LED Bulbs For Cluster And Other Parts

[FinkenS14]

Hey guys I want to replace the bulbs in my cluster, interior overhead light, and sidemarker lights with LED's but Im unsure of wat type LED's to get, and wat all is involved with changing the ones in the cluster. Are they soldered in or are they a 194 type bulb.

Thanks guys.

[ni5mo240]

cluster has 194 bulb

[chetacheese]

cluster has 194 bulb

yup 194 bulb is direct replacement. just bought my and installing it soon. ill post pics soon enough.

sidemarkers and interior dome lights can be created with any led in your preference. just buy a circuit board and solder it the way you want.

[FinkenS14]

Alright thanks guys. Does anyone know how many LED's ill need for the cluster?

[Greddy323]

i bought a kit for australia

$30 for wide angle LEDS

[Greddy323]

Alright thanks guys. Does anyone know how many LED's ill need for the cluster?

i got 6 LEDS

[DreamN]

if analog then you'll just need 3. if HUD, you'll need 5.

[DreamN]

i bought a kit for australia

$30 for wide angle LEDS

I hope you got a blow job with that price, because leds for your gauge cluster shouldn't run you anywhere near that price.

[bejota180sx]

$30 would include shipping right? cause when you buy them individually wide angles cost bout 5 to 6 dollars each if they are 194 type...

[DreamN]

damn where are you guys buying these overpriced LEDs.

If they're single LED bulbs you guys are getting ripped off, but if they're mulitple (i.e. 5 LEDs per bulb) then that's decent.

[axiomatik]

I posted quite a bit of info in this thread:
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/57215-red-guage-cluster-needles-how-2.html

here's a couple of relevent posts. you can find more info in the thread above.

Well, I thought that I would add to this old-ass thread rather than making a whole new one, try to consolidate this information in one place instead of spread all over the place. I installed JDM cluster on my s13 recently, and the lighting was dimmer and looked a little pinkish, so I thought I would try some wide-angle LED bulb-replacements. I love the way VW gauges look, so I tried blue first.

Here is how the cluster looked originally:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/nbrindley/240SX/IMG_4021.jpg

I first replaced all of the bulbs with the blue LEDs, and it was just too much blue. Also, the odometer and the legends for the warning lamps were pretty hard to read. Another side effect that I hadn't considered before is that my redline completely disappeared. I was hoping that it would be brighter than the stock bulbs, because they were pretty dim, but unfortunately, they are about exactly the same brightness.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/nbrindley/240SX/IMG_4027.jpg

So I changed the odometer and warning lamp legend lights back to the bulbs for now.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/nbrindley/240SX/IMG_4030.jpg

Next time I order some LEDs, I am going to try white, according to their data sheet, they are about 50% brighter than the blue ones. I'll post results again when I get them. I also plan on replacing the warning lamps with LEDs as well.


Sorry it took me so long to get back to this thread, I was out of town on business all this week. Anyway, these are the bulbs that I used:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/nbrindley/240SX/webpage.jpg

This is the back of the digital cluster. I don't know how the analog cluster differs.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/nbrindley/240SX/IMG_4062.jpg

The lights that are so professionally circled are the primary illumination lights. The blue one on the bottom I believe is for the clock and the dark brown ones on the left are the individual warning lamps. Number one (1) lights up the legend for the warning lamps (see the next pic for reference). Number two (2) is for the Temp. gauge. Numbers (3), (4), & (5) in combination illuminate the tach and the fuel gauge. In the picture below, I've circled the tach needle in number 5, but really I think it is just illuminated by all three, though I am not certain. Finally, number (6) lights up the odometer and the trip odo.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/nbrindley/240SX/IMG_4030markedup.jpg

What you see on the back of the cluster are actually little sockets that the bulbs sit in. They come out with just a quarter turn, and then the bulb will just pull out of the socket. I believe the smaller bulbs are #73/74 bulbs, though I haven't found any confirmation. If anyone can confirm this, let me know.

[SimpleSexy180]

do not get the single wedge 194 bulbs for cluster.

get...
http://www.superbrightleds.com/products/car/WLED-x5_mm.jpg
5 wedge to spread the light out evenly throughout the cluster
Super Bright LEDs - Miniature Wedge Base Bulbs (http://www.superbrightleds.com/mini-wedge.html)

and use single wedge for the sidemarkers =)

#74 led bulbs for the smaller sockets such as clock light.

