Subframe Spacers

[KingKong8247]

Hey, So I was searching around about these and I found a page that someone had created.

http://www.mindspring.com/~gulag13/Washers/index.htm

Ok so I figure why not try this. But I just want to ask a couple questions. First off does anyone know what the torque specs are for when you put it all back together? Also are there any step-by-step instructions online or if someone who ordered those Greg Dupree spacers can scan the instructions on to the computer that would be great. Also how thick are the Greg Dupree spacers? I figure Ill get enough washers to equal the same thickness as the GD washers and just put them on the bottom instead of both top and bottom since without proper tuning or something this wont have too good of an effect as I have read. Well Thanks a lot.

[Dousan_PG]

i have greg dupree ones, but i dont have the directions

all i gotta say is

greg dupree is cool as hell
makes fine products!!

sorry i cant add anything for specs
but greg's are thicker then that. i can take pics tomorrow for you though.

[Jeff240sx]

Bolt 17mm nut torque should be about 67ft/lbs, and the smaller (14mm?) are 26ft/lbs.
The instructions that came with the GD Spacers were photocopied (about 400 times), and scanning wont produce a decent pic.
-Jeff

[Bbandit]

sorry to ask a stupid question
but whats that for???:confused:

[Jeff240sx]

Originally posted by Bbandit
sorry to ask a stupid question
but whats that for???:confused:
The subframe on our cars are separate from the frame. This is part of most (all?) independant suspension setups.
The main problem is that whatever holds the subframe in place (luck? hope?) will move, and when you hit a bump, or launch, the subframe will hit a rubber ring, like a doorstopper. The rubber eventually wears out and/or the subframe holding mechanism wears, the subframe will get loose, sloppy, and make a thud noise.
The spacers entirely fill up the gap between the subframe and the rubber stopper, which will hold the subframe tight, and keep the "thuds" down.
I haven't been able to drive with them installed, but I can tell you my rear ride hight went up about 1/2".
-Jeff

[Bbandit]

Originally posted by Jeff240sx
The subframe on our cars are separate from the frame. This is part of most (all?) independant suspension setups.
The main problem is that whatever holds the subframe in place (luck? hope?) will move, and when you hit a bump, or launch, the subframe will hit a rubber ring, like a doorstopper. The rubber eventually wears out and/or the subframe holding mechanism wears, the subframe will get loose, sloppy, and make a thud noise.
The spacers entirely fill up the gap between the subframe and the rubber stopper, which will hold the subframe tight, and keep the "thuds" down.
I haven't been able to drive with them installed, but I can tell you my rear ride hight went up about 1/2".
-Jeff

thanks for clearing that up for me jeff
:D

[Toso]

Originally posted by Jeff240sx
The subframe on our cars are separate from the frame. This is part of most (all?) independant suspension setups.
The main problem is that whatever holds the subframe in place (luck? hope?) will move, and when you hit a bump, or launch, the subframe will hit a rubber ring, like a doorstopper. The rubber eventually wears out and/or the subframe holding mechanism wears, the subframe will get loose, sloppy, and make a thud noise.
The spacers entirely fill up the gap between the subframe and the rubber stopper, which will hold the subframe tight, and keep the "thuds" down.
I haven't been able to drive with them installed, but I can tell you my rear ride hight went up about 1/2".
-Jeff

A little clarification. The spacers precompress the gel filled bushings that are used to couple the subframe to the chassis. While some people have claimed that they will quiet a car down, I dont agree with that. I've installed at least 15 sets of spacers on Z32's, S13's, and S14's. The diff on the Z32 and S14 are coupled to the subframe through bushings, the S13 is not. That will increase the 'clunking' in the rear of the S13. I dont think its much worse than stock, but people have complained about it on S13's. As for the change in ride height, I have heard everyone comment on a 1/4" to 1/2" drop in the rear.

[KingKong8247]

Hey, well I guess some pictures would be good but I have seen many pictures of them and I cannot tell the width of them through that. I guess can ya just measure them while your taking the pictures if ya can.
Thanks a lot.