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Devens240
11-12-2008, 04:34 PM
so i have a fender roller and i've pulled plenty of rear fenders before... but how does pulling front fenders (S13) work/look? pics wpuld be GREATLY appreciated. reason i need to pull: running 17X9 +15 (front) with 255/40/17 and not really wanting to go widebody

JRas
11-12-2008, 05:33 PM
they don't pull/flare nearly as much as the rears

just take your time, work slow, and use a heatgun

you can pull it off, I'm running 275/40/17 up front ( 17x10 +18 )

Devens240
11-12-2008, 06:19 PM
they don't pull/flare nearly as much as the rears

just take your time, work slow, and use a heatgun

you can pull it off, I'm running 275/40/17 up front ( 17x10 +18 )

thankyou for the response. any pics of your setup? S14 im guessing? and how much camber?

thankyou
Deven

racepar1
11-12-2008, 06:30 PM
so i have a fender roller and i've pulled plenty of rear fenders before... but how does pulling front fenders (S13) work/look? pics wpuld be GREATLY appreciated. reason i need to pull: running 17X9 +15 (front) with 255/40/17 and not really wanting to go widebody

A baseball bat works better for the front fenders, a roller works better for the rears. I am running 17x9 +12 gramlights with 255/40/17's on my fastback. I'll post pics in a couple days, I need to post the new wheel set-up in the maximum rubber and wheel fitment thread anyways. I initially pulled the fronts with a baseball bat to clear my 17x9 +20 fn's with 255's and I TRIED to touch them up a bit with a roller later, BAD idea. The roller flared them all ghey and I had to "smooth" them out with a hammer and a block of wood. It actually came out pretty good. With some bondo it could look quite dope, but fuck bondo.

JRas
11-12-2008, 07:23 PM
thankyou for the response. any pics of your setup? S14 im guessing? and how much camber?

thankyou
Deven

-3 degrees up front
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/2626/fenders055pa0.jpg

Matej
11-12-2008, 07:24 PM
Take them off, set them on the ground, preferably on a surface that won't scratch them, heat them up with a heat gun or at least a blow dryer, and then just hammer the lip from the inside, until you're satisfied.
Doing this doesn't give you the pulled lip look, but it makes them wider, it's easy to make them wider than any aftermarket fender.


My method makes them bulge out like this (not finished in the pic, but you get the idea).
http://www.matejblahut.com/personal/images/fender_02.jpg

airhead
11-12-2008, 07:42 PM
Take them off, set them on the ground, preferably on a surface that won't scratch them, heat them up with a heat gun or at least a blow dryer, and then just hammer the lip from the inside, until you're satisfied.
Doing this doesn't give you the pulled lip look, but it makes them wider, it's easy to make them wider than any aftermarket fender.


My method makes them bulge out like this (not finished in the pic, but you get the idea).
http://www.matejblahut.com/personal/images/fender_02.jpg

you just left your harness up there?
i just pulled the heck out of it wit zipties and tucked it right under the fender

i tried to roll my front fenders wit a tiny pole and the fender got crumbld looks like paper
im try again soon i get another fender

JVD
11-12-2008, 07:46 PM
you just left your harness up there?
i just pulled the heck out of it wit zipties and tucked it right under the fender
Ummm... relocating to the engine bay is waaaaay better than just tucking it up in the fender.

karl wasabi
11-12-2008, 07:56 PM
Ummm... relocating to the engine bay is waaaaay better than just tucking it up in the fender.

haha. But it looks really jank like that. There are better ways to do it. ie. extending the wiries and routing it along the shock tower. Over looks silly.

I've rolled fenders with a roller up front, but it isn't worth the time I think. I usually just use a 4lb sledge, or a baseball bat.

Another method that I haven't tried yet, but others have with great success, is to take off the fender, and lay in on a soft suface like grass or a bed, or whaterver, and hit the lip with a rubber mallet. Hope that helped.

whatda
11-12-2008, 08:13 PM
haha. But it looks really jank like that. There are better ways to do it. ie. extending the wiries and routing it along the shock tower. Over looks silly.

I've rolled fenders with a roller up front, but it isn't worth the time I think. I usually just use a 4lb sledge, or a baseball bat.

