240sx vs 300zx drift

[cIutchkick]

just curious as to how a 300zx tt holds up for drifting. i dont ever seen any1 drifting them but i was just wondering what every1 says about them and how they compare to the 240

[ericcastro]

no comparison, next thread.

[s13 @ fullboost]

the way the 300zx is built is a little off for drifting that car is a road racing car the way the weight and power is distributed is not very efficient for the sport of drifting and thats one of the reasons you don't see them out there a whole lot.

[projectRDM]

Both cars are excellent on a road course. Why you'd want to dumb either one of them down and drift them is beyond me. But hey, some people like to eat penis too, I'm not judging.

[SuicidnS13]

Both cars are excellent on a road course. Why you'd want to dumb either one of them down and drift them is beyond me. But hey, some people like to eat penis too, I'm not judging.

LOL---- nice

[((sr)) kelly]

the 300zx gets alot of understeer... heavy v30dett in a heavy car = you arent turning

i think the only way you could drift one is to have a reallllllly slow approach and power through the turn..no long bombs

[LongGrain]

the 300zx gets alot of understeer... heavy v30dett in a heavy car = you arent turning

i think the only way you could drift one is to have a reallllllly slow approach and power through the turn..no long bombs

i kinda think a z would do BETTER at higher speed sweepers and such, just have to ebrake to prevent that early understeer.

i see the car having trouble in tighter, more technical situations with more of a tendency to grip because of the weight.

just me though.

[MellowYellow]

Both cars are excellent on a road course. Why you'd want to dumb either one of them down and drift them is beyond me. But hey, some people like to eat penis too, I'm not judging.

Thankyou for being one of the few who thinks the way i do.

The reason you dont Zs drift a lot is because the car is more expensive in every aspect. And that i am glad for, leave the supercars for racing like they were meant to be, not silly drifting.

[mRclARK1]

There are Z32's drifting. There was a thread on this (more of a general comparison, not drift specific) not long ago.

[LongGrain]

300zx....supercar?

i dont think so..

[Katsumbhong]

I've seen teams in Mainland Japan run Z32 TT at a few drift events but they are heavy bitches. Have you ever looked underneath the hood of a Z32? Cramped as hell to work on. A guy I know had to replace a few coolant and heater hoses from his VG and had to yank the whole engine out to do it.

You can run a Z32, but it's hard as hell to work on... and i'd gut that bitch... engine bay and body.

[UNISA JECS]

both cars are excellent on a road course. Why you'd want to dumb either one of them down and drift them is beyond me. But hey, some people like to eat penis too, i'm not judging.

word>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[LA_phantom_240]

Z32 is a pain in the ass. End of story.

[Leo-kun]

Hmmm, heavy car, not bulit for drifitng, sounds a lot like a Verossa or Chaser. If you can drift a Verossa or Chaser, then you can do the same with a Z32. You would obviously have to strip the interior and it would be better to take that VQ30 out and put in a lighter engine like a SR20.

Some dude in Drift Tengoku was drifting a toyota crown, which is heavy as fuck, so you can definately drift a Z32.

[LA_phantom_240]

Hmmm, heavy car, not bulit for drifitng, sounds a lot like a Verossa or Chaser. If you can drift a Verossa or Chaser, then you can do the same with a Z32. You would obviously have to strip the interior and it would be better to take that VQ30 out and put in a lighter engine like a SR20.

Some dude in Drift Tengoku was drifting a toyota crown, which is heavy as fuck, so you can definately drift a Z32.

You can drift a Lincoln Continental if you really feel like it... but it doesn't make it a good idea.

[s13 @ fullboost]

You can drift a Lincoln Continental if you really feel like it... but it doesn't make it a good idea.
haha drifting a continental would be drifting a boat haha =]

[aoiken3]

wat la phantom said. u can basically drift anything w/ front n rear wheels but that doesnt make it a good idea. look up the ppl that attempt drifting buses n trucks n u'll c wat happens. as for the purpose of the thread, it just makes sense to drift lighter cars.

[DreEzed]

YouTube - 300zx Drift (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44DEsy19EH0)
Its got an S15 SR20 and wasn't meant for drifting more for circuit.

[projectRDM]

You can drift a Lincoln Continental if you really feel like it... but it doesn't make it a good idea.

Some fool came out to an autocross one year in a Buick Roadmaster wagon. With like 10 people in it. I think they were just bored. He didn't do very well for some reason.

