Best touge car for 50k

[trad1987]

What would you get if you had 50k to blow for a car and mods on making a purpose built touge car. This isnt me planning for anything, just fun dreaming.

-JDM 2000 STI
- Fully gutted, no ac or heating
- lightweight battery (braille)
- Cusco rollcage and suspension parts
- full exhaust and intake
- ARC fmic, oil cooler, diff cooler, clutch cooler, radiator, hood panel
- stage 3 clutch
- super light flywheel
- carbon fiber driveshaft
- full carbon fiber body
- welded chassis
- Tein coilovers
- Takata 5 point harness
- Bride Brix seat

[ESmorz]

I would build a car like in death race so I could demolish your house.

[YoungGun]

Whatever Acura NSX 50k could buy me.

[brndck]

What would you get if you had 50k to blow for a car and mods on making a purpose built touge car. This isnt me planning for anything, just fun dreaming.

-JDM 2000 STI
- full carbon fiber body
- welded chassis
u think youre gonna get all that for under 50k? good luck.

i'd get something like this.
lotus super 7
or that ariel atom thingy.
(i don't know what they cost, nor do i care.)

[chibo]

A GSXR600 powered shifterkart.

[Brian]

NISSAN SKYLINE GTR R34 V Spec 2 Nur
the jdm version too.

[trad1987]

NISSAN SKYLINE GTR R34 V Spec 2 Nur
the jdm version too.

Rode in one a month or so ago. All that they are cracked up to be .... completely. Coolest thing ever.

[DOOK]

Evo 9 with the extra 25k dumped into mods...

[drift freaq]

I would save a little while longer a just buy a new R35 GTR

[Brian]

Rode in one a month or so ago. All that they are cracked up to be .... completely. Coolest thing ever.

The jdm version or the other one?

[DMaxUSA]

Lotus Elise!!!

[all show no go]

A Lotus Exige..
Should be good enough..
I dont care if its in that price range but its a pretty well balanced car to begin with.

[SexPanda]

1995 M3
LS2 engine, t56 transmission.
Full Bilstein coilovers
Stitched chassis,
Replace every nut, bolt and screw with titanium
gutted interior,
Custom 10 pt. rollcage
bride zeta III seats,
5 pt. harnesses
custom intake,
custom exhaust,
cam,
custom carbon fiber driveshaft,
AC Schnitzer front bumper, sideskirts, M3 rear bumper,
high-capacity diff (e36 M3),
high capacity radiator,
carbon fiber hood, trunk, fenders(painted),
Work Meister wheels
Nitto 555's

And a cooler for every fluid I can add a cooler to.

[S13Boosts]

Evo 7 ohwee.. AWD....

[cc4usmc]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g11/cc4usmc3/shifter_kart.jpg

Then I'd blow the rest on hookers.

[A Spec Products]

Yeah dude Elise I think

And you'd have money left over

[rb25_s13*CHUKI]

Mitsubishi lancer evolution 3... Nuff said It will own all... Or a CRG Shifter kart or maybe just a tag motor

Evo 9 motor swap. evo green turbo. 780cc injectors tuned on meth.
Jic Titanium exhaust
9lb flywheel
1 piece alum drive shaft
2-way lsd's
Hks coilovers
Sway bars
Stitch welded chassis
Anthony's custom weight reduction
Gram light time attack style 18x10 front and rear - 265 hoosier R compound all around

[dirtdiggler666]

im with dook on this one or lotus exige s

[trsilvias13]

A $5000 240sx and $45k invested toward a education to get a better job so I can afford a helicopter.

[drift freaq]

Yeah dude Elise I think

And you'd have money left over

Ya I would actually say this would be badass, or a Exige.

[DreamN]

Geo metro. 3 banger :naughty:

[94cc0rd]

lol^^^ helicopter ftw

[HyperTek]

a supercharged boxster s
http://i36.tinypic.com/2m2fm6g.jpg
then go meet up some chicks at a hollywood club after
and not get pulled over for stereotypical illegal racer mods

*i like boxsters.. they look better then the 996 of same era*

[chibo]

A $5000 240sx and $45k invested toward a education to get a better job so I can afford a helicopter.

This man knows where it's at :bigok:

[iwishiwas-all*]

used exige s
done done

[yokotas13]

ek Type R and a bunch o parts

[drift freaq]

ek Type R and a bunch o parts

LOL Closet Honda Fanboy eh Grant?

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

a supercharged boxster s
http://i36.tinypic.com/2m2fm6g.jpg
then go meet up some chicks at a hollywood club after
and not get pulled over for stereotypical illegal racer mods

*i like boxsters.. they look better then the 996 of same era*
yyyyyyeeeeeesssssss sir. That or a 85 with a 4g63. 10k for the car, motor and 40 grand for what you will.

[BustedS13]

a stock c5 z06 and $25,000 in the pocket is cooler than anything mentioned in this thread
except the go kart

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

LOL Closet Honda Fanboy eh Grant?
$500 for the car and $49,500 for parts. Can't lose unless you rice it out, which we know will happen.

[PF ALL DAY]

Unmolested 2000 Miata (Stock Silver)
Full Cage
Ohlins DFV Coils
Fully Upgraded Footwork
Black TE-37's wrapped in Falken R compounds
MazdaSpeed 2-Way
Twin Recaro Seats
Supercharged by JR

and still have cash left over to do it all over again...

[NismoB13]

I'd also have to say a Lotus exige S. A car that comes stock with R compound tires must mean business.

[BlckBeautyVTEC]

Subaru Impreza 22B

http://www.22b.com/media/cardriver_head.jpg

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

Unmolested 2000 Miata (Stock Silver)
Full Cage
Ohlins DFV Coils
Fully Upgraded Footwork
Black TE-37's wrapped in Falken R compounds
MazdaSpeed 2-Way
Twin Recaro Seats
Supercharged by JR

and still have cash left over to do it all over again...
MONSTER MIATA!!! v8 it!

I would probably do this too cuz it will get me bitches
SD Miata Italia Body Conversion Kit (http://www.gomiata.com/sdmiatitbodc.html)

[Agamemnon]

http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/resources/2007/10/ariel_atom_3.jpg

[mangoes]

an FD built by RE Amemiya..... probably way over 50k tho -_-

http://www.livesockets.com/wallpaper/jgtc0004.jpg

[ILoveMyRHS13]

Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution V (In white, of course.) (Ultimate dream car)
7 Point cage, welded of course. None of that bolt-in bullshit. (Painted lime green)
Aragosta coilovers.
Staggered CE28Ns in bronze. 17x9.5 +25 in the front and 18x10.5 +10 in the back; wrapped in some Advan Neovas.
Buddy club bucket seat.
Get a Project Mu big brake kit for the front and get Evo IX rear brakes.
Set the torque transfer to 40/60 front/back.
Put the rest of the money into suspension and chassis stiffening.

[smellslikecurry]

an american quarter horse

[OKR_240SX]

K1 attack

http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc136/CanadianCinephile/K_1_attack_0001.jpg

idk if I'd use it for touge... i just want one

[blueshark123]

lotus exige then drop in a k20 or k24 with a supercharger or small turbo kit

[S14DB]

Isn't this a series on Best Motoring?


I would get a used Pikes Peak race car.

[silviaguy240]

*i like boxsters.. they look better then the 996 of same era*

pics of your vag plz

[flip3d]

S2K.

Cammed, ITBs, 4-1 Header, No cats, Exhaust. For suspension... Cusco Everything.

[imnotmatt1189]

pics of your vag plz

BAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

+ imaginary rep!!!!

[Koopa Troopa]

Race base EK9 with 10k put into it. Then I'd pocket what was left over.

[swang]

u think youre gonna get all that for under 50k? good luck.

i'd get something like this.
lotus super 7
or that ariel atom thingy.
(i don't know what they cost, nor do i care.)

ariel atom FOR THE WIN :boink:
vehicle//gokart
the 08 ariel atoms got k20s
best part its street legal!
but just food for thought the cost of the new ones is 65k.
maybe the older ones are cheaper. :duh:

http://mike-mcgrath.files.wordpress.com/2007/02/ariel-atom.gif

[JRas]

EVO or STi

[ESmorz]

AMC Gremlin

-With an LS7
-Centerlines with Janet Jacksons Titty on them if that one guy in the chat section gets his shit together
-After that, I don't give a fuck... Chassis stiffening and some sort of jimmy rigged suspension
-Vinyl of me slaying a dragon on the sides

[shishcabobers]

All you guys are doing it wrong....

Suzuki Cappuccino


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1376/1473929693_fa8b463781.jpg?v=0
http://www.terra2imports.ca/ab-images/121374948887829.jpg

and the usual suspension, turbo, blah blah blah.

