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LongLostLatz
09-25-2008, 05:46 PM
So im looking to pick up either a 240z or possibly a 260z either way im looking to swap the motor out in favor of something more modern. Ive been browsing through the forums and checked out BLU808's 260 with the RB26. Im looking to daily drive the car and occasionally track it on weekends so im wondering if the RB is really needed. Has anyone put an SR into an S30 or is it even worth doing? I mean a mildly built SR in a car as light as an S30 seems like it would be pretty quick. Lets get some feedback.

-Thanks

SinisterSntra91
09-25-2008, 05:51 PM
Vq! Ftmfw!

LongLostLatz
09-25-2008, 05:54 PM
I mean a VQ seems like it would be a bigger headache because of all the electrical components. Plus the cost for a motor and trans is pretty high.

dmragecm
09-25-2008, 05:56 PM
HybridZ (http://www.hybridz.org)

LongLostLatz
09-25-2008, 06:15 PM
Damn that site saved the day thanks man.

InlineS13
09-25-2008, 07:06 PM
1JZ or bust

s13dan
09-25-2008, 07:09 PM
LOL has anyone put a SR in an S30...... You could do what all the dumbass rednecks in Missouri do and drop a 350 in it and go drag racing.

atom
09-25-2008, 07:11 PM
S30's should have a straight 6.

S13shaka
09-25-2008, 07:15 PM
holy shit plz use your brain to search, a lil deductive reasoning goes a long way and its obvious you're not even ready to do anything engine swap related bc your knowledge on it is about 0.

ps its 2008, you think you're the first person to consider doing an engine swap in a Z?

xplicit240
09-25-2008, 07:19 PM
holy shit plz use your brain to search, a lil deductive reasoning goes a long way and its obvious you're not even ready to do anything engine swap related bc your knowledge on it is about 0.

ps its 2008, you think you're the first person to consider doing an engine swap in a Z?

dude relax. if you have negative info then dont post.

id say go with an ls1, sr20 r the rb set up. theres plenty of support for those motor swaps in these chassis already. hell go KA-T while your at it.

look into vildini motorsports (sr20), mckinney motorsports (rb and sr)

but if you can spend the money then vq that bitch up. personally i would get an l28 build it NA with ITB and and/or carbs. and keep it original.

anyways good luck and if you decide on a build please post here. =)

Nikeboy355
09-25-2008, 07:21 PM
If you want to save money I say go with a KA motor but I'd rather have a VQ or an Infiniti V8 in there...

96Turbo
09-25-2008, 07:21 PM
you have a LOT of options with an S30. That bay is big enough for most anything you can think of. I've already got an RB....so i'd put an SR in it

mrmephistopheles
09-25-2008, 07:36 PM
holy shit plz use your brain to search, a lil deductive reasoning goes a long way and its obvious you're not even ready to do anything engine swap related bc your knowledge on it is about 0.

ps its 2008, you think you're the first person to consider doing an engine swap in a Z?

Shut it, you. :squint:

silviaguy240
09-25-2008, 07:53 PM
L28ET, they're stupid cheap to build, plenty of abundant parts and make pretty good power with minimal parts. most everyone hates on em because they're old techonolgy, but shit 2300-2400lb Z's dont need much to make them fast. a well set up carb'd motor will cost twice as much as a L28ET and is way more of a headache if you dont know what you're doing really. SR or mild KA-t would be good. but for a DD, a RB is pretty much overkill on a Z. but on another note, 4 cylinders in a Z just look stupid theres like a million miles between the rad support and the motor.

Warning
09-25-2008, 08:51 PM
S30z.. Lots of options. Really personal preference, and maybe your wallets preference :P
Not in any real order:
V8s - Yeah, any of them pretty much fit, I found a 440 big block in one once. haha... Most should fit pretty easily. Check out Hybrid Z.
LS1 - While I said V8 already this one needs a spot of its own... Good motor, can get good MPG and power. (People claim high 20s and even low 30s all the time, especially in newer cars, in a lighter Z I see no reason to get 30+ If you drive normally.) I'd say its worth it IMO.
RB Series - Great motors, easy to make power, fun.
SR20DET - Common, easier to get parts for then a RB and such...
KA24DE - Cheap, KA-Ts pretty good, easy to get parts for, etc.
Last 3 aren't to different from choosing into a 240 IMO...
L28 - Good motors, classic, fits the era better if your into that, could do N/A or get a L28ET out of a 280ZX, prolly be able to get a donor car for like $500 (Then again I'm on the other side of the country, so it could be a totally different story in Cali.)

You honestly don't need alot of power to have a quick Z, I'd go with a L28ET... Or a LS1. And if you want a legal daily in Cali a SR20s out of the question anyway?

Deftec
09-25-2008, 09:03 PM
1JZ or bust


2jz!!!!!:D

SexPanda
09-25-2008, 09:06 PM
LOL has anyone put a SR in an S30...... You could do what all the dumbass rednecks in Missouri do and drop a 350 in it and go drag racing.