[((sr)) kelly]

i kinda think a z would do BETTER at higher speed sweepers and such, just have to ebrake to prevent that early understeer.

i see the car having trouble in tighter, more technical situations with more of a tendency to grip because of the weight.

just me though.


yeh i agree about the sweeper.. but im talking about a long bomb in from a straight to like a hair pin... initiating the drift earllllllly

[racepar1]

Both cars are excellent on a road course. Why you'd want to dumb either one of them down and drift them is beyond me. But hey, some people like to eat penis too, I'm not judging.

BWWWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Uber imaginary rep for that one! :bigok:

As for the OP's question the s-13 would be much better. The s-13 is lighter and more tossable than the 300zx. The z is pig heavy and would be much harder to control.

[LA_phantom_240]

haha drifting a continental would be drifting a boat haha =]

I drifted our 93 Lincoln Town Car in the rain once. It was kinda cool getting sideways in the big fuckin land barge.

Some fool came out to an autocross one year in a Buick Roadmaster wagon. With like 10 people in it. I think they were just bored. He didn't do very well for some reason.

:snoop:

[articdragon192]

I absolutely love the misinformation in this thread. Lemme get it straight for you guys.
The US TT is crappy for drifting because of one thing... it's short wheelbase. The Japanese run the 2+2 in most of their motor sports. The extra 8.5 inches help stabilize the car. And about it being heavy, all that can be ripped out. I know a guy here in socal actually has brought his car down to 2750. And he still has the doorpanel and the stock dash still in place.

The Z32 is just a good a drift machine as the 240. The front suspension is great. No gay McPherson strut. The 2+2 is actually 51/49 weight distribution. It's not front heavy at all. Mine drifted just fine. Just had to figure out had to do the switchback, but it held it's own. Not bad for it's first drift event on a course.

And the reason the Z32 isn't drifted much is price of parts and the fact that the owners of Z32 don't like drifting. And with that I leave you some stuff I collected that inspire my Z32.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ArticDragon192/ffa0ae0e.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ArticDragon192/ph_rd08_no034b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ArticDragon192/phrd08no003bmy1.jpg
http://www.wreckedmagazine.com/gallery/albums/D1Fuji2008/normal_IMG_5835.jpg
http://www.wreckedmagazine.com/gallery/albums/D1Fuji2008/normal_IMG_5876.jpg
http://www.wreckedmagazine.com/gallery/albums/D1Fuji2008/normal_IMG_5913.jpg


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ArticDragon192/DSCF0027_1.jpg
Same car in action.
YouTube - 300ZX Twin Turbo: Red 3Z Drift Car In Japan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdHTTXXljvE)

And my car
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/ArticDragon192/My%20Fairlady/000796.jpg

[ericcastro]

^
Yeah,
After all the stupid post I was gonna say it was a suspension/wheelbase issue fron everyone I know that has tried to drift them. Its just getting used to a different car.

240's are still the easiest car to drift IMO.
And I can drift anything that anyone brings to the track. (so far :) )

And maybe I like drifting over racing, so thats why I made my 240 into a drift machine. If I wanted to be competitive in road racing and try and go somewhere I would own a miata.

BTW, i took that last pic ;)

[articdragon192]

^
Yeah,
After all the stupid post I was gonna say it was a suspension/wheelbase issue fron everyone I know that has tried to drift them. Its just getting used to a different car.

240's are still the easiest car to drift IMO.
And I can drift anything that anyone brings to the track. (so far :) )

And maybe I like drifting over racing, so thats why I made my 240 into a drift machine. If I wanted to be competitive in road racing and try and go somewhere I would own a miata.

BTW, i took that last pic ;)

Yes, it is a different car, mostly because of the powerband. It's a lot of midrange compared to other 4 banger set ups. The weight really isn't that bad either.
If a Skyline can drift, so can a Z32. The suspension is nearly identical. And yes, Eric took that pic of my car. And it's awesome.

[gippy87]

I had a 300zx before i picked up my 240 and in my expierence stock for stock the 300zx could drift better because of the vlsd but with the correct diff the 240 was a way better drifter. the 300zx always felt like something was about to break and it had a ton of body roll. I imagine with the right suspension work it could have been a much nicer drift car
Wasnt as fast but i miss how much better looking it was then my 240 :( lol
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/gippy87/IMAGE_089.jpg