Bye-bye Heavy Throttle :/

[jspaeth]

Unfortunately, due to ~80% reduction in sales (probably from a lot of little bitches buying Chinese parts), they are going out of business.

Stop buying cheap Chinese SHIT!

[luisgonz]

Stop buying cheap Chinese SHIT!

Like if thats ever going to happen. They will be missed.

I think most of the cars on here have that shit on them!

[SoSideways]

I just purchased a set of Circuit Sport turbo line from them last month, even though they were out of stock. Jeff asked me if I needed it fast, which I said I did. He then gave me the option of canceling the order so I could purchase it from somewhere else that had it in stock, but I wanted to keep the order with them, because I've already placed my order with them and I wanted them to have the business.

Jeff and the gang are good guys definitely!

Helped the community along since the early days when the 240/SR movement blew up.

You guys will be missed!!

Edit - where did you see that they're closing? It's not on their site?

[dat411kid]

More and more of the official companies are going under....Soon we will only be left with knockoffs that dont give a shit about the car enthusiast but instead, trying to create cheap shit for a quick buck....

[smelly240]

get ready to make your own parts people... soon you'll have to.

I ordered parts from them years ago and it was a good experience. i make my own parts at this point... its better than buying the chinese garbage.

[Silverbullet]

More and more of the official companies are going under....Soon we will only be left with knockoffs that dont give a shit about the car enthusiast but instead, trying to create cheap shit for a quick buck....

Heavy Throttle dosn't manufacture anything. They only resell other company's products and i guess they do labor stuff too. Other online stores such as Enjuku just simply out did them because they advertised.

[EDacIouSX]

get ready to make your own parts people... soon you'll have to.

I ordered parts from them years ago and it was a good experience. i make my own parts at this point... its better than buying the chinese garbage.

lol i got some paper masche. trying ot make a turbo out of it.

[jspaeth]

Well I know this because I ordered a Greddy IM from them, and they were backordered, and in the process (Jeff doesn't have it yet), this all happened.

I canceled my order, and it looks like the only way I can get my money back is to take it up with my bank/credit card.

Sucks for both parties involved.

[SoSideways]

Heavy Throttle dosn't manufacture anything. They only resell other company's products and i guess they do labor stuff too. Other online stores such as Enjuku just simply out did them because they advertised.

Well, they were the first group of guys to come out with the "heater hose kit" for the SRs, as well as the AIV plug.

I think they were also the first guys to have the proper Gates belts for the SRs, before the OEM Nissan belts were near attainable at a reasonable price here.

So yes, they did in a sense "make some stuff", even though it was more like they made it happen more than anything.

[luisgonz]

lol i got some paper masche. trying ot make a turbo out of it.

Sounds like zilvia group.LOL

[jverz]

lol i got some paper masche. trying ot make a turbo out of it.

Just use a leafblower! =))

[s13 @ fullboost]

lol i got some paper masche. trying ot make a turbo out of it.

make sure you do a write up on how exactly you did it =]

[mRclARK1]

:-/

That is seriously shitty news. I've had work down by their shop and it was top notch stuff. They rewired an engine harness for me and the thing looked brand new.

[2Slow40]

Is this true?

Fuck man, Heavy Throttle kicked ass. Good motors + good warranty = win

[mRclARK1]

^^^ For sure. I recommended them to countless people in the last couple years.

[0100]

Heavy Throttle dosn't manufacture anything. They only resell other company's products and i guess they do labor stuff too. Other online stores such as Enjuku just simply out did them because they advertised.


+1

HT was the OG's of the sr swaps, I think my first sr swap was using their online guide, but they are pretty much just a store and when the prices are cheaper somewhere else, well... Plus a lot of noobs aren't going to know about you if your not advertising.

[exitspeed]

Wow, that sucks. Never bought anything from them, but they've been around forever.

Bummer.

[MomentumGT]

This is bad news for sure. They helped me out with my first sr swap back in early 2001 with all the noob questions I had.

-Jon

[2Slow40]

LAME!

I was planning on calling them today about a motor!

After I saw this I called them right away, sure enough, I got the sad voicemail message saying they're closed.

