HELP!!Getting STUCK in DRIVEWAYS

[hk240sx08]

hello fellow zilvians,

I have a really annoying car issue to discuss about. Just yesterday, I installed some megan street coilovers for my s13 with a 1 finger gap in all four corners. The megans are okay, and the drop looks nice. However the main PROBLEM is that i keep getting STUCK on "deep" driveways with the spinning wheel not getting traction when the car is at a angle...(twice! already) and its getting pretty annoying and embarrassing pushing my car... (im pretty sure alot can relate to this...)

so my questions are...

1.How did you guys overcome this annoying issue? or what do you guys do to avoid this from happening? advice?

2.I'm obviously aware that i have a open diff, and im considering planning to get a used s13 vlsd, would this help out with the non-spinning wheel? or does it have to be a 1.5/2way lsd?

PLEASE help!! :bowdown: any would be very appreciated. :D

P.S: and i seriously feel like im getting :boink:by these driveways...

[I10cruiser]

get a welded/ / worth the money for stuff like this...or bigger wheels and higher ride hight. . :P:Pgl

[Dousan_PG]

get an lsd or welded diff

or drive faster up/down the driveways

[I10cruiser]

oh and more angle:P. . where in los angeles do you stay by? .

[WoolyS14DET]

Yep more angle and also maybe not going in/out of driveways ?? You gotta pay to be low !!

[Xbroke_kidX]

Just push that bitch :snoop:, or welded/lsd.

[Almedarj]

you just gotta learn how to take driveways better you'll get used to it i got megan streets and i'm slammed and got no prob getting into driveways and i'm in industry and west co there some pretty steep bastards out here

[Fonix36]

fuck all that noise

just dont use drive ways 18 point turns are better

[holaback]

Pop lock and drop it

[s13tilldeath*]

Cut a hole in the floor board and go flinstone style! That way you wont have to get out to push. just run like hell.

Just angle more when you pull in and get a welded/lsd on that bitch.

[hk240sx08]

WOW!! so many replies already :D thank you thank you

so im assuming that a VLSD would not help me out??

haha dont go in/out driveways? but they're like everywhere!!?

hmm...more angle? can you guys give me some example of more angle?, taking drive ways better? haha never drove this low before (and my rear spinning tire is like raised 4-5 inches)

yeah...im a noob...appreciate the help :D

[96Turbo]

instead of driving up the driveway straight on, take it at a angle. that way you will be less likely to be stuck with a wheel off the ground

or why dont you just park on the street?

and yes, a vlsd would help get you unstuck. Just make sure you don't buy one that's blown

[hk240sx08]

haha...i do take driveways on a angle or else ill be scratching everything straight on...but thats when the rear wheels magically begin to float...>.<

how do you know if a vlsd is blown or not?

[nismoskyz]

and give yourself some momentum (go faster!) so when you get to that point where that 4th wheel is in the air, the momentum will roll it through to the point where it can grip again.

also, im not sure how well this would work but i would think if you soften the dampening on the rear coils you'll probably not have the tire get so high off the ground either.. so: less chance of getting stuck.

[iHeartTheTouge]

keeping a couple of 2x4's in your trunk work too.

[JRas]

I don't know what your going up, but my guess is your doing it wrong

my driveway is horrible, not only is it steep but it's cobblestone and not perfectly flat

just go up it the right angle you'll get used to it.

[LB.Motoring]

Ramp that shit, just take it at 75mph

[airhead]

same problem i had untill
i fender rolled and hammerd a bit inside the rear wells
and got smaller tires

even lowered the car more and that dosnt happend no more

what size wheel and tires are you running?
and have you fender rolled?

[fliprayzin240sx]

Well even a VLSD should be good. Only thing is depending on the condition on it, it maybe take a bit for it to lock. It may not lock right away.

[DataXUnknown]

Park on the street. I would recommend welded diff, the fun factor is great and people always look at your car when they hear the squeaking of the tires. But yeah like others said, some momentum will help.

I've never seen a situation where people get stuck on driveways, only heard of them. I have a lot of friends with slammed cars and they all make it onto some crazy driveways pretty easily. Good luck!!!

