ISIS SR Intake Manifold

[Sileighty_85]

Just saw this new Manifold @ Enjuku ISIS Intake Manifold - Nissan SR20DET S13 - Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://enjukuracing.com/isis-intake-manifold-nissan-sr20det-p-8302.html?cPath=24_62)

Anyone heard of this brand? Looks just like the Greddy Manifold but way affordable.

I was wondering if anyone had an experiance with this manifold yet?

I would definatly buy it if its good quality.

[SoguRacing]

It does look like a greddy knock off. probably better than the ebay specials..and it's polished! bling bling! that will probably be it selling point. If it bolts up nicely i'd buy it.

[SoSideways]

Definitely looks like a GReddy knock off.

Can see the depression on the manifold where the GReddy plaque should stick to if it was a genuine unit.

DON'T BUY KNOCK OFFS.

[blueshark123]

knock offff fo sho homie lol

[SidewayZ-s14]

I'd buy it.

[djcobra]

It's people like these that put reputable companies such as GReddy into bankruptcy.

Don't buy knocks offs!

I have nothing against Enjuku and their site, just the bloody knocks off companies!

[SidewayZ-s14]

It's people like these that put reputable companies such as GReddy into bankruptcy.

Don't buy knocks offs!

I have nothing against Enjuku and their site, just the bloody knocks off companies!

Not all of us can afford the "REAL" deal.
You're pretty much paying for the name anywho.
I'm poor, so i buy knock offs! :ghey:

[BOXCAR]

For a second I thought you were talking about the band and I got all excited.

[vvtisupra]

Not all of us can afford the "REAL" deal.
You're pretty much paying for the name anywho.
I'm poor, so i buy knock offs! :ghey:

That is where you are wrong. Casting is different. More porous more turbulence. Just touching the inside you can tell. You should be making more power on the real greddy unit.



p.s. I don't know anything car related that you're only paying for the name on more expensive products.

[Om1kron]

I don't even think you can get the stock intake manifold for 200 bucks. If anything I would just stick with OEM, the greddy one is bling anyway and causes you to lose bottom end power if you're not making more than 400hp.

Try headwork first and portmatching the intake manifold to match your head and smoothing the runners a bit before going the extreme route and replacing your intake manifold.

[brndck]

Not all of us can afford the "REAL" deal.
You're pretty much paying for the name anywho.
I'm poor, so i buy knock offs! :ghey:

anyone who is interested in making real power and having real durability is willing to shell out the money for name brand parts.
/thread.

[ZX88]

its the same as a freddy on ebay they have polished ones now too.

[anotherblusi]

Not all of us can afford the "REAL" deal.
You're pretty much paying for the name anywho.
I'm poor, so i buy knock offs! :ghey:

If you can't buy the real deal, then don't buy at all. There are way to many cheapasses out there wasting there money on knock off parts, that you probably don't even NEED anyways. 90% of the time you end up spending more to make up for the shortcomings of a knock-off part anyways.

And your not always paying for the name. Do you have any ideas how much it actually costs to design and manufacture a brand new part?

Seriously if your that poor, stop wasting your money on car parts and put it to better use.

[silviaguy240]

Not all of us can afford the "REAL" deal.
You're pretty much paying for the name anywho.
I'm poor, so i buy knock offs! :ghey:

if you're poor, you've got the wrong hobbie

[SidewayZ-s14]

lol. No need for bashing/flaming.
It's not your car, don't worry about it. lol
My car, my cheap parts, my problem.

[kognition]

The simple fact is that you can afford anything. Whether or not you have the discipline to set money aside for legit product is up to you.
Unless you compete, you probably could get along fine with a knockoff. If you do compete in drift or time attack, you usually are more critical of the parts you run.


Not all of us can afford the "REAL" deal.
You're pretty much paying for the name anywho.
I'm poor, so i buy knock offs! :ghey:

[fliprayzin240sx]

lol. No need for bashing/flaming.
It's not your car, don't worry about it. lol
My car, my cheap parts, my problem.

Well, the thing is, you do realize that by supporting the knock offs, your slowly strangling the companies that originally made the parts? Eventually the outcome will be that these companies will go out of business and itll dry up the parts available for our cars. Itll be fucking 1999 all over again...

Noobs honestly cant comprehend how it was before 2002 car parts wise for a S-chassis. Parts were damn near impossible to find...