Kinda figured engine swaps sales would probably be drying up now though. Half the 240's already have swaps and the scene doesnt seem to be as big as it was before.

[SILVIA_KIDs14.5]

yeah that sucks i had purchased stuff from them as well Jeff was very accomidating and worked with me a lot even purchased some stuff from me as well.....here is a state ment form there site which confirms it so sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HT is CLOSED and filing for BANKRUPTCY
NO MORE ORDERS WILL BE ACCEPTED OR PROCESSED
Customers with unshipped items will be contacted by email with details & options.

My sincerest thanks goes out to all in the 240SX & SR20DET Community
who I have met, spoken and worked with over the past 7 years. It's been a
great time and I hope we will be remembered for helping our friends and
customers build the cars that kick everyone's ass out on the streets!

See you at the track! Good luck and DRIFT ON!

- Jeff Holden, Owner, Heavy Throttle

This site has been sold to www.Phase2Motortrend.com (http://www.phase2motortrend.com/)
Please contact them for any NEW orders.

[email protected] ([email protected]) email will be working for a few more weeks as we shut down.

[trsilvias13]

Its to hear they are gone. I remember in 2001 when they were people to turn to. They are very helpful. I did my swap with their guide too.

[s14unimog]

The first SR swap I did, back in 2003, was bought from them. I can still say today that was one of the cleanest motor sets I have ever seen. I wish it wasn't so.

[HyperTek]

wow sad to hear this.. they where one of the OG 240sx aftermarket suppliers in the game

[A Spec Products]

Yeah definitely OG in the game

The thing you guys gotta remember is that most shops have a short shelf life, usually maybe 2-3 years, maybe less sometimes

So for Heavy Throttle to be in business this long definitely speaks volumes for their reputation

This industry is highly competitive, with very low margins, and isn't necessarily the money pot that a lot of consumers assume it to be...then throw in a suffering U.S economy...not easy :(

[ZipTiedCoupe]

Hypertek: Who is the girl in your avatar?

In regaurds: It sucks to see them go. I have usd there writeups and had the pleasure of talking to Jeff before too. Sucks man.

Economy is jacked and everyone is suffering.

[HyperTek]

says under my name lol

[SoSideways]

yeah that sucks i had purchased stuff from them as well Jeff was very accomidating and worked with me a lot even purchased some stuff from me as well.....here is a state ment form there site which confirms it so sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HT is CLOSED and filing for BANKRUPTCY
NO MORE ORDERS WILL BE ACCEPTED OR PROCESSED
Customers with unshipped items will be contacted by email with details & options.

My sincerest thanks goes out to all in the 240SX & SR20DET Community
who I have met, spoken and worked with over the past 7 years. It's been a
great time and I hope we will be remembered for helping our friends and
customers build the cars that kick everyone's ass out on the streets!

See you at the track! Good luck and DRIFT ON!

- Jeff Holden, Owner, Heavy Throttle

This site has been sold to www.Phase2Motortrend.com (http://www.phase2motortrend.com/)
Please contact them for any NEW orders.

[email protected] ([email protected]) email will be working for a few more weeks as we shut down.



Yeah they just put that up then, because when I made my first post in this thread, that wasn't up there yet.

[slider2828]

Same here, I used their write ups a lot and a great resource too. I haven't purchased from them because Phase2 just seemed to have more competitive pricing and closer since ima in cali.

[orangejdmsilvia]

they were the shop that was there before i had a 240, they were the shop that was there when i had a 240..

good luck and big ups to jeff and the HT crew.

a very good business company.

[IIIXziuR]

Lela Star

Wow this is pretty horrible news.
I just visited their website to confirm and it sucks to read they had to file for bankruptcy.
They were like one of the very few S-Car Specialits on the East Coast.

[Modrified]

wow. sorry to hear. heavy throttle was definitely one of the place to go. great service.

[jspaeth]

Does anyone have any advice for me?

If they are bankrupt, is there any chance of me ever getting my money back?

