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Matt240SE
01-17-2003, 10:59 AM
Man here in Knoxville we got hit with only 2 and a half inches of snow, and it became hell. I slid all over the damn road on my way home from school yesterday with my "ALL Season" Bridgestones.

And today I went to my girlfriend's house to drop something off and i pulled to close to the curb and got stuck for about 15 mintes rocking it back and forth. Until i just slammed it in reverse and finally got to a patch of unpacked snow/pavement.

Almost makes me wanna trade my car in for the new Evo VIII coming out soon. Although I couldnt part with my baby.

OH well we only get snow twice a year, anybody else have snow horror stories???

blaqsilvia
01-17-2003, 11:07 AM
drifting in snow is fun... as long you don't lose control! ;) -- i hate snow- but once i go down my street and start driftin- i'm late to get to where i was goin-- lol-- so its a love hate thing-- no serious accidents thank god :)

Yoshi
01-17-2003, 11:25 AM
winter is ALL about the studded tires. "All Season" tires, should really read, "all season, in southern california", cuz all season tires are completely worthless in the snow unless you got a subie ;)

I have studded tires all around, and I have fun in the snow... however the 1 day I was caught off guard last winter... ick... falken ziex 17" 40's... WORTHLESS in snow. hahaha. Normally it takes me 5 mins to get to work, that day it took me 45mins doing the ole manual limited slip diff with the ebrake to get up a hill cuz the truck in front of me spun out and made me come to a complete stop (ice driving is all about momentum).

Get some studs man, night and day difference :)

240 2NR
01-17-2003, 11:38 AM
Studded tires are illegal in many states. If so, look into the new studless snow tires like nokian hakepilettas (sp?), michelin actic alpins, bridgestone blizzaks and the like.

The problem with all season tires, is which seasons they weight more heavily. If it's performance oriented you can pretty much assume (though exceptions may exist) they'll suck in the snow since they are biased toward summer and dry performance.

dave240sx
01-17-2003, 11:40 AM
Are studded tires legel in Tennessee? I drove down my driveway and got stuck so I backed into my neighbors driveway to turn around and go the otherway (downhill) and I got stuck in my neighbors driveway. I was thinking about getting some chains but it seems like to much of a hassel. How do you put chains on? Do you have to take the wheels off or do you just back up onto them and then wrap them around? Seems like I've seen this before but i'm not sure.

-Dave-

We got 4-5 inches here in south nashville.

boosteds14
01-17-2003, 11:49 AM
we got a dusting up here in lower CT.

240GURL
01-17-2003, 02:24 PM
We've got snow three times now in St. Louis, and I have had NO problems. Over Christmas I went down to Cape and Got stuck in an ice storm--my car did amazing, I didn't even lose the rear once! I have BFG G-Force TA KDWS (I got the G-force meter for free with them) on my car, and I am very pleased with their performance.

thelinja
01-17-2003, 03:22 PM
We've had a considerable amount of snow this winter(6-8in) and my car has been awesome in the snow. The only times I've lost traction have been deliberate (drifting, donuts, etc.) I didn't even have trouble in the icy neighborhoods. My tires are all season Yoko V4's....Let's see what happens when I pop my new Azenis on.:rolleyes:

AKADriver
01-17-2003, 03:29 PM
I've never had a major problem with all-seasons in the snow, but I've never driven my 240SX in the snow either (it's on summer tires).

Aside from standing start, though, my FWD cars haven't had any real advantage in theory, so, I dunno. Power understeer sucks... if it's slippery enough, you're going off the outside. Thankfully I've always been able to recover by just lifting and unwinding the wheel a bit.

I grew up in the often unplowed boonies of Upstate NY and learned to drive there. Maybe I'm just not expecting so much... if the car's not sliding around a little bit then it just isn't winter. :D Having the rear kick out is NBD... countersteer and follow through. The only really scary situation is fully locking up the brakes.

DSC
01-17-2003, 04:14 PM
Snow does suck, but what sucks worse is salt.

It's about 30degrees out side and I just washed my car...It was covered with salt. I had to drive it around my neighborhood to dry it off since neighborhood roads don't get salted.