Another method that I haven't tried yet, but others have with great success, is to take off the fender, and lay in on a soft suface like grass or a bed, or whaterver, and hit the lip with a rubber mallet. Hope that helped.
thats what i did, one side came out good but the right side looks like a wide body fender. ill post a pic tomorrow of it

Sonic Motor
11-12-2008, 08:26 PM
haha. But it looks really jank like that. There are better ways to do it. ie. extending the wiries and routing it along the shock tower. Over looks silly.

I've rolled fenders with a roller up front, but it isn't worth the time I think. I usually just use a 4lb sledge, or a baseball bat.

Another method that I haven't tried yet, but others have with great success, is to take off the fender, and lay in on a soft suface like grass or a bed, or whaterver, and hit the lip with a rubber mallet. Hope that helped.

indeed it does look like jank. Coming from a guy, whos car is jank. So I know jank. Very well.

But yeah...when you roll/pull front fenders...make sure its bolt it down very well. or else its gonna look funny.

xsublimefrekx
11-12-2008, 08:27 PM
i took mine off the car car and rolled the lip with vice grips and then hammered them supper flat and it worked perfect

g-via
11-12-2008, 08:30 PM
make sure you take your time with the roller, use a heat gun religiously.

your front fenders are of much lighter gauge than your rears (or feels like it anyways) and it's easy to warp them in ways you would not desire.

if the roller won't make one full rotation of the fender, do it in stages, but make sure you roll it even. You don't want to get halfway thru a rotation, slip off the fender, and make a dent on the inside.

FYI your wire harness may get in the way of the roller, check before rolling so you don't hack it up.

Devens240
11-12-2008, 08:34 PM
thankyou for all the responses. so would i be better off taking it off and hammering it or rolling it on the car?

EDIT: and it i pull them instead of hammer them why is it better to use a bat?

bejota180sx
11-12-2008, 08:54 PM
but the tires/wheels on the car lower it slowly and use a bat covered with leather and shape it... it turns out better than a roller, i can't explain why because i have never done it myself (yet, since ill be putting 18x9.5 +15 soon) but from pictures ive seen it looks better this method... maybe someone can chime in and help out with this...

Devens240
11-12-2008, 09:10 PM
so just wedge the bat between the wheel and fender? that seems kinda sketchy lol. maybe i'll use a heat gun and be careful with my roller

Devens240
11-13-2008, 11:05 AM
anyone ave pics o front fenders they have pulled with a roller?

upSLIDEdown
11-13-2008, 01:04 PM
It still amazes me that people run the harness over the strut tower. Mine is down at the bottom of the tower, on the frame rail. I didn't extend shit. Unplug under dash, pull out, route through engine bay, back through firewall, plug in. Done.




Hah, if only it were as easy as it sounds. lol



Seriously though, mine is down on the frame rail and I didn't splice/extend anything. There are a couple clips up front in the headlight area that are holding some extra slack. If you break them/pull them out you can get enough to do it a little cleaner.


P.S. I've always liked Matej's fenders. A good how to/better instructions would be kickass.

JRas
11-13-2008, 01:14 PM
Ummm... relocating to the engine bay is waaaaay better than just tucking it up in the fender.

I fail to see why

if you attach it to the frame above the lip you're fine
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2766/wireharness004lq9.jpg

CrimsonRockett
11-13-2008, 01:20 PM
^That's how mine is and it's been just fine.

Given I rub the wire at the very back, I wrapped it with that plastic wrapping around the harness and taped it well.

No problems ever since.

Matej
11-13-2008, 01:24 PM
I fail to see why

if you attach it to the frame above the lip you're fine
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2766/wireharness004lq9.jpg
My fenders fit really bad when I tried that. It seems that S14's have a lot more room up there. I've had to redo the entire wiring in my car a few times until I at least got the essentials working correctly, I'd rather be safe than sorry and not have to deal with wiring again anytime soon.
Plus I hammered that entire part because my tires kept rubbing on it.

racepar1
11-13-2008, 03:17 PM
indeed it does look like jank. Coming from a guy, whos car is jank. So I know jank. Very well.

But yeah...when you roll/pull front fenders...make sure its bolt it down very well. or else its gonna look funny.

haha. But it looks really jank like that. There are better ways to do it. ie. extending the wiries and routing it along the shock tower. Over looks silly.

I've rolled fenders with a roller up front, but it isn't worth the time I think. I usually just use a 4lb sledge, or a baseball bat.

