Help!!!!

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

Hello all, I just need a little help deciding something here, apparently I'm being called a scammer because of this:

http://zilvia.net/f/scams-scammers/218218-oo_skyline_oo-2.html#post2461817

in case you don't want to read all of that, here is long story short:

brn2slid pays me $325 for all of these S14 interior parts, because he and I BOTH figured it shouldnt be more than $100 to ship everything(WRONG!!):

- x2 rear side panels(ones with the armrest)
- x4 floor mats
- x1 center console
- x1 steering column undergarnish
- x1 (2piece)steering column cover
- x1 steering wheel
- x2 dash side vents
- x2 rear pillars
- x4 seat belts
- x2 kick panels
- x1 gauge cluster bezel
- x2 door sills
- x1 rear speaker panel

On 11/17/08 I was finally able to ship most of the stuff out, but it cost me $205 so pack and ship everything, I figure fu** thats a lot but the guy has been waiting for 2 months so I just cut my losses and paid it. It would cost me another $85 to ship the rest of the parts(rear panels and center console) and I don't have that much money so I couldnt pay it.

He now wants me to pay for the rest of the shipping (total of $290). I refused to, untill he pays for the rest of the shipping. is this really a SCAM?????:cj: or is brn2slid trying to take advantage of me???

[Brian]

confused...

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

I'm just asking for the opinion of fellow honest zilvians like myself, should I pay $85 to get the rest of the guy's stuff shipped and take a $200 loss up the a** or should HE pay the $85 for the rest of the shipping??

[njd07]

I call bs on it costing $290 to ship all that stuff.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

haha I figured that would come up, I'll get pics of the receipts up in a minute. btw I shipped it through a ups store, and had them ship it because it would cost the same for me to buy their packing hardware(boxes, wrapping n such) and if I paid the same ammount for them to pack it they give me the pack and ship guarrantee(insurance too)

[Brian]

I think it might be a correct cost.
Some of those parts are BIG in size.

[jimmytango00]

brn2slid pays me $325 for all of these S14 interior parts, because he and I BOTH figured it shouldnt be more than $100 to ship everything(WRONG!!):

you should have found out how much shipping would cost before you took his money, sounds like you both agreed on the price so just cause you miscalculated i dont see why he should pay you the rest to ship the stuff out , i mean it would be nice but its your responsibility to pay it since you agreed on a price.


if someone said, ok i'll sell you the wheels for $500 shipped, but then finds out its more, it wouldnt be fair for him to charge you more after you agreed on a price.

[WISH ONE]

^^^^ case closed... In all honesty, both of you had an agreement..stick to it. Like you said.... your an honest Zilvian. Honest Zilvians are of their word.

[Brian]

I think that once you shipped out the stuff, it is CASE CLOSED.
follow through.

[FRoSt415]

Bad on you for accepting money and agreeing to a price and not figuring out the information. this is his view;He sent money to you for good that you were going to deliver for a agreed price, and now u want more money because you miscalculated the cost and still shipped out the item. You should have let him know about the shipping being so much and not ship out the items. send him his money back take the 7% paypal fee as a loss and save yourself from going into the hole you dug yourself into. Also he should be a little understanding for the shipping cost show proof and receipts and see if he would still want the rest of the pieces for the new price or agree to agreed price(get shipping quote first). Sounds like he has a right to be mad especially if you weren't in contact with him and letting him know whats going on with the items he purchased. Next time don't set a price without getting a shipping quote, or except a payment on the same instances.Very sloppy the buyer should have known better

[!Zar!]

Yeah, that's breach of contract.

[projectRDM]

I said it in that thread but I'll say it here too, you fucking fail hard for using the UPS Store. They are NOT a part of UPS in any way, they're the old Mailboxes Etc. They upcharge to hell for boxes, packing, and foremost shipping. Regular UPS Ground for an entire interior in your own boxes wouldn't have broken $60. For the love of all holy, do NOT ever use UPS Store again for anything, go to Office Depot and pay regular price like everyone else. They sell boxes and shit too.

And if I'm being a dick, fine. But you should have known when they gave you that quote you were getting fucked. Anyone would have.

[1989rps13]

You should of gotten a quote on everything first man before agreeing with him for 100$ on shipping for all those parts when in reality cost you 205$ i think you should send him a copy of what you paid. I'm sure your legit skyline cause a friend of mine vouches for you therefore i know your legit. Shit happens man and well it was also bad on your part for having him wait for 2 months... Just let him know that it cost soo much and he should cover the rest of the expenses. But then again you guys had agreed a set price right? That would be going back in your word. Anywho i wish u the best of luck im sure your not a scammer atleast in my book!

[CrimsonRockett]

1. Go to USPS and ask for FREE SHIPPING BOXES.

2. Start cutting up and make your own boxes.

3. Ship with DHL(they may not be the best, but I'll be damned if their prices can get any lower than that).

I've shipped a TON of shit.

Everything you've listed should have actually been waaaay under what you paid.

You screwed up.

Now you're paying for it.