[titopr06]

anyone know where i can get white leds for s13 map lights?

[DrftKingIII]

I got super wide angle LED's from superbrightleds.com and love them.

[az_240]

I want to know how to make the whole cluster light up WHITE like the 0 is on that S13 cluster.

I have some of the 5 led wide angle bulbs and they are ok... still have some slight dark spots on my s14 cluster. The main problem is there is a tint of blue... I was hoping to get a straight white.

[sleepy_s13]

anyone have pics with white leds in the cluster

[blackrms13]

anyone have pics with white leds in the cluster
it'll still look slightly blue-ish because the blue "condom" thats in the cluster

[EDacIouSX]

what about the climate control led's? I know for sure those are not 168 since they are much smaller.


Is this the right one??

NeoWedge series LED Lamp specs (http://www.superbrightleds.com/specs/NEO.htm)

http://www.superbrightleds.com/products/car/NEO3-x_mm.jpg

[MrFairlady]

Been working on my 2 Speedo Clusters (1 car's Green & 1's Red) 2 JDM Digi Climate LEDS - finally got them Figured out - Turns out I bought a bunch of 3mm LEDS (Not 12v) and kept blowing them.
Then,ordered the Twist Wedge LEDs and They are perfect for the JDM Climate.
Totally Forgot the Headlight switch,Hazard etc buttons around the Steering column have Bulbs in them.

SO I guess I need to put a Resistor in Line w/ the LED I'm mounting in order for the 12v not to blow it yes??

[chetacheese]

just installed mine. got the 194 wedge bulbs from super bright leds last month. bought the white bulbs, once installed they came out really light blue.

[WangonwWarrior]

SEARCH PEOPLE

http://capslockhouse.pbwiki.com/f/capslock.png

[S14Cuhh]

anyone know a DIY to take out the cluster? tips? advice?

[WangonwWarrior]

anyone know a DIY to take out the cluster? tips? advice?


Hell yeah. Unbolt the 4 bolts and drop the steering column it will save TONS of time and then its obvious from their

[rb25crazy]

I want to know how to make the whole cluster light up WHITE like the 0 is on that S13 cluster.

I have some of the 5 led wide angle bulbs and they are ok... still have some slight dark spots on my s14 cluster. The main problem is there is a tint of blue... I was hoping to get a straight white.

can you post some pics of your s14 gauge cluster with the leds? and how many did you need total, and what kinds? i'm thinking of doing it too. i'd like to know how to get that white like that s13 hud too. if you ever find out let me know if you don't mind

thanks!

[kuruptR]

what about the climate control led's? I know for sure those are not 168 since they are much smaller.


Is this the right one??

NeoWedge series LED Lamp specs (http://www.superbrightleds.com/specs/NEO.htm)

http://www.superbrightleds.com/products/car/NEO3-x_mm.jpg

pop them out the measurements are there. If you figure it out, post it up on here. Im removing the climate control to put a led board in there cant stand those two instrument lights. Even when they work they flicker... I find my self having to hit the dash to get them to light up.

[blackrms13]

pop them out the measurements are there. If you figure it out, post it up on here. Im removing the climate control to put a led board in there cant stand those two instrument lights. Even when they work they flicker... I find my self having to hit the dash to get them to light up.
just so u know he has a s14, so its a lil different than the s13

[MrFairlady]

pop them out the measurements are there. If you figure it out, post it up on here. Im removing the climate control to put a led board in there cant stand those two instrument lights. Even when they work they flicker... I find my self having to hit the dash to get them to light up.


JDM Digi Climate Control LEDs are the NE0-3 buklbs BTW - just replaced mine last week.

You will need 3 bulbs (color of your choice) and 1 White bulb

The white bulb is for the Hot/Cold needles - they have Blue/red flim over the Button so Color will look better WHITE.
They are a P.I.T.A to Twist in there "Good".I ended up taking my unit Totally apart and twisted them in - tested them and got them all working - then put it back together.

