I want 9.5s and 265s on the front of my S13... Whatever it takes...

[Nikeboy355]

I like non staggered wheel setups and was thinking of going with

18x9.5 +15 all around
265-35-18 all around

My last setup was 17x9 +20 with 245-40-17s all around...
I'm going to tub the inside front fenders (in the engine bay... in front of the shock towers) and run wider front fenders but will they still have problems fitting?...

How can I make this happen?...

[NemeGuero]

Oh dear god. 265 on a 9.5? Shoot yourself.

[zaquanh]

lol you should use the search look at other tire threads since u need more answers on this then sell your car and never try and build one again lol

[racepar1]

Oh dear god. 265 on a 9.5? Shoot yourself.

Ya let's all stretch out tires and be "cool". :keke: You do know that the typical manufacturer reccomended tire width for a 9.5" wheel is 265-275 right?

To the OP: This is an easily searchable topic. Check out the "maximum rubber and wheel fitment thread". You should find what you are looking for there. It'll be tough with 18's, but I'm sure it will fit with some work.

[NemeGuero]

Ya let's all stretch out tires and be "cool". :keke: You do know that the typical manufacturer reccomended tire width for a 9.5" wheel is 265-275 right?

To the OP: This is an easily searchable topic. Check out the "maximum rubber and wheel fitment thread". You should find what you are looking for there. It'll be tough with 18's, but I'm sure it will fit with some work.

yah, HEELLAAA COOOLLL

Donuts look sick on cars..

wait.. I'm lying.

who cares what manufacturers recommend? They're dumb. They don't care about us! GEORGE BUSH HATES BLACK PEOPLE!

[s13dan]

SEARCH!



9.5=265 for sure

[dirtdiggler666]

stretching tires is still cool :ugh: i guess im not cool

[NemeGuero]

stretching tires is still cool :ugh: i guess im not cool

we knew that already.

[dirtdiggler666]

ok then why is it not a good idea?

[NemeGuero]

cuz its uuugggllllyyyyy

[articdragon192]

Why not just run a thick 255? I know RE-01Rs run on the thicker side. 9.5s on a S13, especially with 18s is gonna be pretty hard to do.

[dirtdiggler666]

well my guess hes not going to use his car for drifting so hes not really into looks just a guess tho

[articdragon192]

I know he's a road racer. Reason to why I recommended a thick 255.

[NemeGuero]

Who wouldn't want their racecar to look nice? No matter what motorsport..

240s aren't the fastest or bestest at anything.. if he is soooper serious he should have a better platform.

[articdragon192]

Let him run what he wants. No one's really helping him with anything so far IMO.

[dirtdiggler666]

ya because all rece car people judge a car by their tires:keke:

[PoorMans180SX]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Jason/orlandokeywest034.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/orlandokeywest038.jpg

275/35 on a 18x9.5+12 with normal wide fenders in the front (not my car).

Found it in the Maximum rubber and wheel fitment thread.

[NemeGuero]

BARF, I know I'm not helpful.
I don't really care.

[racepar1]

yah, HEELLAAA COOOLLL

Donuts look sick on cars..

wait.. I'm lying.

who cares what manufacturers recommend? They're dumb. They don't care about us! GEORGE BUSH HATES BLACK PEOPLE!

Ya, you know the millions of dollars that tire manufacturers spend on R&D wouldn't possibly lead them to the correct tire size for a particular wheel width. PSSSSSSHHHHHHHTTTTTTTT!

Who wouldn't want their racecar to look nice? No matter what motorsport..

240s aren't the fastest or bestest at anything.. if he is soooper serious he should have a better platform.

This attitude is why 240 owners are, in general, douches. "I want my car to look sick, who cares if it is slower because there are better cars out there for going fast". So what if there are faster cars out there? Some of us want to maximize the potential of the s-chasis because they are what we love. I see nothing wrong with shooting to have the fastest n/a ka powered 240 in the country. Ginormous tires are fuckin sexy as hell IMO, not to mention that they work better for everything except drifting and car shows.

[racepar1]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/Jason/orlandokeywest034.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v344/gsracer/orlandokeywest038.jpg

275/35 on a 18x9.5+12 with normal wide fenders in the front (not my car).

Found it in the Maximum rubber and wheel fitment thread.

Now THAT is fucking sexy as fuck! Stretched tires FTL!!!!!

[dirtdiggler666]

this is when i hate that this site is about 95% drifto dude not everyone only drifts:-/

[ROIDMONKEY]

Oh dear god. 265 on a 9.5? Shoot yourself.

Wtf u mean? Ofcourse he can. It's perfectly fine. NOW if u a stretchy that's another story. Just don't go that crazy low

[Def]

That car is a freakin' 4x4.

My opinion after going with wide tires on an S-chassis is you are probably doing something wrong to even be able to heat up tires that wide... especially with only NA KA power.

