM Cast Iron Exhaust Manifold (Extrude Honed, and Swained)
-Garrett GT2871r .64 (Extruded Turbine housing)
-Greddy 3" o2/J Pipe/Turbout outlet
-Greddy RSPL Intercooler Kit
-Greddy Intake Manifold (real deal)
-Greddy Oil Pan
-Greddy Catch Can
-Greddy Type S BOV
-Greddy Profec Type S Electronic Boost Controller
-Greddy Rocker Arm Stoppers
-Enjuku Racing Hotpipe
-My own custom turbo intake
-Offensive Power Slim Battery (AKA Braille)
-RS*R ExMag 3" Exhaust (the quiet one with the chambered muffler)
-MR Downpipe with a flex section welded in (Thanks Emil's Weld Shop)
-Koyo Alum. Radiator
-Nissan Altima Dual Fans (eat your heart out Fal/Spal...these own!)
-Cometic MLS headgasket
-ARP head studs
-Walbro 255 HP pump
-New OEM Waterpump and most new OEM seals
-UR Underdrive Pulley
-TAKA GT series turbo feed lines (oil and water)
-Nismo FPR
- OEM Z32 Fuel Filter
- OEM Z32 Rad. Cap
-Phase 2 Motortrend Engine Dampner
-Nismo Engine mounts
-Nismo Trans Mount
-Aquamist Water Injection (Installed, but no tune for it yet)
-Autometer Phantom II gauges (to match the oem white face)
-Autometer Pillar Pod
- PLX m300 wideband

DRIVELINE, Stoppers and Rollers :
-1996 300zx TT 30mm Iron 4 piston Calipers
-Z31 N/A Master Cylinder (for correct proportioning valve)
-Carbotech Panther + pads (front and rear)
-JWT Z33/240 flywheel
-JWT Z33/240 Clutch kit
-Kaaz 1.5way differential
-350z base model 17's (For track use, and on till next year)
-18" Volk 57pros (For next year, daily driver wheels)

Suspension
MR Coilovers (800/600)
Whiteline Front Sway Bar
Whiteline Rear Sway Bar
Nismo Power Brace
Cusco RUCA's
SPL Front Tension Arms
Dubeloz Rear Cross Brace
Greg Dupree Z/240 subframe spacers
Cusco Rear Upper Control Arms (Small, yet very effective list)


Appearence/bling/rice
OEM Nissan JDM Front Bumper
OEM Nissan JDM Bumper Lights
OEM Nissan JDM Window Rain Gaurds
Greddy Gracer Front lip
LoCustom Shark Attack II Antenna
Tint
McCulloch HID's
OEM Nissan S15 Steering Wheel
My own Custom A/C Bracket (I'd rather loose 15 pounds in my ass before
taking A/C off for weight savings.
(I prefer the ZING ZING over the BLING BLING)
Keep on rockin matt! Nice to have another S chassis build :D

that is his exact build and im not sure if i should say this but things have changed since this too...i know this cuz he is a good friend of mine and actually helping me build the same exact set up in my sil80. His is a properly built car because he actually did research and figured out which turbo had great spool time compared to power outpower than found cams that would properly help out that turbo to make power. He doesnt have a mismatched turbo/cam set up. He also doesnt have crap parts like BC, he went with better parts like JWT. He did his research to build a great track/street car. I know this car is fast ive been in it multiple times. Ill even mention to him that he just comment on this.

and just to make it proof enough here is a few pictures of my car on his webpage
http://www.codyace.com/gallery/album290

codyace
11-25-2008, 08:34 AM
Man, really nice run! I can def. see 11.3's in your future, just adjusting to soft and getting a little more used to DRs and you could cut some high 1.6's out of the gate!

Getting used to those DR's was a hellish thing. That car felt loosey goosey and wobbly the first 3 runs on it. I think I actually let out the first 2 runs lol.

But like I said, this car is far from a drag car, I'm just glad it runs decent.

Good Run Cody!! Man, you have THE FASTEST 2871r based S chassis I've ever seen!! Especially considering you have an S14 with no weight reduction. To run a 11.6 with a 1.8 60' is MOVING! Work on that 60' and you could get consistent 11.4's or so. Are you running Meth? Congrats!