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[projectRDM]

Yeah definitely OG in the game

The thing you guys gotta remember is that most shops have a short shelf life, usually maybe 2-3 years, maybe less sometimes

So for Heavy Throttle to be in business this long definitely speaks volumes for their reputation

This industry is highly competitive, with very low margins, and isn't necessarily the money pot that a lot of consumers assume it to be...then throw in a suffering U.S economy...not easy :(

Agreed. With some many hack shops springing up over night, cutting corners, doing shitty work, or importing trashed engines the big places suffer because no one wants to pay for quality parts and service. These kids don't see paying an extra $500-1000 for work that's reliable, then cry when it breaks down and no one is around to fix it for them. HT stood behind their work for years when they didn't even need to, the work was that good. Blame the newcomers, they're the ones demanding cheap and easy solutions because they can't afford anything better.
No one is willing to pay for quality anymore, it's all about how much they can afford on this week's allowance and still be able to buy video games.

[IIIXziuR]

Does anyone have any advice for me?

If they are bankrupt, is there any chance of me ever getting my money back?

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Did you contact them?
I though I saw something regarding this on their mainpage.

[jspaeth]

Yes I did, and have been exchanging emails with Jeff....

What I am saying, is from a practical standpoint, how can my bank get me my money back if there is no money there?

has anyone ever been in this situation, trying to get money back from a bankrupt company?

this fucking sucks :-/

[jspaeth]

Agreed. With some many hack shops springing up over night, cutting corners, doing shitty work, or importing trashed engines the big places suffer because no one wants to pay for quality parts and service. These kids don't see paying an extra $500-1000 for work that's reliable, then cry when it breaks down and no one is around to fix it for them. HT stood behind their work for years when they didn't even need to, the work was that good. Blame the newcomers, they're the ones demanding cheap and easy solutions because they can't afford anything better.
No one is willing to pay for quality anymore, it's all about how much they can afford on this week's allowance and still be able to buy video games.

My friends laughed at me when I told them I payed $1500 in labor for my motor swap (along with install of clutch, intercooler, etc.)....

Have not ever had a SINGLE problem with the car since then....I laugh at people with these posts about their electrical problems and what not.....you get what you pay for.

[jskateborders]

Unfortunately, due to ~80% reduction in sales (probably from a lot of little bitches buying Chinese parts), they are going out of business.

Stop buying cheap Chinese SHIT!
Not really from buying chinese shit. Its prolly the same reason alot of buisiness's are going under. They rely on revolving credit, as do most retail companies. Unfortunately, loans have been halted due to the current economic crisis, and at the same time, less people have the excess income to buy toys for their cars. Sucks, but were going to see alot of businesses go under before this is over. Hopefully some of the shitty ones take the brunt so the remaining customers can support the good ones.

[Brian]

...and this is why we are responsible for our own downfall.

[A Spec Products]

I don't think its really a matter of where the country of origin is for parts

The majority of stuff (if not all) that you use, eat, etc are all from countries other than the U.S

The issue lies in QUALITY CONTROL

Many famous "JDM" companies in Japan outsource their parts production to other countries, its a well known fact, but its their value, R&D, and QC that makes these parts to appear "better" than their counterparts in other countries

I think the issue isn't with Chinese/Korean/Taiwan/Philippines/insertcountryhere parts, but rather the fact that the people doing these parts don't take the time to add value, do research and development, test and modify, etc. The bad ones are the ones who just slap a label on whatever came from the factory and just sell for $X dollars...without a concern for safety, value, or performance

I just hope that a lot of these companies that have made "knockoff" products, as they get bigger, use that money and success to put back in quality control and value into their lineups

There's a lot of cracks that I see in this industry beyond this issue, and its a pretty circular argument, but I think the main point is to support businesses that support YOU, and don't buy just based on price

I think as a consumer as long as you stay practical, and purchase using logic (cheapest /= best place), you'll end up supporting the right companies without even trying to do so

[dmragecm]

Heard the news from Jeff this afternoon. It fuckin really sucked hearing that. Jeff was hands down one of the best people Ive ever dealt with. I hope we here from him soon. The scene needs more people like him.

[LA_phantom_240]

Sucks to see them go under. I never purchased from them cause the stuff they carry, while top notch, is out of my price range... and mostly SR20 stuff (motor-wise). In my defense, the parts they HAD, I never went out and bought cheap knockoff equivalents, like RUCAs, etc.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Does anyone have any advice for me?

