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silvia_twins
11-07-2008, 08:47 AM
Well this is my story of our transaction

on June 16 2008 I sent him a PM about his set of two 255/35/18's he had posted in the tires for sale ad. He was selling the 2 for about 160.00. Well after a few PMs he told me that he could do 200.00 shipped for the tires. At this time I am in Afghanistan and was going on leave and would have these mounted on my car when I returned for the 15 days. Well I went home on leave and my tires were there and I rushed off to the tire store to get them mounted and what do you know... they both had bubbles in the sidewall.

I sent him a message letting him know this and he said he would refund me my money but he needed some time cause he was a college student and did not have a lot of money. I even told him that I could send him pics of me putting holes in the tires so that he knows I am not lying to him about it. I told him that it was fine and that I would give him a month cause I was in no rush cause I still had another few months in Afghanistan and I understood where he was coming from. Well time went by and he began to extend the date more and more. Here are some of his PMs

07-06-2008
Me:Hey bro this is roger and we have an issue. I hope you didnt know that the tires both have bubbles on them but when I took them to get installed on the car they were no good. I hope we can come to a resolution for these tires. I am not lying about this and I can send you pics of me drilling holes in the tires so you know I am not using these and claiming they are no good. Let me know

Roger
Hustlervibes:I had no clue the tires had bubbles in them what so ever. They were perfectly fine when I sent them out. I guess they were damaged durring shipping? I'm really sorry about the situation, what would you like to do? And could I see pics of the bubbles?
Me:(Im not sure where this post went but I let him know that I did not have a camera when they were mounted and I had to put on my old tires to drive back home with and I was not going to pay to get them remounted to have to take them right back off)
Hustlervibes:I will refund you $160 (cost of tires excluding shipping), but the thing is I'm a broke college student so you will have to give me a few weeks to gather the money. I already spent the money you sent me on a track event. I'm sorry that the tires were bad and didn't know otherwise I would not of sold them.
Me: Cool not a problem at all. I will tell you what, how does a month sound? Do you need more time then that? I understand about the money flow for a student and all so it sounds all good. I go back to afghanistan for another 4 months on the 14th so there is no huge rush I just don't wanna let this be forgotten. Alright bro just let me know ok. Later man

Glad we can solve this problem

Roger

08-01-2008
Me: hey bro this is roger and I was wondering if you were going to have the money (160.00) by the 6th for the tires? I sent you a PM about a month ago saying that I would give it a month. Just let me know bro

Thanks
Roger
08-07-2008
Me: its been a month bro did you want to handle the refund of the ties now? You said you would refund 160.00

Thanks Bro
Roger

[email protected]
08-08-2008
Me: so are you going to refund my money or not?
Hustlervibes: Yes, I'm waiting on a return from super autobacs so I can refund your money. I'll send it within 1-2 weeks at the latest. Sorry about the lack of communication.

08-19-2008
Me: Just checking up bro. Did you get your refund yet?
Hustlervibes: Yeah I'm going to autobacs on Thursday. Then once I see the refund on the account I'll paypal you the money. I'm sorry about the tires, it must've happened when they were shipping it.

08-26-2008
Me: Ok now I can see you are on but trying to be invisible Alright dude now I know how we are going to handle this
Hustlervibes: I will refund you the money, I don't mean to ignore you and I've been in "invisible mode" for the longest time now if you haven't noticed? I really am stuggling on the money situation right now so I'll ask my mom this coming weekend to help me out. I wasn't expecting there to be a problem and I'm living off of nothing right now so it's extremely hard for me to pay you back. I feel like a shit head doing this to you, but all I can ask for is for you to please understand. All I can say to you is I WILL get that money back to you. And if anything my b-day is 9-11 so FOR SURE by then I will have money to pay you back.