[hk240sx08]

haha keep a couple of 2x4 sounds like a good back up idea :D

Jras? are you running open diff or lsd, etc?

Its funny cause it happened to me at a gas station...man it was embarrasing LOL

[hk240sx08]

airhead: running 16x8 205/50

not rolled yet...but how does it relate???

[JRas]

haha keep a couple of 2x4 sounds like a good back up idea :D

Jras? are you running open diff or lsd, etc?

Its funny cause it happened to me at a gas station...man it was embarrasing LOL

I run an open-differential ( at least at the moment )

I basically open my garage put it in 1st and slowly take off up the driveway my tires rub the fenders most of the time.

I've never got stuck...just about taking angles right, and when you start to slip go down a little bit and try again.

I should take a video of me going up my driveway :D

[hk240sx08]

yeah you should, might help me LOL

[DataXUnknown]

I would like to see videos and pictures of people getting stuck and people going it successfully! lol I don't see how people can get stuck going at a super angle. Maybe there are some funky ass driveways.

[dmax_silvia_s13]

Fuck I have a BRUTAL driveway for this. Have only got stuck a couple times surprisingly though.
My driveway sucks because if I go fast to not get stuck I smash my bumper and If i get slow I get stuck or almost get stuck haha.
But I have now mastered it to an art. Lots of angle and just find the right speed!

[hk240sx08]

haha maybe i should record myself getting stuck at my local Shell LOL...i should probably change gas station location :(

how much do coilover setting/height affects this??

[sijia10358]

save money, drive faster!

[iMAGE976]

i would put a lot of weight on the side that is pegg legging it up the drive way....or if you go fast enough this shouldn't be a problem....=)

[hk240sx08]

Fuck I have a BRUTAL driveway for this. Have only got stuck a couple times surprisingly though.
My driveway sucks because if I go fast to not get stuck I smash my bumper and If i get slow I get stuck or almost get stuck haha.
But I have now mastered it to an art. Lots of angle and just find the right speed!

and what is the right speed? haha...man i wanna over this driveway issue already..

[dmax_silvia_s13]

Just go up your driveway faster then you did when you got stuck. Whatever speed you want just faster then when you got stuck..

[duffman1278]

I've got a pretty steep drive way and I just get some momentum and go at it at an angle. Eventually you just get used to it and get better at it.

[hk240sx08]

kooL thanks for the advice :)

[pinkarrowsnow]

dude your 3wheeling it haha i do it all the time just let the car roll back and come in at a different angle my driveways the same way. Or get another diff haha.

[airhead]

i was saying this because when that happends
one side lifts up puts pressure on the other side
kinda like tire gets pushed all the way into the wheel wells and gets stuck

dont know if you have that problem. thats how i used to get stuck

but i have vlsd so maybe that help too

[LongGrain]

welded diff.

done.

[sonomadrifter]

More speed works when you get in a situation that you know, for example your driveway, but entering a gas station can cause more harm then good if it is new territory.

Welded is going to be your best bet if not getting stuck is souly your goal (not to beat a dead horse).

Have you tryed your brakes or parking brake?

Remember kids when it comes to welding diffs: WELD-LOCK

http://zilvia.net/f/advertiser-specials-sales/159852-official-weld-locd-lsd-thread-version-4-now-only-75-version-3-60-a.html

[brunswick240]

aim the front of your car at the lower end of the sidewalk. thats about how extreme everyone is talking about....well depending on the skirt of the driveway. everytime i turn into any drive, gas station, drive way, i always go at a real extreme angle and real slow. I've gotten a couple people to lay on their horns for me :P

[ryguy]

I have to back into my driveway at a 45 degree angle, you will get used to it.

[treken2t87]

1 finger gap between the car and the ground........

here's a crazy idea

Why don't you adjust your ride's height to a practical level? It doesn't have to be 4x4 status, but your exhaust doesn't have to make sparks everytime you switch lanes on the freeway...

[OSGeddie]

get an lsd or welded diff

or drive faster up/down the driveways

Amen to that.

Thats the solution.

[kuruptR]

more angle so you can keep all your wheels on the ground.

[sc300fivespd]

i can relate, i go up driveways just fine.. hahha dude rise that thing up u dont need to be that low, and LA streets SUCK how do you not scrape EVERYWHERE...