If they are bankrupt, is there any chance of me ever getting my money back?

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What did you use to pay for it? If you used a bankcard thats backed by a credit card company. Call the credit card company. They should be able to get your money back. Shit like this happend to be 4 yrs ago when this one company gave me the run around before they filed for bankruptcy. I called my bank first, they transfered me to Mastercard rep and I told her whats going on. She asked me to fax her a letter explaining what happend. 3 days later, I got my checking accounted debited the money back into it ($1200).

Anyways, I've never personally bought anything from HT but they have always been helpful. I dont think there has been anybody in here who never used their SR20 Swap guide. They were some of the OGs who helped make the SR20 swap a mainstream thing. How many people/shop other than them helped the enthusiast by sharing the info they have. They could have easily made money doing swap harnesses instead of laying out the info for everybody to have access to.

PS: Is there anyway we can copy the SR20 SWAP Guide they have and post it up on the SR20 FAQS?!?!

[jspaeth]

[quote=fliprayzin240sx;2353368]What did you use to pay for it? If you used a bankcard thats backed by a credit card company. Call the credit card company. They should be able to get your money back. Shit like this happend to be 4 yrs ago when this one company gave me the run around before they filed for bankruptcy. I called my bank first, they transfered me to Mastercard rep and I told her whats going on. She asked me to fax her a letter explaining what happend. 3 days later, I got my checking accounted debited the money back into it ($1200).

quote]


Thanks for the advice.......I will have to check......it's a debit card that says VISA on it, so when I use it as a credit card, it still debits the money.......a.k.a. the money is already missing from my account.

[Rittmeister]

This is a shame... dealt with them several times over the last five years or so. I hope the owners do well wherever they hang their hats next.

[xplicit240]

wow. this is just not a good sign for anyone in this industry.

oh and for the OP if you need a manifold try cntacting CIP Motorsports. i think they should have them in stock.

[jspaeth]

wow. this is just not a good sign for anyone in this industry.

oh and for the OP if you need a manifold try cntacting CIP Motorsports. i think they should have them in stock.


Thanks, I am in contact with FR Sport, who I have had nothing but GREAT experiences with whenever I've purchased from them......they have one waiting for me to buy.

BTW, does anyone actually know the girl Kat that works for FR Sport? I got her on the phone once when I called them and she seemed really sweet and tuner and just SOUNDED like she was probably hot......anyone know her?

[jspecusa]

wow, sad to hear this.
been friends with jeff even before HT started.
he had the site just to show wiring instruction so jspec had a link
to it then it grew and they started to sell motors/swaps.
I want o get this message across to everyone who think this industy make money.
NO it doesn't, the only money maker are manufacturer of parts and you have to have
unique product and competitive price orelse.....
when we had the shop our overhead was over $5,000 a month, after a few years we realized that 90%+ of our sales are over the internet so what's the point of having a shop anymore?
just like enjuku the smart thing to do is downsize and reduce overhead in this economy.
you'll see in the next 1 to 2 years, the bigger they are the harder they fall.
good luck to you jeff and if you need any help you know how to contact me.
cheers,

sam

[murda-c]

Looks like i probably won't be getting a job at a shop anytime soon.

Well, i work at a country club now tho, so as long as the rich stay rich i should be good.

[ZX88]

so phase 2 bought them. thats weird.

[champagnes13]

i visited him a few weeks ago, he told me he had recently dropped most of his prices below his competitors, and he was able to do it because he had less overhead. the last few years the operation was out of his house and was mainly mail order. I'm sad to see him go; no more being able to drive across the river and get the part i desperately need. good luck jeff. i want to see your 20g sr vert on the road someday.

[Nikeboy355]

Sorry to hear them go...

[BustedS13]

i blame tokyo drift

[Z33dori]

Unfortunately, due to ~80% reduction in sales (probably from a lot of little bitches buying Chinese parts), they are going out of business.

Stop buying cheap Chinese SHIT!

more like their horrible pricing

srry but they had some really high prices ...

[drift freaq]

My friends laughed at me when I told them I payed $1500 in labor for my motor swap (along with install of clutch, intercooler, etc.)....