Sorry Again

09-12-2008
Me: Any updates bro?
Hustlervibes: Yeah, I'm seeing my parents this coming weekend for my birthday dinner and they're gonna give me some money to get back to you. You can expect it next week. Sorry about the long delay.
Me: Cool cool I understand as long as you keep me updated bro

here is my paypal addy

[email protected]

BTW happy belated birthday bro
Hustlervibes: Yeah, thanks man. I'll keep you updated and you actually made it on time, it's still my b-day

09-18-2008
Hustlervibes:Yeah, I talked to my mom about it and said to wait until she gets her next paycheck then I'll be sending the money over. I'll see her on Saturday then I'll send the money over. Sorry for the late response I haven't been online lately.

10-22-2008
Me: You are such a coward and liar. Ripping off someone who fights for assholes like you. You will get what's coming to you. Trust me
Hustlervibes: Sorry for the super late reply, but I haven't been online or near my laptop because it chrashed and been low on funds to do anything.

I know I seem like a liar, but I really don't have money and have been making empty promises. I'm honestly sorry, and just got $200 from my dad. I'll paypal that to you tomorrow evening after I deposit it at the bank.


Well since them I have left him some messages on his main page and sent him other PMs that he has not responded to. This guy should not be allowed anywhere near the for sale section with the way he conducts business and just ignores people after telling them forever that he is going to pay them. Its not that I am mad about the money cause I am not hurting for cash. Its the fact that this guy had the nerve to sell trashed tires and try to blame it on the shipping and never had any intentions of making his deal right with a dissatisfied buyer. Hustlervibes I hope your life is full of unfortunate events cause what goes around ALWAYS comes back around. I would love to hear your reasons on here or someone please block this guy from trying to buy or sell stuff on here.

Roger

I10cruiser
11-07-2008, 01:36 PM
good luck bro. . i hate hen people do this kind of stuff. . these are the kind of people who shouldnt be allowed to buy sell stuff . .make sure you contact a mod too. . its been way too long

silvia_twins
11-07-2008, 07:32 PM
Mods have been contacted already and they sent him a PM. We will see what happens

lunatyk
11-07-2008, 07:49 PM
I THINK I met this guy once at DTC before, is his name...Mark? If it is and I see him I'll see wassup with this dude and try get you your money. Scammers/frauds that can't make their own money is just pathetic.

zilvia_brothers
11-07-2008, 10:15 PM
i know him..i'll let him know wuts up...he's not the type that would scam someone

silvia_twins
11-07-2008, 10:36 PM
you know I dont think he is that type either but when you keep giving false dates for months and then totally ignore someone after that then your opinion changes. Thanks for looking out and I hope I can get this issue resolved

GabeS14
11-08-2008, 01:58 AM
if you are not directly involved with this transaction or have not done business with Mark to contribute to this thread. Stay out of it!

Nismoknightska-t
11-08-2008, 02:51 AM
Hustlervibes is a pretty cool dude.. i met him before.. he doesnt seem like a dude that would do this.. but now a days... everyone is shady as fuck.. good luck...

silvia_twins
11-09-2008, 08:30 AM
Well, if anyone knows him and sees him let can you have him respond please? He has already been pmd by a mod and knows of this thread so........

J-Team
11-09-2008, 04:37 PM
Ive met him before at a meet. Nerdy white guys dont really seem like the type to scam people over tires?

DreamN
11-09-2008, 04:46 PM
^ he's not white. doubt you've met him.

I've bought wheels and tires from Mark before and have even become friends with him. He's a good guy. He's been hard up on money recently and his computer did crash. Hell, we even wondered why he wasn't posting for awhile until he let us know.

I may be biased in this situation since he is my friend, but is there any proof of the tires actually having bubbles?

J-Team
11-09-2008, 06:12 PM
white kouki cf hood right???? if so then yea he looks pretty white

DreamN
11-09-2008, 06:23 PM
You got the car right, but he's not white. Filipino actually. Skin tone is light though. Either way that's not really important.

J-Team
11-09-2008, 06:25 PM
well to stay on topic, he seemed legit when I was going to sell him some parts. Didnt look like the type to steal stuff.

silvia_twins
11-09-2008, 06:34 PM
^ he's not white. doubt you've met him.

I've bought wheels and tires from Mark before and have even become friends with him. He's a good guy. He's been hard up on money recently and his computer did crash. Hell, we even wondered why he wasn't posting for awhile until he let us know.

