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obsolete
10-27-2008, 10:50 AM
For those of you who had to do it, did you remove the whole pan by dropping the subframe or whatever method, or is there enough room to apply gasket maker just by separating it from the block?
gippy87
10-27-2008, 11:13 AM
well your gonna wanna remove the whole pan if you plan on doing it right. You should clean both surfaces of any old gasket before applying new gasket and that will require taking the pan completely out
aNskY
10-27-2008, 12:32 PM
you will either need to remove the crossmember or lift the engine slightly
dogg4217
10-28-2008, 11:24 AM
The FSM says to use a hoist to hold the motor up and then remove the cross member.

When I did mine my motor was already on a engine stand, which was really easy.
94porkchop
10-29-2008, 10:54 AM
how do the regualr felpro gaskets hold up?
aNskY
10-29-2008, 04:28 PM
oil pan uses rtv
projectRDM
10-29-2008, 06:19 PM
Stick a jackstand under the bellhousing, then drop the crossmember.
94porkchop
10-30-2008, 05:16 AM
oil pan uses rtv


really i have a brand new felpro sittig in my dining room :fawkd:
obsolete
10-30-2008, 08:10 AM
man, it's really hard to get to some of the bolts. the one bolt on the oil pick up is a bitch to get off.

i just loosened the tranny and engine bolts and lifted it from the bellhousing. got all the bolts off but haven't tried peeling it off yet. i hope it clears the crossmember.

now i read in on of the threads that you have to take out some tranny bolt and put it on the oil pan to take it off? does that sound familiar to anyone?
aNskY
10-30-2008, 10:30 AM
man, it's really hard to get to some of the bolts. the one bolt on the oil pick up is a bitch to get off.

i just loosened the tranny and engine bolts and lifted it from the bellhousing. got all the bolts off but haven't tried peeling it off yet. i hope it clears the crossmember.

now i read in on of the threads that you have to take out some tranny bolt and put it on the oil pan to take it off? does that sound familiar to anyone?


yes theres two holes that are threaded for the smaller trans bolts in the rear of the pan, you just thread the bolts in and the pan pops right off.
TanaMU
10-30-2008, 10:36 AM
how do the regualr felpro gaskets hold up?


Everyone I know who has used em has had to change em out for rtv within a few weeks due to them leaking like mofos.
obsolete
10-30-2008, 10:57 AM
yes theres two holes that are threaded for the smaller trans bolts in the rear of the pan, you just thread the bolts in and the pan pops right off.

so you get the bolts from the trans and thread it into the two holes in the pan? will i be threading it in vertically or horizontally?
aNskY
10-30-2008, 10:59 AM
so you get the bolts from the trans and thread it into the two holes in the pan? will i be threading it in vertically or horizontally?


vertically - just look for the two holes that are threaded in the rear (bottom) of the pan. there are only two.
projectRDM
10-30-2008, 04:21 PM
Everyone I know who has used em has had to change em out for rtv within a few weeks due to them leaking like mofos.

You use both if using a gasket. The RTV seals the gasket to the parts, just as straight RTV does. I've done both methods, either works if you apply the RTV right.
drifter808
10-30-2008, 08:54 PM
i just did this the other day by dropping the crossmember and supporting the engine with jackstands. Took me alot longer than expected but no more leaks. And i just used RTV. working great so far.
obsolete
10-31-2008, 07:58 AM
what a pain. which part of the engine did you support with jackstands? there are six bolts to remove the crossmember? i tried to get away with just lowering it, but looks like i'm gonna have to take it off. no clearance.

side question - can you replace the front main seal without removing the upper pan?
aznpoopy
10-31-2008, 08:14 AM
front main seal is easily accessible once the main crank pulley is off. that's all
projectRDM
10-31-2008, 08:32 AM
what a pain. which part of the engine did you support with jackstands? there are six bolts to remove the crossmember? i tried to get away with just lowering it, but looks like i'm gonna have to take it off. no clearance.

side question - can you replace the front main seal without removing the upper pan?

Did you read my post above? Guess not. Stick one stand under the bellhousing. Done. There are four bolts on the crossmember but you have to remove the LCAs and rack also.