[Matej]

www.autolumination.com Tail Light Brake Light Turn Signal LED Bulbs (http://www.autolumination.com) has the best selection.


I lyke 2 mix n match cause i just wanna b myself ya'llz.

http://www.matejblahut.com/photo/auto/part/clustorrr0101.jpg

[EDacIouSX]

alright, i'll measure em tomorrow or wed. and i'll let ya'll knowwwwwwwwwww

[ZenkiKid]

wheres the cheapest place i can get LEDs?

[axiomatik]

do not get the single wedge 194 bulbs for cluster.

get...
http://www.superbrightleds.com/products/car/WLED-x5_mm.jpg
5 wedge to spread the light out evenly throughout the cluster
Super Bright LEDs - Miniature Wedge Base Bulbs (http://www.superbrightleds.com/mini-wedge.html)

and use single wedge for the sidemarkers =)

#74 led bulbs for the smaller sockets such as clock light.

The single wedge LEDs that I posted work fine for the digital cluster. The illumination is perfectly even across the entire cluster. The LEDs have an inverse cone molded into the end, diffusing the light over a much wider angle than standard LEDs.

Also, for those that are interested in converting their S13 HVAC to LED lighting, I posted quite a bit of info in this post:

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/57215-red-guage-cluster-needles-how-4.html#post1021220

Also in that link is information on converting the buttons to LEDs. However, the LEDs EDacIouSX posted might be a drop in replacement. I'm not sure, though, they weren't available when I did my conversion.

[240trainee]

Problem is with an Analog cluster, you have 3 bulbs illuminating a lot more space.

I need to do this with my kouki cluster when it comes in, figure how I want to illuminate it. I'm thinking amber, but I dunno.

[SimpleSexy180]

The single wedge LEDs that I posted work fine for the digital cluster. The illumination is perfectly even across the entire cluster. The LEDs have an inverse cone molded into the end, diffusing the light over a much wider angle than standard LEDs.

Also, for those that are interested in converting their S13 HVAC to LED lighting, I posted quite a bit of info in this post:

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/57215-red-guage-cluster-needles-how-4.html#post1021220

Also in that link is information on converting the buttons to LEDs. However, the LEDs EDacIouSX posted might be a drop in replacement. I'm not sure, though, they weren't available when I did my conversion.

Problem is with an Analog cluster, you have 3 bulbs illuminating a lot more space.

I need to do this with my kouki cluster when it comes in, figure how I want to illuminate it. I'm thinking amber, but I dunno.


yeah, with analog it was pretty weak using single wedge. It would just light up certain spots. Bright in one spot then fade out.

[bejota180sx]

so for s13 analog cluster which one of these would i need for it to look uniform, so many i don't know which ones to friggin choose!


http://superlumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/194sshs_g_wm.jpg (http://superlumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/194sshs_g_wm.jpg)
Outfitted with the latest Super High-Flux low profile Leds
Designed especially for gauges, and applications requiring a large uniform field of bright light
Note: These have the all metal heat sinks for constant-on applications to reduce heat related failures
Only 9mm diameter x 24mm overall




http://superlumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/194_cs_g_wm.jpg (http://superlumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/194_cs_g_wm.jpg)
The Widest, Brightest and Best 194 168 W5W 2825 Ever Made!
Outfitted with the latest Super High-Flux low profile Leds.
Aluminum heat sink keeps them cool in hot & smaller housings to avoid heat related failure
Designed especially for gauges, and applications requiring extra cooling
12mm diameter x 23mm overall




http://superlumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/194_ss_cool_g_wm.jpg (http://superlumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/194_ss_cool_g_wm.jpg)
The Widest, Brightest and Best 194 168 W5W 2825 Ever Made!
Outfitted with the latest Super Wide High-Flux low profile Leds
Designed especially for gauges, & applications requiring a super-wide large uniform field of bright light
Only 10mm diameter x 26mm overall


or these

http://superlumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/194_matrix_g_wm.jpg (http://superlumination.com/images/auto_bulbs/194_matrix_g_wm.jpg)
One super wide Oval forward facing led plus 4 side facing leds for 270 degrees of light output

[bejota180sx]

oh btw... how about those little tiny buld that iluminates the clock? what size is that?