Another method that I haven't tried yet, but others have with great success, is to take off the fender, and lay in on a soft suface like grass or a bed, or whaterver, and hit the lip with a rubber mallet. Hope that helped.

It still amazes me that people run the harness over the strut tower. Mine is down at the bottom of the tower, on the frame rail. I didn't extend shit. Unplug under dash, pull out, route through engine bay, back through firewall, plug in. Done.




Hah, if only it were as easy as it sounds. lol



Seriously though, mine is down on the frame rail and I didn't splice/extend anything. There are a couple clips up front in the headlight area that are holding some extra slack. If you break them/pull them out you can get enough to do it a little cleaner.


P.S. I've always liked Matej's fenders. A good how to/better instructions would be kickass.

Good god! "It looks ugly on my 240 that I beat the shit out of religiously". Jesus you guys need some midol or some shit! Running it along the bottom of the frame rail is a good idea. I would have done that if I had thought of it, but I didn't so it is over the strut tower. Are we building show cars here or something? Who gives a shit if you can see friggin wiring in the engine bay? There is SUPPOSED to be wiring in there! I'm sorry I just don't give a shit if I can see wiring in the engine bay or interior, shit doesn't matter unless you think your car is some kind of show car. Show cars are gheyer than big gay Al.

joefresh
11-13-2008, 03:22 PM
I fail to see why

if you attach it to the frame above the lip you're fine


its fine to relocate like yours if you dont ever plan to lower your car much more than it is.
My car rubbed harness really bad with 17x9.5 -3 235/40 tucking half tire even with 8* caster.
i relocated my harness above the shock tower it will never ever rub. and go lower!

racepar1
11-13-2008, 03:27 PM
I fail to see why

if you attach it to the frame above the lip you're fine

The fenderwells are the stupidest possible place to run wiring through, other than maybe trying to actually run the wiring through the exhaust. The harness will fall down eventually because all zip ties break. You probably won't notice it untill you actually drive it and it'll take a minute or two for you to figure out what that rubbing noise is. By that time the harness is slightly damaged and you need to do some minor repair. And it'll probably happen again.

CrimsonRockett
11-13-2008, 03:35 PM
I fail to see your point in that.

I've ran mine up there for more than a year now, original crappy zipties and all.

No broken zipties.

No chewed up harness.

aznpoopy
11-13-2008, 03:49 PM
it depends. worked well for me for a while. one day i got new parts, new coilovers, new height, different alignment etc. suddenly the part by the driver side door is rubbing like all hell. i made a little metal bracket to push it back more but the harness now has alot of tension on it. i'm going to move it into the engine bay.

Devens240
11-13-2008, 07:07 PM
back on topic please. pics/tips on pulling front fenders?

airhead
11-13-2008, 07:42 PM
I fail to see why

if you attach it to the frame above the lip you're fine
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/2766/wireharness004lq9.jpg

exactly wat i did to mines

ayuaddict
11-13-2008, 08:10 PM
yea when running harness above wheel well stock fenders fit like shit.

so no bueno for running harness above wheel well unless you have wide fenders.

upSLIDEdown
11-14-2008, 11:51 AM
blahblahblahigetbutthurtanytimesomeonementionsanyt hingthathappenstodifferfrommyownviews

God forbid somebody actually wants their engine bay to look halfway clean. Your comments like this are really starting to get annoying. You think you're God's gift to the s-chassis and you're the end-all-be-all of 240 owners. Not everyone builds their 240 to be a track car. Not everyone thinks function > form 1000000% of the time. I drive my car hard, and have for the past 8 years. That won't change. Just because I drive it the way it should be driven doesn't mean I don't want things to look better than half-assed. Show car? Hell no. Fun daily driver/weekend warrior that will serve some track duty when I have the funds for a track day, most definitely. Now please, that your "mightier-than-thou" attitude somewhere else. Not everyone agrees with your POV. That's what makes the world go 'round. That doesn't mean you're right, and everyone else is wrong, or the other way around.