[wheruatsuk]

Knocks off are for bitches. If you cant tell the difference in performance from a knock off to the real thing then you shouldnt even talkin your just making yourself look like a dumb ass. Have some pride in what you build! if you cant afford the real parts "its called save your money"

[turboboost12004]

dam all this hostility.......over a intake manifold.....lol crazy

[SidewayZ-s14]

The simple fact is that you can afford anything. Whether or not you have the discipline to set money aside for legit product is up to you.
Unless you compete, you probably could get along fine with a knockoff. If you do compete in drift or time attack, you usually are more critical of the parts you run.

I Agree 100%. Thus why i don't find it "Bad" to get a knockoff part. It's not like my whole car is put together with knock offs.
And i do know how hard it was to get parts...

[sac]

The simple fact is that you can afford anything. Whether or not you have the discipline to set money aside for legit product is up to you.
Unless you compete, you probably could get along fine with a knockoff. If you do compete in drift or time attack, you usually are more critical of the parts you run.
pretty much in full agreement... If your competing heavily... REAL DEAL OR GO HOME..

[SidewayZ-s14]

pretty much in full agreement... If your competing heavily... REAL DEAL OR GO HOME..

Yup. That was my point all along.
Just some people don't get it.

[wheruatsuk]

you dont need to back pedal now. if you do drag, drift, or whatever or dont even do neither have some pride in what you build even if you just drive it!

[1989rps13]

Not all of us can afford the "REAL" deal.
You're pretty much paying for the name anywho.
I'm poor, so i buy knock offs! :ghey:

word up ima already on planning to buy the godspeed fmic for my next 240

[RPS13-604]

get the real deal greddy manifold. keep on buying knock off's your gonna be part of the problem of the quality brand company's which makes them go down into the hole.

[handinpants]

It's people like these that put reputable companies such as GReddy into bankruptcy.

Don't buy knocks offs!

I have nothing against Enjuku and their site, just the bloody knocks off companies!

NO!!! Its bad choice of investments, and unreliable management, coupled with more poor decisions, and bad financial management, which help companies go into bankruptcy. :op

speaking of which, when is the greddy bankruptcy liquidation sale?

[RPS13-604]

NO!!! Its bad choice of investments, and unreliable management, coupled with more poor decisions, and bad financial management, which help companies go into bankruptcy. :op

speaking of which, when is the greddy bankruptcy liquidation sale?

Greddy isnt going out of business anymore there just going under a financial re-organization but the products are still gonna be produced

[bejota180sx]

looks just like the "artemis" or whatever intake that the mishimoto car installed...

[PoorMans180SX]

NO!!! Its bad choice of investments, and unreliable management, coupled with more poor decisions, and bad financial management, which help companies go into bankruptcy. :op

speaking of which, when is the greddy bankruptcy liquidation sale?

What's the bottom line?! Knock offs don't help. Greddy makes legit products with their own R&D.

And yeah, they're still in business, but did you notice everything went up like $500?

[Brian]

I can SMELL it!

The smell of HATRED for knockoffs!

:)


:)



This is making BH happy.

[fromxtor]

I just kept the stocker and cleaned up the inside a little.

[TurboStrong]

i thinks its gansta.buy it if u want its shiny!!!!!
knockoff's the real deal whatever as long as it works!!!

[SoSideways]

i thinks its gansta.buy it if u want its shiny!!!!!
knockoff's the real deal whatever as long as it works!!!

Go away.

10 characters.

[aNskY]

I just kept the stocker and cleaned up the inside a little.


That works if youre not looking to improve VE.

kids, seriously, its an intake mani. Why spend more than double the price to do the exact same thing (i bet they are identical down to volume and runner length).

of course someone is gonna say quality is down. ok. show me a blown up mani. 99% of the people here arent making enough power to pop a coupling, let alone a cast aluminum manifold.

[SoSideways]

That works if youre not looking to improve VE.

kids, seriously, its an intake mani. Why spend more than double the price to do the exact same thing (i bet they are identical down to volume and runner length).

of course someone is gonna say quality is down. ok. show me a blown up mani. 99% of the people here arent making enough power to pop a coupling, let alone a cast aluminum manifold.

I've seen holes in knock off intercooler end tanks and knock off intake manifolds from poor molding process, then followed by poor casting process.

