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drftrps13
10-12-2008, 01:05 AM
ok heres the story. one day i was driving around and i popped an intercooling piping. got the intercooler hooked up the next day cuz i had somewhere to be and had no time. so next day i hooked up the piping and car tries to turn but gets slower and slower at the ignition and just doesnt crank anymore. all it did was click rapidly. yes i kno the starter must be done and i had the starter taken out and rebuild. when i had the starter back i installed it and now nothing happens. i didnt touch anything else and im just in a rut rite now cuz i cant figure it out. any one wit experience or input help me out plz. o when i try to turn the key, it clicks once everytime i try to turn the key. could it be a relay or something?

SoguRacing
10-12-2008, 01:19 AM
DEAD BATTERY. i'm sure your starter was fine. by the way your alternator may be on its way out too. dead batteries tend to lead to alternators going out.

SoguRacing
10-12-2008, 01:22 AM
[email protected] here's my paypal please send $50 for my electrical diagnosis thanks! :keke:

drftrps13
10-12-2008, 01:29 AM
i jump start the car when i tried to crank.

SoguRacing
10-12-2008, 01:42 AM
The symptoms you state lead to a dead battery. so you jump started the car? did it stay on? shut off? stay on when you pulled the jumper cables off? stay on? we need more information. be specific

ticklemeermuel
10-12-2008, 02:03 AM
thinking dead battery try hooking it up to a charger and see if it helps. If you suspect the starter as well try hitting it a couple of times to try and get some life out of it...

drftrps13
10-12-2008, 12:41 PM
the car wouldnt start even when i tried to jump start it. nothing happens just the single click. the starter has just been rebuild. the place i went to showed me that the starter worked so it cant be the starter anymore. could it be the alt?

army240
10-12-2008, 12:52 PM
Is it the only problem??? Does anything like radio, lights aren't working?

fliprayzin240sx
10-12-2008, 01:32 PM
You tried cleaning your battery connectors? Make sure that when you're trying to crank the engine over, that you're pulling atleast 11 volts. SRs dont like to crank over with anything less...

drftrps13
10-12-2008, 01:42 PM
no radio, havent tried the lights. the connecters are clean, i havent checked how much voltage there is. can i just use the voltage reading from my turbo timer, it has one but is it sufficient?

fliprayzin240sx
10-12-2008, 01:48 PM
Should be good enough as long as it stays on when you start cranking. Try it, if it dips starts hitting 10s and lower when your cranking it, your not getting enough voltage...

drftrps13
10-12-2008, 02:06 PM
i just checked and use jumper cables, im getting a bit over 12v. any other suggestions would really be helpful. the car hasnt started for almost a week and i really need this thing moving!!

army240
10-12-2008, 02:43 PM
Check your starter positive and ground cable. Make sure you have a 12V there, and that your ground is clean.

johngriff
10-12-2008, 04:37 PM
Clutch Interlock Relay.

jdm styles
10-12-2008, 07:30 PM
im having the same problem right now to when i start my car i dont have to push in the clutch though but could it still be the clutch interlock relay

jdm styles
10-12-2008, 08:04 PM
i did notice the last couple of times that the car did start seemed like it didnt want to

drftrps13
10-12-2008, 10:18 PM
can u elaborate on the clutch interlock relay?

army240
10-13-2008, 08:10 AM
Here's a basic schematic of a normal starting system.

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5845/startingsystemah3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The starter solenoid(located on top of the starter) is used to move the starter pignon on the flywheel, as well as a relay, to make electrical contact and engage de motor. So if your pignon is not in contact on the flywheel, it won't make the starter motor turn. The "click" that you hear, is the solenoid and pignon moving. As you can see, there is 2 positive cable. One is directly wired on the + of the starter, and the other is just a signal to the solenoid. The solenoid and the starter use the same ground.

So, to have your starter motor cranking your engine you need : Power to the ignition switch, that bring the power to the clutch interlock relay(i'll get to that later) that bring your signal to the solenoid. But you also need a 12V cable directly to the starter motor(standby current). So if you hear a click comming from the starter, you solenoid is moving. But sometimes, it is moving, but because of the wear, it's not making the contact to engage the starter motor. That's why sometimes, people uses a hammer and hit the starter solenoid to unblock the solenoid. But if you test bench your starter and it was turning, it's not that problem(well it shouldn't be).

The clutch interlock relay is just a part that tell your starter : "Hey, i'm not pressing the clutch! Don't start, or my car will be moving!!!" And if it wouldn't be working, you shouldn't hear the "Click" because it control the solenoid.