[racepar1]

I know that you made a deal, but I understand that sometimes simple things snowball into something larger. If brn2slid feels like being an ass he can hold you 100% to that deal. In cases like this I think it is the most fair to split the loss. You each should eat half of the loss and everyone makes out OK. I don't know how reasonable brn2slid is, but that is the most reasonable solution IMO. Sometimes you make a mistake and just have to eat it though. I am in a similar situation with a deal that I made for some wheels right now. I was supposed to trade some work and some cash for the wheels. The work that I performed on the car vastly exceeded what I originally estimated would be done on the car and I would end up overpaying by a significant amount. Luckily the guy that I am dealing with is a good guy and is willing to be reasonable. I am going to put everything down on paper and we are just going to split the loss.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

Alright then, thank you all for your opinion, it is greatly appreciated.............NOW, anyone know how the hell I can shipp 2 rear s14 panels and a center console for cheap???

ok then, I'm on my way to get me some cardboard and to contact DHL

[jimmytango00]

^good man! next time research before you agree on a price.

LOCK THIS BATCH!

[CrimsonRockett]

ok then, I'm on my way to get me some cardboard and to contact DHL

The post office has different sized boxes. The ones they use for flate rate shipping.

Ask for the Large Flat Rate shipping box.

I always ask for 4 whenever I go, but maybe you can try for more? Up to you.

Not trying to be a dick, just trying to help you out by pointing you in the right direction.

Not comfortable getting boxes from the post office?

Office Depot sells huge ass boxes for cheap.

I've managed to ship a full set of 17x9 / 17x10 FN's to Canada for $250.

Original quote was $750 from Fed Ex since it was international.

I think it came out to like $35 to ship an S14 trunk with taillights in the US via DHL.

Box stuff up yourself.

You'll be surprised how much you'd save.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

oh actually my wife has to go to the post office every day for her work so she'll get me some, and THANX AGAIN EVERYONE!!!!!!!!

[MrFairlady]

yeah - GODdamn.All that stuff Should be hardly anything to ship.

I've shipped 2 Large Seats for less than that TO HAWAII!!!
Fedex - get a fedex account and you save some $$ + come right out of your account.

Gotta get better at estimating Shipping quotes.I've shipped so much I've gotten DAMN good @ guessing.If I'm wroing - I eat it - which is what you need to do.

[MetricHotrods.com]

i dont call BS at all. the 2 side rear panels exceed the max size (not weight) of regular mail and must be shipped space available mail. (SAM). SAM mail has extra taxes ect ect on top of being more expensive all around.

i say you guys need to refund each other, take out the largest items, and renegotiate a price.

if im wrong, and you are a scammer F U C K Y O U

that is all.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

well its up to brn2slid if he wants to pay me back some of the shipping cost, I'm just gonna ship the rest of the stuff and be done with it, I value my reputation and I value every bit of knowledge/help/friends I've gained from zilvia.

[Phlip]

Buyer and seller agree to a price shipped...
Buyer pays seller that previously agreed upon price...
Seller had not properly checked to see what the price of shipping would be, only to find that he has gone to the wrong place and is being gouged...

*this is where the breakdown occurs*
What seller SHOULD do is go to the buyer with "Look, shipping was a bit more than what I thought it would be, I need you to help me out, or I will need to decline your sale and refund your dough."
It is at THIS point that the buyer would either agree to kick out some more money, or accept his money back.
-BUT-
What I took from what was originally a reviewed thread, the seller had since spent some money and not yet shipped all of the items, nor had he reached any such agreement to more than double the cost of shipping from his buyer, and in such, had painted himself into a corner...
Now, instead of trying to work for an amicable resolution, he attempts to BULLY the buyer, who is still looking for his parts at a previously agreed-upon price shipped, into giving him more money for shipping that is only as high as it is because of where he went to ship the items.
in the meantime...
Broken down sale has gone public, and now the seller must go into damage control, as this situation is largely his fault, he must do what he must to shift the blame to the buyer, all while getting the additional money for shipping, which can STILL be lessened by going ANYWHERE else. The issue now, is that now that it is in the public, and forum staff does not want it's members screwed, he is warned that he has a week to handle the shit, or he will be banned from the marketplace for one week, and then banned outright if no resolution is made...
Forum admin is busy with family/education/houses and shit, situation decays. All the while, seller is ARGUING that it is his right to not send anything at any cost to him, even though it is HIS messup that caused this whole quagmire.
2 weeks later, forum moderator drops in and sees that admin neglected to finish the banning processes, but that the situation is still not properly handled, so seller is banned from the marketplace, effectively punching the 1-week clock on his time to make it happen; parts or reimbursement...
NOW the seller, back against the wall, wants someone to agree with him, even though the situation, as clearly presented, is all on his shoulders and the onus is clearly on him to make it right, starting a thread to argue his side. The problem is that he uses ONLY his side of it, and the fact of the matter here is that people actually look at it from all sides and no one will fully agree with him...
Oo_Skyline_oO, you have failed us again... You have about 6.5 days to make this right, and as we are not a grievance forum, this thread will survive no longer.