?'s about new 95

[B_mart24]

Hey all, so I just bought my third 240. Its a concord grey 95 SE. Its all original 78k miles, perfect interior and very nice exterior. Anyways, I notcied that the steering wheel doesnt tilt, and the cluster isn't white. Now, the old man I bought it from was the original owner and said he hasnt done anything but rountine maintanace on this car. I ran the vin and it is indeed an SE. So whats up with the not white cluster, and the non-tilt wheel? Did they not do those features on the 95 or what? Sorry if this is a n00b question or something, but yeah I was just really curious.
Thanks

[kunihongo]

hmm.. that is strange? i have a 95 SE also but my steering wheel tilts and have a white faced cluster. do you have 5 lug?

[B_mart24]

yeah its 5 lug but its got steelies and hub caps....wtf is up with this car?

[enjoisk8board891]

seems like you got ripped off...every SE ive seen comes with both those options. And steelies with caps? wtf someone did somethin to the car....

[B_mart24]

yeah thats what i was wondering, but when the bank ran the vin too it pops up as an SE. I mean its got power everything including sunroof, cruise, abs, i just dunno about the wheel n stuff.

[LA_phantom_240]

All SEs should have had 16" alloy wheels and white faced gauges. Tilt wheel I would assume is also standard, but I can't say for sure. Mind you, the gauges are just superficial... but they should still be there nonetheless.

Looks like he bent you over.

How much did you pay, if you don't mind me asking?

[B_mart24]

3800 the car is really really sharp, i could care less about the stuff, i was just curious ya know, plus i love the paint! you think that price is too high??

[GSXRJJordan]

Nope, price is definitely within reason for such low miles, in good condition. Makes you wonder, though, when you see things like non-SE gauges and wheels. Could be a dealer fluke (I got a VW GTi mk4 with hubcaps, because they sold the wheels to someone with a Golf who wanted GTI wheels - got a screamin deal). Whatever. You've got a new-ish motor, 5lug, and a sunroof - enjoy.

[xplicit240]

yeah dont complain. i actually dont like those white gauge cluster anyways. kinda tacky IMO

now start modding !

[B_mart24]

trust me im very happy with it either way, i love it, its my first s14 and im in love ha. thanks for the input everyone, ill be posting some pix probably this weekend in the pix thread.

[JRas]

fairly sure all SE's came with white-faced clusters

Is it 4 or 5 lug?

Do you have a sunroof/moonroof?

my base ( non-se ) came with a tilting wheel I think black thing to the left of the steering wheel lift up move wheel up and down?

[B_mart24]

yeah its 5 lug but its got steelies and hub caps

I mean its got power everything including sunroof (http://zilvia.net/f/chat/216967-s-about-new-95-a.html#)

Im pretty sure that it doesnt have a tilt wheel unless im retarded, which is usually the case, when i looked at it it was dark out, i guess ill know for sure when i pick it up saturday morning

[WangonwWarrior]

tt must have been ordered specially like that, dont know why though. It must have made it cheaper

[808_s13]

tt must have been ordered specially like that, dont know why though. It must have made it cheaper


may be the most logical reason.
And the carfax says its an SE.

carfax doesnt lie man.

-makua[ace]

[B_mart24]

yeah im guessing, like i said, oh well, it really doesnt matter to me. just thought it was interesting. Thanks guys

[projectRDM]

These threads make me want to kill babies.

All SEs came with tilt wheel, period. If the owner has swapped shit out or moved shit around, fine, but it's a base model if you don't have tilt, I don't care what else is fitted to the car.

[B_mart24]

so your saying that its a base model no matter what? Even with the vin saying its an SE, its got 5 lug swap, ABS added, power sunroof. but those were all just added on, by an old guy who says he hasnt changed anything like that.

[JRas]

so your saying that its a base model no matter what? Even with the vin saying its an SE, its got 5 lug swap, ABS added, power sunroof. but those were all just added on, by an old guy who says he hasnt changed anything like that.

I bet it's an SE, just from all those options

there's is a black lever to the left of the steering wheel, you lift it up and move the wheel up and down to the desired position, than put the level back into place locking the positions.

[B_mart24]

there's is a black lever to the left of the steering wheel, you lift it up and move the wheel up and down to the desired position, than put the level back into place locking the positions.

its not there man, its just the housing all the way back, no levver, no nothing.