Have not ever had a SINGLE problem with the car since then....I laugh at people with these posts about their electrical problems and what not.....you get what you pay for.

See now the funny thing about this is that used to be an extremely good deal for a install. I remember installs costing up to 2k. I also remember good clips going for at least 2200-2500 minimum. When a person got a engine and install for 3k-3500. it usually meant they got an older engine or clip. Average install and clips costs usually ran $4500-5500. The likes of shops doing the $2500 engine and install was the beginning of the downfall.
This is a sad time because Heavy Throttle was a community standard. We all relied on Jeff.
Sam Jspec spoke well in his post above. Times are tough and costs are high everyone is downsizing if they expect to stay in business.
To Socal guys I say if you want a quality engine and a quality install and you want it done right and are willing to pay good money to get it right? Then go see Marco at SR20store.com He is by far one of the best in Socal at this time and has been around as long as Heavy Throttle and has the same kind of reputation for good stuff.

G dimensions is another install place that has quality engines and installs support them. Yes you will pay more but you will get more service and support in the end.

People need to stop trying to cheap out on things like this because the companies doing the cheap stuff are going out of business as well. They cannot afford to do the stuff cheap anymore because prices are rising in the import engine and install business.

As far as buying parts go? You will get what you pay for. You can pay a little more and get good quality control or you can go cheap and buy crap thats going to fall apart.

Phase2 has done a good job in trying to bring quality parts to market by marketing the circuit sport line.

Ctune has dumped a lot of the cheaper products and been marketing quaility stuff like Battle Version, Circuit sport and other quality lines. They are doing this to survive and because they are old school as well.

Aspec tries hard as well to bring quality wheels and parts and not garbage knock offs. I bought my Gramlights from them and was quite satisfied. Logan works hard.

Its unfortunate to lose Heavy Throttle, if you don't want to lose other good companies and businesses in this market you need to support them. Don't buy everything on ebay and don't buy Godspeed,ksport etc,,,,,

its on you folks. You want quality work and quality parts then support these people

[FRpilot]

Well, they were the first group of guys to come out with the "heater hose kit" for the SRs, as well as the AIV plug.


forgot that they were the first to come out with the "heater hose kit" which i bought from them a few years ago to perform the surgery.

I dont think there has been anybody in here who never used their SR20 Swap guide. They were some of the OGs who helped make the SR20 swap a mainstream thing. How many people/shop other than them helped the enthusiast by sharing the info they have. They could have easily made money doing swap harnesses instead of laying out the info for everybody to have access to.


yea, i used their guide as well. one of the original pioneers of the community.

[98koukile]

They're the reason I'm 5 speed, sad day but being such a good guy I can see him going on to do bigger and better things. Jeff always called me the second there was a problem with my order and had already arranged every possible other option to be done immediately. Nothing but good things to say about him.

[HalveBlue]

That's too bad.

I bought my first SR swap from HT as well as many other items. Great shop.

Good luck to all those involved. I hope your future fares better.

[Silverbullet]

more like their horrible pricing

srry but they had some really high prices ...


FINALLY! I didn't want to be the first one to say it lol.

sorry for HT. I rocked a HT sticker somewhere on my car for years (04-07)

[chairmnofthboard]

Stop buying cheap Chinese SHIT![/QUOTE]

I completely agree with you.

[[email protected]]

Sucks to see a good shop go. I've purchased a few little things here and there with them in the past for my S14. Most of my friends were customers of theirs as well.Since I have started at MVP almost 2 years ago I have noticed that general sales have decreased for the S chassis in our shop. I have a small group of S chassis customers, 10 or so, that come to me week after week that only buy quality stuff, Full-Race, HKS, Greddy, PE, ect ect. It's those guys that really keep us afloat and their business never goes unnoticed.

Regards,
Robert

[VersionS13]

Another problem is the shops that keep whoring out cheap prices instead of sticking to the map pricing the manufactures put out. All that does is bring this market down.

[SoSideways]

Another problem is the shops that keep whoring out cheap prices instead of sticking to the map pricing the manufactures put out. All that does is bring this market down.