Im going to let that fly because you live in springfield... And I know who your talking about too :coolugh:

LongLostLatz
09-25-2008, 09:17 PM
First of all let me say thanks for all the feedback. Ive been looking around on Hybrid Z and to me it seems like the weight distribution will be better with the sr, sure theres some space between the rad support and motor but that just gives me some space for a nice v-mount setup:snoop:. Id rather the car handle like its on rails than just be really sweet because the engine bay is stuffed full of motor. The SR will put down more than enough power with some bolt ons. I emailed the guys from vildini to see what kinda labor costs they are looking at for a swap.

And a sweet S30 photo just because....
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y38/hoobuttacrew/240ZOMFG.jpg
-LLL

Flicktitty
09-25-2008, 09:21 PM
Hybridz /thread

cdlong
09-26-2008, 12:02 AM
And if you want a legal daily in Cali a SR20s out of the question anyway?

if it's old enough, you can put whatever the hell you want in it, no more emissions before '75 or something.

my own personal preference... ITB RB25DE or RB30(D)E

gregfarz78
09-26-2008, 06:08 AM
I will own a 240/60z someday, personally I'd swap a v8 in maybe a LSx or 350 SBC. VQ swap would be pretty sweet too but the wiring is a bit difficult. That car needs something better than a SR though

OBEEWON
09-26-2008, 07:49 AM
Put a Beams motor in that slop.

L28ET is a sick motor. Stroke that slop.

Or a L31DETT (sectioned KA heads)

xplicit240
09-26-2008, 08:21 AM
^^^^ ohhhh yeahh. i saw that. that guy has some sick engineering skills.

Flicktitty
09-26-2008, 08:25 AM
2JZ-GTE thats the best bang for the buck IMO.

LongLostLatz
09-26-2008, 10:40 AM
I was looking on youtube and there is some guy named amir with a 500hp sr in a 240z, the car is animal. Im thinking that just because of parts availability and aftermarket support the sr will be a better bang for my buck. An LS1 with trans will run about 5 grand plus whatever custom fab is needed. you can do alot to an sr with an extra 3 grand.

What would be the best things to pick up to raise the power output of the motor?
Frount mount intercooler, greddy intake plenum, full exhast, cam gears, maybe tomei exhaust manifold.

Thanks for all the feedback

-LLL

smelly240
09-26-2008, 11:37 AM
Beams motor is my answer for everything - make up ur own dumb thing to say OB! :P

seriously tho beams 3s = neato.

trsilvias13
09-26-2008, 11:51 AM
I said rotary or a lsx.

drift freaq
09-26-2008, 12:16 PM
Ok here is the deal. As much as I like VQ's I think its waste to even think of putting one in a S30 chassis. Everything previous to a early 280Z is smog free. Basically means you can drop any easy to wire engine in.
The list is not small

Stay pure a build a L24 or L26
Put in a L28, ewwwww gag me garbage engine! It does not rev without lots of money put into parts, to make it rev. If you even think of going with the L28 engine save the extra money you will spend on the engine and drop some kind of RB.

RB20DET
RB25DET
RB26DETT
RB25DE

If you really are on the light and nimble kick then....

SR20DET
KA24DET (though I would avoid this lol)

If you just want stupid power and torque that will twist the chassis all to hell without a cage?
Several different types of V8's

All in all I feel the car looks right with a inline six. I was strongly against a SR because of that. I have gained a little interest in the SR with a V mount intercooler setup because of the whole behind the front wheels, re-balance the weight, nimbleness thing.

In the end I have had experience with V8 Z's my friend in San Jose used to build them back in the day and they were just fucking crazy. I personally feel its more engine than the car needs.
I also have a friend who has a RB25DET with cams and upgraded turbo (dynoed at 400whp) and is shooting for 500whp. I think he is nuts.
Like other people have said these cars are light. They don't need much beyond 300whp to go like rocket ships. A stock RB26DETT will just literally kick ass at stock boost with nothing more done. Though it could be heavy. A stock RB25DET boosted up with just a slightly larger turbo would turn out 300whp.
Even a setup RB20DET would be respectable.
My friend is HP crazy and obsessed and wants to blow off everything on the road. LOL

Seriously in the end you have to make the decision. Honestly I may not agree with it. Other people might.
You post here and your going to get our opinions, which you did ask for. Some you will like, some you won't.
Make the decision based on what you want regardless of what the others say or think. Your the one that will have to live it with it not us. LOL

DevilZ
09-26-2008, 12:29 PM
You already have a good motor in mind SR are like whore. they are passed around in S30, 510, celica, sunny, and any old school japanese car. there light and capable of high HP. now all you got to do is research and make it happen.

Koopa Troopa
09-26-2008, 01:00 PM
F20c!!!!!!!!!!!

0100
09-29-2008, 12:29 AM
Never seen that done before on a s30.

Saw one in an ae86 which was pretty rad.

s13dan
09-29-2008, 12:37 AM
L sereis or RB..