[JeremyR]

a delorean.

[0100]

Cool thread.

What about the good old Free s13 shell + $50k.

Best of everything:

Gutted, stitched, and caged
LSx monster built NA engine
Sequential Dog Box
Custom length CF driveshaft
Quaife
3 way Penske's
Megan suspension arms :keke:
Endless Forged monoblock 6 calipers
TE37's
some big r888 or NT01's
Voltex rear wing
Koguchi overfenders

Something like this with a monster LSx inside.


http://www.tougehero.com/Image21.jpg

[markyboi]

i read the title and thought to myself

"fucking fanboy"

[0100]

i read the title and thought to myself

"so many cool cars could be built to be fast with $50k"

[keistyle]

yea i agree, geo metro with 20b rew swap.:2f2f:
Geo metro. 3 banger :naughty:

[Koopa Troopa]

All you guys are doing it wrong....

Suzuki Cappuccino

and the usual suspension, turbo, blah blah blah.


Too bad my stock EG6 beats the piss out of those. Not that I'm bragging as that's like bragging about beating up 3rd graders when you're in Jr High.

[ayuaddict]

cappucino. (that gets its piss beat out of it by a EG6).

with a Harley V-twin. (i think thats what its called).

...just for the fuck of it.

[methodofpayment]

AE86 coupe w/ TRD springs and shocks and the rest on a hasselgren formula atlantic motor.

[boro otaku]

Lotus Super Seven or Lotus Exige.

[renegade_ewok]

u think youre gonna get all that for under 50k? good luck.
Old Impreza shell - 800 dollars
RHD clip - 5000 at most (not a v7 motorset, don't need it)

Its not that expensive.

I would do the same thing...

GC8 with...
EJ207 w/ VF36
4.44 Trans, helical front, cusco tarmac center, 2 way rear diff
Coilovers, Sways, lateral links, control arms, A.L.K for that damn understeer

[Full-Lock]

probably a used lotus exige or an r34

[shishcabobers]

cappucino. (that gets its piss beat out of it by a EG6).

with a Harley V-twin. (i think thats what its called).

...just for the fuck of it.

exactly

msglength

[Mi Beardo es Loco]

a Jetpack and a sandwich

[codyace]

2000 C5 Corvette (Base)

Head/Cam/Bolt On, 440ish whp LSx
Basic suspension upgrades
9" wide and 10" wide CCWs, and coresponding tires.

Too easy.

[stiizy]

probably a GC8

with like 20k in mods and pocket the rest...

[trad1987]

I've been watching entirely too much Initial D

[jeeper_x]

a spoon EG6 for me.....

i thought this is suppose to be touge car?.....

a Corvette, seriously?.....

[codyace]

a spoon EG6 for me.....

i thought this is suppose to be touge car?.....

a Corvette, seriously?.....

Whats not to be serious about?

Big power (300 in the lowest base stock, 500 in the latest C6 Z06 (no zr1)...not to mention the instant torque)
Lightweight (all hover around 3000-3300 lbs)
Great Handling (a set of tires, and it will outperform a coilover'd basic suspension s chasis)
RWD (the only way to fly)
Big Tire Capable (yea, you can fit big boy rubber on them)

Better yet, you can find base c5's for stupid low prices...


But hey, who am I...I don't do HPDE or anything ..... :fawkd:

[lucky7]

E46 M3, and an W210 E55.

who needs mods?? :keke:

[!Zar!]

The thing is people are choosing huge cars when the passes aren't huge car friendly. But whatever.

[jeeper_x]

Whats not to be serious about?

Big power (300 in the lowest base stock, 500 in the latest C6 Z06 (no zr1)...not to mention the instant torque)
Lightweight (all hover around 3000-3300 lbs)
Great Handling (a set of tires, and it will outperform a coilover'd basic suspension s chasis)
RWD (the only way to fly)
Big Tire Capable (yea, you can fit big boy rubber on them)

Better yet, you can find base c5's for stupid low prices...

But hey, who am I...I don't do HPDE or anything ..... :fawkd:

i was thinking how big and heavy it was.....

and the op said if we were to have 50k.....

also just think of a one lane downhill touge pass.....

that thing will get smoke by a corolla....

for example, a supra TT wouldn't do good in one lane touge, but :gives:

[lucky7]

phht. a vette would manhandle a corolla.

[trad1987]

Yeah, thats talkin 400hp vs 120hp. Work the 86 up to higher power and that would show it a good race. Also it depends on what kinda road. The mountain road we used to race on in Flagstaff was super intense and there were only very short straights so a low hp 86 would come veeeery close to a high hp corvette

[lucky7]

do you guys seriously underestimate a C5/C6's handling potential that much?? the torque and hp are just icing on the cake as fara s im concerned.

[keistyle]

seriously..
done, just this with r compounds, and maybe some custom pbm coilovers.
YouTube - 1.8 turbo metro antics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltro926G5BY)
YouTube - Turbo NOS Geo Metro with an attitude (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cq2f7mRu7w4&feature=related)

[keistyle]

AND you could drift too!
YouTube - driftin the geo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZmzBgls-8c)

[trad1987]

AND you could drift too!
YouTube - driftin the geo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZmzBgls-8c)

dude thats freakin sweet

[mangoes]

with a big car you could just block both lanes ^_^

[Matej]

I would buy seventeen 240SX hatchbacks.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Lotus Elise...with the Supercharged B18 setup, Koni coilovers and some r-compounds...

[mikeyyy]

http://awesomecarauctions.com/uploaded_images/1983%20delorean%20back%20to%20the%20future-751157.jpg

DELOREAN FTW!

[VROOOM]

i was thinking how big and heavy it was.....

and the op said if we were to have 50k.....

also just think of a one lane downhill touge pass.....

that thing will get smoke by a corolla....

for example, a supra TT wouldn't do good in one lane touge, but :gives:


the C5 is lighter than many of the japanese sports cars like the Evo, Sti, and 350z. but you probably didnt know that.

[Om1kron]

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[ESmorz]

My Gremlin will smoke all you fuckers.

[Om1kron]

My Gremlin will smoke all you fuckers.

you didn't read my post, try again.

[ESmorz]

you didn't read my post, try again.

Uhh I don't think you read mine.

Me slaying dragon on the side. Sheer awesomeness will drive you off a cliff.

http://www.socal-drift.com/forum/images/smilies/mario/Smiley_v2_Pikachu.gif

[90hatchie]

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t248/White_r34/WIPs%20Car%20and%20Truck%20types/WIP%20%202008%20Honda%20S2000%20CR/Build%20Amuse/Amusecustom.jpg

[ZenkiKid]

ef9 with a K series, and then use the rest to pay off my student loans and my parents bills for the year

[Koopa Troopa]

whats not to be serious about?

Big power (300 in the lowest base stock, 500 in the latest c6 z06 (no zr1)...not to mention the instant torque)
lightweight (all hover around 3000-3300 lbs)
great handling (a set of tires, and it will outperform a coilover'd basic suspension s chasis)
rwd (the only way to fly)
big tire capable (yea, you can fit big boy rubber on them)

better yet, you can find base c5's for stupid low prices...


But hey, who am i...i don't do hpde or anything ..... :fawkd:

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[codyace]

i was thinking how big and heavy it was.....

and the op said if we were to have 50k.....

also just think of a one lane downhill touge pass.....

that thing will get smoke by a corolla....

for example, a supra TT wouldn't do good in one lane touge, but :gives:

It's readily apparent to me now, that you fall into one of the following categories

1: Play Video Games all the time, think superstreet is the best, and drive a stock Altima
2: Hang out on forums all day and think postcount = know it all
3: Dumbass

A Corolla, even in modified form, would have a hard (read: near impossible) time even keeping up with a Base beat the shit ls1 Automatic Vette, with decent tires.

Instead of blabbing off about something you have zero clue about, why not get out from behind your keyboard, goto a local HPDE, AutoX, and or Race and see what these cars actually can do. Let me assure you, you will be hard pressed to find many Corollas out there. Why even bother with a Corolla anyway when you can have a Miata?


do you guys seriously underestimate a C5/C6's handling potential that much?? the torque and hp are just icing on the cake as fara s im concerned.

Exactly. Such an excellent chassis, that most Import FFF's have no clue about. Heck even if money was nothing, the current Z06, a what, 75k ish car, embarasses cars triple it's cost with the right set of tires on it.

the C5 is lighter than many of the japanese sports cars like the Evo, Sti, and 350z. but you probably didnt know that.

Now now, they don't talk about Corvette in Dsport magazine, only 'tooner' cars.