I'm also of the opinion that 18's just flat out don't work on our cars due to the large overall diameter... as evidenced by that S13. Sure, you might have 10-20mm wider tires, but your CG is likely 10-20mm higher than it would be with reasonably sized 17" tires.

My take on it, if you want wide tires go 17x9.5 or 17x10 and 255/40-17's all around. Easily available, cheaper than 18" tires, and 0.3" smaller in overall diameter. That's like a free reduction in CG height and only 10mm narrower.


Remember, tire width does NOT always equal more lateral or especially longitudinal traction.

[NemeGuero]

LMAO.

wow, I never seen so many bunched panties..

[ZX88]

ug x2 to much meat.

[NemeGuero]

I guess these boys like the meat...

[uthemofo]

balloon tires on nice wheels is like a hot ass girl with fucked up teeth and a huge witch nose.

[murda-c]

I thought cars got bigger tires to go faster.

[sillyvia13]

WOW op... I am so sorry for you...
When you look for answers you get a SHIT STORM~
Good luck with you car...

I got some 17 x 10's from dirtdiggler actually and I got another set local... i run them all around with 245's and the dont hit... but like i said 245's...
I have s14 lca in front and modded the dogg shit outta my in frame rail... for more angle from modded tie rods, but I think your fine... theres a shit ton of room.. if not cut and hack...lol...

gl any way broski!
Glad to see so many cars guys helping each other out...
dang.
PEACE!

[Dousan_PG]

id go meaty 255/275 setup on a 9.5/10.5 set up
that woudl be pretty sweet
and easy to get good tires

RE01Rs and neovas i believe are in that size as well as lots of other brands

grip cars are cool
you can still look super cool

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/Events/HKS%20Hiper%20Challenge/IMG_1395.jpg


probably need some good wide fdners
tubbing? mm i dont think so, just depends on ride height.


koguchi runs the 255/275 on the d1gp car.
fenders are not tubbed.

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c252/dousan/enginroom1.jpg

[racepar1]

I thought cars got bigger tires to go faster.

Theoretically, yes because there is more abvailable grip. Realistically, not always because there is also more tire scrub. Remember more rubber = more tire scrub. Eventually you reach the point where the tire scrub will be too much for the amount of power you have. That is only really a problem IMO if you have a stock ka and that is the exact reason that I run 255's when in theory I could go wider. Around turn 2 at big willow I am flat on the gas and holding my speed at about 80mph. With more rubber there is a good chance that I would start scrubbing speed off. If you have a built KA or a SR with some bolt-ons you don't really have to worry about that as you have enough power to push the bigger tires.

[Nikeboy355]

17x9.5 +15
255-40-17

All around is what I'm going to run...
At least while the car is NA...

Will the front wheel hit the coilover?... I remember my 17x9 +20 really close to my KTS coilovers...

[240sxScores]

Ive got nearly the same setup in wheels as you do. Im running 17x9.5 +15 with 255 615's in back. I have to run about -3 degrees camber with a very flat rolled inner lip and a slight pull.

I have 17x9 +20 in front with 245 z1 star specs, theres very little room between the shock and wheel. I had to beat the metal above the tire flat and the seam on the firewall flat for clearance and route the harness higher away from the tire. And the tire rubs the front fender tub a little i guess while under some decent shock compression. I tested out my 9.5 +15 up front and it definitely looked like some decent work was in hand to make that fit.

Stock ka power, had a blast with this setup at VIR full.

[McCoy]

Nikeboy, what's wrong with your 17x9's? You can run 255/40/17's on 9" wheels no problem, heck I'm running 275 RA-1's on my 17x9's for my track setup.

For NA, I ran about 5 track events last year with my S13 NA. With 225/45/17 RE-01R's shaved, the car held up fine to 30 minute session and had pretty good corner/exit speeds. If I would have stayed NA, I probably would have gone to a 235 width tire in a RA-1/R888/NT-01.

I really don't see you needing a 255+ width tire on a wide wheel for an NA setup... how much added weight are you throwing on here by doing this? I'd think you'd want to keep the tire/wheel weight down as much as possible.

[Nikeboy355]

I hear you...

I don't have the old wheel/tires anymore and I'm planning for the future also... I'm sure the car will be +300WHP after 6-12 track events anyways...

Also money wise the two most easy to get tires over here are 255-40-17s and 265-35-18s... My friends stock them and all run on them...

The car will also have the aero and big brakes to back it up... Think of the NA KA motor as the "chassis break in" motor...

[aa87]

+15 will be close. I can barely slide a credit card between my wheel and coilover

[s13drob]

this thread has turned into an opinion battle. its just 2 different styles to each their own. that being said..... stretched FTL. whens that trend gonna die? some people would rather TRY and look good losing a race

[NemeGuero]

get over it already..