A Spec Products
11-14-2008, 12:34 PM
I sorta skimmed so someone might have said this already

But I take a palm sized wood block, wrap it in a towel or cloth, then take a heavy hammer/mallet (non rubber) and hammer from the inside of the fender while putting tension with your left hand with the wood block

This way you don't need to remove your fenders, or warp the front fender

You can't really "roll" your front fenders, since it will just bow outward and warp if you put rolling tension on it

Hammering is more precise to me

The rears you can roll, but even for the rears, same technique also can work when you fine tune or start the bend before using the roller

bejota180sx
11-14-2008, 12:46 PM
thanks logan!

could everyone get back on topic and give help on pulling front fenders or showing ideas and stuff for the OP... stop nagging about harnesses and whatever its not the point of the thread!

holaback
11-14-2008, 12:46 PM
[QUOTE=Matej;2445626] it's easy to make them wider than any aftermarket fender.
QUOTE]

Being u are from kc you prob have not seen very many after market fenders......

dori_sil8t
11-14-2008, 01:28 PM
Another method that I haven't tried yet, but others have with great success, is to take off the fender, and lay in on a soft suface like grass or a bed, or whaterver, and hit the lip with a rubber mallet. Hope that helped.

i have tried this...pros the finishd product looks good
cons. the fender wants to bend in like a horse shoes

Matej
11-14-2008, 01:45 PM
Being u are from kc you prob have not seen very many after market fenders......
Wow bro, harsh.

racepar1
11-14-2008, 03:07 PM
God forbid somebody actually wants their engine bay to look halfway clean. Your comments like this are really starting to get annoying. You think you're God's gift to the s-chassis and you're the end-all-be-all of 240 owners. Not everyone builds their 240 to be a track car. Not everyone thinks function > form 1000000% of the time. I drive my car hard, and have for the past 8 years. That won't change. Just because I drive it the way it should be driven doesn't mean I don't want things to look better than half-assed. Show car? Hell no. Fun daily driver/weekend warrior that will serve some track duty when I have the funds for a track day, most definitely. Now please, that your "mightier-than-thou" attitude somewhere else. Not everyone agrees with your POV. That's what makes the world go 'round. That doesn't mean you're right, and everyone else is wrong, or the other way around.

Aww am I annoying you? GOOD! Go build your dope looking engine bay. When I pass you at the track you can tell everyone how much cooler your engine bay looks than mine. :mephfawk: LOL!

Leetheslacker
11-14-2008, 05:16 PM
Take them off, set them on the ground, preferably on a surface that won't scratch them, heat them up with a heat gun or at least a blow dryer, and then just hammer the lip from the inside, until you're satisfied.
Doing this doesn't give you the pulled lip look, but it makes them wider, it's easy to make them wider than any aftermarket fender.


My method makes them bulge out like this (not finished in the pic, but you get the idea).
http://www.matejblahut.com/personal/images/fender_02.jpg

Do you mean lay the fenders down with the outside of the fender on the ground?
That's how i rolled my fenders.
I'm having trouble understanding exactly how hammering like that make them wider or bulges them but maybe I'm missing something?

Matej
11-14-2008, 05:25 PM
Do you mean lay the fenders down with the outside of the fender on the ground?
That's how i rolled my fenders.
I'm having trouble understanding exactly how hammering like that make them wider or bulges them but maybe I'm missing something?
Yes.
Since the outside is round, the lip is actually above ground when you lay them down. I just set them on a blanket on the garage floor, and held them down with my knees while hammering the lip.

bejota180sx
11-14-2008, 06:14 PM
so hammering bulges them out? cause i was gonna hammer the lip with a block like logan said... but i have them removed so i might just do it this way...

karl wasabi
11-14-2008, 06:51 PM
God forbid somebody actually wants their engine bay to look halfway clean. Your comments like this are really starting to get annoying. You think you're God's gift to the s-chassis and you're the end-all-be-all of 240 owners. Not everyone builds their 240 to be a track car. Not everyone thinks function > form 1000000% of the time. I drive my car hard, and have for the past 8 years. That won't change. Just because I drive it the way it should be driven doesn't mean I don't want things to look better than half-assed. Show car? Hell no. Fun daily driver/weekend warrior that will serve some track duty when I have the funds for a track day, most definitely. Now please, that your "mightier-than-thou" attitude somewhere else. Not everyone agrees with your POV. That's what makes the world go 'round. That doesn't mean you're right, and everyone else is wrong, or the other way around.

Thank you very much!!

Aww am I annoying you? GOOD! Go build your dope looking engine bay. When I pass you at the track you can tell everyone how much cooler your engine bay looks than mine. :mephfawk: LOL!

Hey. You should stop getting off topic of the thread. I think everyone is sick of your know-it-all-attitude.