Yeah, thats talkin 400hp vs 120hp. Work the 86 up to higher power and that would show it a good race. Also it depends on what kinda road. The mountain road we used to race on in Flagstaff was super intense and there were only very short straights so a low hp 86 would come veeeery close to a high hp corvette

Sounds like a case of piss driver versus power. PS: A 400whp Corolla would be JANK...all I'm picturing is a peaky, twitchy car, that would have either a hard time staying in power, and or then have a hard time putting it down once it got into it. I still know a 400 whp vette would beat up a 400 whp 'rola.

[s13tilldeath*]

yea definitly a Elise cause there bad ass:naughty: and this custom setup!:wackit:AND you could drift too!
YouTube - driftin the geo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZmzBgls-8c)

[jeeper_x]

the C5 is lighter than many of the japanese sports cars like the Evo, Sti, and 350z. but you probably didnt know that.

LOL.....

are you talking out of your ass rite now?

you probably don't know that....:keke:

3,300 lb - C5
3,000 lb - Evo I - IX

300 lbs mean nothing on the track, right?

[jeeper_x]

It's readily apparent to me now, that you fall into one of the following categories

1: Play Video Games all the time, think superstreet is the best, and drive a stock Altima
2: Hang out on forums all day and think postcount = know it all
3: Dumbass

A Corolla, even in modified form, would have a hard (read: near impossible) time even keeping up with a Base beat the shit ls1 Automatic Vette, with decent tires.

Instead of blabbing off about something you have zero clue about, why not get out from behind your keyboard, goto a local HPDE, AutoX, and or Race and see what these cars actually can do. Let me assure you, you will be hard pressed to find many Corollas out there. Why even bother with a Corolla anyway when you can have a Miata?




Exactly. Such an excellent chassis, that most Import FFF's have no clue about. Heck even if money was nothing, the current Z06, a what, 75k ish car, embarasses cars triple it's cost with the right set of tires on it.



Now now, they don't talk about Corvette in Dsport magazine, only 'tooner' cars.



Sounds like a case of piss driver versus power. PS: A 400whp Corolla would be JANK...all I'm picturing is a peaky, twitchy car, that would have either a hard time staying in power, and or then have a hard time putting it down once it got into it. I still know a 400 whp vette would beat up a 400 whp 'rola.


yea yea....

did you see what i said????

one lane downhill, you stupid dick.....

did i say gymhana, or race, fool?

It's readily apparent to me now that you need to:

1. Learn how to read..

2. Read...

3. Stop being a dumbass....

and i actully do drive a nissan sedan back in thailand......

LOL....

cefiro tho, not the altima.....

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/2985/image155to1.jpg

http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6398/1jzsv1.jpg

and this is what i was driving here in the states until i sold it a couple months ago....

http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4770/05022008190aq3.jpg

and yea, i love my video games and bitches on the super street mag......

[VROOOM]

LOL.....

are you talking out of your ass rite now?

you probably don't know that....:keke:

3,300 lb - C5
3,000 lb - Evo I - IX

300 lbs mean nothing on the track, right?

go to the bottom of the link and you can see the weights yourself.

2001 Chevrolet Corvette vs. 2006 Nissan 350Z vs. 2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STi vs. 2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution (http://www.cars.com/go/compare/trimCompare.jsp?acodes=USB10CHC062A0,USB60NIC091D0 ,USB50SUC081A0,USB50MIC111C0)

[jeeper_x]

go to the bottom of the link and you can see the weights yourself.

2001 Chevrolet Corvette vs. 2006 Nissan 350Z vs. 2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STi vs. 2005 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution (http://www.cars.com/go/compare/trimCompare.jsp?acodes=USB10CHC062A0,USB60NIC091D0 ,USB50SUC081A0,USB50MIC111C0)

did i pick one of these cars?

i picked a civic = 2300lbs?

LOL....you chose the base model for the covette, but you chose STIs for the wrx and MRs for the EVOs?

AWD vs RWD?

Brembo vs stupid cheap ass calipers?

[SexPanda]

I think people overestimate the size of the corvette a little. The zo6 is honestly just a tad bit bigger than my old s13. Weight wise, you can easily knock off a hundred pounds or so when you lose stupid things like the interior and what not, and with a good suspension, tires, and driver (thats the kicker. a good driver) you have a car that can not only rape, but go catholic priest, on some of the cars mentioned.

However, for half the cost, you can have an LS1 240sx with a better suspension, and weigh in at 2300 lbs, if your serious about it.

[jeeper_x]

I think people overestimate the size of the corvette a little. The zo6 is honestly just a tad bit bigger than my old s13. Weight wise, you can easily knock off a hundred pounds or so when you lose stupid things like the interior and what not, and with a good suspension, tires, and driver (thats the kicker. a good driver) you have a car that can not only rape, but go catholic priest, on some of the cars mentioned.

However, for half the cost, you can have an LS1 240sx with a better suspension, and weigh in at 2300 lbs, if your serious about it.

if you're going to put it that way, then you can weight reduce all the cars listed too....

all corvette really have is LS1...

[SexPanda]

thanks you for making my point.....

all corvette have is LS1...

Not all corvettes have an ls1. Only since the c5 corvette have the LSX engines been available.
Just wanted to say... not bashing on anyone, just clearing that up.

[jeeper_x]

Not all corvettes have an ls1. Only since the c5 corvette have the LSX engines been available.
Just wanted to say... not bashing on anyone, just clearing that up.

i'm sorry i didn't get my facts right....

i'm not one of the JDM fanboy, but i don't really pay attention to the engines in the domestic cars....

my bro's garage only work with 2jz, 1jz, sr20, 7m, 13b, and these....

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/808/3my1le54663602oc7.jpg

[SexPanda]

my bro's garage only work with 2jz, 1jz, sr20, 7m, 13b, stuff like that....

LOL 7M FTW! Nah seriously, unless your in love with keeping the stock powerplant, I dont see a reason why you SHOULDNT throw out the 7M and replace it with a 1jz.

Anyhow, if the thread was best Touge car for under 15 grand...

1989 s13 shell-500 bucks
Ls1 swap-8,000
suspension-2,000
ebay seats-400
ebay body kit-400
rattle can primer paint job-100

Now I win.

[OptionZero]

bench racer's wet dream thread?

buy a parachute and $50k worth of parachuting lessons. You'll own on the downhill

[jeeper_x]

LOL 7M FTW! Nah seriously, unless your in love with keeping the stock powerplant, I dont see a reason why you SHOULDNT throw out the 7M and replace it with a 1jz.

Anyhow, if the thread was best Touge car for under 15 grand...

1989 s13 shell-500 bucks
Ls1 swap-8,000
suspension-2,000
ebay seats-400
ebay body kit-400
rattle can primer paint job-100

Now I win.

50k, son...:)

now I WIN!

[VROOOM]

did i pick one of these cars?

i picked a civic = 2300lbs?

LOL....you chose the base model for the covette, but you chose STIs for the wrx and MRs for the EVOs?

AWD vs RWD?

Brembo vs stupid cheap ass calipers?

nice way to change the subject. just pointing out how biased your post about the corvette is.

[gripstr]

AWD conversion on a s13 hatch haha!

[ThatGuy]

Actually, if you want to break it down even further...

1997-2004 Corvette - LS1 5.7 litre 305-350hp 335-375ft/lbs (rated)
2005-2007 Corvette - LS2 6.0 litre 400-412hp 400-412ft/lbs (rated)
2008 Corvette - LS3 6.2 litre 430hp 424ft/lbs (rated)
2001-2004 Corvette Z06 - LS6 5.7 litre 385-405hp 385-400ft/lbs (rated)
2006-2008 Corvette Z06 - LS7 7.0 litre 505hp 470ft/lbs (rated)
2009 Corvette ZR1 - LS9 (Supercharged) 638hp 604ft/lbs (rated)

There is also the LS4 303hp 323ft/lbs(FWD), LSX 300-2500+hp(built to suit), and the LSA 556hp 551ft/lbs (Also Supercharged, but not as big as the LS9)

:l101:

[jeeper_x]

nice way to change the subject. just pointing out how biased your post about the corvette is.

dude, how am i changing the subject?

base model of the EVO IX = 2800 lbs?

anyways, let put it this way....

show me some videos of a corvette running a one lane downhill touge

and i'll become a believer....

how about that?

[VROOOM]

dude, how am i changing the subject?

first you said i was wrong about weights, i proved you wrong so you changed the subject.

[jeeper_x]

first you said i was wrong about weights, i proved you wrong so you changed the subject.


base model of the EVO IX = 2800 lbs?

[lucky7]

corvette haterade anyone? jeebus...

C5 > evo IX, or whatever.

[SexPanda]

I love corvettes. I dont see what there isnt to like about them. Classic american muscle. And one of the only cars you can buy for under $25,000 that can run 11's with 1000 dollars worth of mods.