[FRpilot]

lol you should use the search look at other tire threads since u need more answers on this, then sell your car and never try and build one again lol

:duh:

are you serious?

have you seen the OP's old car? It was a really clean s13 fastback, which he PAINTED HIMSELF and dropped in a ka24de which he REBUILT HIMSELF. he took it to Buttonwillow and surprised a few Porsches with it around the track, all with only rebuilt KA, KTS coilovers, and solid rear subframe bushings, stock links everywhere else.

what have you built/raced that makes you talk so lowly of someone?

this is fucking palmface

[s13drob]

double post

[s13drob]

get over it already..

yea u got ripped into enough. wheres all the stretchies when you need em rite? lol

[tacotacotaco]

hey nitin its john i had the black fastback with the bronze cr kais at buttonwillow. I have a set of 17x9.5+15 uras ns-01 i test a 255 40 17 to the front and it did work. I had rolled stock fenders about -3 degress camber. I have the rims if you wanna test fit.

[NemeGuero]

yea u got ripped into enough. wheres all the stretchies when you need em rite? lol

haha ripped into?

all I got was a bunch of people crying.

You swear I give a shit what people on Zilvia think. hahahaha :snoop:

[allntrlundrgrnd]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2139/2242364181_6ac31c0589.jpg?v=0

[SoSideways]

â—ŽFederal Tire - 595RS - Dimension Data â—Ž (http://www.federaltire.com/en/images/datasheet/size_spec/spec595RS.html)

Says the 235/40/17 on a 9.5" is still within the recommended rim width for it.

Just because it's a "235 on a 9.5" doesn't mean it's stretched and "out of spec" guys.

[PoorMans180SX]

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/Events/HKS%20Hiper%20Challenge/IMG_1395.jpg

Did no one see this?

Perfection!

That is the HOTTEST S13 I have ever laid eyes upon, and what is it? A time attack car. The tires aren't stretched. But they fit. And I guarantee it's fast.

We all know drifting is about looking good and having fun, but time attack is about function and all-out speed, and who says function and form can't go together? That car is a perfect example.

[s13drob]

haha ripped into?

all I got was a bunch of people crying.

You swear I give a shit what people on Zilvia think. hahahaha :snoop:

see it how u want to. :kiss: haha

the OP got his answers/opinions. lock this hoekake down

[steve shadows]

Yeah thats a great looking time attack s13. Hopefully everything is functional, and it's tinted too haha

[Rayne]

Dousan, Koguchi also runs wide front and rear over fenders. 50mm in the front and 70mm in the rear if I recall correctly.

[ROIDMONKEY]

haha ripped into?

all I got was a bunch of people crying.

You swear I give a shit what people on Zilvia think. hahahaha :snoop:
u totally do. otherwise u wouldn't been checking this thread and reposting and reposting and reposting. go away
pretending like u don't care!! first thing u do is check this thread, or maybe u subscribed!!!
but u don't care!!!! guys like u feed on this .

[SoSideways]

Dousan, Koguchi also runs wide front and rear over fenders. 50mm in the front and 70mm in the rear if I recall correctly.

Which is what's on that white time attack 180sx there a few posts up.

[OptionZero]

need more info about that s13

[Rayne]

Which is what's on that white time attack 180sx there a few posts up.

Really, that is good to know.

[articdragon192]

Yup, Koguchi fenders and GT1 aero from what I'm told.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Depending on how low you're gonna be, 265/35 18s on a 18x9.5 +12 upfront, go ahead and buy some wider fenders. You can try pull the fuck out of the fenders but it wont be pretty. Shit will start creasing once it gets to a certain point. I've run 17x10 +12 on my old S14, and i was running 18x9.5 +12 on my current S14. Just not running that wide of a tire just cuz I need wider fenders. Was running 235/40 18s all around RT-615s. Depending on how wide of fenders I can get (prefer to get 30mm) then I will try to run 255/35 18s on either RTs again or Federals RS-Rs.

[OptionZero]

Yup, Koguchi fenders and GT1 aero from what I'm told.

best combo ever

but who's running that car? nismo japan? nismo usa? second-party privateer? what continent, what races, and more fuckin pictures

[SoSideways]

Koguchi wide fenders + GT-1 aero + TE37s in man sizes in black = best combo ever.

There I fixed it for ya :bigok:


but who's running that car? nismo japan? nismo usa? second-party privateer? what continent, what races, and more fuckin pictures

It was just a pic taken from the blog entry on Speedhunter about a time attack event at Tsukuba in Japan.

[Nikeboy355]

Another example of an accomplished Time Attack car... The Full Race Time Attack S14...

http://i337.photobucket.com/albums/n385/Nikeboy355/gtlive3.jpg

Stock SR20DET(stock long block including cams and intake manifold)
550cc injectors
Full Race Stage 1 turbo kit

and the suspension was only coilovers, Cusco LSD, and it's even running all stock arms...