Cliffnotes: Your engine bay looks like trash, but you can "pass us all at the track" Good for you. Have a cookie...take the whole jar.

Back on topic: I'll try to post some pics soon of my rubber mallet job. Razor sharp roll. =)

soreballz
11-14-2008, 06:59 PM
Being u are from kc you prob have not seen very many after market fenders......
lol, what a cunt.

articdragon192
11-14-2008, 07:06 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ArticDragon192/My%20Fairlady/P1000572.jpg

This is what it looks like when you pull fenders while on the car. IMO, I don't mind the vented look, lol.

xdumbxguyx
11-14-2008, 07:14 PM
not a very good idea to take off ur fender and hit it on the grass it will change the shape of ur fender and will mount all retarded.

racepar1
11-14-2008, 07:54 PM
Hey. You should stop getting off topic of the thread. I think everyone is sick of your know-it-all-attitude.

Cliffnotes: Your engine bay looks like trash, but you can "pass us all at the track" Good for you. Have a cookie...take the whole jar.

I am almighty!!!! ARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!! LOL! You apparently missed the sarcasm in my posts. Anyways the OP's question has been answered. I really don't give a fuck who is sick of me, SORRY. People who actually know me know what's up. I like to play around and act like an asshole on the intraweb, but I also contribute a LOT of information and advice to those who are willing to listen and do my best to help people out with their cars. Believe it or not I actually DO know a LOT about what I speak of. My car looks like trash, but it certainly isn't. All I care about, or ever REALLY will care about, is going faster. Looks are just a bonus.

upSLIDEdown
11-15-2008, 08:29 AM
I am almighty!!!! ARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!! LOL! You apparently missed the sarcasm in my posts. Anyways the OP's question has been answered. I really don't give a fuck who is sick of me, SORRY. People who actually know me know what's up. I like to play around and act like an asshole on the intraweb, but I also contribute a LOT of information and advice to those who are willing to listen and do my best to help people out with their cars. Believe it or not I actually DO know a LOT about what I speak of. My car looks like trash, but it certainly isn't. All I care about, or ever REALLY will care about, is going faster. Looks are just a bonus.

That's all fine and dandy, but again, not everyone is going to agree with your "I look like shit, but I go fast" mentality. I like going fast just as much as the next guy, and my car probably has just as much suspension shit done to it as yours, if not more. Whoopdeedoo. I still like things to look good, because it's not a TRACK CAR. It's a street car. If I built a track car, then maybe I wouldn't give a fuck what it looks like, or whether the engine bay was clean. I didn't. And probably 90+% of the people on Zilvia didn't either. I respect your views on your car, and your function>form attitude, but stop trying to force those views/opinions onto everyone on Zilvia. Just because someone doesn't want their shit to look halfassed doesn't mean they're wrong for that, so stop trying to make it out that way.

Fuck.


Like Logan said, heat, hammer, and some force on the outside of the fender while you're doing it. I didn't use a wood block, I just pressed on it with my hand and a rag (obviously it's hot after heating with a torch,lol).

I really want to try Matej's way though. So you put you knees in the middle of the fender basically, facing the "bottom edge" of the fender, and hammered away?

D.Bo
11-15-2008, 08:45 AM
dunnno if someone said this already but when i did mine i heated it up the flattened the inside fender. then i re heated it and rolled it with a bat the pull it out some while keepin heat on it

racepar1
11-15-2008, 12:30 PM
That's all fine and dandy, but again, not everyone is going to agree with your "I look like shit, but I go fast" mentality. I like going fast just as much as the next guy, and my car probably has just as much suspension shit done to it as yours, if not more. Whoopdeedoo. I still like things to look good, because it's not a TRACK CAR. It's a street car. If I built a track car, then maybe I wouldn't give a fuck what it looks like, or whether the engine bay was clean. I didn't. And probably 90+% of the people on Zilvia didn't either. I respect your views on your car, and your function>form attitude, but stop trying to force those views/opinions onto everyone on Zilvia. Just because someone doesn't want their shit to look halfassed doesn't mean they're wrong for that, so stop trying to make it out that way.

Fuck.


Like Logan said, heat, hammer, and some force on the outside of the fender while you're doing it. I didn't use a wood block, I just pressed on it with my hand and a rag (obviously it's hot after heating with a torch,lol).