[VROOOM]

base model of the EVO IX = 2800 lbs?

really?

from car and driver the evo rs, which is the lightweight version.



The RS gives up all comfort and civility in the name of saving weight, denting the dirt with 234 fewer pounds than the standard Evo. Of course, eliminating keyless entry, a CD player, and the power goodies doesn't shed enough weight to make a performance point, so the RS must also leave the factory without the standard model's sound-deadening material, trunk lining, anti-lock brake system, rear wing, rear-window wiper, high-intensity-discharge headlamps, and just about every interior practicality, including the vanity mirrors, rear assist grips, and map lights. Even the door handles and side mirrors lack the weight of paint. Our tester was without an air conditioner as well. Mitsubishi later decided that all '04 RSs would be fitted with that convenience. So with A/C, we reckon the RS would be somewhat closer to Mitsu's 3175-pound estimate.


linky
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution RS - Short Take Road Test/Evo/WRX Zone/High Performance/Hot Lists/Reviews/Car and Driver - Car And Driver (http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/evo_wrx_zone/mitsubishi_lancer_evolution_rs_short_take_road_tes t)


im done with this argument.
the vette is a bad ass car no matter what you say.

[jeeper_x]

im done with this argument.
the vette is a bad ass car no matter what you say.

dude, did I even said a corvette is a bad car?

all i said was that it's too big for one lane downhill touge....

i don't know why you and the saddam guy from PA took everything up your asses.....:down::down::down:

[lucky7]

too big? can you elaborate on said "one lane downhill touge"? will you be racing down a sidewalk?

[jeeper_x]

okay....

imagine this.....

one way lane down the mountain....

like this video....

YouTube - taniguchi touge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lzLOfKeTFs)

i mean corvette wide ass prob. won't even fit there....

[murda-c]

the vette is only 1.6 inches wider than the evo....that's .8 inches per side...

[jeeper_x]

lol....

they like 4 inches wider than the evo...

and 1 inch longer than the evo....

[trad1987]

seriously, what kind of set up would you guys build to put the lowest downhill time on your local pass?

[jeeper_x]

how much you seriously got?

[0100]

Honda Fit with LSx swap and filled with hoes. I mean packed to the max, bitches hanging out the window packed. I will still be lighter than the evo and vette!

Haha I win the Tougay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jeeper_x]

dude, honda fit is the bomb....

it's like driving a go-cart....

seriously, i have one....

[0100]

You need to put a LS90000 in it!

[jeeper_x]

Lol!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ghostdrifter]

RWB 1985 Porsche 930 w/ a new 911 GT2 engine
http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/Car%20Features/Nakai/IMG_9303.jpg
DONE

[lucky7]

Honda Fit with LSx swap and filled with hoes. I mean packed to the max, bitches hanging out the window packed. I will still be lighter than the evo and vette!

Haha I win the Tougay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lowest weight + most narrow car = winnar!!

why even race?? apparently all you need to declare the winnarr is a scale and at measuring tape. :keke:

[0100]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g11/cc4usmc3/shifter_kart.jpg

Then I'd blow the rest on hookers.

lowest weight + most narrow car = winnar!!



Yeah he may be the winnar, but I can "fit" more hookers in my RHD LS9million Fit. :bigok:

[SexPanda]

This thread went from 60 to fail in like... 1 page.

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

FD3S

brotaries.

[murda-c]

hachi because initial d says so. or maybe the cappuccino was better or someseeeng,.

[0100]

No the hachi beat the cappuccino.

[murda-c]

but wasn't it cuz the driver of the cappuccino wasn't used to driving it?

it pretty much out hachi'd the hachi right?

god i'm a fuckin dork.

[jeeper_x]

fuck that....

hachi beat all!!!









,except LSxXXX fit filled with hookers!

[murda-c]

fuck that shit it's all about the w16 quad turbo cappuccino.

[!Zar!]

dude, did I even said a corvette is a bad car?

all i said was that it's too big for one lane downhill touge....

i don't know why you and the saddam guy from PA took everything up your asses.....:down::down::down:

Width of a c6, 72.6 in (1844 mm)

Width of an evo, 1770 mm (69.7 in)

With of a miata, 65.9 in (1,670 mm)

All sourced form wikipedia.

So all this width bullshit is useless.

[jeeper_x]

well, it's just my opinion...

you know....

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

fuck that....

hachi beat all!!!









,except LSxXXX fit filled with hookers!

wrong. he lost to evo 3.

[Koopa Troopa]

It's readily apparent to me now, that you fall into one of the following categories

1: Play Video Games all the time, think superstreet is the best, and drive a stock Altima
2: Hang out on forums all day and think postcount = know it all
3: Dumbass

A Corolla, even in modified form, would have a hard (read: near impossible) time even keeping up with a Base beat the shit ls1 Automatic Vette, with decent tires.

Instead of blabbing off about something you have zero clue about, why not get out from behind your keyboard, goto a local HPDE, AutoX, and or Race and see what these cars actually can do. Let me assure you, you will be hard pressed to find many Corollas out there. Why even bother with a Corolla anyway when you can have a Miata?


Sounds like a case of piss driver versus power. PS: A 400whp Corolla would be JANK...all I'm picturing is a peaky, twitchy car, that would have either a hard time staying in power, and or then have a hard time putting it down once it got into it. I still know a 400 whp vette would beat up a 400 whp 'rola.

Dude, I doubt you've ever seen a decent driver from the way you talk. I've seen pretty stock B16A CR-X's hanging on the ass of 32 GTR's. Also you talk like you've never seen a decent hachi. I have. A 200 some WHP N/A 86 is a badass car. The greatest sound ever is a N/A 1.6L screaming to 9k.

Also a 400 whp hachi is a straight drag car and that's an insane car to sit shotgun in. I would know, a very good friend of mine had a SR powered T04S turbo hachi. It was insane.

Since you've never seen a decent hachi, I'll link you to these vids
YouTube - AE-86 Battle in Tsukuba 2007 Part 1/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zgLLn6UfAw)
YouTube - AE-86 Battle in Tsukuba 2007 Part 2/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IHR8SzgtcA)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPfi-ZeQRM

[an_orange_s2k]

50k on black..time to double up baby!! hahah i'd pick up a fd shell and dump a 20b in there + extras

[ESmorz]

Ford Maverick with an RB26

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t114/440cuda/Maverick/DSCF5528.jpg

All the newest mustang goodies I could throw at it.
Sportmax in the front and Rota's taking it up the rear
And a vinyl of me doing the dudes girl Im racing on the side

[SW20Racer]

Why even bother with a Corolla anyway when you can have a Miata?


best part of this thread

[flclsteve]

1.50k touge car
2.ae86 with intial d stickers
3.?????????????
4.profit

[trad1987]

1.50k touge car
2.ae86 with intial d stickers
3.?????????????
4.profit


3. Cocaine, strippers, and a $2k s13 off zilvia.

[HyperTek]

dam no one said E30 M3!?!?
YouTube - E30 Rally (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkQBD3eYADA&feature=related)

[SexPanda]

dam no one said E30 M3!?!?
YouTube - E30 Rally (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkQBD3eYADA&feature=related)

If I had an e30 M3, which I would gladly give all 50 grand for one in mint condition, I'd sure as hell not destroy it trying out my novice racing skills on mountain roads.

http://bmwmregistry.com/media/E30M3withracer.jpg
Actually, I'd buy 2 decent condition ones for 30K, get the worse of the two's S14 motor (yeah thats the engine code lol) up to 300 hp (NA mind you) and do that. They'd both have 2.5 stroker kits, to bump up the displacement from 2.0, and I'd throw on some Bilstein coilovers, call it a day.

[lucky7]

^^ you could get crazy and put an S38 in one of them.
really crazy and add some boost. making the car completely useless.

Evo motor + koni/H&R race. that would be a badass ride.
(S14 = 2.3L)

i have an E30. its bone stock, and 21 years old. but its fun as fuck.
modding the suspension this winter.

[SexPanda]

Lol oops. the s14 engine IS 2.3 liters... I was thinking silvia s14 i think... Yeah I really want to pick up an old e30 325is and do some modding to it. I love those. they would make good touge cars too. Small, cheap, powerful (with mods) and handle well.

[lucky7]

get one, theyre fun as fawk.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3012/2868221873_da1a49efb9_b.jpg
mine is an '87 325is. got it with 133k on it, almost zero rust for $1700. the clutch is good, trans shifts awesome. it runs great. small issues to take care of before winter.

since ive gotten it though, ive only driven my 240 like 5 times. and i dont miss it. :keke:

[lucky7]

infact, this my main inspiration. since its an early car with the diving boards, like mine.
http://www.r3vlimited.com/gallery/files/1/2/3/4/4/IMG_7605.JPG

i have some mudflaps to go on mine. im also planning 16x8 0 offset steelies. pretty similar though. i like it. :bigok:

[TUnity2]

Oh bitching and bickering, Time to end this thread.