I don't know about you, but I don't think pin sized holes everywhere is exactly something that I'd want for a system that will see pressurized air?

[aNskY]

I've seen holes in knock off intercooler end tanks and knock off intake manifolds from poor molding process, then followed by poor casting process.

I don't know about you, but I don't think pin sized holes everywhere is exactly something that I'd want for a system that will see pressurized air?


Pics? Proof? i simply dont believe it. ive had 3-4 ebay IC kits, all flawless. albeit the piping has jagged insides and sharp 90's, but definately NO holes. and the cores are just as nice as ones that cost 4x more.

[Ninjabread]

Haha, Yea, I have aNsKy's old manifold.

Looks fine. I might replace those swivel fittings with solid 90* copper fittings to avoid leaks.

And for the price I paid, I won't complain.

[SoSideways]

Pics? Proof? i simply dont believe it. ive had 3-4 ebay IC kits, all flawless. albeit the piping has jagged insides and sharp 90's, but definately NO holes. and the cores are just as nice as ones that cost 4x more.

I didn't take pics. Weren't my parts.

It was my friend who had a SC300 w/ a 2jz swap (one of the first people to do it I think), and for whatever reason, he bought this eBay Veilside surge tank knock off, and some eBay knock off intercooler.

His car ran like shit, so another friend of mine was working on it, and finally put a pressure tester on it, and could hear air coming out from the intake side and around the intercooler.

Hours passed, and he finally found all the pin holes that were on those parts due to really shitty knock off process and quality control.

Shitty part was, the holes on the intake mani were on the bottom, so he had to feel around until he could feel his finger plugging the hole, then I don't even remember how he filled them (JB weld perhaps? I honestly don't remember), but after two days, he finally got all the holes fixed.

Car ran a lot better after that, but honestly, it's not worth my time and effort to cheap out to buy an inferior part, when I could have just saved up a little more, bought the real part, put it on and not have to worry about pin hole leaks and this or that.

[2Slow40]

I don't buy knock off parts on ebay and everything (mainly because I can't afford my parts not to fit right)

Isn't this anti-knock off trend just as bad as buying parts off the forums?

Greddy's not get any money from that manifold you bought off the classifieds.

[Z33dori]

i buy most of my parts used....

i bought a used Freddy IM for 80 bucks... niether Freddy or Greddy makes money.

[Enjuku Racing]

Enjuku Racing Parts is working on bringing in the lower priced ISIS product line. The aftermarket industry has gone towards the "knock-off" parts in the last few year. The Enjuku name has always stood for quality and we have never been a company to sell these type of parts.

However, as a company if you do not work with the trends you will be left behind. The higher end lines are still what we prefer to sell, but need to cater to everyone these days.

As for this product line in praticular we plan on slowly releasing one product at a time and fully test fit them before completely releasing them to the public. Unlike the Ebay companies that just sell anything to anyone, we want to stand above the rest and provide the same service we have always been known for.

If anyone is interested in doing testing and write-ups on some of these product please contact me at [email protected]

For full test results and write-ups I may be giving some of these products away for free to those that can give them an honest shot and help promote the product line.

We are working on a Front mount intercooler kit that will be identical to the Greddy M-spec and LS Spec. The Ebay knock-offs are not good, and we have seen all of them first hand. Since Greddy has discontinued their lesser expensive Intercooler kits we are working on stepping in to cater to this line.

Please feel free to email me at [email protected] if you are interested in giving any of these full test.

Feel free to email me with any questions or concerns.

Sincerely,

Ken Harrison
Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com)

[Z33dori]

i'd be willing to do a test if i could get ahold of a Greddy IM

that way i could do all 3 since i need to swap mine out.

[Prok0]

The full polished knock off greddy IM on ebay, which looks like the "isis" is actually pretty decent.

A buddy of mine got that and the casting wasnt too bad, definitely a big step up from the cheap 120$ shipped knock off greddy IM's.

Even authentic greddy casting quality has gone down the toilet, the newer oil pans every drain plug strips out but the pans made before the change in manufacturers or casting processes never stripped out.. And you can notice poor casting and machining marks in the pans on top of the drain plug always stripping..

I think it spurred from them not keeping a tight watch on their manufacturing facilities, and the manufacturers decided to take the design and castings and produce their own pans.