[SimpleSexy180]

my post on page one, and at the very end will tell you.

[az_240]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/livinglegendlll/white-1.jpg
Not my car but this is what they look like.

These are some white 5 LED bulbs. Paid $30 shipped from someone on here including the clock light

Would be nice if the needles lit up better

I also did my climate control with super white leds. It was a bitch and doesnt even look that great.

After many hours toying with different resitors and how to make the light enter the light pipe best I realized the only way to make the climate control look good is by putting an LED on each button. Otherwise the light does not distribute evenly with that shitty light pipe even with the flat top leds

[khmer1]

love that one on top need to do that on mines nice and fresh looking

[bejota180sx]

my post on page one, and at the very end will tell you.

oh shit i didn't see the clock size there! thanks!

hey i was looking at my cluster(its the kph cluster in case that matters any, they look the same to me but just in case...) do i need 3 leds or 5 to include to lower 2?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v685/nbrindley/240SX/IMG_4062.jpg
where the digital has that #6 bulb, the analog has one at each side but its colored like the one BELOW the #1... do i need those also? or just the middle 3

[Gorilla Unit 33]

is it possible to change the color of your HUD or does it not change no matter what color bulb you put in there? Im just trying to match all the lights on my dash. My radio is blue, my climate controll doesnt light up (LOL) my cluster is this lite white almost a tint or orange (eeewwww) and my HUD is green :(.

[bejota180sx]

is it possible to change the color of your HUD or does it not change no matter what color bulb you put in there? Im just trying to match all the lights on my dash. My radio is blue, my climate controll doesnt light up (LOL) my cluster is this lite white almost a tint or orange (eeewwww) and my HUD is green :(.
yeah i always wondered that... i have never owned a digital cluster but, can you change the color of the display?

[rb25crazy]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/livinglegendlll/white-1.jpg
Not my car but this is what they look like.

These are some white 5 LED bulbs. Paid $30 shipped from someone on here including the clock light

Would be nice if the needles lit up better

I also did my climate control with super white leds. It was a bitch and doesnt even look that great.

After many hours toying with different resitors and how to make the light enter the light pipe best I realized the only way to make the climate control look good is by putting an LED on each button. Otherwise the light does not distribute evenly with that shitty light pipe even with the flat top leds




hey, do you know how many bulbs there are in an s14 gauge cluster like that one? and are they all the same size? i know noob q... also, what white is that? cool white? warm white? super white? i want to get bulbs just like that.

thanks in advanced for the help!

[bejota180sx]

hey, do you know how many bulbs there are in an s14 gauge cluster like that one? and are they all the same size? i know noob q... also, what white is that? cool white? warm white? super white? i want to get bulbs just like that.

thanks in advanced for the help!

i think those would be cool white(guessing...) and the size i think they are the same than s13... 194 bulbs

[rb25crazy]

how many do i need 5 led bulbs do i need for an s14 gauge cluster? the same amount as an s13?

[kuruptR]

http://www.superbrightleds.com/store/html/images/wled-whp.jpg

this type is one of the brightest. I have them for kouki city light, Signals... soo bright, get them in pure white.

I ordered 5 of these for my cluster and 3 for my heater controls

[importdude]

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a229/livinglegendlll/white-1.jpg
Not my car but this is what they look like.

These are some white 5 LED bulbs. Paid $30 shipped from someone on here including the clock light

Would be nice if the needles lit up better

I also did my climate control with super white leds. It was a bitch and doesnt even look that great.

After many hours toying with different resitors and how to make the light enter the light pipe best I realized the only way to make the climate control look good is by putting an LED on each button. Otherwise the light does not distribute evenly with that shitty light pipe even with the flat top leds


i got the same thing
but mine is freaking blue:(
i heard u got to remove some shit from cluster for it to light up bright white

[Touge180sx]

Dude just go to The Touge Shop - BUILDING RACECRAFT THAT FEELS GOOD! (http://www.TheTougeShop.com) Thats where I got mine, 26$ shipped came in 2 days! looks fkin money

[SRpetey]

Frys Electoronics has those 3mm led with resisters. I used those for all the buttons on the cluster bezel.

[Gorilla Unit 33]

no one knows if its possible to change the hud color?