Way better then an Atom IMO:
KTM X-Bow
http://image.motortrend.com/f/europe/two-new-ktms-win-debut-race-er-kinda/9716653+cr1+re0+ar1/2008-ktm-xbow-front.jpg

[Antihero983]

wow no one brought up my choices...I'm suprised....

1988 AW11 MR2
single, small turbo set up, fully built engine
complete suspension and cage setup
te37s with R comps.
flat black paint

1974 260Z
2.8L swap with triple mikunis
full suspension
full cage
flat black
TE37s with R compounds.

[!Zar!]

A Z wouldn't be a good choice imo for a handling car against the likes of other cars mentioned.

[drift freaq]

A Z wouldn't be a good choice imo for a handling car against the likes of other cars mentioned.

I would second this. While the Z did dominate its racing class in its era and kicked the Porsche of its era's ass,it was in no way the most neutral handling car. In fact it has two distinct driving styles IMO excessive understeer or lots of power on oversteer. Neutral does not come into the equation unless you toss a SR20 in it and even then, its almost a 40 year old car that has antiquated suspension design.
There are so many cars already pointed out in this thread that would just run rings around it its silly to even think of using the Z.

Now Z's have a warm place in my heart (first sports car owned,and no the 510 is a sport sedan) but I am realistic here.

You want to know what you could get for 50k that would handle insanely in the mountains? Before I tell what it is, I will preface it with the fact that it was light years ahead of its time and laid the ground work for all mid engined Super Cars.

A Superformance, Caroll Shelby approved Ford GT40 Replica! Yes they build them for you in that price range and yes you have your choice of engines. Yes they have even made some refinements in the suspension while staying true to the initial design.
The original versions of these cars dominated Le Mans at 200mph and kicked the 512 Ferrari's ass and the Porsche 917's ass.

[0100]

^True true but a properly built s30 would inialate everything on the mountain.

Spirit garage s30!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://s-garage.hp.infoseek.co.jp/s30-2.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8407/sg240z043so1.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2329/sg240z044kf3.jpg

[Antihero983]

or how about a fully built MR2 spyder.....

[!Zar!]

^True true but a properly built s30 would inialate everything on the mountain.

Spirit garage s30!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://s-garage.hp.infoseek.co.jp/s30-2.jpg

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/8407/sg240z043so1.jpg

http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2329/sg240z044kf3.jpg
Not true.
or how about a fully built MR2 spyder.....

Yet again, don't see that happening.

I'd sooner choose a bmw 2002 or a original mini over those two cars.

[Antihero983]

^then you've never seen Hot Version on Best Motoring....because a MRS TORE the fucking touge a new one in one of the episodes.

they make damned good touge cars.

[!Zar!]

I've seen that episode.

But there are more cars than just Japanese made ones that can handle.

[0100]

^Of course there are. Shit anything with enough money could be made to handle pretty well.

[renegade_ewok]

I originally said I would take a true GC8 for a togue car. Its still a damn good car if you get rid of the understeer... but i retract that statement.

E30 M3, S52 motor, worked suspension/brakes. Really, I would be happy with this setup for the rest of my life.

[!Zar!]

^Of course there are. Shit anything with enough money could be made to handle pretty well.

Yes. But it'll end up like nascar. So far from the original design that it's just a shell over a race design.

[jeeper_x]

wrong. he lost to evo 3.

nope....

it didn't count even hawk said so......

:naughtyd::naughtyd::naughtyd:

[The ROMAN]

Well I would first have to buy at least 50k of dirt, rocks and pavement to make a touge in this lame state of mine.

[spartanic]

Here's a quick rundown on top of my head: S13 coupe with fully modded high revving NA RB25DE. It'll have ITBs. Tomei internals, 17inch gold Advan RGII wheels, rollcage, Bride CF bucket seats, Nardi Deep Corn steering wheel, custom Hytech headers, JIC coilovers, JDM S13 Silvia front end conversion, Nismo Z-Tuner Skyline silver paint job, etc.

Keeping it clean as hell: Priceless.

[i8yourfwd]

Yes. But it'll end up like nascar. So far from the original design that it's just a shell over a race design.
YouTube - Kafani - Fasst ft. Keak Da Sneak (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CqA082Jbf8)

..?? yes?

[yudalicious]

seriously, what kind of set up would you guys build to put the lowest downhill time on your local pass?

me and a bunch of other racers (there's my boiz big al, chang, ross) formed a racing team we are going to be racing with local racers down hill and up hill on the passes at different touges across the nation. we are called Team Project Nightrising Kidz, so look out for us. i'm the gum tape death match specialist, big al is the down hill guy, even though he's fat (hence the name lol) he's the best down hill driver he can pump the brakes so they don't lock up and downshift with the best of them... coz udnersteer's a bitch ya know... chang is the new kid while ross is the uphill specialist, he's rpobably 2nd fastest after me. i usually jsut analyze the touge and give them advice on the walkie talkie, usually i'll scout out the touge passes for special racing lines...

anywayz we r already the fastest at appalachian touges, gona be making road trips across like rocky mountain touges, and other smaller touges around the nation to battle ppl. no money just for pride, coz we are really into touge racing and we are hoping to win our challengs and go to japan and run the mt. fuji volcano touge. if you wanna join you can submit a video of you running down a touge in your local touge, preferably beating someone on the downhill (if that's your preference). keep up the racing bro someday you will be really good, maybe as fast as me, and if you submit a video we will think about letting you oin when we go out there.

www.projectnightrisingkidz.com

[illvialuver]

so there is a guy in my town with a 06 corvette zo6 and it is supercharged. sounds fucking amazing, I always imagine having that shit in an s15. that or an fd, I think they would tear shit up, I don't know about the overall balance of the car, but it would damn sure fuck some shit up.

[Koopa Troopa]

nope....

it didn't count even hawk said so......

:naughtyd::naughtyd::naughtyd:


Who the fuck is Hawk?

[lucky7]

so there is a guy in my town with a 06 corvette zo6 and it is supercharged. sounds fucking amazing, I always imagine having that shit in an s15. that or an fd, I think they would tear shit up, I don't know about the overall balance of the car, but it would damn sure fuck some shit up.

ever hear of katech? they're about 20 mins from me. they have some of the nastiest corvettes ive ever seen running around on the streets.. they have several Z06's that i see. blatently cammed. you can hear them from a distance.

Katech Street Attack Z06

585 horsepower
560 lb-ft of torque

Significant weight savings when fully optioned

Call for pricing


when you see the Katech windshield banner, you know it goes 10's. :keke:

that happens alot though now that i think about it.
-livernois motorsports
-stenod performance
-alternative auto (the ford man)
-katech

im sure you can youtube all those names and see some wicked shit. but when you see the shop stickers, you know they're for real. :keke:

back on topic. although i think a dead horse is being beaten.

[inferno s14]

gutted toyota mrs with built k20....put the rest of the dough up for bets...lolll

[Koopa Troopa]

gutted toyota mrs with built k20....put the rest of the dough up for bets...lolll

Ｔｏｏ　ｂａｄ　ｔｈｅ　ｋ２０　ｓｗａｐｐｅｄ　ＭＲＳ　ｇｏｔ　ｐｗｎｅｄ　ｉｎ　ｔｈｅ 　ｋ２０ battle.

[SW20Racer]

Who the fuck is Hawk?

its the guy in the bandana. just keep your eyes peeled for a black evo 3 with a misfiring system.
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/perry470/go2id/characters/images/a-kyouichiseiji01.jpg

me and a bunch of other racers (there's my boiz big al, chang, ross) formed a racing team we are going to be racing with local racers down hill and up hill on the passes at different touges across the nation. we are called Team Project Nightrising Kidz, so look out for us. i'm the gum tape death match specialist, big al is the down hill guy, even though he's fat (hence the name lol) he's the best down hill driver he can pump the brakes so they don't lock up and downshift with the best of them... coz udnersteer's a bitch ya know... chang is the new kid while ross is the uphill specialist, he's rpobably 2nd fastest after me. i usually jsut analyze the touge and give them advice on the walkie talkie, usually i'll scout out the touge passes for special racing lines...

anywayz we r already the fastest at appalachian touges, gona be making road trips across like rocky mountain touges, and other smaller touges around the nation to battle ppl. no money just for pride, coz we are really into touge racing and we are hoping to win our challengs and go to japan and run the mt. fuji volcano touge. if you wanna join you can submit a video of you running down a touge in your local touge, preferably beating someone on the downhill (if that's your preference). keep up the racing bro someday you will be really good, maybe as fast as me, and if you submit a video we will think about letting you oin when we go out there.

www.projectnightrisingkidz.com

bring it to bham bitches.

you stand no chance against the tercel. prepare for assimilation.