I may be biased in this situation since he is my friend, but is there any proof of the tires actually having bubbles?

Nope, when I took them to get mounted I did not have a camera so they took them off and put on my old ones. I have no reason to lie. I already let him know this too. If he wanted more proof he could have sent me more money to get them remounted and take pics. I understand if the guy is a broke college student, thats not a problem because I have been super patient, I just think when someone keeps keeps telling you dates and does not follow through, then it becomes a big deal.

DreamN
11-09-2008, 06:43 PM
You would expect a college kid with little to no money to send you more money? That's asking to much for sure.

Definitely agree with you about the feeling of getting the run around. Hopefully this will be resolved.

ryster
11-09-2008, 07:42 PM
Talked to him last week... Before this thread was posted.

I was asking him to do something for me using his computer. I found out that his computer crashed, he got it fixed and then crashed again because liquid accidentally spilled on it.

I am pretty sure that he is not the type of person to scam anyone. He is a good person, but I think he is in some financial bind. Give him time, hopefully it gets resolved soon.

s13 @ fullboost
11-09-2008, 07:53 PM
every time I have ever talked to him he has been really Nice I will talk to him about it at the meet on wednesday night

1five10
11-09-2008, 07:59 PM
For the people who know him, you guys should step up and let him know about this thread then. Even if his computer did crash, I'm sure he has many friends who own computers.

It's been 5 months since he initially said he would refund the money. That's a long time don't you guys think?

Hope this issue gets resolved. Maybe he can go on a payment plan...

Phlip
11-10-2008, 07:48 AM
He is aware of this thread, as he has read the PM I sent him, and since he saw fit to not respond to me or the person he owes money to, he will be banned from the marketplace now.

silvia_twins
11-10-2008, 08:38 AM
works for me.. Thanks PHILIP

silvia_twins
11-20-2008, 11:02 AM
A few people said they were going to talk to him when they ran across him. Has anyone cross paths with this guy?

racer98
11-22-2008, 09:45 PM
I had the same mother *ing thing happen by another user here. Picked the tires in person and mounted them and boom side wall bubbles.


God that pisses me off.


Say, didnt that guy just pick up an E46 M3 ?

silvia_twins
11-23-2008, 08:49 AM
Did he?? Everytime I talked to him he did not have any money and I am guessing with a new car now he has no use for a nissan forum. I guess I am SOL

HWYKING
11-23-2008, 10:31 AM
I had the same mother *ing thing happen by another user here. Picked the tires in person and mounted them and boom side wall bubbles.


God that pisses me off.


Say, didnt that guy just pick up an E46 M3 ?

no, you have him mixed up with someone else g. hes just got his s14 guys.

racer98
11-23-2008, 11:24 AM
no, you have him mixed up with someone else g. hes just got his s14 guys.

hey, how much did he pay for it. How do you know who were talking about ? :blah:


tell him to take the seats or parts off his car sell it and pay this guy back.

DreamN
11-23-2008, 11:29 AM
A few people said they were going to talk to him when they ran across him. Has anyone cross paths with this guy?

We have talked to him, but the situation for him just isn't adequate. No computer, so communication online is cut down greatly. He's a student so the majority of his time is taken by his studies. Plus, any cash he does come across goes directly to gas and other necessities.

I understand that Mark made the choice to say he would refund you the money, which I think was a bad decision by him especially with no proof of anything, but what's done is done. He should stand by his word and pay you. Fortunately he has been able to land a part time job so hopefully things turn for the best.

Seriously, he's far from the type that would scam anyone or even think about it. He's a good kid who's just hard up on money.

DreamN
11-23-2008, 11:30 AM
hey, how much did he pay for it. How do you know who were talking about ? :blah:


tell him to take the seats or parts off his car sell it and pay this guy back.

Dude, he's had his s14 for years now. I believe it was a gift from his parents. Parting his only car out wouldn't be the wisest thing for him.

racer98
11-23-2008, 11:34 AM
We have talked to him, but the situation for him just isn't adequate. No computer, so communication online is cut down greatly. He's a student so the majority of his time is taken by his studies. Plus, any cash he does come across goes directly to gas and other necessities.

