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s13dan
11-08-2008, 02:10 PM
I love sport compact car, as far as magizines go it one of the best. I really like the ultimate street car challenge but i think there has only been one S chassis, and if i remeber correctly it sucked.. Most of the winning cars pull about 1G on the skid pad and can break 11's... I'v seen plenty of 240's that can do that. With a low new car price tag and a well tuned SR or KA could make 400hp or more and get OK good gas milage. I think a 240 could win. The drivabilty test and girlfreind test might not go so well but it would be easy to make up pionts with the gross display of HP... Any input? or anyone whos got a car that can do it.

Nikeboy355
11-08-2008, 02:25 PM
Yes the S-chassis can do it... And there are a handful of us who are working on it...

I'm prepping my newest S13 to take over the Limited/Modified RWD Time Attack class with everything from chassis work to aero to gearing... It's just a lot of work when comparing it to newer cars that start from a much better place... They have more power with better powerbands and they have at least 10 more years worth of R&D on their suspensions...

I also have a friend with an S14 who is going for the Unlimited RWD Time Attack class record with an HKS stroked motor, sequential transmission, and the best in suspension... There is even a cooler for the diff...

There are a handful of us who are trying to perfect the S-chassis but the amount of time and attention to detail is a lot... And then spending the seat time in the car can be expensive...

It's all about finding the right blend of driving and car building... And the time and money...

OptionZero
11-08-2008, 04:46 PM
Kognition could probably win it.

PoorMans180SX
11-08-2008, 06:14 PM
There aren't a whole lot of people that are willing to invest the time/effort/money into building an ultimate street S-chassis.

I am one of them.

However, I am a student, and I have no money.

So maybe in a few years when I have a sick job. By then the cars will be ridiclulous and I'll have to build the car to crazy standards. But I want to do it. Hopefully I will get my chance.

I haven't seen many s-chassis that don't make lots of compromises when it comes to streetability.

Basically the being in the USCC means you have the best of everything. Suspension, chassis work, engine development/building, interior, and exterior. That's a lot of money.

turtl631
11-08-2008, 09:45 PM
Suspension options for these cars have mostly sucked up until now, and everyone was focused on building drift cars so there aren't too many of them built to really perform. That's changing though, so who knows? With a 90mm Mazworx SR and a 30R you have the power and powerband to do well, and now that you can get Koni 8611s and Motons, suspension can be much better than standard stuff. It'd be interesting to see more aero development on 240s. DSG is pretty much the only one really working on it, but that's not a street car by any means. I guess I'm sort of building my car in this direction, but without the funds to be ultimate by any means. Maybe that's the true problem- poor people buy 240s :)

RanciD
11-08-2008, 10:13 PM
Suspension options for these cars have mostly sucked up until now, and everyone was focused on building drift cars so there aren't too many of them built to really perform. That's changing though, so who knows? With a 90mm Mazworx SR and a 30R you have the power and powerband to do well, and now that you can get Koni 8611s and Motons, suspension can be much better than standard stuff. It'd be interesting to see more aero development on 240s. DSG is pretty much the only one really working on it, but that's not a street car by any means. I guess I'm sort of building my car in this direction, but without the funds to be ultimate by any means. Maybe that's the true problem- poor people buy 240s :)

There have always been good options available, they've just never been popular among the demographic of people who buy 240s. Plenty of autocrossers and club racers have been running Konis and the like for years and years now but they typically don't post on forums like this one, nor would 95% of the people here appreciate the work they have done to their cars because they don't have any jdm stickers or flashy paint. And I don't mean that negatively because stickers and paint are a part of drifting and this forum is almost exclusively about drifting as far as motorsports go. I love to see cars like DSG's, not just because it's a truly awesome car, but because it's bringing a lot of attention to other motorsports as well.

GSXRJJordan
11-08-2008, 10:18 PM
When I started building my S14 (which was literally stripped to the chassis and rebuilt) I had this type of competition in mind, but on a lower overall dollar level. Now that it's mechanically/cosmetically built (engine/drivetrain/aero, just needs the interior), I see that it would cost a LOT of money to get an S-chassis to compete with a Z06 vette, for instance.

In the $10k-$20k budget, it's my belief that S-chassis can not be beat. The only thing that I think comes close is a fox-body Mustang, and I think they're severly lacking in the pimp/new factor.

In the $20k + range, I've concluded that S-chassis' lose their edge, and must give way to the C5 corvette - running, LS1-powered cars can be had for <$15k, with suspension, brakes, and power that rival most "modded" S-chassis cars - and the aftermarket for Vette's is large and competitive, so budget options for power, braking, and cornering can be had as well.

My next project will most likely be a 'Vette with a $20k budget, including the car. Normally aspirated, at least to start, and a much more capable sports car in every sense than my S14.

gripster
11-09-2008, 02:38 AM
I'm a grip driver and I've always dreamed of a budget build to compete in the USCC. The great thing about this competition is that it is a streetable car.

on a side note:
I know of the owner of the blue 350z from another forum 8 years ago.