[Koopa Troopa]

I was making fun of you Tokyo Pop Initial D watchers if you didn't catch that

[Mikey213]

fuck the bs...
YouTube - ZCARS TWIN R1 ENGINED MINI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2Tyi3XFt5g)

[illvialuver]

yeah that thing is cammed and supercharged, shit sounds like ultimate power. clean raspie and the whine of the super charger, lets you know he will fuck your shit up.

but that would be one of them for sure, if not I would prolly say a fd or something, like that, maybe even a crazy s15. or a miata.

[TheWolf]

Not true.


Yet again, don't see that happening.

I'd sooner choose a bmw 2002 or a original mini over those two cars.

My 1969 BMW 2002 Alpina agrees with your statement.. Given about 250hp they are ungodly scary...

[lucky7]

my friends '76 '02. bilstein sports + H&R race springs. BMP flares, aftermarket seats and front lip + bumper delete. metric mechanic motor with dual webbers. its a FUN little fucker. EXTREMELY raw and in your face.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v415/Dsrugis/DSC00951.jpg

i get to drive it when my hand is healed.

[jeeper_x]

I was making fun of you Tokyo Pop Initial D watchers if you didn't catch that

sorry, man......

i never watch initial D....

i read them as in comic books in thailand when it first came out....

http://www.scoobyblog.com/uploads/2007/11/martin.jpg

my new choice.....

suppose to cost a mil in development, but watever.....:keke:

[TheWolf]

my friends '76 '02. bilstein sports + H&R race springs. BMP flares, aftermarket seats and front lip + bumper delete. metric mechanic motor with dual webbers. its a FUN little fucker. EXTREMELY raw and in your face.


i get to drive it when my hand is healed.

http://www.diesel-direct.com/bmw2002.jpg

ITB's with mechanical fuel injection.. built motor.. coilovers.. and when it's autox time a 4.45 rear lsd. with hoosiers on it will lift the inside front wheel accelerating through a corner..

[exitspeed]

I dunno. I've always been a fan of older Evo's, specifically the 6. it just LOOKS like a rally car.
http://webpages.csus.edu/~naa22/mitsubishi_lancer%206.jpg
http://webpages.csus.edu/~naa22/evo6666666_styl_02.jpg

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

i still stand by my choice of FD. lightweight, balance, power, and it looks cool.

http://www.yokohamatire.jp/yrc/japan/wheel/brand/advan_tc2/image/de_car_02.jpg

[sac]

invest 50k into what i already have! hows that?

[codyace]

LOL.....
are you talking out of your ass rite now?
you probably don't know that....:keke:

3,300 lb - C5
3,000 lb - Evo I - IX

300 lbs mean nothing on the track, right?

The only person talking out of the rear end, is the kid making up specs he gets from Gran Turismo 3. That's you.

And 300 lbs on a track, in a car with 50-100 more ft lbs isn't making any differenec. In fact, place that weight in certain areas, and it could make the car faster!


yea yea....
did you see what i said????
one lane downhill, you stupid dick.....
did i say gymhana, or race, fool?
It's readily apparent to me now that you need to:
1. Learn how to read..
2. Read...
3. Stop being a dumbass....
and yea, i love my video games and bitches on the super street mag......

The only person that needs to learn how to read, is you. You can't even look up simple specs online. Keep reading that SuperTooner mag you got, it's got all the answers.

if you're going to put it that way, then you can weight reduce all the cars listed too....

all corvette really have is LS1...

ThatGuy pretty much summed it up. Even if they did 'just have' an LS1, it's god's gift to bolt ons.

bench racer's wet dream thread?
buy a parachute and $50k worth of parachuting lessons. You'll own on the downhill

Join the military, it's more fun non directional.

i'm sorry i didn't get my facts right....
i'm not one of the JDM fanboy, but i don't really pay attention to the engines in the domestic cars....
my bro's garage only work with 2jz, 1jz, sr20, 7m, 13b, and these....


So you essentially just admitted to talking out of your ass. I work on big trucks at my Dad's shop when i'm not in class or working at the Cuonty...that doesn't make me an expert on big liter diesels!


show me some videos of a corvette running a one lane downhill touge

and i'll become a believer....

how about that?

The only thing you need to do, is watch legitamte racing, not some night time initial d crap on some back woods roads.


all i said was that it's too big for one lane downhill touge...
i don't know why you and the saddam guy from PA took everything up your asses.....:down::down::down:
I took nothing. I just have had a great laugh at your ignorance to cars. PS: Ever even been in a Vette? I'm going to assume 'no'. YOu'd realize that the areas where the Vette is bigger (track width, and maybe length) are better for traction? Did you also take the 'lower center of gravity' into your 'D Sport Touge Racer SPL Calculator?

Dude, I doubt you've ever seen a decent driver from the way you talk. I've seen pretty stock B16A CR-X's hanging on the ass of 32 GTR's. Also you talk like you've never seen a decent hachi. I have. A 200 some WHP N/A 86 is a badass car. The greatest sound ever is a N/A 1.6L screaming to 9k.

Also a 400 whp hachi is a straight drag car and that's an insane car to sit shotgun in. I would know, a very good friend of mine had a SR powered T04S turbo hachi. It was insane.

Since you've never seen a decent hachi, I'll link you to these vids
YouTube - AE-86 Battle in Tsukuba 2007 Part 1/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zgLLn6UfAw)
YouTube - AE-86 Battle in Tsukuba 2007 Part 2/2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IHR8SzgtcA)
YouTube - 20b rotary powered ae 86 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvPfi-ZeQRM)


Funny you say that. I'll be at Watkins Glen this weekend, all weekend. I'll make sure to see how many Rusted 'rollas are out there taking down base Corvettes. I wouldn't expect you to know that, or know I've been to ALMS races, gone through 15 -20 HPDE days, AutoX'd, Been to other class SCCA/Nasa (mainly northeast tho) events...I mean, what do I know? Not claiming to be an expert, but I'm pretty sure I've got a pretty good background in this stuff.

I mean, I've driven the track twice already, and not seen one....but I'll be sure to look again this weekend.

You can put up all those JDM option or whatever videos you want...the truth is, when I am atually at a track (whether HPDE, or crewing for a friend) I know what I see, I know what is fast, and I know what is going on.

PS: It's also funny to watch Sentras beat up on swapped engine, CRX HC cars. But I didn't read that in Option, so it must not happen.


ever hear of katech? they're about 20 mins from me. they have some of the nastiest corvettes ive ever seen running around on the streets.. they have several Z06's that i see. blatently cammed. you can hear them from a distance.


Oh man. Funny, a POS Pushrod Corvette has dominated GT1 ALMS for what, the last 5-6 years? Obviously a well built 1987 Corolla would do better.

[lucky7]

Obviously. its not as wide, so it fits on the road better. :rofl:

[!Zar!]

Fuck you all.

Jdm is better.

ALWAYS!

[codyace]

Obviously. its not as wide, so it fits on the road better. :rofl:

Yea. I guess we acn't also use the nice 265+ (or whatever the lowest front tire width is) and hte 285+ back either. Darn having such a a huge cars, with huge rubber.

Fuck you all.

Jdm is better.

ALWAYS!

Wait, you're a Ford fan deep down?

I never would have guessed :coolugh:

JDM Engineering (http://www.teamjdm.com/) (They make go fast late model Ford Mustang and Lightning parts)

[muddafakka]

Used TVR T350, Sagaris, or Typhon. Sagaris preferably.

Lightweight, raw, no electronic driving aids.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o254/rr_s13/TVR-Sagaris-02.jpg

[lucky7]

arent those things supposed to kill the driver when attempting to go 'round a corner?? :keke: i think clarkson explained it something like that. raw ass car though. i dig 'em. prob wont take the cake on this one though.

the truth is painful sometimes. i am a closet mustang fanboy. its true.. white SN95 (roumd body) cobras get me everytime. the sound of a mod motor makes me weak at the knees. i kid you not.

ive just revised my vote. this E12. with a cammed euro S38 plz.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/danerm3/DSC_0268.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/danerm3/DSC_0381.jpg

should have enough tire to turn. lol.