[B_mart24]

All SEs came with tilt wheel, period.

According to this gentleman, my car is a base model, EVEN though carfax says its an SE. but yeah the only way it can be an se is to have tilt.

no tilt, no se

[JRas]

its not there man, its just the housing all the way back, no levver, no nothing.

it may be possible he removed it but take a look at this picture just to make sure

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3435/wheel005md6.jpg

[B_mart24]

ya man, i know what your talkin about. when i was looking for it, i didnt see it. it might be there, or not. but im pretty sure its not. i will know early saturday morning when i get in it and make the 3 hour drive home. but its well worth it.

[MudRacer]

Dude!
I have a 95 240SX. It is a base model, Not an SE, i do not have 5 lug. I have 4 lugs, black odometer. I have Tilt wheel like it shows in the pic above. I have a sunroof/moon roof in my car. Power windows, power locks, cruise are all there. But my 240sx embelm in the back is in gold color instead of silver.

Maybe they tried all sorts of things in 95 with this model. It being the first and all.

[B_mart24]

yeah im startin to find out more and more things about these 95s....they went with some crazy shit on some of these models. lol

[MudRacer]

yea more than likely your steering wheel is stock. I dont know who would go through the step to order one without the tilt. It makes no sense. What month/year was it built. What batch. I will check mine tomorrow.

[B_mart24]

i dunno man, its wierd tho. ill look on saturday and try to find out, but yeah something is up with our cars mang

[mrmephistopheles]

Power door locks and rear swaybar?

[B_mart24]

Power door locks and rear swaybar?


yessir i got them!

[s13 @ fullboost]

Post pics please!!!!

[cc4usmc]

so your saying that its a base model no matter what? Even with the vin saying its an SE, its got 5 lug swap, ABS added, power sunroof. but those were all just added on, by an old guy who says he hasnt changed anything like that.

You're being sarcastic when you say there is a possibility you just plain missed it? :tardrim:

[B_mart24]

like i said, ill get pix when i get to the car on saturday.

[B_mart24]

and yes i was being sarcastic

[S14DB]

What is the Model Number on the build plate? It's the plate on the Firewall. The Model Number is below the VIN on the plate. This is the only way to tell what it is.

[projectRDM]

Dude!
I have a 95 240SX. It is a base model, Not an SE, i do not have 5 lug. I have 4 lugs, black odometer. I have Tilt wheel like it shows in the pic above. I have a sunroof/moon roof in my car. Power windows, power locks, cruise are all there. But my 240sx embelm in the back is in gold color instead of silver.

Maybe they tried all sorts of things in 95 with this model. It being the first and all.

No, they didn't. Power locks and cruise were an option on 95 base models, as was the sunroof. The gold emblem means the dealer put on a gold package, that's not OE.

And both Carfax and the VIN cannot tell you if it's an SE or base model.

To be an 95 SE you must have:

6speaker CD system with power antenna
white face gauges
diamond print seat pattern
driverside lumbar support
5lug hubs
front lip
rear spoiler
foglights
rear swaybar
keyless entry/alarm

However you could get nearly all those besides the seats, gauges, and hubs as an OE option or installed at the dealer. And then someone could have put those all on after buying it too. But if does not have a tilt wheel, it's a base model, you just happen to have all the SE options installed on your car.

[Chernobyl]

Sounds like the car had been stolen before and they broke the steering column / gauges. And the single owner never claimed it on insurance?

[blueshark123]

i thought all 95's came with tilt both my base models came with it ?

[cdlong]

To be an 95 SE you must have:...


you forgot the fixed/variable intermitent wipers.

B mart, check the build date, if it's very early, they may have been working out option packages and whatnot. i can't imagine someone would change the hubs to 5 lug so they could rock steelies. maybe they were for snow tires and he sold the alloys.

my '95 base model has a tilt wheel too.

[exitspeed]

Did you ask the guy you bought it from?

It IS possible to special order cars certain ways and wait for ever for it. Maybe he was just weird.

I'd ask him if at the time he ordered it any specific way.

[projectRDM]

you forgot the fixed/variable intermittent wipers.


Nice catch, I'm slipping.

[MudRacer]

No, they didn't. Power locks and cruise were an option on 95 base models, as was the sunroof. The gold emblem means the dealer put on a gold package, that's not OE.