I really can't think of a single thing I like about winter :mad: bla

Kareem
01-17-2003, 04:19 PM
While snow does suck, there's nothing better then knowing that you can slide around without doing that much damage to your tires and other stuff.

Natty
01-17-2003, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by dave240sx
Are studded tires legel in Tennessee? I drove down my driveway and got stuck so I backed into my neighbors driveway to turn around and go the otherway (downhill) and I got stuck in my neighbors driveway. I was thinking about getting some chains but it seems like to much of a hassel. How do you put chains on? Do you have to take the wheels off or do you just back up onto them and then wrap them around? Seems like I've seen this before but i'm not sure.

-Dave-

We got 4-5 inches here in south nashville.
We got 5 up here on the plateau, between Nashville and Knoxville.
That sucked hard. I had to drive in 2 miles of snow to the mechanic because all my brake fluid leaked out. All I had was the parking brake.
I was so scared the whole time, but I got there okay. I even had some fun when I was alone, trying to stop ont he ice with only my rear brakes :p
Stay safe out there.
Jeff

SaintlyCharBoy
01-17-2003, 11:00 PM
well, this being my first winter with a RWD car, and having seen almost 4 feet of snow since november, i don't think that the 240 is too bad in the snow...

sure, you can'r rip along all the roads as if they they were dry, and you have to innitiate your stop earlier - but i haven't needed studs or chains anywhere

iirc studs actually help more with hard packed snow and ice than fresh stuff

my dunlop graspics are great - no studs, but loads of grip (almost no dry traction tho)

ah well... my .02

96SEChick
01-18-2003, 06:57 AM
I've only had to drive my car in the snow twice since I've gotten my car (April 2001). Since I work for Enterprise Car Rental, I just park my car in the garage and call the nearest office to pick me up and I'll drive a Neon or something until the snow clears. I get the insurance and it saves me $$$$ if anything were to happen ($500 deductible and clean record)

In OK, our police department has created this stupid thing called "Operation Slick Streets"--when the roads are icy, snowy, or wet, they don't write a ticket or determine any liability unless there's an injury involved. So, it's worth it to me to leave my car at home and rent a car.

240 2NR
01-19-2003, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by 96SEChick


In OK, our police department has created this stupid thing called "Operation Slick Streets"--when the roads are icy, snowy, or wet, they don't write a ticket or determine any liability unless there's an injury involved. So, it's worth it to me to leave my car at home and rent a car.

4 years ago, uiuc240 and I were driving home from chicago till some numbnuts in a sentra lost control of his car on a straight road and hit us backwards after crossing all four lanes. Totaled Eric's car (integra) and he drove away. The ticket went down as no fault due to weather conditions, as opposed to someone who was unable to handle the weather conditions he was driving in. :rolleyes:

thelinja
01-19-2003, 02:04 PM
I have an interesting snow story. Last night, myself and three friends were coming back from NAIAS and we were about 30 miles south of toledo on I-75 heading towards Dayton to pick up I-70. We were in a '93 Astro van with RWD, and 230K miles. It was snowing pretty hard and the wind was fairly strong. We were in the left lane with two cars in front of us about 40yds ahead. All of a sudden the car in front turns sideways out of nowhere. The other guy in a new grand prix locks his brakes up and steers hard right, not realizing he's no sliding right towards the ditch. He countersteers and slams into the ditch backwards. My friend Nick who's driving quickly realizes the situation and taps the brakes lightly and turns right to avoid the first guy who is still parallel to the concrete median. We slid at about a 60 degree angle with respect to the median. The front half of the van was in the right hand lane and the other half was in the break-down lane. Nick some how managed to straighten the van out and get it back into the right lane. We missed the sideways car by about a foot. I looked back and I don't think there was really any damage to the other cars. The one was still in the road, and the grand prix was just backwards in someone's backyard along the freeway. Nick is a pretty good autocrosser and he really knows how to drive. He'll take his FC Turbo II out in the snow and rain just so he can slide around. This just goes to show that a lot of people don't know what to do in a bad situation. Most people would've ended up in the ditch like the grand prix. I'm sure glad we didn't.