[AWDalbert]

J's racing s2k

I'd DD it with stereo, and a/c

YouTube - J'S RACING S2000 new at touge battle HV touge の戦い HV に不慣れなＪの競 争している S2000 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6YfX4HZXSA)

[sub9lulu]

Obviously. its not as wide, so it fits on the road better. :rofl:

YouTube - Smart with Hayabusa engine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPQIizRp9ck)

i wonder how quick does this thing roll down ... akina

[lucky7]

race down a mountain? my strategy: drive off edge. wait for you to get to the bottom.
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/len_rogers/july2003/tatra_mixer.jpg

ill prob rub one out, and smoke a fat cuban before you get there. :keke:

innovation is the name of the game.

[The ROMAN]

In that case I pick a hang glider....a Louis Vuitton one?

[Antihero983]

I'd have Blu808 build me a sick ass LS1 FC

[VROOOM]

race down a mountain? my strategy: drive off edge. wait for you to get to the bottom.
http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/len_rogers/july2003/tatra_mixer.jpg

ill prob rub one out, and smoke a fat cuban before you get there. :keke:

innovation is the name of the game.


those things weigh about 60k pounds loaded.

[lucky7]

exactly. 60k lbs + gravity = me the winner.

[0100]

My final choice is a used radical sr3 for $50k.

I would have said a Radical SR8, which does the ring in 6:55, but it's too much. The SR3 does it in 7:12. Good bye GTR, ZR1, Viper ACR, LFA, and 911.

Radical SR3 Hillclimb Video | Veoh Video Network (http://www.veoh.com/videos/e13387)

^Touge run, actual video isn't an SR3, but very similar car. A must see video!

YouTube - 1 Radical SR3 vs 2 Radical SR8's Racing at Croft! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qqJ6JRtPAs)

^In car SR3 vs 2 SR8's, another must see video. Watch the whole thing, trust me.

http://www.roebuck.eclipse.co.uk/pics/photos030421/139-3906_img.jpg

In black though.

http://www.roebuck.eclipse.co.uk/pics/photos030421/139-3904_img.jpg

Game over.

[ESmorz]

http://www.exoticcarsite.com/pictures/Cars/lotus/elan-1962/lotus-elan-1962-3.jpg

Twin Hayabusa's w/ Velocity Stacks
The best suspension I could budget
Some thick ass rubber
Barney paint scheme

[jeeper_x]

:snoop::snoop::snoop:


ummm.....

i read the specs from the website MR. VROOM had posted....:keke:

i guess the specs weren't right then....:hs:

actually, we are talking about some stupid back road, mr. saddam.....

is the op even talking about road racing?

is this thread's name, "Best Time Attack/AutoX/Track car for 50k?"

did i claim i was an expert in any source of fields?

hahaha, i even said i don't know anything about the domestics....

you're just repeating what i said, bro....

all i said in this thread was that the c5 look too big and too heavy for touge paths....

it was just an opinion of a 20 years old on a 240 forum....

but, you have to put it up your ass so deep that you probably could taste it....

did your parents hug you when you were a kid?

do you need some attention?

all you needed to do was explain, or show me how this car is a good car for touge instead of try to force it down my throat with your smack talk....

no, I've never been in a corvette, and prob. won't ever be in one in the future.....

i mean i wouldn't buy the c5 ever because i just think it's just plain ugly....

(again, my opinion)....

and even if i could afford z06, i would probably buy some other car with that kind of money......

if you love the corvettes so much, then why don't you buy one?

why work on something that you think is less superior than the corvette, or the god almighty LS1?

i love my SR20det that is why I'm on this forum, not the Corvetteforum.com...

also, you should get your ass check out....:-/

(it's not healthy to put everything up in there, man)

Dude, I'm done arguing in this thread, so if you still want to explain to me how good the corvettes are for the path such as in the video i posted......

you can do it via pm.....:keke:

[jeeper_x]

my new choice.....

j's racing fit with these hos in the trunk!

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0go4euU4W47wl/340x.jpg

[Pblesh85]

A stock auto pontiac aztec in inca green.:2f2f:

Use the other 30k in autozone parts or fnf bodykits.

[muddafakka]

arent those things supposed to kill the driver when attempting to go 'round a corner?? :keke: i think clarkson explained it something like that. raw ass car though. i dig 'em. prob wont take the cake on this one though.

I think he said something about them being terrifying or scary to drive. He said the Sagaris wasn't as bad as the previous ones before though. But there's nothing wrong with owning or driving a car that frightens you just a little bit. :keke:

But yeah it probably won't take the cake but it's whatever. My preference. It's more of an endurance racer than anything.

[smellslikecurry]

http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/assets/resources/2006/08/Transformers-MustangBarricade.jpg

http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/12/441824576db674a51f.jpg


so i can blow you the fuck up when you get too far ahead of me

[lucky7]

I think he said something about them being terrifying or scary to drive. He said the Sagaris wasn't as bad as the previous ones before though. But there's nothing wrong with owning or driving a car that frightens you just a little bit. :keke:

But yeah it probably won't take the cake but it's whatever. My preference. It's more of an endurance racer than anything.

thats funny. i heard they were purchased by some rich dude in russia. he or his son brought the comany back to life. but then i heard rumors of them being down and out once again?

surely a tough looking car. its like europes version of the viper, but even less refined. if that s even possible. :keke:

[!Zar!]

lol @ jeeper_x

[ripnbst]

a supercharged boxster s

*i like boxsters.. they look better then the 996 of same era*

you are drunk, 996's are sex on wheels. Pull like a freight train when they hit boost. I'd get a used White EVO 9

MODS:

HTA 35R + Supporting mods
2.3 Stroker
Fully balanced rotating assembly
FMIC
Coilovers
Make it looks like the sun auto EVO.

Build for 600-700 whp on race gas tune

thats prolly in the ballpark of 50k.

[!Zar!]

what's the point of 700 hp in the hills might I ask?

[lucky7]

lol @ jeeper_x

+1. and not just in this thread. :rofl:

[0100]

you are drunk, 996's are sex on wheels. Pull like a freight train when they hit boost. I'd get a used White EVO 9

MODS:

HTA 35R + Supporting mods
2.3 Stroker
Fully balanced rotating assembly
FMIC
Coilovers
Make it looks like the sun auto EVO.

Build for 600-700 whp on race gas tune

thats prolly in the ballpark of 50k.

haha that is too funny, because I am pretty much building that exact car in real life. 450awhp on 93 and twin scroll 35r instead, and I sold off the rear voltex fenders as I didn't care for them.

Project: HippieKiller Mountain/TimeAttack EVO - evolutionm.net (http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=349620)

Will see how it does come the 09 season. Will be running tons of tracks and hillclimbs.

[vvtisupra]

used ariel atom supercharged k20

[muddafakka]

thats funny. i heard they were purchased by some rich dude in russia. he or his son brought the comany back to life. but then i heard rumors of them being down and out once again?

Yeah Nikolai Smolensky. I don't think he's done shit since buying it. I don't think he even owns one. If I were filthy rich I'd buy that company. No joke.

But yeah the company is in limbo at the moment. I don't think anything's been made since '05. There were plans of bringing them over here in '09 but how they'll make it past U.S. safety regulations and other guidelines is beyond me.

[yudalicious]

what's the point of 700 hp in the hills might I ask?

he's an uphill specialist building an uphill car, dur........... make sure to get that misfiring system though, don't lag!

[codyace]

what's the point of 700 hp in the hills might I ask?

+1. and not just in this thread. :rofl:

I think his '20 years old on a 240 forum' comment summed it up for me lol. Gran Turismo 3 and Initial D are helluva drugs these days ;)

[racepar1]

Is this shit seriously still going? Fuck give me $50k to spend and I could turn ANY moddable car into a touge monster! Honestly though the top cars would be:

-lotus elise/exige
-honda s2k (as much as I hate to admit it)
-mazda miata
-maybe a toyota mr-s

All of those cars are small, light, and nimble which is exactly what you need on a tight canyon road. Also they are RWD (right wheel drive). Any FWD platform will leave something to be desired. The ONLY other cars (that I can think of) that could arguably be on that list is the mitsu evo (which I also hate to admit) and the subaru wrx's as they are AWD and could take advantage of higher hp numbers. Remember in the canyons HP means absolutely nothing 99% of the time as there is no room to really take advantage of it in a straight line (most of the time) and any 2wd car simply cannot put big power to the ground effectively in such tight slippery quarters.

[stiizy]

my new choice.....

j's racing fit with these hos in the trunk!

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0go4euU4W47wl/340x.jpg

yeah ill take that blonde hoe too

[muddafakka]

yeah ill take that blonde hoe too
:werd::hitit:

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

what's the point of 700 hp in the hills might I ask?

i conquer.