I understand that Mark made the choice to say he would refund you the money, which I think was a bad decision by him especially with no proof of anything, but what's done is done. He should stand by his word and pay you. Fortunately has been able to land a part time job so hopefully things turn for the best.

Seriously, he's far from the type that would scam anyone or even think about it. He's a good kid who's a bit on hard up on money.

Dude, he's had his s14 for years now. I believe it was a gift from his parents. Parting his only car out wouldn't be the wisest thing for him.

If you are truly his friend why not refund the money for him and have your friend pay you back when he sees fit ?

DreamN
11-23-2008, 11:39 AM
If I had the money I would. Hell, it's not easy making money these days. No one buys parts and school takes up the majority of my time as well so shipping some items is out of the question.

Plus I have my bills and debts to pay off as well. I could only imagine the bigger strain it would put on me if I did in my current situation.

racer98
11-23-2008, 11:57 AM
If I had the money I would. Hell, it's not easy making money these days. No one buys parts and school takes up the majority of my time as well so shipping some items is out of the question.

Plus I have my bills and debts to pay off as well. I could only imagine the bigger strain it would put on me if I did in my current situation.


all you need now is some yahoo going out of his way to derail what sparse sales you do have coming up......know what I mean?

fliprayzin240sx
11-23-2008, 12:14 PM
We have talked to him, but the situation for him just isn't adequate. No computer, so communication online is cut down greatly. He's a student so the majority of his time is taken by his studies. Plus, any cash he does come across goes directly to gas and other necessities.

I understand that Mark made the choice to say he would refund you the money, which I think was a bad decision by him especially with no proof of anything, but what's done is done. He should stand by his word and pay you. Fortunately he has been able to land a part time job so hopefully things turn for the best.

Seriously, he's far from the type that would scam anyone or even think about it. He's a good kid who's just hard up on money.

Seriously, proof or no proof, why would somebody return perfectly good tires when they need it??? Maybe you should tell your friend to stop selling bunk shit and then giving people the run around. Seriously, Roger told him wassup in June and your telling me that over 6 months later, he cant come up with the money?!?! If he's so fucking broke, maybe its time to sell his car and get something cheaper to maintain and shit...hell, better yet, he got some car parts he can sell to get money out of to pay for his obligation. :nono:

DreamN
11-23-2008, 01:32 PM
To his knowledge they weren't ruined tires. He merely upgraded to a wider set of tires because of a good deal he got. I really don't know the specifics of how bubbles form in the sidewalls so I won't comment how that could have happened.

He loves his car, he wouldn't sell it. Obviously you didn't read the portion of him finally being to get a job. The issue was he didn't have funds before, hopefully now he will. Mark isn't hiding from this. He simply can't get online and has other things to handle as well.

I've already agreed about the run around issue and I'm siding with Roger (OP's name?) on that. You're seriously beating a dead horse. Soon as he comes up with the cash he'll pay.

Also, have you ever had a transaction with Mark (hustlervibes) that would require you to post in this thread? You're bad mouthing someone who sold used tires with no knowledge that they were damaged (maybe damaged in route) and has meant to resolve the situation, but hasn't been able too.

I sympathize for both parties because it sucks to spend hard-earned money on parts that turned out to be worthless to you and also to be in a situation where you're trying to good by someone, but have no real means to do it by. And putting yourself in a worse sitauation by selling parts off your car that you will eventually have to buy back for probably more money isn't really the best thing to do.

I'll leave this as my last post because I see this thread turning into a shitting match. I'm sure Mark will pay the OP back when the funds are available and only wish that this gets resolved as soon as possible.

racer98
11-23-2008, 04:38 PM
To his knowledge they weren't ruined tires. He merely upgraded to a wider set of tires because of a good deal he got. I really don't know the specifics of how bubbles form in the sidewalls so I won't comment how that could have happened.

He loves his car, he wouldn't sell it. Obviously you didn't read the portion of him finally being to get a job. The issue was he didn't have funds before, hopefully now he will. Mark isn't hiding from this. He simply can't get online and has other things to handle as well.