[dynamicck]

right before you get stuck....CLUTCH KICK that beeeeetch

[iHeartTheTouge]

1 finger gap between the car and the ground........

here's a crazy idea

Why don't you adjust your ride's height to a practical level? It doesn't have to be 4x4 status, but your exhaust doesn't have to make sparks everytime you switch lanes on the freeway...

that is insane. angle, speed, and sometimes 2x4's get the job done. man up.

[LongGrain]

1 finger gap between the car and the ground........

here's a crazy idea

Why don't you adjust your ride's height to a practical level? It doesn't have to be 4x4 status, but your exhaust doesn't have to make sparks everytime you switch lanes on the freeway...

umm.. pretty sure that means 1 finger of wheel gap...

megans dont even go low enough put the car 1 finger from the ground...

and even if he was that low, why raise the car? if it is high enough off the ground to roll forward and backward, you have plenty of clearence.

you should never have to raise your car, thats blasphemy...

[treken2t87]

My car is on coilovers, but my lowest point still has at least 2.5" of clearance...I guess I just like the peace of mind I get from not scraping on every possible thing while I drive...or not being able to get up my own driveway LOL

[LongGrain]

My car is on coilovers, but my lowest point still has at least 2.5" of clearance...I guess I just like the peace of mind I get from not scraping on every possible thing while I drive...or not being able to get up my own driveway LOL

yea, that works for some people, but the rest of us actually want our cars to look cool.

different strokes i guess.

[hk240sx08]

More speed works when you get in a situation that you know, for example your driveway, but entering a gas station can cause more harm then good if it is new territory.

Welded is going to be your best bet if not getting stuck is souly your goal (not to beat a dead horse).

Have you tryed your brakes or parking brake?

Remember kids when it comes to welding diffs: WELD-LOCK

http://zilvia.net/f/advertiser-specials-sales/159852-official-weld-locd-lsd-thread-version-4-now-only-75-version-3-60-a.html


how do i use my brakes to get unstuck???

[treken2t87]

different strokes i guess.

Not so much different strokes...but different priorities....

I like my car to look good, but if it comes at the expense of replacing parts, or limiting where I can drive my daily....count me out :ghey:

[hk240sx08]

haha...yeah the car does indeed look KooL, but getting stuck on a "driveway" and pushing it kinda takes all that KooLness away....LOL

[hk240sx08]

Not so much different strokes...but different priorities....

I like my car to look good, but if it comes at the expense of replacing parts, or limiting where I can drive my daily....count me out :ghey:


kinda agree too

[adrians_s13]

I have VLSD and I still get stuck sometimes when I baby the throttle, I just have to put a lot more throttle into it.

Its all in the inertia.

[Om1kron]

get an lsd or welded diff

or drive faster up/down the driveways

Aero can also be destroyed on the streets, so take pictures! lol

[allntrlundrgrnd]

i dont understand why you guys are saying to do it at an angle. angling into it is what causes one wheel to lift and therefor spin.

if you can hit it straight on, or just go fast enough into it to pass the point of spinning a wheel.

[SochBAT]

I'm really surprised. Of all responses, I only see 1 good response.

Raise that shit. Don't be a fucking snowplow.

[thefro526]

Weld your diff or get an (V)LSD.

Or try backing in and see if you get up.

Or just raise your car to a sane level, there's no reason to be that low.



Now go do it and get it done.

[slothonaleash]

i dont understand why you guys are saying to do it at an angle. angling into it is what causes one wheel to lift and therefor spin.

if you can hit it straight on, or just go fast enough into it to pass the point of spinning a wheel.

the point of angling it is so that you don't rip your front bumper off or just beach yourself on your tension rod brackets.

going up my driveway straight on in a very low car would be literally impossible

i already scrape my tension rod brackets approaching my driveway nearly horizontally

[holaback]

Jesus what the fuck how did this thread even to to two pages. Get a fuckin 2-way lsd and your problem is solved along w/ having a nice lsd.