[Camo]

A friend of mine just picked up a freddy off ebay and had it at the meet last night. Im glad I haven't decided yet on what Im going to go with. You really do get what you pay for. It looks like absolute shit inside and out. VERY VERY rough inside. I'm interested to see what the reviews are on this ISIS. My car isnt making big hp so a moderate manifold will work. Just tired of all the clutter in the engine bay. IM deff cleans it up alot and YAY I could actually get my fucking monster paws in there to spin that filter on and off.


Hey, Ken, or anybody that has one of the ISIS manifolds, can you get a shot of the inside, and down the runners and post it up here?

[Sileighty_85]

Bump for Ken's Post (#41)

[Phlip]

Enjuku Racing Parts is working on bringing in the lower priced ISIS product line. The aftermarket industry has gone towards the "knock-off" parts in the last few year. The Enjuku name has always stood for quality and we have never been a company to sell these type of parts.

However, as a company if you do not work with the trends you will be left behind. The higher end lines are still what we prefer to sell, but need to cater to everyone these days.

As for this product line in praticular we plan on slowly releasing one product at a time and fully test fit them before completely releasing them to the public. Unlike the Ebay companies that just sell anything to anyone, we want to stand above the rest and provide the same service we have always been known for.

If anyone is interested in doing testing and write-ups on some of these product please contact me at [email protected]

For full test results and write-ups I may be giving some of these products away for free to those that can give them an honest shot and help promote the product line.

We are working on a Front mount intercooler kit that will be identical to the Greddy M-spec and LS Spec. The Ebay knock-offs are not good, and we have seen all of them first hand. Since Greddy has discontinued their lesser expensive Intercooler kits we are working on stepping in to cater to this line.

Please feel free to email me at [email protected] if you are interested in giving any of these full test.

Feel free to email me with any questions or concerns.

Sincerely,

Ken Harrison
Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com)
Looks like a viable explanation to me. Thanks, Ken.

Now, to EVERYONE else:
If ANYONE has ANYTHING to say that is less than constructive, I will close this thread, since that seems to be what you guys like so much these days.

[95KA-Turbo]

Just to add something in there about the price you pay for name brand parts.

You're paying for more then a name, you're paying for all of the R and D that went into the product. The reason knock off companies can charge less for a part that may possibly be constructed as well as the part it is copying is because they have absolutely no R and D in the product. They just take a product that is proven to work and copy it. They then go into a country were there are no rules or laws about copyright infringement and mass produce the product, with or without the same quality ingredients, and sell it for a fraction of the cost.

That being said I'm not ragging/hating/biting/complaining/saying anything about Enjuku in this statement. Just making a blanket statement about knock off parts.

[Hashiriya415]

here's how to stay away from cheap stuff, I was always looking at how cheap some of those cheap brand were always cheaper so I bought couple of things, never lasted always had defects. After thinking, these cheap manufactures don't test anything about their products, I mean they don't even dyno the car or flow test their design in this case. So what I do now is I don't buy anything until I have the money for the real stuff. I know that 2 years ago I couldn't buy a SR20DET but I didn't buy some cheap ebay copy SR that was half the price, instead saved the money and bought a real SR.
So if you buy this how will you know that you won't loose power. It takes hours and hours of engineering to make a good flowing manifold, worst case scenario its some real crappy build and a piece cracks off gets sucked in the engine.

[SidewayZ-s14]

That works if youre not looking to improve VE.

kids, seriously, its an intake mani. Why spend more than double the price to do the exact same thing (i bet they are identical down to volume and runner length).

of course someone is gonna say quality is down. ok. show me a blown up mani. 99% of the people here arent making enough power to pop a coupling, let alone a cast aluminum manifold.

I like this guy.
He speaks the truth.

[Enjuku Racing]

Here are a few pics of the throttle body inlet and the runners. They really look decent to me. We still nee to test fit it before releasing it.

http://enjukuracing.com/ken/inlet.jpg
http://enjukuracing.com/ken/runner.jpg

Let me know your thoughts.

thanks

Ken

[zaquanh]

thanks , they look pretty clean to me , wouldnt mind seeing it on a car , you said you need to fit it before releasuing them ?

i thought there for sale already on the site tho?

[shmiddy]

i wouldnt mind seeing it on a car... i also would love some reviews on the fitment.. vac fittings and all.....