This may sound funny, but I have meth on the car, but I have never have it hooked up. For the first year and a half It never worked. Sent and got the ECU back twice, nothing worked. I then decided to open the top of the pump up and saw the first problem: The soldering broke inside on the board

. I fixed it, it worked for a bit, but it was very 'sluggish'. It wouldn't spray right. I opened it up again and this time looked into the actual pump: It was full of dirt and shit. I guess from me not having it capped off, it did nothign but become an expensive dirt collector. I couldn't believe it, considering how small the lines are!

So now the pump is back at aquamist for repair. This spring, I will finally run it haha.

yeah, i dont know he definately has some kind of freakishly fast car.i just dont get it ?

I'd like to agree with Matt, as I beleive the motor is simply built properly. Very few people run wolf cams (why I dunno, because they kick butt). Very few people run a stock manifold like mine (extrude, swain, tial 38), very few run the RSPL intercooler, the only IIRC guy with Seimens/Deka 60lb injectors...and the list continues. My timing is dead on, and the tune is the FIRST tune that came with the car, which was dead on out of the box from JWT.

But again, the car is not a drag car. It's a grip car. I can't even claim for it to be a road race only car, as the thing seens 75% to 85% of it's summer miles on the street, or actually driving to the track. That's why it's not gutted and still has A/C and that jazz.

PS: Don't mind matt, he is just excited about his car hehe.

that is his exact build and im not sure if i should say this but things have changed since this too...i know this cuz he is a good friend of mine and actually helping me build the same exact set up in my sil80.

The only things that have changed, power wise, just happend in the past 2-4 weeks haha. Those times were on the 'old' setup.

He also doesnt have crap parts like BC, he went with better parts like JWT.

I think this is the main issue. I've had enough experience in learning what works and what doesn't in the FWD world that I just applied that knowledge and expereince to the RWD community.

I'm the anti-laggy turbo kid. Nothing bothers me more than cars that see full boost at 4000+ rpm. I built the entire car around the idea to have full spool under 4k, and then take advatnage of the compressors airflow uptop (greddy IM).


Everythign I have ever done to the car, this side of some i've recnetly took and not uploaded are on my site: www.codyace.com

PS: Scroll around, some neat pics on there :D

smelly240
11-25-2008, 09:37 AM
SWEET! Another mod list thread with people that think they have special cars!

Seriously - nobody cares.

Cody - nice run... but your fanclub is gay tho.

vvtisupra
11-25-2008, 09:53 AM
this past weekend at idrc i saw the driftspeed s14 drift car do a 11.5 on maxxis drift z1 tires and the federal s13 drift car do a 12.3 on 595 rsr without doing a hard launch

speedracer601
11-25-2008, 10:15 AM
Woah man , drop the pressure on the rear , You want it to squat like a trans am , lol
Thats what i use my car for mainly.

Work on that reaction time and you could easily hit 11.5

good work though

smelly240
11-25-2008, 10:57 AM
reaction time? wtf are you talking about? the time doesnt start until u move, dummy.

vvtisupra
11-25-2008, 11:13 AM
actually if you want to start this lets go.


that is his exact build and im not sure if i should say this but things have changed since this too...i know this cuz he is a good friend of mine and actually helping me build the same exact set up in my sil80. His is a properly built car because he actually did research and figured out which turbo had great spool time compared to power outpower than found cams that would properly help out that turbo to make power. He doesnt have a mismatched turbo/cam set up. He also doesnt have crap parts like BC, he went with better parts like JWT. He did his research to build a great track/street car. I know this car is fast ive been in it multiple times. Ill even mention to him that he just comment on this.

and just to make it proof enough here is a few pictures of my car on his webpage
Gallery :: Matt's SR S13 (http://www.codyace.com/gallery/album290)
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did you just put properly built
and rom tune in the same sentence?

speedracer601
11-25-2008, 11:21 AM
reaction time? wtf are you talking about? the time doesnt start until u move, dummy.

All depends on the track, The one in Baton rouge i got to counts it in your final ET , but the one in Gulfport MS doesnt.

mattsil80wis
11-25-2008, 01:42 PM
did you just put properly built
and rom tune in the same sentence?

yeah JWT ECU all the way

codyace
11-25-2008, 05:46 PM
SWEET! Another mod list thread with people that think they have special cars!