I've already agreed about the run around issue and I'm siding with Roger (OP's name?) on that. You're seriously beating a dead horse. Soon as he comes up with the cash he'll pay.

Also, have you ever had a transaction with Mark (hustlervibes) that would require you to post in this thread? You're bad mouthing someone who sold used tires with no knowledge that they were damaged (maybe damaged in route) and has meant to resolve the situation, but hasn't been able too.

I sympathize for both parties because it sucks to spend hard-earned money on parts that turned out to be worthless to you and also to be in a situation where you're trying to good by someone, but have no real means to do it by. And putting yourself in a worse sitauation by selling parts off your car that you will eventually have to buy back for probably more money isn't really the best thing to do.

I'll leave this as my last post because I see this thread turning into a shitting match. I'm sure Mark will pay the OP back when the funds are available and only wish that this gets resolved as soon as possible.

What the :rant: is the matter with you?

All this over a refund your bud absolutely owes here?

YOUR bud KNOWINGLY SOLD THE DUDE FAULTY TIRES!!!!!!!

Would you have been happier if the sidewall blew out at the guy flipped the car and killed himself? You'd be happy to live with that on your head for the rest of your life over $160 bucks?

What kind of a human are you? PAY THE DUDE BACK YOU UNSCRUPULOUS :cj:

s13 @ fullboost
11-23-2008, 05:09 PM
Holy shit this has gone way to far I spoke with Mark the other night at the meet and he intends to pay the OP back A.S.A.P. so now only time will tell Also everything that DreamN said I totally agree with

DreEzed
11-23-2008, 11:23 PM
What the :rant: is the matter with you?

All this over a refund your bud absolutely owes here?

YOUR bud KNOWINGLY SOLD THE DUDE FAULTY TIRES!!!!!!!

Would you have been happier if the sidewall blew out at the guy flipped the car and killed himself? You'd be happy to live with that on your head for the rest of your life over $160 bucks?

What kind of a human are you? PAY THE DUDE BACK YOU UNSCRUPULOUS :cj:

Did you do business with the seller NO.... so why are you posting?? This is a Buyer/Seller Review unless you have bought or sold anything to this person don't say anything.

racer98
11-23-2008, 11:37 PM
Did you do business with the seller NO.... so why are you posting?? This is a Buyer/Seller Review unless you have bought or sold anything to this person don't say anything.

Why are you posting as well ? took you guys sometime for a reply ?


Yes, I have.

silvia_twins
11-24-2008, 04:26 AM
Ok heres the thing. "Mark" knew of the thread made after a mod messaged him and did not respond to it. Tires ruined in shipping sounds kinda fishy to me but I said whatever thats fine and he agreed to pay me back minus shipping. Then he said he was getting 200.00 and sending it to me and never did. The guy had been on multiple times before the post was made because I looked up his profile daily to see if he had signed in (and he had but refused to answer my PM's) but as soon as the post went up all of a sudden then he no longer gets on. I have understood about money problems and gave him plenty of time but there is a limit to my graces. I can handle this like an adult but you know what he needs to act the same. I am not that worried cause I know he lives in cali and i will be there in a few months from now on orders so I want to see if he will keep avoiding me then. People tend to change their choices sometimes when they meet others face to face.

1five10
11-24-2008, 07:28 AM
Like I said before, put this guy on a payment plan. Something is better than nothing. All you guys keep making excuses for this guy on why he can't pay. The fact he disappeared made the situation worse don't you think?

What college kid does not have access to a computer? I'm sure the library has a bunch of them. He also has all of you vouching for him, so invite him over and let him use your computer.