Most of those shops are the ones that are the flyby overnight shops.

And in order to stay in business, some of the bigger shops have no choice but to either price match, or undercut those guys yet some more to get business to stay afloat.

So in short, I do agree with you, with less shady flyby overnight shops pulling shady business practices, the industry as a whole can benefit from it.

[The ROMAN]

Wow, I bought my first and only SR from them four years ago and it is still strong! And I always bought the common stuff from them first as they are the closest shop to me. This is really a shame, I was planning on upgrading next year from them too. So does this mean Phase2 is going to have a warehouse on the east coast?

[shmiddy]

crap... now hows gonna tune my ecu??????????

[s13dan]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!



That SUX! I got my motor from those guys...

[SoSideways]

crap... now hows gonna tune my ecu??????????

Enthalpy, JWT, local guys, or you could always fly S.Shadow up to you.

[OBEEWON]

Jeff is one of the coolest people I've talked to. Hope everything works out for him.

I wonder if everyone on the board bought one thing from him starting now, could we save his biz???

[SoSideways]

Jeff is one of the coolest people I've talked to. Hope everything works out for him.

I wonder if everyone on the board bought one thing from him starting now, could we save his biz???

Probably too little too late.

[dori_sil8t]

+1

HT was the OG's of the sr swaps, I think my first sr swap was using their online guide, but they are pretty much just a store and when the prices are cheaper somewhere else, well... Plus a lot of noobs aren't going to know about you if your not advertising.


same here i still have the print out in a folder somewhere..
got a starter from them way back. great guys jeff helpd me with my sr and i havent even bought anything from them yet

[ecuastyle84]

really disappointed to see them go...jeff is a awesome dude...been buying from them ever since i did my sr swap...sucks that it has to end this way:(

[silnismo]

Sucks being on the east coast.

Heavy throttle was my major suppier of half the parts on my car, took a day to get my stuff from them.

All the east got is Enjuku and thats down south, *sigh*

[SoSideways]

Sucks being on the east coast.

Heavy throttle was my major suppier of half the parts on my car, took a day to get my stuff from them.

All the east got is Enjuku and thats down south, *sigh*

MA Motorsports is up there in the North East....

And I think Rav Spec as well.

Both are Zilvia advertisers.

[bryce with a y]

WOW.

this is fucked news. Heavy Throttle was/is bomb.

they just never changed with the times. look at there site and the cars on it... its like Nico only worse...

[SuicidnS13]

Well guys alot of this is due to our failing economoy. Its sad to know that alot of auto-accessory companies are hurting right now. I mean huge auto companies are hurting as well. SEMA has gotten smaller and smaller every year Ive noticed the past 5 years. Knock of companies and the likes are not the main problem here guys. We are doing just as much an injustice to this country as the chinese is doing to our so called japanese branded parts simply by driving and building imported vehicles. So seriously the next time you are mad about being laid off or getting fired or your business going under, look in your closet, your kitchen and driveway. Count the number of foreign built items you own. Those were american jobs hanging there or parked there.

And to those who hated on Fast and the Furious, those movies are the free marketing and fuel for which these resale companies even survive. So many new kids and people were introduced into the car scene buy these movies. More media, more hype = more fans = more buisiness. I honestly miss the old days of imports vs. domestics on the streets.

I hope the best for Heavy Throttle and I hope he makes a come back once the economy turns around. Or at the least I hope he remains in the car scene.

[!Zar!]

It's because of the taliban.

[A Spec Products]

I don't think Phase 2 "bought" Heavy Throttle

I believe they just own the DOMAINS now

Not the business itself

[aNskY]

This really sucks.... Jeff is about 10 minutes from me, and has helped me out countless times, usually for little or no money... he really is a good guy and was awesome to have him so close...

btw guys HT hasnt been doing labor for a WHILE, jeff sold the shop and was pretty much slingin parts out of his garage. the shop was taken over for a bit by another 240 enthusiast and he did what he could to try and make it work, but unfortunately they are gone too.

[aNskY]

Sucks being on the east coast.

Heavy throttle was my major suppier of half the parts on my car, took a day to get my stuff from them.