And both Carfax and the VIN cannot tell you if it's an SE or base model.

To be an 95 SE you must have:

6speaker CD system with power antenna
white face gauges
diamond print seat pattern
driverside lumbar support
5lug hubs
front lip
rear spoiler
foglights
rear swaybar
keyless entry/alarm

However you could get nearly all those besides the seats, gauges, and hubs as an OE option or installed at the dealer. And then someone could have put those all on after buying it too. But if does not have a tilt wheel, it's a base model, you just happen to have all the SE options installed on your car.


So the Gold '240SX' and the 'Nissan' Logo in the back are not OE? I dont like them anyway, it looks whack on black.
My antenna is also power but you can see that it was installed later cuz the motor underneath does not look like a stock installation. It sits right next to the jack, and it does not look comfortable. So my car is in no way an SE model. But I do have tilt and im sure that all base models came with it. Since i have none of the above listed requirements for an SE.

Manufactured date OP?

[projectRDM]

So the Gold '240SX' and the 'Nissan' Logo in the back are not OE? I dont like them anyway, it looks whack on black.
My antenna is also power but you can see that it was installed later cuz the motor underneath does not look like a stock installation. It sits right next to the jack, and it does not look comfortable. So my car is in no way an SE model. But I do have tilt and im sure that all base models came with it. Since i have none of the above listed requirements for an SE.

Manufactured date OP?

No. Gold packages were popular in the 90s and a lot of dealers offered it as an add-on to get some more money for the car. We used to do at a place I worked for dealerships all over Atlanta. The OE emblems are chrome on Zenki models.

[exitspeed]

No. Gold packages were popular in the 90s and a lot of dealers offered it as an add-on to get some more money for the car. We used to do at a place I worked for dealerships all over Atlanta. The OE emblems are chrome on Zenki models.

They sure were. Gold emblems were cool shit back then. I loved white cars with gold emblems.

[MudRacer]

They sure were. Gold emblems were cool shit back then. I loved white cars with gold emblems.

So...

Does that mean my car has more value with gold emblems? :)

[Lith]

1995 240sx Specs (US version.. Canadian models were different, we didn't have the base version, just SE and LE.. the SE was like the american base version, but slightly different. The LE was the fully loaded one, like the american SE version).
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/Lith808/95a.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/Lith808/95b.jpg
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b206/Lith808/95c.jpg

[bigOdom1]

here is what everyone is missing, when you register your car, in alabama at least, they ask if the 240sx is se or coupe (yeah even the s14 it has happened to me twice when registering in a new district) if the owner thought he had the se and told the person at the DMV that it was an SE then carfax will also think it is an se because they get info from the states not the manufacturers. if your car does not meet russ's se list then its a base with options. we all know how screwy the packages and options were on s14 cars

[cdlong]

My antenna is also power but you can see that it was installed later cuz the motor underneath does not look like a stock installation. It sits right next to the jack, and it does not look comfortable.

my base model has a power antenna and it sits right next to the jack too. i think it's part of the 6 speaker package, which i also have.

[MudRacer]

my base model has a power antenna and it sits right next to the jack too. i think it's part of the 6 speaker package, which i also have.

Yep, got the 6 speaker package as well. Them tweeters are pretty good for a 13 year old car

[warumono]

every s14 i have owed 2 95s and a 97 have all said se/le on the title and when I ran the vin. the 97 was a base and on the title is say SE/LE so it tricky to actually know. but if you have black gauges and a no tilt steering wheel you have a base.

[projectRDM]

my base model has a power antenna and it sits right next to the jack too. i think it's part of the 6 speaker package, which i also have.

It is, but only in 1995. In 1996 the power antenna wasn't offered on base or SE, and base models were only available with 4spkr cassette radio, the upgrade system wasn't available. The power antenna wasn't offered again until the 1998 LE model. The Apillar tweeters weren't offered at all in 97-98 either, but all S14s are prewired for them, whether it has the 4spkr or 6 spkr system.

[illvialuver]

Dude!
I have a 95 240SX. It is a base model, Not an SE, i do not have 5 lug. I have 4 lugs, black odometer. I have Tilt wheel like it shows in the pic above. I have a sunroof/moon roof in my car. Power windows, power locks, cruise are all there. But my 240sx embelm in the back is in gold color instead of silver.