Wheel/tire setup was
17x9 MB Motorings with 275s all around... I'm not sure if those are slicks or R compounds tires...

Simple setup and this car won it's class at Time Attack...

[Grenade180sx]

I guess these boys like the meat...



this is coming front a guy who had to post up "why is my car overheating"?. maybe you should get back to that search bar before you run your mouth with no relevance to a post.

[McCoy]

Wheel/tire setup was
17x9 MB Motorings with 275s all around... I'm not sure if those are slicks or R compounds tires...
V710 Victoracers to be exact. As I mentioned earlier, you can run 275's on 9" wheels... seems to be working fine for me.

Simple setup and this car won it's class at Time Attack...
Usually it's the driver, but still shows how capable an S13/S14 can be with minimal work and a good driver.

[brokeAs240sx]

OP: Did you look @ the Maximum Tire Thread? Plenty of examples (at least mine).

The only problem I can foresee right now is the offset, if you clear inside there, you are fine.

Top of the wheel well & firewall side, you are approximately the same as the 255/40 you ran.

I'm running 265/35R18 on 18x9 +8 (one of my favorite pic to whore out):

http://bewbews.com/pictures/5/1377.jpg

If you have the +50 wide fenders in front, you may want to consider running 285/30R18 around - it will give you better overall wheel diameter/clearance - of course, you'd also want to consider a lower offset if you are having rubbing problems.

As for "why do you need 265's" someone was mentioning. Even on my stock automatic KA, I maintain higher entry & exit speeds in corners @ autox vs the 235's I've run in the past.

I have rubbing issues because of the height, alignment, and offsets I choose to run, but for the most part, it's manageable.

[McRussellPants]

Put 255+ on the back of a drift car.

all of your shit is slow trying to drift on 225s.

[ranger240]

LMAO.

wow, I never seen so many bunched panties..

this is why getting the rep system gone is great for this forum.. all the vets that had 123213123 rep powers could say whatever b.s. they wanted and everyone else would generally agree, definately not question. clowns like this guy, !zar! et. al who usually say good things are getting called out now. this forums gonna get way better.. no more dumb flaming and rep-power dick licking anymore

[steve shadows]

Wheel/tire setup was
17x9 MB Motorings with 275s all around... I'm not sure if those are slicks or R compounds tires...

Simple setup and this car won it's class at Time Attack...

Honestly Nitin, It's not the horses mouth for road racing experience and seat time, but from a lot of general car knowledge and tech reading, Going with the most apporpriate compound and size to compliment the suspension geometry, stiffness, shock travel and spring rates is what I would focus on, more than going for x wheel with y size tire.

My car actually handled better at the track/and canyon with 215 40 17 tire on the same wheel, than a 235 40 17 on a 17x8.

In fact I hate my current setup and will be going with 17x9 with 255 FR and 275 R next. Offset become everything at that point for proper handling if everything else is put together properly, at least that's what I have personally noticed.

[Def]

275/40-17's suck ass and I'm sticking by that. The sidewalls are ginormous, and you can FEEL the 1-1.5" of lateral deflection upon corner entry, and it feels horrible.

I never could heat them up with about 200 rwhp either. They actually grained(rubber shearing and "rolling" across the tire) due to working the tire so much while it was cold(Kumho MXs, which are pretty "tough" as far as street tires go).

Maybe with lots of aero(the kind that works) stuff bigger than a 255 starts to make sense, but a stock bodied 240SX can't work 'em hard enough IMO.

[steve shadows]

exactly def.

I think 255 all the way around with stock TRIM and a great COMPOUND is a better bet to start at.

[McCoy]

275/40-17's suck ass and I'm sticking by that. The sidewalls are ginormous, and you can FEEL the 1-1.5" of lateral deflection upon corner entry, and it feels horrible.
The MX's have soft sidewalls and have a what 220 treadwear rating... Try an RA-1 or R-compound tire with alot stiffer sidewalls and 100 or under treadwear rating I'm sure that you might change your thought on this.

I still think for NA, a 235-245 is more than enough, but that's just my opinion...

[Def]

Maybe.. It's still a lot of tire for the average weight/power a tracked S13/S14.

[racepar1]

My 255's work perfect for me, I don't really want to go any wider. Although I am picking up your 275/40/17 v710's so we'll see if I can find a matching pair and, if so, how I like them.

[JRas]

this is the thread you want to visit

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/166563-maximum-rubber-wheel-fitment-thread.html

[Grenade180sx]

Put 255+ on the back of a drift car.

all of your shit is slow trying to drift on 225s.

seriously.. im tired of seeing 300+hp cars on 215's then complaining i did one lap and my tires are dead.