All the east got is Enjuku and thats down south, *sigh*



240sxmotoring is in CT. Ive had good experiences with them.

[mav1178]

A couple of points:

- This has nothing to do with cheap China products, knockoffs, etc. Stop making the same arguments as others did in the long thread about Greddy's bankruptcy.

- Phase 2 is taking over Heavy Throttle's site, not Heavy Throttle as a company.

- The industry is constantly changing; to make assumptions about the industry is very misleading and doesn't contribute. I understand this is just a general discussion, but some of the information thrown out there is simply untrue and adds confusion to a situation which requires more clarity, than anything else.

- Time will sort this out.



BTW I am not posting in any official capacity. Just wanted to clarify some stuff.

-alex

[aNskY]

A couple of points:

- This has nothing to do with cheap China products, knockoffs, etc. Stop making the same arguments as others did in the long thread about Greddy's bankruptcy.



Agreed, i talked to jeff a few weeks ago and he told me he was only selling 1 swap a month, opposed to the ~15-20 he used to do. There are no chinese knock-off SR20's. Hard to survive when your bread and butter is all but dissapeared.

[SimpleS14]

wow...I remember HT being around when I just got my 240 (yr 2001). It's sad to see them go :[

[SuicidnS13]

Agreed, i talked to jeff a few weeks ago and he told me he was only selling 1 swap a month, opposed to the ~15-20 he used to do. There are no chinese knock-off SR20's. Hard to survive when your bread and butter is all but dissapeared.

Yup, our economy has crashed in so many states its not even funny. People across the country have losts hundreds of thousands of dollars in their home investments, not to mention jobs as work has been outsourced to foreign countries. So seriously guys support our economy. We seriously need to quit sending money out to other countries. I mean thousands of people on Zilvia knock cheap wheels yet they buy used Japanese wheels. Atleast the cheap China wheel is putting food on many a persons plate by keeping them employed where the used (brand name JDM) wheel does nothing but put food back on one persons plate by returning a partial investment. Its times like this that has seriously made me rethink alot of things especially my choice of cars lately.

[LA_phantom_240]

My job is going nowhere any time soon. True, I don't make tons of money, but the oilfield will ALWAYS have work to be done.

I wonder why it is that they stopped selling so many swaps? Maybe cause everyone and their grandmother had an SR, so now the market is flooded with them? I dunno. I never had an SR.

[nrg]

classic. i remember a friend buying his first s13 front clip from them back in 2001. we learned how to wire sr20 from their site.

[nisans13turbo]

Well I know this because I ordered a Greddy IM from them, and they were backordered, and in the process (Jeff doesn't have it yet), this all happened.

I canceled my order, and it looks like the only way I can get my money back is to take it up with my bank/credit card.

Sucks for both parties involved.

HT is awesome, Jeffed help me out alot with installs and tech. shit etc....... Kinda sucks how they dont have there parts in stock......

They sure will be miss, best service %100 and shiat I live in MN, shit was all over the phone :love:

[DrIvEsldEwAyS]

i have called jeff many times when i was stumped on a problem or needed something fast. he ALWAYS had an answer or what i needed. 100% of my parts came from them. goodluck to him and whatever he tackles next!

[turbocarslut]

The business traffic was sold to Phase2...thats cool- good people. I hope they keep up with the dissemination of FREE info and how 2 guides. I would of never completed my swap without the info on their site. VERY VERY SAD DAY!

[SoSideways]

The business was sold to Phase2...thats cool. I hope they keep up with the dissemination of FREE info and how 2 guides. I would of never completed my swap without the info on their site. VERY VERY SAD DAY!

Dude, it was mentioned on this page alone twice, that Phase2 bought the DOMAIN for the site.

Not the business.

[turbocarslut]

I corrected myself 1min later and said "business traffic"

What are you the police?

[SoSideways]

I corrected myself 1min later and said "business traffic"

What are you the police?

No, I'm not the police.

But at the same time, people shouldn't be subjected to false information, and we should help keep the information as clean/true as possible.

Thanks for correcting your last post.

[ryguy]

I got my first 240 relatively late, around 2005. I always bought parts from Enjuku because of their advertising, they were always the first company I thought of. I never really saw any advertising from heavy throttle, I didnt know they were out there at the time.