Seriously - nobody cares.

Cody - nice run... but your fanclub is gay tho.

Haha, he's young and eager. He at least drinks good beers, so it evens out :D

Like I said, nothing is special about my car. Normal parts, with other normal parts. But I wuold like to think my combination of those parts is the ticket for fun. Maybe that, and the fact that I have done every single thing on the car myself haha.


Woah man , drop the pressure on the rear , You want it to squat like a trans am , lol
Thats what i use my car for mainly.

Work on that reaction time and you could easily hit 11.5

good work though

Typically from what I've seen in person and read, every tenth in the 60' generally eequates to 2 tenths on the big end. If I could get the car to pull an 1.68/1.69 60', It will run good.

reaction time? wtf are you talking about? the time doesnt start until u move, dummy.

Yea, I don't know what R/T makes any diff either. If it was heads up racing or the sort, than I'd care, but this 240 isn't drag oriented in anyway haha.

did you just put properly built
and rom tune in the same sentence?

For such a comedian, one would think they post up a better performing stand alone car with similar mods.

Mid 11's, 120 traps, 30 mpg, faster than z06's on track...and best of all, turn key daily drivable. No hiccups, no part throttle stupidty, no stalling, perfect AFR's in boost...the list continues.

I guess to me, that's not to bad for some 'good ole rom tune' in my eyes. I mean, it's not like JWT has been tuning and creating and being responsible for some of this countries fastest and most reliable Nissans, and suppling Nissan Motorsports with help and parts and the sort. Just a bunch of street corner fuckos ya know?



I guess in the end, being as quick as the car is, and not having any part issues over the past 2-3 years of owning it (well aside from recently having a trans fail) for the abuse I put it through...is good enough for me.

JuggernautDriftr
11-26-2008, 11:25 AM
awesome time man im running close to your setup puttin down 405 and the best i have gotten is a 12.7 at 115 with a 2.2 60' but then again im launchin at 2400 rpm damn street tires and still spun them haha i need DR like NOWWW

JuggernautDriftr
11-26-2008, 11:27 AM
by the way does anyone on here run Drag Radials with the stock 2 piece driveshaft?

smelly240
11-26-2008, 11:47 AM
Yes - i have... didnt hurt anything

240sxvaj
11-26-2008, 11:56 AM
where the vid? lol!

good run though

ross.cottrill
11-26-2008, 05:15 PM
hey cody im wondering if the final drive helped at the track at all?oh and be careful that guy might want to move in with you and start wearing you clothes and shit when your not around LOL...whatever...

1cleanS13
11-27-2008, 12:34 AM
Great time man!

I can't wait to run mine someday. I think I can pull mid 11s if it will hook up (gotta hate all that torque, lol). I'm still full interior, all options + a/c & 100lbs of stereo crap in the hatch.

< Fellow GT2871R .64 with a decent powerband here :)

codyace
11-27-2008, 04:41 PM
awesome time man im running close to your setup puttin down 405 and the best i have gotten is a 12.7 at 115 with a 2.2 60' but then again im launchin at 2400 rpm damn street tires and still spun them haha i need DR like NOWWW

You should be trapping a little higher than that with 405, but then again you have street tires...so all bets are off haha.

hey cody im wondering if the final drive helped at the track at all?oh and be careful that guy might want to move in with you and start wearing you clothes and shit when your not around LOL...whatever...

Hahahahaa. He's a tall mofugga, so i'm safe there lol.

It's hard to say. If you do the gear calculator with the slicks, 4th tops out at like 128/130. This is almost perfect quarter mile gearing...so that combined with the better 'out of the hole' acceleraton...it probably helped...but that crappy launch kinda takes away from the gear's effectiveness.

I can't wait to try it again, sometime, with the higher 2 step and the meth :D I'll def try it at E town or the Grove too.

Great time man!

I can't wait to run mine someday. I think I can pull mid 11s if it will hook up (gotta hate all that torque, lol). I'm still full interior, all options + a/c & 100lbs of stereo crap in the hatch.

< Fellow GT2871R .64 with a decent powerband here :)

Haha, I love these turbos!

JuggernautDriftr
11-29-2008, 05:21 PM
yeah im having to baby it out the hole and just back door it like it shows 2.2 60's FTW haha