[allntrlundrgrnd]

the point of angling it is so that you don't rip your front bumper off or just beach yourself on your tension rod brackets.

going up my driveway straight on in a very low car would be literally impossible

i already scrape my tension rod brackets approaching my driveway nearly horizontally

did you even read what I said, or any of the thread for that matter, or are you just talking out your ass?

no shit, but its the angle that causes one tire to lift and spin( the point of this thread)

I said if you CAN, going straight in would keep both tires planted.

[hk240sx08]

Jesus what the fuck how did this thread even to to two pages. Get a fuckin 2-way lsd and your problem is solved along w/ having a nice lsd.


i dont think everyone has enought money to buy a 2 way lsd...

[wow-thats-a-cool-car]

just make the ground lower lol

or move to place with a flat drive way

[nismo240sxdrifter]

...or bigger wheels and higher ride hight. . :P:Pgl
:D

http://www.mhtwheels.com/images/gallery/DONK-28LAWLESS.jpg

[hk240sx08]

Lllloooolll!!!!!

[hk240sx08]

okay.....i just raised my wheel gap from 1 finger to 2 fingers comfortably....would this be a "sane-able" height?? but theres still some spinning....

[holaback]

i dont think everyone has enought money to buy a 2 way lsd...

Gotta pay to play man. Of course you didn't foresee this happening. I thought it was common knowledge poping 3 wheels and getting stuck places w/ coilovers so a lsd is needed.

[Kamburrito]

dude.. im getting in and out of driveways .. and my car is almost kissing the ground .. i mean .. my exhaust piping is scraping some deflectors on the road .. haha .. my advice is .. know your streets .. know your driveways .. if you know you wont make it up the driveway .. then dont go up .. that's your fault for having your car low .. i go through the same thing.. get a welded .. go at the driveway with a hard ass angle .. and gain some momentum ..

[Bushido]

in time, you will be able to determine if your car will scrape/get stuck before attempting to clear the incline/bump.

[dynamicck]

"THROW SOME D'S ON IT!"

+1 for the DONK's lol

[ellisonrox]

this used to happen to me quite a bit too, but after installing a rear strut bar it stopped happening completely

*shrug* go figure. it's cheap enough to try

[Chernobyl]

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/newtheory/05102008091.jpg

I 3-wheel every single time. It's the only way to get up the driveway.
Never a problem with a 2-way.

[lilredstiffy]

Actually the solution is more angle.
Drive as close to parallel as possible until one rear wheel is 'on' and cut in after that. You'll be fine.

[kuruptR]

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/newtheory/05102008091.jpg

I 3-wheel every single time. It's the only way to get up the driveway.
Never a problem with a 2-way.

Lol if you had more angle you would not 3 wheel.

[Addicted2Kouki]

just get bigger wheels!
you can still be low but the lowest part of your car wont be as low.

I was on 16s and i was scraping on everything.
i went back to my 18s when i bought tires
and now it only scrapes on bad dips.

[og drifter]

get a welded diff

[Chernobyl]

Lol if you had more angle you would not 3 wheel.

Note how the lifted wheel is right next to the curb. If I had more angle, my front bumper would have been torn off and under my car.

Edit: Now that I think about it, I don't give a shit since I have a proper LSD anyway. Just contributing media to this thread.

[hk240sx08]

so is a vlsd worth it? or should i wait a while for a real lsd???

[iHeartTheTouge]

REAL lsd or weld it. vlsd's suck. they overheat and end up as an open.

[ryguy]

Note how the lifted wheel is right next to the curb. If I had more angle, my front bumper would have been torn off and under my car.

You need to angle it so that both right side wheels (or left if coming from the other direction) are on the curb before cutting harder right.

[palmdale_mob]

Why is this thread still open?
Take a mean ass angle or buy a 2 way, or even weld that bitch
Done..
Or maybe even instead of coming up on your left side swoop over to your right or vice versa
Thats all there is to it
:lockd:
please do it

[sc300fivespd]

:D

http://www.mhtwheels.com/images/gallery/DONK-28LAWLESS.jpg

how did you get a picture of my car? did i send them to you? :mepoke:

[Matej]

This wouldn't help with 3-wheeling, but has anyone tried putting little wheels on the bottom of their frame rails? Haha.