[1QUICK4]

Funny thing about heavy throttle is my buddy bought alot of stuff from there, took forever to get the stuff. One of the things was a greddy suction kit. And it was missing the air filter when it showed up. He called them and they said he'd have to buy the air filter, then he bitched some more and they said ok you pay for shipping. Finally they looked up how much money he had spent there the last month and just sent him the filter. They screwed up a few other things in his order also. Sent the wrong cams for instance.

Maybe that's why they went out of business. Missing parts in a kit, not wanting to ship out something that was their mistake at their own cost.

[sillyvia13]

Heavy Throttle and Jeff...

CHANGED MY ENTIRE LIFE!!
Thanks Jeff, gone but not forgotten!

He walked me through my ENTIRE swap 400 years ago!
I call him 10 times a day!
Bless you Jeff....
Best wishes !

[aNskY]

Funny thing about heavy throttle is my buddy bought alot of stuff from there, took forever to get the stuff. One of the things was a greddy suction kit. And it was missing the air filter when it showed up. He called them and they said he'd have to buy the air filter, then he bitched some more and they said ok you pay for shipping. Finally they looked up how much money he had spent there the last month and just sent him the filter. They screwed up a few other things in his order also. Sent the wrong cams for instance.

Maybe that's why they went out of business. Missing parts in a kit, not wanting to ship out something that was their mistake at their own cost.

something like a greddy suction kit, or cams, would probably have been drop-shipped, so technically it was not jeff's fault. if you ordered some oem stuff through him or actually asked if it was in stock, you would have it asap. i would think he would have been more willing to help, he seriously was always trying to help everyone i know... what other place could you call and get detailed technical advice for free?

[1QUICK4]

something like a greddy suction kit, or cams, would probably have been drop-shipped, so technically it was not jeff's fault. if you ordered some oem stuff through him or actually asked if it was in stock, you would have it asap. i would think he would have been more willing to help, he seriously was always trying to help everyone i know... what other place could you call and get detailed technical advice for free?

ok, and calling and ordering cams when you want 264's and they send you 272's. i suppose that was my friends fault right?

[jspaeth]

This thread is not supposed to be about slamming Jeff or Heavy Throttle.

It was simply an announcement..........I have found that on some stuff, sometimes Jeff can take a while or whatever, but on other stuff he is ON TOP OF SHIT!

One time, I had a coilpack go out like 3 months after I got my SR from him, and he had a new one at my door by the next day for free!

[mRclARK1]

ok, and calling and ordering cams when you want 264's and they send you 272's. i suppose that was my friends fault right?

Doesn't matter how good a business is, they'll make mistakes. Sending the wrong cams is just an example. Doesn't make them a bad company to deal with. More importantly I'd never heard a story once of them ripping someone off, and many picky buyers on this forum will back them up.

Filter probably was drop shipped and there was a miscommunication between them and your friend. It's happened to myself before. It's just natural to assume who you made the purchase from directly must be responsible for any foul ups.

[aNskY]

ok, and calling and ordering cams when you want 264's and they send you 272's. i suppose that was my friends fault right?


i was saying it was more than likely the suppliers fault... either way it's surprising.

[1QUICK4]

i was saying it was more than likely the suppliers fault... either way it's surprising.


Ok. Even if it is the suppliers fault, which it was, you don't order from the supplier, they do and it gets shipped to you. now if something was messed up they should call and find out right? well right away they said they couldn't do anything about it.

[drifter_for_life06]

first SR s13 i ever rode in back in 02-03 had a front clip from them, was a good experience, that sucks

[Rusker]

Sad to hear, great shop.

[Corbic]

Agreed, i talked to jeff a few weeks ago and he told me he was only selling 1 swap a month, opposed to the ~15-20 he used to do. There are no chinese knock-off SR20's. Hard to survive when your bread and butter is all but dissapeared.

And that too was one of the problems, they where a one trick pony.

You can also blame the rise of the KA-T as well, and the success of marketing
"how easy an SR swap is". Now, lots of people are doing it at home, buying clips from any dozen of other reputable engine sellers, many of which where cheaper.