[nismoTRD20]

steal a porsche 911 turbo AWD and dump 50k in it lol bust some gone in sixty seconds shit haha

[lflkajfj12123]

i skimmed over this thread

but we are talking about a good car for touge / canyon running right??

so many people are choosing high horsepower heavy cars

i would choose a s2000 or an fc3s - light weight and high revs

if i chose the s2000 i'd build it like the OPERA s2000

S2000 Forums -> Kazunori Yamauchi (Creator of Gran Turismo Video Game) and His Real AP1 Race Car!!! (http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=126013)

http://easyfinder.atnext.com/images/next-photos/EasyFinder/592/640pixfolder/X592-027/14.jpg

http://easyfinder.atnext.com/images/next-photos/EasyFinder/592/640pixfolder/X592-027/22.jpg

motor is stock car is 2003 lbs or something ridiculous

[junn]

theres nothing like a ae86 with 20v on itb's

[HyperTek]

theres nothing like JDM fanboys lmao jk

Super 7
http://www.kitcarlist.com/images/super7cars-lotus7.jpg
or E30 M3
http://www.dtmpower.net/forum/attachments/e30-m3/16781d1034429432-yeeeeeehaw-e30-m3-rally-pic-e30m3rally.jpeg

[hailandkill]

FS: white Warsteiner e30 M3, Euro S50B32, 6 speed, Brembos, Recaros, MINT ! - ///S14.net (http://www.s14.net/forums/showthread.php?t=32180)

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m17/vlad-e30m3/miniature%20M3s/IMG_0077.jpg

E30 M3 DTM replica, $47500. I HAVE FOUND A WINNAR

[ef8=z]

k20 crx ftw

[murda-c]

some crazy hillclimb or rally car with sticky tires.

[Agamemnon]

I hear these things tear up the mountains quite well.
http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/14/2814-004-1582A244.jpg

[lflkajfj12123]

yeah i thought about it some more

fd3s hands down

[JDM_inspired]

used exige and call it a day...

[S13_Nightkid]

I literally lol'ed at the transformer comment. I'd prefer a 22b they're sexyyy. As for the rest of the money.. I have no clue. Hookers and blow? Oh and race gas duh how could I forget.

[grey]

I'll take a lancia delta.

http://www.team3s.com/Images/lancia.jpg

As I don't think 50k will stretch to an S4.



http://www.puntosportivo.it/public/lanciadeltaS4588202.jpg

Or a SWB quattro.

http://www.idlonline.de/fotos/autostadt_wolfsburg_2005/audi_sport_quattro_1984_seite_hq.jpg

[MambaSic]

V-8 Fc3s Seven = 5K
Tickets, smog ref, and hospital money = 45K

Done

[Koopa Troopa]

[QUOTE]Funny you say that. I'll be at Watkins Glen this weekend, all weekend. I'll make sure to see how many Rusted 'rollas are out there taking down base Corvettes. I wouldn't expect you to know that, or know I've been to ALMS races, gone through 15 -20 HPDE days, AutoX'd, Been to other class SCCA/Nasa (mainly northeast tho) events...I mean, what do I know? Not claiming to be an expert, but I'm pretty sure I've got a pretty good background in this stuff.
I really couldn't care less as well... If I had the opportunity to go to circuit races I'd be all over it. Until then I guess all the mad tyte yo driving credit I have is smoking cars at the touge yo.

You can put up all those JDM option or whatever videos you want...the truth is, when I am atually at a track (whether HPDE, or crewing for a friend) I know what I see, I know what is fast, and I know what is going on.
Well I'm pretty sure you don't see the same shit I see on the weekends so you can suck mah ballz.

PS: It's also funny to watch Sentras beat up on swapped engine, CRX HC cars. But I didn't read that in Option, so it must not happen.
I've seen what Americans do with Hondas in the States.. I'm not surprised whatsoever however I've also seen what Primeras do and they're awesome cars. B13 Sentras are ill.

[sub9lulu]

V-8 Fc3s Seven = 5K
Tickets, smog ref, and hospital money = 45K

Done

nah, it'll cost u 2k max to past the smog if u wanna get it done right.
u dont even have to tip the ref.

tickets and hospital money is another story.

[!Zar!]

V-8 Fc3s Seven = 5K
Tickets, smog ref, and hospital money = 45K

Done

Uhh. Maybe for you.

[OttoCobra]

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g11/cc4usmc3/shifter_kart.jpg

Then I'd blow the rest on hookers.

AWESOME !!!:bowrofl:

Seriously though .... Acura NSX>*

[Blacksilvy]

drop the cash to rent a bulldozer and make the touge a straight line then just run a full blown drag car :D

actually id just get an FD and put the rest to mods and see what happens :D

[¹²³Klan™]

theres nothing like a ae86 with 20v on itb's

you mean a f22 rolla?

20v is slow.

[joeyz31]

E30 M3! keeping the s14 in it

[lolatclint]

s13 sohc :)

[Gordo714]

http://images.truckinweb.com/brandpages/chevy/0708tr_02_z+2005_chevy_silverado_2500+right_side_a ngle.jpg


turbo diesel silverado with a sick lift and go straight down the hill forget the turns

[sub9lulu]

turbo diesel silverado with a sick lift and ROLL straight down the hill forget the turns

fixed !!!!

[Taniguchi_Is_#1]

brapbrapbrap fd. still.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_yzb91PHHy60/SWOSB0xi8sI/AAAAAAAAGV8/MYbSdjF0Izs/s1600/RE-Xtreme_09_TCPMagic_Aero1.jpg

[Jonas427]

How about a Factory Five GTM

http://www.zed.ls2.com/hdr/factoryfive_s.jpg
http://austindynastymotorsports.com/P1020701.jpg

[Sonic Motor]

I think it matters whos driving the car too.

If you suck at driving, lanevo + good brakes, power power power, and tires!

If you are somewhat decent at driving, the elise is sufficient.

Those karts, useless. Not road legal. Those belong on the track where the road is perfectly smooth. Hahah

[silvia13t14]

an FD built by RE Amemiya..... probably way over 50k tho -_-

http://www.livesockets.com/wallpaper/jgtc0004.jpg
I fully agree wit u man tht wud be the best touge machine:bigok:

[napaKAliboog]

If your're talking about strickly touge...the old twin motor mini or twin g13s in a suzuki swift...(and no noobs, it'll still be rear wheel...unless u like understeer) it feels so fucking sexy! especially when you have gobs of torque and stiff but not to stiff just enough for shape shifting crowns and room for pedal smashing error!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=X2Tyi3XFt5g

[unfuxwitable]

http://www.bucketbrigademonster.com/images/tiredupgm01.JPG

[rb20hatch]

89 bmw 325i 2 door for 1k and then get a s52 fully built forged pistons bore it .020 and 1000cc injectors stand alone management and slap a nice gt35r with 44mm tial waste gate strip everything out of the car including wires that arent needed and get the weight down to about 2,200 lbs and full moton coilover suspension wich the setup i want is 13,000k do a five lug conversion and throw on some 18x8 front and 18x9 rear HRE wheels 8,000k and still have a lil money left to go hit up the bar and get drunk

[ThatGuy]

What kind of coilovers cost $13Million, or wheels for $8Million?

You're a bit over budget with only $50,000 to spend.

[usdm180sx]

It's called RESEARCH, preference and FAIL for not searching

[unlegendary]

if it was me i would either get

lotus exige
rx7 fc or fd
mr2 with v6 camry motor lol
bmw m3

but i don't touge and i frown upon abusing cars on unauthorized roads..
so what would i truly do with the 50k?
lots of rims, change them everyday like i change my shoes. oh yeah and an education

[icemhan_21]

50k is probably enough to rent one of these for a week!.. koenigsegg ccxr

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Koenigsegg_CCXR_Edition_%282_von_2%29.jpg/800px-Koenigsegg_CCXR_Edition_%282_von_2%29.jpg

[Koopa Troopa]

50k is probably enough to rent one of these for a week!.. koenigsegg ccxr

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Koenigsegg_CCXR_Edition_%282_von_2%29.jpg/800px-Koenigsegg_CCXR_Edition_%282_von_2%29.jpg

That car wouldn't get into it's powerband.

[ilikebooze]

panda 86 with tofu stickers.

seriously though ...
s2k
-perfected suspension
-acid dipped, seam welded, and foam injected chassis
-racing bucket and harness
-fully gutted, carbon body work, super light wheels, light driveshaft, light ass flywheel, light battery, fuel cell
-better ignition, intake, exhaust, port & polish, titanium valve springs and retainers, sodium whatever valves, light pulleys and cam gears, high lift cam shafts, balanced crankshaft and rods, and individual throttle bodies, high flow fuel pump, hi flow fuel rails, bigger injectors, more efficient headers, larger oil pan, dry sump oil system, huge radiator, larger oil coolers

That would be beaaast

[325irollin]

E36 M3 sedan modded to the bone