I really want to try Matej's way though. So you put you knees in the middle of the fender basically, facing the "bottom edge" of the fender, and hammered away?



You're all wrong!!!!! :2f2f: :snoop: LOL! Seriously stop getting butthurt people! I am being vastly sarcastic!

bejota180sx
11-15-2008, 12:40 PM
would everyone shut the hell up about harness and fights WHO CARES!!!
were talking about pulling front fenders stop getting off topic!

besides matej anybody got more pics?

racepar1
11-15-2008, 12:53 PM
Jesus, how friggin hard is it to pull front fenders??? Does this topic, which has been covered a MILLION times already, really deserve ANOTHER thread? Fuck there is a whole page of suggestions on how to do it in this thread already. You can use a roller, a baseball bat, newspaper pull, hammer and a block of wood, take the fenders off and hammer the lips, or any combination of the above. NOT hard!!!!!!!!!!! :smash:

ayuaddict
11-15-2008, 01:07 PM
Jesus, how friggin hard is it to pull front fenders??? Does this topic, which has been covered a MILLION times already, really deserve ANOTHER thread? Fuck there is a whole page of suggestions on how to do it in this thread already. You can use a roller, a baseball bat, newspaper pull, hammer and a block of wood, take the fenders off and hammer the lips, or any combination of the above. NOT hard!!!!!!!!!!! :smash:

dude, you're not really contributing.

let the thread take its course, people will post with useful info, people will post questions in need of useful info. Bumping it with your unnecessary remarks every five minutes is just encouragement for other unnecessary remarks.

Oh and by the way, Matej's work is law, especially when it comes to big wheels, small tires and stock fenders, just do what he says and your car may just look as dope as his someday.

JVD
11-15-2008, 01:41 PM
I am almighty!!!! ARRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!! LOL! You apparently missed the sarcasm in my posts. Anyways the OP's question has been answered. I really don't give a fuck who is sick of me, SORRY. People who actually know me know what's up. I like to play around and act like an asshole on the intraweb, but I also contribute a LOT of information and advice to those who are willing to listen and do my best to help people out with their cars. Believe it or not I actually DO know a LOT about what I speak of. My car looks like trash, but it certainly isn't. All I care about, or ever REALLY will care about, is going faster. Looks are just a bonus.
I rarely see you contribute a whole lot... I do, however, notice a lot of fights start over you talking about your race car stock 240sx.

Silvia front on a fastback because of "weight savings". ROFL.

Addicted2Kouki
11-15-2008, 01:42 PM
I just redid mine last night and did the rears.

I used the wooden end off a squeegee from the gas station because trying to run a baseball bat under my car wouldnt really work.

I only wanted to roll btw.

racepar1
11-15-2008, 02:05 PM
I rarely see you contribute a whole lot... I do, however, notice a lot of fights start over you talking about your race car stock 240sx.

Silvia front on a fastback because of "weight savings". ROFL.

Ya my "stock" 240sx that keeps up with spec miatas, which have r-compounds, while my car still has azenis. That sounds REAL stock to me! :bigok: I'm sorry that I am not a cool drifter dude. And if you wanna see contributions refer to my first post in this thread. Have a nice day!

racepar1
11-15-2008, 02:06 PM
I just redid mine last night and did the rears.

I used the wooden end off a squeegee from the gas station because trying to run a baseball bat under my car wouldnt really work.

I only wanted to roll btw.

ROFL! Gas station squeegee handle roll! That is friggin EPIC! You're my hero! LOL!

Dousan_PG
11-15-2008, 02:17 PM
racepar
your one of those guys who go to the track and just brag about it on here to see more superior. i mean seriously, read your posts.

no one really cares

let them talk about fender rolling yeah its been covered a mlllion times. it annoys me, but i just close my browser and move on.
let it go.

bejota180sx
11-15-2008, 02:35 PM
if he rants again just ignore him...

any more pics of FRONT, rears have been covered millions of times... lets make this thread about fronts only so when people search this thread will be the first to help them out...

soreballz
11-15-2008, 02:55 PM
Lets make this thread about fronts only so when people search this thread will be the first to help them out...
This thread is about pulling/rolling the fronts... It says so in the title. LOL

I agree though... PROPER pulling of the front fenders hasn't been covered enough.

bejota180sx
11-15-2008, 03:00 PM
This thread is about pulling/rolling the fronts... It says so in the title. LOL

I agree though... PROPER pulling of the front fenders hasn't been covered enough.


i know, what i meant to say is... lets keep this about front fenders and not start getting off-topic... about rear pulls and harnesses and whatever everyone is fighting about!

racepar1
11-15-2008, 03:24 PM
This thread is about pulling/rolling the fronts... It says so in the title. LOL

I agree though... PROPER pulling of the front fenders hasn't been covered enough.