Maybe they tried all sorts of things in 95 with this model. It being the first and all.

I have never in my life seen an s14 with out tilt wheel, I bet you it is there, and you didnnot notice it. sometimes when I park the car for a while i will go to tilt the wheel and i cant find it, and it is there. sounds retarded, but it is there.
My base model 95 had tilt and no abs, my 96 is not se and has abs, but no five lug, i converted it. it came with abs but no auto door locks.



okay no think about this, he could have been a cheap ass, and told the dealer ship that he did not want the alloys, and opted for caps, or his wheels could have been stollen and he just replaced them with caps cause it would be cheaper if you didnt know about 240s forums. brand new there expensive, just go check for them at courtesy parts.

and about the gauge cluster, maybe the clock went out on his white faced one, and when it was replaced some noob at the dealership ordered the wrong one, or he was just to cheap to pay for the white one.

[illvialuver]

here is what everyone is missing, when you register your car, in alabama at least, they ask if the 240sx is se or coupe (yeah even the s14 it has happened to me twice when registering in a new district) if the owner thought he had the se and told the person at the DMV that it was an SE then carfax will also think it is an se because they get info from the states not the manufacturers. if your car does not meet russ's se list then its a base with options. we all know how screwy the packages and options were on s14 cars

doesnt it say that it is an se on the pink slip?

[projectRDM]

doesnt it say that it is an se on the pink slip?

The title reports whatever the owner or tag recipient says, for example if the dealership sent the tag request in when it was new and typoed it, the car is registered as an SE even if it isn't.

My first car I ever owned was a Datsun 210 but the title said WPLB310.

[B_mart24]

hmm these are all great points! i never thought about some of these, it makes sence now. It looks like I have a base model with some of the SE options, which is cool with me. and I guess that Im partiallly blind cuz it sounds like I just didnt see the tilt part? Who knows? I guess i will find everything out and post some pix tomorrow afternoon! Im excited to finally bring it home!!

Thanks everyone, you rock

[S14DB]

hmm these are all great points! i never thought about some of these, it makes sence now. It looks like I have a base model with some of the SE options, which is cool with me. and I guess that Im partiallly blind cuz it sounds like I just didnt see the tilt part? Who knows? I guess i will find everything out and post some pix tomorrow afternoon! Im excited to finally bring it home!!

Thanks everyone, you rock

Just get the Model number off the plate on the firewall. It's the only way to tell 100%.

[B_mart24]

will it say right there if its an SE or not? or will it give me some code that means its an Se or Base??????

[S14DB]

will it say right there if its an SE or not? or will it give me some code that means its an Se or Base??????

Some Code. I know how to read the options in the code. Body Type, Engine, Axle, LHD/RHD, Grade(Base/LE/SE), Transmission, Emissions are all in the code.

[B_mart24]

alright, so heres the deal, im retarded or something cuz i missed the tilt, it was there. it is a base model, and me being the retard that i am, didnt look under the hub caps till i got home, it had 4 lugs under a 5 lug hub cap, wtf is that? but yeah, oh well, I LOVE IT!

[S14DB]

So, what's the model number?

[sr20boostn20]

im gonna say when the original owner bought it from the dealer he didn't want alloy wheels or a tilt wheel,

thats all i can think of

[Wabash9000]

my 95 base has the power everything, premium sound, and the sunroof.

[MudRacer]

Like the OP said:

alright, so heres the deal, im retarded or something cuz i missed the tilt, it was there. it is a base model, and me being the retard that i am, didnt look under the hub caps till i got home, it had 4 lugs under a 5 lug hub cap, wtf is that? but yeah, oh well, I LOVE IT!

He has a simple base vehicle like the rest of us. Someone put on a fake 5lug hubcaps on his 4 lug steelies.

[nismo 240sx]

the tilt wheel could of broken off and been stuck at the same position it was set as...possible could of changed the wheels as well..but idk

[projectRDM]

the tilt wheel could of broken off and been stuck at the same position it was set as...possible could of changed the wheels as well..but idk

Nice reading skills, he already explained both points.

Can we close this now that we've found he just owns a regular base model?

[Phlip]

Can we close this now that we've found he just owns a regular base model?
Sure thing!