[Z33dori]

Here are a few pics of the throttle body inlet and the runners. They really look decent to me. We still nee to test fit it before releasing it.

http://enjukuracing.com/ken/inlet.jpg
http://enjukuracing.com/ken/runner.jpg

Let me know your thoughts.

thanks

Ken

wow that looks 100x better than the Freddy i got.....

(sorry for the shit pics)
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/Zilvia13/DSC00012.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/Zilvia13/DSC00011.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/Zilvia13/DSC00010.jpg

[el ocho]

Yea its definetly tempting.. i want to pick up the greddy really bad but i mean that almost 500$ in savings is tempting

[shmiddy]

wow that looks 100x better than the freddy i got.....

(sorry for the shit pics)
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/zilvia13/dsc00012.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/zilvia13/dsc00011.jpg
http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j104/zilvia13/dsc00010.jpg

oh fuck thats bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Z33dori]

yea...

i might not even put it on my car... idk yet

[Enjuku Racing]

WOW.. those "freddy" pics are BAD!!!! The ISIS is 100 times better than that.. ahahah

They are on the website, but we are not actually going to sell/ship any until we have them test fitted. We just wanted to get the word out on them.

Thanks

Ken

[Ninjabread]

My freddy looks more like that ISIS one... mhm guess i got lucky.

[dat411kid]

Anxious on hearing reviews/opinions on this manifold.....And guys plz post pics of it fitted,etc...

[Z33dori]

WOW.. those "freddy" pics are BAD!!!! The ISIS is 100 times better than that.. ahahah

They are on the website, but we are not actually going to sell/ship any until we have them test fitted. We just wanted to get the word out on them.

Thanks

Ken

yea the worst part is the cast looks like that all the way through out..... nothing smoothing other than mounting spots.

[Prok0]

Yeah, the regular freddy ebay manifolds have really shitty sand casting, while the polished/isis looking ones seem to have pretty good casts.

Ken, If your looking to test fit it on a motor I could probably throw it on mine. It isnt running yet, but could give you an idea if it has the same little issues as the ebay one..
I believe my buddy's polished ebay one the fuel rail mounting holes were slightly off or something along those lines..
btw, this is AK.

[Camo]

Thanks for the pics ken. That ISIS looks WAAAAY better than the freddy my buddy picked up. The surfaces on the runners were pitted to fuck where it mates to the head and the inside looked about as bad as z33dori's. Total trash. If anybody has any dyno #'s with freddy/greddy/stock mani's and mods, post em up so we can see the difference.

[aNskY]

Here are a few pics of the throttle body inlet and the runners. They really look decent to me. We still nee to test fit it before releasing it.

http://enjukuracing.com/ken/inlet.jpg
http://enjukuracing.com/ken/runner.jpg

Let me know your thoughts.

thanks

Ken


If you run your finger on the inside of a runner, does it come out covered in glass beads?

[Enjuku Racing]

I just put my fingers all in it and its clean!!

Some of the items are being tested this week.

thanks

Ken
Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com)

[MudRacer]

I wanna see an entire sr20det engine built from knockoffs, every single piece.

The car itself should have a knock off suspension, knock off turbo, even the car panels, bodywork. all should be knockoff.

All manifolds, intercooler, pipe lines, brakes, rotors etc. etc. Everything knockoff.

I wanna see that car on the track and see what times it brings. It should compete with a comprable 240sx with same modifications with brand name parts. Each car should be built to make 350hp+

This will prove how crappy knockoff products are. Or well, I dont really know what it would prove.

[bkfill]

I just put my fingers all in it and its clean!!

Some of the items are being tested this week.

thanks

Ken
Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com)

is there one for the S14 SR20?

[Enjuku Racing]

Yes, they do make one for the S14 motor. We just haven brought any in yet. I will see about getting one to test on the next shipment.

Thanks

Ken
Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com)

[slider2828]

OMG I would so buy that.... Geezus... This is why I think Greddy and Top name manufacturers are going outta business or losing business because they have failed to retain top quality for top dollar. Unless you are full on pro racing, these things as long as holding vacuum is ok, it won't make too big of a difference. + For SR20DET's big manufacturers don't give an ass about them because its a 2nd hand market. If you want to save the manufacturers, buy a new car made sometime this decade and put the most expensive thing on it you can find.... But in terms of a 2nd hand market, they don't care any more....

[dat411kid]

^^ I think you mean top quality for low dollar....

[holaback]

knock off parts....always a fav of bfe boys