The best on-car way that I have found is the baseball bat pull that I said in my first post. The bitch is that no matter how you pull the fenders on the car you end up with the "vented look" that is shown in arcticdragon's pic above. Really there is no 100% correct way to do it, you have to mix and match to get it right. and when you are done you have to work the fenders some more to get rid of the gap. The fronts are a bitch to get to look right. There is no miracle solution, sorry guys. It takes experience to really get it right. The nice thing is that it is, after all, just metal and you can fix whatever you screw up if you know how to work with it. Metalworking is an art and pulling fenders is metalworking. The average DIYer will almost certainly screw up, to some extent, on the first shot. I did, but I learned how to fix it with some guidance from some body guys and fabricators that I know. Well "fix" is really a relative term as my fenders should really be replaced with another set and re-done using what I now know, but with a little bondo and some more patient light metal working they are saveable.

bejota180sx
11-15-2008, 03:58 PM
so heat up and baseball bat right? how much should we heat it up, i read some people use a damm hair blower instead of heat gun! that would create much heat or would it? im guessing lower the car completely and stick the bat or little by little and roll each time you lower it more?

racepar1
11-15-2008, 04:11 PM
so heat up and baseball bat right? how much should we heat it up, i read some people use a damm hair blower instead of heat gun! that would create much heat or would it? im guessing lower the car completely and stick the bat or little by little and roll each time you lower it more?

The heat gun (or hairdryer) is to heat the paint so that it is flexible and doesn't crack. If you heat the fender up to the point where the metal itself becomes more easily workable it will almost certainly ruin the paint. I like the baseball bat because you can adjust the pressure as you go along to wirk the entire fender lip, while a roller only really works about a foot of it. You just have more control with the bat and you can get it pretty evenly pulled if you take your time with it. For the rears you really need more pressure than is realistically possible with the bat because they are MUCH stronger. That is why I use the roller for the rears. I'll post pics of my fronts tomorrow. The entire fender is pulled out where as with a roller it just flares it at the top.

racepar1
11-16-2008, 01:05 PM
My set-up.
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj283/racepar1/blowoutsale013.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj283/racepar1/blowoutsale014.jpg

http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj283/racepar1/blowoutsale015.jpg

Zilvia4eva
11-16-2008, 05:45 PM
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/s14eva1/198656480261_0_0.jpg
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s292/s14eva1/193585663109_0_0.jpg


I used a 2 1/4 inch pipe....stuck it between tire -n- fender,had my buddy drive slowly back -n- fourth....as I managed the pipe carefully to get a good arch....sent the car to the body shop and had them put epoxy filler to smooth out the fender,then respray.

note:My wheels were 18x9.5 +1(after 15mm spacer) 245/40/18 tires at front...if you use this method,it will vary depending on how low your car is,wheel size,and tire side wall...be patient

greddyguy
11-16-2008, 05:52 PM
exactly wat i did to mines



for sure...

i just unbolted the fender, shoved the harness up inside the fender, then wrestled the fender back on. its hard to get it to look normal, but its no impossible. i did it just fine

racepar1
11-16-2008, 05:56 PM
for sure...

i just unbolted the fender, shoved the harness up inside the fender, then wrestled the fender back on. its hard to get it to look normal, but its no impossible. i did it just fine

When you re-route the harness like that you are supposed to remove all the insulation from the harness and re-tape it with no insulation. If you do that it fits between the fender and apron just fine.

JRas
11-16-2008, 07:38 PM
http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj283/racepar1/blowoutsale015.jpg

nice, I may have to mess with mine more, I really didn't think it could be flared out like that.

racepar1
11-16-2008, 07:58 PM
nice, I may have to mess with mine more, I really didn't think it could be flared out like that.

It isn't easy and it is a LOT rougher in person than you can see in the pic. I basically screwed up when I tried to touch it up with a roller and flattened it back out with a rubber hammer and a block of wood. Then I went at it again with a bat when I got my current wheels.