[Row]

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/newtheory/05102008091.jpg


Same thing happens to me when I go up steep driveways. Time for an LSD or a welded diff for me. As for your issue hk240sx08 , I also recently installed Megan coil overs. Yes it gets annoying at times. Try taking the driveways at more of an angle and drive up faster on the steep driveways, That's the advice from my experience. I knew what I was getting myself into with a lowered 240 :bite:

[handinpants]

buy a diff. haha, i have yet to see someone get stuck, can you post a picture please

[handinpants]

how did you get a picture of my car? did i send them to you? :mepoke:
dood that thing is annoying but in a way kinda cool. you should put some offroad tires on there

[sc300fivespd]

have you guys seen those cross walk speed humps with the flat top? i saw a civic get stuck on one with all 4 wheels off the ground LOLOLOL. but heay thats cause honduh fails ROFL

[sc300fivespd]

dood that thing is annoying but in a way kinda cool. you should put some offroad tires on there

i was thinking some 32inch dubs would tie it together nicely, then i can do this>>:snoop:

[hk240sx08]

LOL all four wheels off the ground! LMFAO :D

[sc300fivespd]

LOL all four wheels off the ground! LMFAO :D

hell yea dude i was soo pissed i had nothing to take a pic with.:duh:

[keistyle]

shimmy up the drive way

[hk240sx08]

shimmy up the drive way



shimmy? yea im new to alot of these words lol

[sc300fivespd]

shimmy up the drive way


shimmy are you serious bro? LOLOLOL:fruit::fruit::fruit::fruit:

[OTG Vinyl]

Slammed cars are so much fun. :keke:

I ripped my last car's bumper off probably 5-6 times.

[Quail]

I dont use my drive :(

[nismo racer]

Welcome to being low, I know my cities streets like the back of my hand. I know bumps in the road, I know the streets that have nasty dips, I know what drive ways are gnarly, LOL I avoid all of them at all costs. Youll eventually memorize routes that will get you places you need to go. Good luck dude

[brett-hancock]

Did you ask this many questions about sex the first time you fucked??? LOL J/K bro!!! But like everyone else has said the cheapest, simplest solution would be to weld your diff!!! Damn near free if you do it yourself!!!

[SilviaSR20DET]

weld it, I had the same problem getting into my steep driveway and its nice now because i can go extra slow into the garage =)

[ayuaddict]

being low is for gays.

[wgJoY]

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h163/newtheory/05102008091.jpg

I 3-wheel every single time. It's the only way to get up the driveway.
Never a problem with a 2-way.

Is it just me or is that driveway... not steep at all. Looks like you got it easy.. Your whole driveway is sloped. My driveway has a steep incline, then it flattens out.. very prone to scraping with something like that.
stuck? not yet :ddog:

:D

http://www.mhtwheels.com/images/gallery/DONK-28LAWLESS.jpg


http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f151/wgkilljoy/4a4d6f13-e216-4e69-871a-8b32885dc6b.jpg

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[Subaru]

put some hydraulics on it and just flex the body.. lol jkk.. 2x4's sound like a good idea

[OTG Vinyl]

put some hydraulics on it and just flex the body.. lol jkk.. 2x4's sound like a good idea

Try 2x12's and still overhang on the sides. :hs:

[hk240sx08]

anymore advice or funny stories?? :D

[RedS13guy]

gain speed towards the driveway, fuck the front bumper, scratches never hurt anyone =]

[tramp_drift240]

anymore advice or funny stories?? :D

i constantly got hung up on the curb/slope to my parking spot/garage.

id have to use another car to push mine up into the driveway, then jump back in the 240 to pull it into the garage.

who needs a straight frame. :Ownedd:

[Norty]

When i first put my coilovers on i was almost late to work cause i got stuck for like 5 min. But I gots an extreme drive way but for the folks that are slammed and don't have coils and anybody that has them and just doesn't know the reason all us coilover folks get stuck is because our suspension doesn't move enough like a spring strut combo and its just something we gots to live with. They weren't made for driveways anyway LOL:Ownedd:

[hk240sx08]

LOL good one

[hk240sx08]

i constantly got hung up on the curb/slope to my parking spot/garage.

id have to use another car to push mine up into the driveway, then jump back in the 240 to pull it into the garage.

who needs a straight frame. :Ownedd:



LOL!...good one