Payment plan..Payment plan...That's the most feasible way to resolve this...Work this out guys..

racer98
11-24-2008, 09:14 AM
Ok heres the thing. "Mark" knew of the thread made after a mod messaged him and did not respond to it. Tires ruined in shipping sounds kinda fishy to me but I said whatever thats fine and he agreed to pay me back minus shipping. Then he said he was getting 200.00 and sending it to me and never did. The guy had been on multiple times before the post was made because I looked up his profile daily to see if he had signed in (and he had but refused to answer my PM's) but as soon as the post went up all of a sudden then he no longer gets on. I have understood about money problems and gave him plenty of time but there is a limit to my graces. I can handle this like an adult but you know what he needs to act the same. I am not that worried cause I know he lives in cali and i will be there in a few months from now on orders so I want to see if he will keep avoiding me then. People tend to change their choices sometimes when they meet others face to face.

Id say you have better things to do, what really bothers me is the lack of respect. Not worth your time to get into a skermish over this ammount of money, still though its owed to you and that is final if an ageement was made and you got blow off like this just think if you bought a used motor or expensive part off the guy would be in a worse situation. I really like how one group of people keep replying for him. :mepoke: I do hope it gets resolved in a professional manner.



Like I said before, put this guy on a payment plan. Something is better than nothing. All you guys keep making excuses for this guy on why he can't pay. The fact he disappeared made the situation worse don't you think?
+1

What college kid does not have access to a computer? I'm sure the library has a bunch of them. He also has all of you vouching for him, so invite him over and let him use your computer.
+1

Payment plan..Payment plan...That's the most feasible way to resolve this...Work this out guys..
:mepoke::mepoke::mepoke::spank:

dtc 360RT
11-24-2008, 09:20 AM
just for tire knowledge (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=159)

Kalashnikov
11-24-2008, 04:34 PM
However the strength of the bond can be reduced if 1) any of the components are contaminated during manufacturing (resulting in incomplete bonding), or 2) components are damaged in service due to use while overloaded/underinflated, or by impact with potholes, curbs or other road hazards that pinch the tire between the rim and the road, or simply stretch the rubber beyond the elastic limit of the underlying cords and wires.

Past experience indicates that a sidewall separation/bubble caused by component contamination or incomplete bonding during manufacturing will appear within the first six months of service. Fortunately these separations/bubbles typically appear when they are small in size and before the tire's strength is substantially reduced. However since typical tires roll about 800 times every mile and the air pressure inside the tire is greater than outside, tire separations/bubbles that are unseen or ignored will continue to grow in size, further reduce strength, often generate noise and vibration, and ultimately lead to tire failure as the tire stretches under load (similar to the way that continuously bending a paperclip back and forth will cause it to weaken and break). However there is one last thing to remember; while a separation/bubble early in a tire's life is usually associated with a manufacturing condition, even a single, significant impact with a deep pothole or sharp curb can cause a new tire and wheel to be damaged.
If the sidewall separation/bubble appears after six months of on-vehicle service, prolonged driving on overloaded/underinflated tires or a road hazard are the most likely causes. However it may take weeks or months after an impact for a separation/bubble to appear as the damaged or bruised area continues to weaken. Unfortunately the time differential between the impact that caused the initial damage and the delayed appearance of visible evidence often means that the driver has forgotten about the impact that damaged the tire in the first place.
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WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS, THE BUYER IS MAKING ALL THESE ACCUSATIONS, BUT WHERE ARE THE PICTURES ?????????

IF YOU BOUGHT SOMETHING AND IT WAS NOT WHAT YOU ORDERED, TAKE A PICTURE OF THE PROBLEM A.S.A.P. POST IT UP WITH ALL THE MENTIONS TO THE SPECIFIC ITEM.

TAKE FULL PICTURE OF THE TIRES WHEN YOU RECIEVED IT IN THE PACKAGING ADDRESSED TO YOU, TAKE PICTURES OF THE SIZE OF THE TIRES, TAKE PICTURES OF THE TIRES MOUNTED, TAKE PICTURES OF THE BUBBLES IN QUESTION AND ANY SPECIFIC DETAILS THAT IS THE TIRES. IMAGINE--YOU'RE GOING TO COURT WHERE YOU HAVE TO PROVE!!!! IT.

SELLER= TIRES ARE GOOD NO BUBBLES
BUYER= TIRES ARE BAD WITH BUBBLES.

THAT'S MY ADVICE.

racerx2k1
11-24-2008, 05:32 PM
Enough. Thread closed.