Sometimes... the starter is strong enough to turn on a bench, but you need to try it under a load. That's why, that I my job, before putting a new or rebuilt starter, we test it on a bench, and with a wooden broom stick, we try to stop the starter gear. It happened only once that a starter had stop during this small test... so it's not really happening often.

So I hope it will help you solving your problem...

Frank

DJ_Sunrise
10-13-2008, 08:12 AM
make sure the positive cable isnt corroded inside. I had the same problem. Replaced my starter, battery ends, etc.. came down to the fact that battery couldnt get any amps cuz of corrosion.

-bart

jdm styles
10-13-2008, 09:26 PM
check alt fuse thats what was wrong with mine 75a

singlecamslam
10-13-2008, 09:30 PM
How weird i had the same exact problem. All the sudden out of the blue my car totally died. Lights, radio, nothing worked. So i took the battery to get it tested and it tested fine. I tried jumper cables and started right up. Check you positive and negative cables they could be coroded.

zidek
10-14-2008, 06:46 AM
i'm having similar probs with mine. where can i find that clutch interlock relay?

drftrps13
10-14-2008, 08:36 PM
i believe its in a compartment under the clutch pedal. its a blue relay. but im not sure what im suppose to do wit it tho.

neilsan
10-14-2008, 10:22 PM
GET A NEW BATTERY. For fun, even. The $30 one I got at Wal-Mart like 4 years ago is still doing great. Can't beat that price.

Sounds like it *could* be failing wiring, but the fact that you were even able to use jumper cables kinda sorta throws out that idea.

Army240- What's a "Pignon"? even as I type it now in Firefox the web browser underscores it with red, indicating it's not in the dictionary.

drftrps13
10-15-2008, 01:55 AM
a friend of mine concluded that the wiring might be the suspect in the failed start up. anyone else wit some advice?

army240
10-15-2008, 05:51 AM
Army240- What's a "Pignon"? even as I type it now in Firefox the web browser underscores it with red, indicating it's not in the dictionary.

Sorry it's a french word, it's the starter gear(not the flywheel)(A.K.A. Bendix)

:fruit:

homeslicej2
10-15-2008, 07:56 AM
i believe its in a compartment under the clutch pedal. its a blue relay. but im not sure what im suppose to do wit it tho.No, the clutch interlock relay is located behind the stock battery location on the fenderwell. If you've relocated you batteries for the IC piping, you should see the blue relay there. There is a sensor under the clutch pedal that the clutch pedal "hits" when you depress it, but that is not the clutch interlock relay. http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w139/homeslicej2/240%20OEM%20parts%20pages/s13_Relays.gif The Clutch realy is number 25223V in this pic. These are not necessarily Nissan part numbers. They are numbers that Courtesy parts uses for their online ordering system. I vote for new battery first as well. Take it out, have it tested, and replace if necessary.

drftrps13
10-15-2008, 12:27 PM
ive checked and i cannot seem to locate the clutch relay as pointed by homeslicej2 which i appreciate for the help and everyone else that has contributed.

drftrps13
10-15-2008, 12:34 PM
would it matter in locating if it was sr? or is it same place regardless?

nrmskate
10-15-2008, 12:45 PM
I had the same problem, got my starter checked.

Check out fine.

Checked the battery, has 12v.

But, the battery would read 12v, but it depends on how many amps its ACTUALLY getting.

I put it in the charger for about 3-6 hours.

And bam, started right up.

drftrps13
10-15-2008, 01:52 PM
ok i removed the battery and found the blue relay. am i suppose to replace wit new or wat?

Addicted2Kouki
10-15-2008, 09:56 PM
I had the same problem, got my starter checked.

Check out fine.

Checked the battery, has 12v.

But, the battery would read 12v, but it depends on how many amps its ACTUALLY getting.

I put it in the charger for about 3-6 hours.

And bam, started right up.

exactly.

OP is clueless.


ok i removed the battery and found the blue relay. am i suppose to replace wit new or wat?

dude.... im in long beach.
your posts makes me feel bad from your lack of knowledge.

PM me your number and ill check it out.
Just have a pack of Marlboro menthols waiting for me.

TheHustleHouse
11-12-2008, 01:10 PM
dude, im having the same problem EXACTLY 2 weeks no start just clicks. Was ur car an auto before?

Sileighty_85
11-12-2008, 07:17 PM
I had the same problem, got my starter checked.

Check out fine.

Checked the battery, has 12v.

But, the battery would read 12v, but it depends on how many amps its ACTUALLY getting.

I put it in the charger for about 3-6 hours.

And bam, started right up.

+1 also

It is possible to have Voltage but no Amps
Starter need Amps to turn the engine